Why didn't you guys tell me macOS is so well thought through?

I don't know but I agree, it's a beauty to use. Every time I boot up my Mac I feel the pleasure of being cummed inside. I will get one for my bf on his birthday

>>58396186
Poverty. Most people bitching about macOS never used it for longer periods of time.

>>58396186
Macs are actually decent provided that they're being used properly (not as facebook machines or status symbols)

The older models last forever and OSX is comfy as shit. The hardware is super over priced though.

I know a kid who bought a MacBookPro and installed W10 on it as an exclusive OS. Lil' fucker's a CS major too.

I hope his father raped him as a child.

IP check

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>minimalist shit just to be different

>>58396417
>The hardware is super over priced though.

No, it isn't. I don't know why /g/, of all places, still has people that believe this.

When you go deeper than the simplest, high-level specs, you quickly find out that it's either cost-competitive or outright has no rival.

For example, you can't just say "hurr muh HP has the same SSD storage for less!" when you shitty HP uses SATA SSD and the Mac uses quad-channel PCIe SSD. Or "muh DPI" when the Mac has 16:10 with greater bit-depth, better quality back lighting, and far greater brightness.

>>58396186
we did, it's just drowned out by the /v/ posters who have never used macOS

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>>58396186

no volume mixer is pretty stupid
macOS is nice though

>>58396466
>Or "muh DPI" when the Mac has 16:10 with greater
iMac 5k has a 16:9 display.

>2017
>still can't easily put macOS on any laptop desktop
Seriously such bullshit. Yes I know hackintoshes are a thing but it takes away from the entire simplicity of macOS in the first place. Besides, everyone hates windows and all other distros are serious garbage and will never take off - so it would be a great market opportunity but oh well.

>>58396505
>no volume mixer is pretty stupid
In its place you get AU Lab

>>58397659
>it would be a great market opportunity to not sell the hardware anymore
fucking retard

>>58396186
We tried to tell you, Anon...

>>58397922
>they've already stopped producing multiple lines
>can save even more money by making other people produce all the hardware but make it Apple Authorized
thank god you're not in any positions of power sweetie

>>58398038
A huge part of the reason people buy macs is the experience and high base expectations from the products. You know what you're getting and the options are relatively limited and clear.

It just wouldn't work with others selling the hardware, look how bad the quality of windows laptops varies. It could be a decent product but it can be some barely usable shit and there is no way to tell unless you have the time to inform yourself and read all the reviews, which people with jobs rarely do unless they job are in the tech industry.

>can save even more money
All of their shit makes profit. Obviously it's not iPhone level but still pretty nice.

>>58398097
[thinkingfaceemoji]
but hardware doesn't make money anymore
get over it kid

>>58396466
It's a fucking novelty item for people who got money to spend

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>shilling this hard

>>58398125
>It's a fucking novelty item for people who got money to burn
ftfy

There's a reason most mac users are children or adults that act like children.

>>58398107
Selling hardware means that Apple controls the entire experience and they don't have to test a bunch of shit for compatibility and push out a bunch of hardware specific patches for various people's setups. At this point in time it still makes sense for them to sell hardware.

>>58396186

> broken Samba implementation
> shits random .files everywhere
> can't drive external monitor unplugged with lid closed
> still no native aero snap

And so on.

>>58398141
literally hold down option

too stupid to learn one shortcut?

>>58398222
lolno, there is none. Believe me I tried before I eventually got an XPS 15. Though that was only 1 reason why I sold my 2015 macbook pro.

>>58398250
your dumb

>>58398250
>Though that was only 1 reason why I sold my 2015 macbook pro.
no one in the history of /g/ would sell a 2015 MacBook Pro for a Dell

>>58398265
>>58398273
Family member of mine had an xps 15 and let me use it for a week after my 2015 macbook "pro"'s battery exploded and I took it to an apple center to get that shit fixed.

Just the sheer usability the XPS 15 gave me the first few hours made me deeply regret ever buying my stupid macbook pro.

The OS looks like a work of art.

>>58398310
>windows babby duck syndrome
lol

>>58398314
works like dogshit though

>>58398319
I could actually get serious work done for the first time in my life, if being a more productive member of society makes me a windows babby duck then so be it.

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To everyone who seriously thinks homOS X is not hot steaming pile of shit, why has it gone from 10 to 5% market share so quickly?

>>58398379
>>58398379
your dumb

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>>58398401
XD

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>>58398408

>>58396318
I used it for a year (work related) and it's a sheer mess if you actually want to use it for anything but consuming. It's buggy, unstable and apple software is often just broken.

>>58397659
Walled gardens and restrictive environments are Apples trademarks
It was designed from the very macintosh by Jobs himself
He even wanted to make sure the fucking thing was well solded so hobbyists couldn't tinker with it

Only good thing I can think about macs are the battery life and really good displays resolutions
As for the OS only thing in their favor is being UNIX, though you can get that easily with Linux or *BSDs

>>58398459
>It's buggy, unstable and apple software is often just broken.

It doesn't help that Tim Cock forgot about the desktop. Apple makes too much money selling iPhones and iPads to be bothered with Macs anymore.

>>58398459
>It's buggy, unstable and apple software is often just broken.

it's based on a hacked FreeBSD version what did you expect

>>58398352
>I could actually get serious work done for the first time in my life
Whatever you say

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>>58396186
>t. mactoddler

>>58398768
see >>58398222

>>58398107
>but hardware doesn't make money anymore
It does for Apple doe. Ever seen their prices?

Floating windows are inherently flawed, unified toolbars are a joke, and the dock is a hack.

Also the shortcuts are a nightmare.

>>58398806
>muh tiling meme

>>58398783
see >>58398265

>>58398623
>it's based on a hacked FreeBSD version what did you expect

It actually isn't, the kernel filesystem and entire UI has nothing to do with BSD.

If you use grep or cat in a terminal thats the BSD part.

>>58396466
There is literally no difference between SATA and PCIE SSDs

oh its nothing. linux and even windows have all this.

macos sucks if you use it for long time periods because you realise how limited it is. i dont mind the visuals but they really cluttered the look recently

>>58398352
>I couldnt be productive until I bougtht a dell XPS

what.

>>58398891
obvious shill, ignore him

>>58398891
He's probably referring to the excrutiatingly painful experience of not being able to run very useful win32 software on his mac. Mac looks nice but usability is fucking shit especially since devs don't port most useful win32 over to macs.

>>58398904
No that would be you.
see >>58398379

>>58396262

Rude.

>>58398949
>being homophobic in 2017
>>>/pol/

>>58398891
Streaming while you play vidya is serious business these days. Mac are definitely sup optimal for that.

Or maybe he's just a shill.

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>>58396466
This post is why anyone even slightly technology literate regards mactoddlers as clueless morons.

>>58398983
>great hardware is useless when the software is outdated
WHO KNEW. Next you're going to say that everything over four cores is a meme too!

>>58398968
see >>58398929

btw I hate windows 10 and haven't played vydias in over 5 years.

>>58398832
except for the speed, you mean?

>>58399021
Which is never saturated. If speed is what you autistically want then 128-256GB of ECC RAM is what you need.

>>58398983
except the MacBook Pro's SSD is 2x as fast as the fastest one pictured

>>58399058
>speed is never saturated, so screw better technology, let's go back to HDDs

>>58399007
>t. mactoddler

>>58396417
>>>58396186 (OP)
>I know a kid who bought a MacBookPro and installed W10 on it as an exclusive OS. Lil' fucker's a CS major too.

I have a macmini with dual boot and I only use the Windows 10 disk. I like windows more because it's more practical, it has more software and it looks more serious than a gay OS like macOS. I hate rounded edges on every lil shit in the UI, it's like the UI was made for kids, women and gays.

>>58399058
>Which is never saturated
that's... good?

>>58399081
Not saying that, SSDs do load things faster but after SATA III ones the differance in most if not all programs is like a 5% improvement at best not worth the money at all.

Prove otherwise
>protip: you can't

>>58399078
Literally pointless.

>>58399147
>but after SATA III ones the differance in most if not all programs is like a 5% improvement
Key being "programs" and "most". Also NVMe are more efficient if I recall it right.

>not worth the money at all
For YOU.

>>58399097
Perhaps but if you really needed 1337 speed why settle for a snail-grade 1-2GB/s when ECC RAM can easily give you 60GB/s or faster?

>>58399166
Hey which kind of magic stones and cable lifters do you recommend? Plan to spend at least 1 million dollars for my audio setup. Already have a 9001 TZh/9001-bit 5 gigawatt DAC btw

>>58399183
>comparing stuff that gives actual benefits which aren't noticeable with every program with autist cables
Your hatred for Applel is clouding your judgement, son.

>>58399183
Tip top kek

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>>58399008
>very useful win32 software
like what? Call of Duty 10: Quantum Warfare?

>>58399206
I own a mac you fucking retard. Won't for long though, latest OS X update has this thing glitching and freezing on me like a motherfucker.

>>58399239
>mocking windows users for your lack of knowledge of their productivity tools
>doing this while using a picture of the most pathetic manchild hobby
new low

>>58398815
You are right, it's worse of a hackjob than loonix distros.

>>58399280
t. wintoddler

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>>58398038
>crush brand trust
>forefeit all the markups you get from rolling your own product

>>58396466
Finally, someone that knows what they are talking about.

>>58399308
It's actually impressive how they serve this dogshit to people and still get them to pay thousands for their throttling dual-core 800MHz laptops in which they put them in.

The power of marketting truly is amazing. I wonder how far Linux as a deaktop OS would have gotten if millions were put into marketting...

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>>58399147
>not worth the money at all.

if you're a 5th grader or pajeet, sure

>differance

>Prove otherwise

pic related

>>58399166
>Also NVMe are more efficient if I recall it right.

nvme is a far, far superior spec for flash storage over ahci (sata) so you're definitely right

>>58396186
>>default browser that's actually usable
This is where I know you're memeing

Does macos still delete folders on merge by default?
Seems like such a stupid feature to have on an OS that "just werks"

>>58399391
>doesn't show real world use-case improvements
k

>>58399460
hold option

>>58399470
I know how to do that but I'd sure like to know the rationale for having it not be default when literally every Windows and Linux distro does.

too many poorfags.
doesn't help that apple went full retard with the latest macbook pro.

but i do agree that macOS is great. hardware is fantastic - the keyboard and trackpad and macbook is incomparable

>>58399494
because it's not windows or linux?

>>58399517
Obviously. In this case it's less intuitive than those two.

>>58399494
Think different!™

>>58399540
a higher average level of intelligence is expected of macOS users
seems to be why only windows babby duck users on /g/ have a problem with it

>>58399460
Yup, my sister lost a bunch of school work about a month ago because of this "feature" and she got so upset she came into my room, hugged me while sobbing, and fell asleep in my bed while hugging my pillow. We're not even that close, last time she spent time with me was my birthday a few months ago when she got me a happy birthday card without any money.

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>>58399554
>a higher average level of intelligence is expected of macOS users
LMAO
M
A
O

>>58399584
This, os x feels like os for children.

>>58399571
>Apple brings his family closer
>pajeet still complains

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>>58399462
>>doesn't show real world use-case improvements

pcie x4 offers far, far more bandwidth over sata connectors, that much is obvious

>>58399638
>benchmarks

kys mactoddler

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>>58399638

but maybe comparing recent pcie ssds to older sata ssds isn't fair, how about comparing *the same* model ssds? pcie-nvme vs pcie-ahci

they were the same price on launch, fwiw

(950 pro is the consumer sm951 and is also nvme)

>>58399638
see >>58398983

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>>58399664

of course, with more raw bandwith comes more raw iops (or the other way around)

hence, doing very concurrent/parallel tasks such as compiling, bulk photo editing on large raw files, is significantly improved, video editing is probably a tad quicker over achi too

>>58399617
>implying I like my sister
She's a fucking free-loader that expects people to be there for her when she's not there for them when they need her. She's that person that eats all your fries when you go to the mall but doesn't even help pay the bill at olive garden despite haven't ate 2 meals.

Also I'm from a middle class family in spain, I'm very happy I wasn't born as a stupid white person. Christ, you morons elected a reality tv show star to be in charge of your entire army.

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>>58399689

which translates into some real world tangible performance

>>58399693
Hey, I am from Germany. We're done with the whole "elect a clown as our leader" business.

>>She's a fucking free-loader that expects people to be there for her when she's not there for them when they need her.
Can't blame her if it works. Letting her get away with it enables that kind of shit.

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>>58399716
>raid 0 stripe

Mactoddlers can't even read the charts they save to shill their fruity toddler toys.

>>58399599
t. wintoddler

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>>58399716

but all you technology illiterate fucktards,

>>58399674
>>58399654
>>58399462

who look at graphs like pic related, which are largely sequential file loads not limited so much by disk io but by cpu and memory bandwidth as well, can only look at your current workloads like loading muh-gaymen and decide that pcie/nvme ssds aren't worth it

it's no surprise >>58399674 is all purely loading games and software

I don't even use mac, I hopped in because some fucktard was shitting on nvme ssds when they're by far the only option if you want to do any serious disk io work, but it's nice to know there's fucktards on all side of the fence

>>58399716
>20 GB
How much money does that cost?

>>58399747
>Mactoddlers can't even read

>b-but sata iii is fine anything past that is 5% >>58399147
>b-but where's muh real world use case >>58399462
>b-buh benchmarks are bad >>58399654

get your shit together, you want proof that pcie > sata but benchmarks are bad real world use cases are bad because reasons

>>58399834

judging by the date of 2012 the ram on macs wouldn't have been soldered to the board so not much I'm guessing

>>58398379
Source?

>>58398220
> broken Samba implementation
Huh?
> shits random .files everywhere
Huh?
> can't drive external monitor unplugged with lid closed
Bullshit I do this at work
> still no native aero snap
Yes there is you monkey

What was the last version you used lol

>>58400803
>t. mactoddler

>>58399599
>>58399777
what did kek mean by this

>>58399243
>latest OS X update has this thing glitching and freezing on me like a motherfucker
Same here tqbh. Was thinking it could be down to LibreOffice but if other faggots are having this problem it seems to be Sierra related after all.

>>58399599
Installing a new program actually makes me feel like I'm being treated like a baby.

>open .dmg
>it scans it and mounts it
>Do you want to install this application?
>Okay, now drag the application 5 pixels over into the folder in the same window

It feels like a toddler's building blocks and I'm being made to do some arbitrary shit just for kicks. Why do I have to drag it over? Why can't it just copy itself over after I click "Yes I want to install this program"?

>>58400803
>> shits random .files everywhere
>Huh?

Try plugging a USB stick into a mac, put something on it, and then put it back on anything else to check its contents.

There's ._MACOSX files all over the thing.

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>>58396186
>Why didn't you guys tell me macOS is so well thought through?
Because it isn't.

>>58401007
Top fucking kek, it can't even take a screenshot without fucking it up.

>>58401007
>hackintosh

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>>58401041

>>58401045
>implying OP specified Apple hardware as opposed to claiming the OS is good

>>58401055
The experience tends to vary massively. Hackintosh tends to feel like a pretty Loonix distru.

The fuck do you even dislike about it if you use it frequently enough to justify all the effort to install it, using Skype there on so on.

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I really, really want to buy a Macbook 2016, but, being honest, i could easily go out there and buy a Razer Blade with a nice 1060 and the only thing i would be missing is the beautiful display it has, and well, macOS support, which is not really a big deal, the thing is that i don't really want to be thrown into a group where so called "ricers" just get a terminal and change colors beacuse that's as far as they can go, where the most of all macbook users bait other users with shitty low stuff like poorfag or the fox and the grapes, this sucks.

>>58401066
It's a complete and utter shitshow. I just enjoy trolling normalfags by booting it up on an old ThinkPad I picked up for $200 that'll outperform their actual $1200 Faceberg machine.

>>58401084
why are you buying a macbook if your main concern is ricing

>>58400803
>> broken Samba implementation
>Huh?

You never had to work with SMB storage on OSX have you? It's a fucking nightmare.

>>58401095
I connect to SMB shares at work every day. You're full of shit.

>>58401084
>Macbook 2016
>Razer Blade with a nice 1060
Are completely different, for different purposes and the only similarity is that both are laptops and somewhat close in size.

>>58401085
What does your therapist say about that?

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>>58401103
I take a shit at work every day. You're full of SMB.

__ pls go

>>58398141
this isn't true dude

>>58400926
then disable it?

>>58401095
He's right. http://www.tweaking4all.com/os-tips-and-tricks/macosx-tips-and-tricks/smbup-mac-os-x-smb-fix/

>>58396186
HFS+ file rot is real, and fucking scary when it happens to you. Your backups will likely be corrupted and you will have no way of knowing until you interact with a damaged file. By then it is likely too late.

Thank god apple is finally going to replace that pile of shit. NTFS, ZFS, even fucking Ext4 are better at rot prevention.

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>>58401155
>t. mactoddler

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>>58401200
>thank god the clueless fucking street shitters than made the worst filesystem in the history of computing are releasing another filesystem

>>58401322
hold option

This thread has been brought to you by Apple Computer in an effort to educate you about Apple Macintosh operating systems. We have simulated a posting by an actual user being impressed by our operating system for marketing purposes.

We hope you have enjoyed this thread. Thanks from APPLE COMPUTERS!

Windows has 3rd party software and can do all.of that

Clover for tabs on file manager
Honeyview for preview of images
Etc

>>58396186
God why are these products only for macs?
Garageband, Logic, Final Cut Pro.
And why is the macfag only one who is uploading cracked vsts to torrent sites?

>>58401335
If you are sipping the apple kool-aid, hope is all you have sometimes

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Shill thread #4727942611

The OS has its cool things and its problems. Many people are quick to praise it as best OS because for their usage they might not have to do X or Y which may have problems there. However for instance, Finder gets a lot of hate for 2 things (not being able to show hidden files without a terminal command and not rearranging files automatically when resizing a window) but it has a set of really great features that you can't find anywhere else.

Another thing is that it gets complaints about usage, for instance the closing behavior which in the end it's a matter of learning and ends up becoming more convenient (you have most of the time two options instead of one) or moving/copying files which you can toggle with a key. The OS has some additions that make the good old windows users lose their shit quickly without thinking twice.

Take for example this man right here >>58401007 he doesn't know how to take a screenshot, in his incompetence he blames the system >>58401041 which is pretty frequent these days.

In any case it's a pretty competent system despite Apple trying to kill it and it's inevitable that there will be quite a few people here who do not even wish to try it because "it might bring a case of the gays" and "my friends told me apple was shit, including every single product".

>>58398160
Talk about hypocrisy

>>58396186
>itt
>man children defending their shit decisions with autimismo lvl 100

>>58401565
>not being able to show hidden files without a terminal command

Command + Shift + . (period)

>>58401618
Huh. I remember having to do that. I guess that's another problem less, many thanks

>all these manchildren gamers with ingrained hatred for macOS because the only reason they own a computer is to waste their time on earth chasing pixels

>Arguing that having faster storage is useless

This is when you know you have hit complete rock bottom.

>>58396186

We tried, but you spergs didn't listen

Also
>SPOTLIGHT
see alfred

>>58396186
When people are paid to do it and are actually managed, GUI is usually good.

That's why Gnome, KDE and others will still be shit.

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It's the best OS.

>>58402539

alfred is miles ahead of spotlight and there's no reason not to use it as a replacement

>>58402548
Great arguments

OSX is the logical end result of a hypothetically well developed linux distro

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brew > apt > dogshit > yum

>>58402663
>emoji in terminal

superior OS

>>58398352
I use Windows too, but here's the thing - productive people are productive across platforms and mediums. Don't blame your inability to work, focus, or achieve on trivial aspects of some software suite.

>>58402675
Yea it's a pretty comfy experience. Only time I don't like it is when I need linux specific tools.

Also i'm running on very old hardware that I refuse to upgrade because of how shit apple has become lately. My MPV can barely do interpolation on 1080p files right now.

>>58402707
oh i know, i have a hackintosh. Iterm2 with a custom background is a pretty comfy terminal.

i literally just made the switch to 100% macOS in my house. I just deleted my windows partition cuz i quit gaming.

>>58396186
is there anyway to get the mouse to feel the exact same as windows? trying to play csgo is painful on osx

>>58402783
google "mousefixer2"

>>58402757
What's the benefit of Iterm2?

Can you mac shills stop it? Nobody thinks it is a serious computer no matter how much of you pajeets shill it. It's for Facebook and nothing else. We do serious computer work! Get your fisher price OS to /gd/

>>58402802
normie tier: custom backgrounds, fullscreen mode, better color palettes, screen splitting

if you are autismo tier the list goes on and on. I only do light terminal usage so i dont have some 1337 haxor shortcuts but its super capable.

>>58399239
Madoka is so hot

>>58402824
>t. poorfag with winshit for gaymen

can you pass a graphics card through to a vm in osx? anyone have a guide or any experience?

>>58402830
https://www.iterm2.com/features.html
Looks pretty comfy desu. I'll keep it in mind for if the regular terminal ever starts feeling like a bottleneck.

>>58402882
Set the background as some high res space image for maximum comfy and then go fullscreen on it on a spare monitor.

>close button minimizes the window

>>58402876
Yes, its a workaround for people who don't want to fully commit to a hackintosh. Its a good way to go full autismo and run linux and OSX at the same time.

>>58399374
Nowhere because its shit

>>58402889
Unless I am missing something, the standard terminal does fullscreen and background images as well

>>58399374
linux will always been that retarded OS for people who needlessly complicate things that could be done in 1 second via a GUI. If linux would stop making the vast majority of their corner stone software CLI only then they could really grow their market share.

>>58398319
Better than being an icuck.

>>58396505
There's https://github.com/kyleneideck/BackgroundMusic but it's still in pretty early development.

>>58401338
not him
still pretty retarded that you have to do that
why can't they just have a merge option right there by default?

>>58399321
That is not an insult. It's like saying that toddler is a winner at life. Which he certainly showed your ass up.

>>58399515
Then why is it poorfags can run better games and have better specs for cheaper price than Mac's do?

>>58399599
It is actually that is why it looks so shiny to have autists buy it and screetch over their low end specs.

>>58403125
>biggest selling point is gaymen
typical winfag manchild

>>58403114
t. wintoddler

>>58402699
So are you saying someone can be productive using gentoo? K

>>58402981
So is os x but it has a higher market share than all loonix distros combined. The key here is to market that piece of shit in a way that people will eat it up.

>>58403151
You can't draw on a mac and it doesn't have Nvidia for 3d work.

Can't game on it, Linux support is shit.

They are great if you are prone to anal discharge and emotional outbursts.

I miss the old mac pro where i could change out the graphics card and so on.. hate that everything is soldered in now. Considering going to PC to build an epic 4K edit suit. Also somthing that will render AE like a boss And have the ability to do a bit of gaming.

>>58396262
tits or gtfo

>>58403889
How’s /mlp/ emily?

>>58398141
>Mavericks
You literally picked the Windows Vista of OS X and put the bugs on display.

Wow that was hard,

You clearly invested all of your brain's capacity into this post,

>t. mactoddler

>>58396186
because you have to pay 3k for it to come on a machine worth getting
>muh thinness
the new 12" macbook is a piece of shit

>>58407353
Lets say you're going to get a $3k model (even though you'll be perfectly fine with a $2k one)
Lets say you're going to use it for for 3 years (even though people are doing fine with their 4-5 year old Pros)
$3000/1095=$2.74/day
Pic related

>>58407353
>What is a hackintosh
>What is a thinkpad dual boot Windows and MacOS
>What is a desktop triple booting MacOS Linux and Windows

You are retarded and don't even belong on this board if you think that people advocating using MacOS are telling you to run to the Apple Store and empty your wallet.

I just built a desktop for 1350 thats better than the MacPro for 3500 and it runs like a dream.

When my 11inch MBA dies I'll get a thinkpad

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>>58407571
fuck

>>58407588
>saving a total of $3000 dollars is fucking nothing

>>58396262
desu means the pleasure of being cummed inside

>>58407587
I have a $600 desktop and hackintosh still runs pretty smoothly.

>>58396186
Finder is highly annoying
For example. You can't set different layouts for different folders.
You can only set layout once and EVERY folder will get that layout

>>58408396
what are you even talking about? you can set a different layout for every folder

There is a webm of someone trying to resize a window in osx while listening to a keynote talking about easiness user experience and shit, does someone have it ?

>>58408417
>>58408417
Teach me. I'm got a macOS device a few weeks back and I'm constantly urged to throw that macbook out of my window

>>58408441
just change the settings for the directory you want, it'll create a .DS_Store file with your settings
if it doesn't find that then it just uses whatever your default settings are

>>58408529
So that's why all those DS_Store files are in my SMB shares.
I kept deleting them.

Thanks mate

>>58408624
hahahahaha are you for real

>>58408627
Coming from an Windows enviroment. Never seen those files. So yes. I deleted them.

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b-but im using it (is this the new MacOS Desktop thread?)

Is a refurbished 12" macbook worth the price
It's $299 cheaper than a brand new macbook
Is there a noticable difference between the 1.1GHz and 1.3GHz processors?
ready to fall for the trackpad and UNIX meme

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Little known feature--no other OS has it.

PROXY ICONS:
See the little icon in the titlebar? That's a file proxy. You can drag that to move a file anywhere in the filesystem, or to another application. Right click on it in certain apps to get a path chain.

>>58408914
Are macs the ultimate shitposting machine?

>>58408926
Yes.

>>58408938
that's it, i'm getting a macbook then

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>>58408960
Quicklook makes shit posting so convenient. Just press space on a selected file for an instant preview. Very good for pepe selection.

>>58408988
that's way easier than using the piece of shit GTK file picker i'm using right now

>>58396417

>The hardware is super over priced though.

YOU ARE NOT PAYING FOR JUST HARDWARE

YOU ARE ALSO PAYING FOR A WELL- MADE CUSTOM OS FROM APPLE THEMSELVES WITH YEARS OF MAINTENANCE AND UPDATES

HOLY SHIT HOW ARE PEOPLE STILL MISSING THIS POINT.

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>>58408999
Built in full featured multi-rename as well.

>>58409008

Because it's a shit OS that keeps getting uglier, slower and makes changes for no reason.

>>58409008
you're paying for the hardware too
windows kiddies only want to look at raw specs
>haha this gaymen laptop has a .3ghz faster processor and a better gpu macfags on suicide watch
what they fail to look at is the hardware that actually matters in a laptop; macs have objectively better screens, touchpads, keyboards, battery life, and aren't made of cheap plastic

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Full featured visual script editor, with the additional option of executing unix scripts, or anything else that can be called from command line.

Automate your shitposting. Make every file an ugly compressed jpeg with minimal effort, or make it a OS service that can be called from anywhere in the OS, including other apps.

>basic features you've found in Linux for ages
Also it wasn't always like this op. Macos has been really crappy in the past too.

>copy paste
>drag and drop
Anon this exists everywhere. The reason it is being used now is because people care about UX more now that it's a meme. If we go back 5 years a 'good ui' means a moron can operate it at peak efficiency. Now a good UI means proving intuitive options. Dragging and dropping on Windows and responding to paste messages is nothing new on the OS side.

I'm pretty sick of you under-power users that think you're experiencing the wonders of technology when you haven't even looked into OS API and reflected over the possibilities.

Also. Why are you presenting all this as if we'd know what the fuck you mean when you say 'drag a file onto finders back button'. It means absolutely nothing to most people. I don't even keep up with Macos enough to know what finder is.

>>58409089
Mac os has ALWAYS had a huge visual ease of use paradigm--in fact, it wasn't until roughly 10.6 that it was in feature parity with OS9! But hey, you never used it, right? Nigger.

>>58401055

macOS not on a Mac doesn't function properly. ts not made to work with any other hardware and Apple actively tries to pretend installation and function on anything else.

Your argument is completely invalid. A Mac is a package. Using either the hardware or the OS on without the other is fucking retarded. Like arguing your Lambo is shit because it can't run well on a Mini Cooper engine or some shit. Don't be fucking stupid.

>>58409145
I've been using hackintosh instead of my macs since the intel transition. Never had any problems, but I'm not retarded either.

>>58409008
>you also pay for an OS licence
A very expensive OS licence. And the EOL for Mac OS releases come extremely quickly with no garaunteed minimum support afaik.

Microsoft and Windows are shit but since they're standard in most businesses they at least pretend to be reliable.

Finder is an awful file manager, windows 98 explorer is better ffs.

>>58409164
The EOL on apple hardware is well described in the support docs on apple's site, however, eol on the OS is completely unknown. It's a real fucking pain in the ass.

>>58409051

Can you fucking read? I said not JUST hardware. You can't be that retarded, surely.

>>58409196
but the OS is free anon

>>58409140
>I make claims and point to nothing to back it up
OK anon. No need to be upset while you make your claims.

>>58409176
fuck off faggot. you have no idea what you are talking about.

I've used pretty much every file management system on most OS systems since 1985. Amiga workbench, BeOS tracker, Explorer in every incarnation, finder since macs existed, most unix/linux filemanagers (and that's a lot), and none of them are as good as finder--unless you're a retard and don't learn how to use it. Shit, nautilus/gnome have been trying to duplicate finder from os7 for so long now that it gives me a goddamned headache, right down to the 'spatial' shit they couldn't implement correctly. Now they're trying to clone OSX. What a joke.

Do I need an apple account to use a macbook?

>>58409242
Is an apple account a thing?

>>58409242
No, but you'll need one if you wanna use itunes/messages/icloud etc. Totally unnescessary

>>58409164

Not a license, you fucking handicap. This isn't Windows. Apple has some part of their company actively working on and maintaining current and future macOS versions. They're not Dell who just pay MS and throw in a few drivers.

Once you're actually smart enough to realize what's going on, you'll find that the high end laptop market is more jew than Apple can ever dream to be. Windows OEMs do less than half of the work of Apple and are starting to charge the same.

The XPS 13 costs £1,000. A thousand pounds for a fucking Windows machine that doesn't even play games (the only point of Windows in the first place) and doesn't have a custom OS.

>>58409238
>I've used most Linux file managers
How does finder win over my preferred file manager (which I don't particularly use much desu) thunar.

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>>58396186

while i hate windows 10 and love osx. (cant stand windows after 8/10)

it has its major flaws, and all those flaws are finder.

>tabs

yeah so what? its still slow as shit, and i prefer having multiple windows. its faster if i have to constantly copy shit

I agree on rest of your points, but finder is horrible compared to explorer.

i have a big list of why i hate it tho, cba to post it but the way it feels so slow compared to explores really grinds my tits.

>>58406757
why would you want to see man tits?
dude said clearly that he owns a mac

>>58409287
far more features--and it doesn't shit the bed on large cross network file copies. It also is more customizable. (finder can be hugely customized, including automatic actions when files are place in particular directories).

>>58398949
but accurate

>>58409309
>more features
Name a few?
>doesn't shit the bed on network large network transfers
The few times I've done that on (relatively small 6gb image file moves) it performed as well as I'd expect it to based on network speed (got 90+% network utilisation).
What usually fails with thunar?

>>58409238
Apple is taking design ques from gnome, not the other way around.
Or do you think everything apple makes was made by them first, even though history says otherwise?

As for file managers:
Dolphin is not only as good as finder, it exceeds finder in every category.

>>58409238

seriously, i want to like it and every macfag praises it. but everytime i use it i feel like retarded.

search is so useless that i would rather go to the windows pc 20 feet away just to use explorer search.

back and forth using mouse buttons doesnt work (easy fix i bet)

difficult to navigate massive folder hierarchies.

right click open with (working) (working) instead of just having the list prefucking loaded.

Doesnt show folder tree like explorer to easily go up where you want.

delete button does nothing lol (probably a setting)

cant easily access my main folders that i use from anywhere (save windows, different finder windows, etc)

feel like im always going the long way to access the folder i want.

all these issues and probably more are my concerns, every time i have to use finder compared to explorer i get sad inside.

All these things in explorer are lightningfast.

so, what am i doing wrong desu? is there hope?

also path finder and total finder are good alternatives but they cant fully integrate into the OS.

>>58409406
If that were the case, why does GNOME still look like shit?

Like, sure it's possible that Apple niggers design from others, they certainly did a lot with iOS but given the end result it's hardly something negative.

>>58409338
copies occasionally crash thunar, including local disk copies to other filesystems. I've found it to be generally a little flaky at times. Speed isn't an issue though, but locking up completely, or closing (crashing) unexpectedly occurs here and there. I don't mind thunar, I just with it wasn't tied to so many third party libs that may or may not be stable.

Finder has all the features you'd expect, but also includes, (basic feature set):
real time resizable thumbnails of video, audio (plays in icon, no extra player needs to open), custom tagging and metadata, vector graphics, and anything else that third party apps develop a plugin for. (quicklook technology)

spotlight: find any file based on tagging, metadata, contents, location-drill-down, file type, general type, dates, natural language, etc.

Full file multi-rename with many options.

Spatial or browser or tabbed browsing.

Fully customizable look and feel.

Additional content info selectable in icon view as well as list.

Size of folders can be calculated. (still not available in windows lol)

Folder actions-scriptable actions on arbitrary and specific files, per folder.

OS-services available in finder--including automatic third party app support via actions, scripts, services, etc.

Can mount local and remote filesystems from the menu, including vnc, ssh, ftp, dav, nfs, etc.

File sharing built in, supports a number of sharing services, and other third party services can be added via actions, services, plug ins, etc.

The only limit to finders ability is how clevery you are with automator, applescript, or unix scripting. Or writing services from scratch in your favourite development language.

There's more, but you get the picture.

Most finder users don't know its capabilities. Having come from other OS's with extended graphical filemanagement (like beos and amiga) I spent time looking for features. And found all the ones I want.

>>58409275
>it's not a licence
Yeah but if you're 'not paying for hardware' and paying for the OS and the updates as you claim you're really just paying what's equivalent to a licence as you don't get the source or any rights to modify that OS.

>Apple do a lot of work
Shame the billions of dollars they earn couldn't provide billions of dollars worth of value to the end user.
>Windows OEM's are shit
No news there anon. But they haven't been fucking up windows XP as bad as apple was fucking up their OS when I used it in 07.
>they're getting worse
Nothing new. I use my own (Linux) distribution obviously. But I don't see why you have to compare Apple to Windows in this way. You can have expectations on a companies performance in isolation to other companies.

If you're not just paying for hardware, and you're paying for the OS. How would you put it? Do you really have to argue semantics? It doesn't matter to the end consumer how they bucket their income.

If Mac was this major researcher that actually produced stuff and didn't just rebrand (which no sane macfag can argue against them having been doing for the last 20 years) then I'd get the 'you pay for the development' argument more. But all we see is extremely minor 'improvements' upon existing design that certainly doesn't warrant paying the massive premium you do.

>>58409510
Pretty much any small third party app you'd use in windows or linux (like viewers, resizers, meta data modifiers, etc etc etc) are already in the OS. You just need to explore the menus or read the help file. lol.

>>58396186

I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux,
is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux.
Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell
utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day,
without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU
which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are
not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a
part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system
that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run.
The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself;
it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is
normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system
is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux"
distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>58408734
>subhuman twins with no Amelia in sight
nice desktop though

Can windows or any linux file manager execute data manipulation commands/programs on arbitrary files upon being dropped in a specific folder?

If the answer is 'no' then you're not using a file manager as good as finder.

>>58409510
Anon I don't mean to be offensive but reading this it literally sounds like you're writing the kind of marketing you find on the back of shitty Chinese tools.
Stuff like 'fully customizable', it doesn't hold true, its not what anyone was asking for and it'd be unfeasible.

Folder scriptable actions (what I presume is just sugar for scripts that run on files as you place them in folders) is cool. Easily replicated but as a normal-user feature it seems cool that they're pushing some typically power user features on the less experienced.
But I'm concerned with feature bloat. In my experience with Apple they haven't even been able to keep ui consistent across devices (the 'compose email' button on Ipad vs iPhone vs desktop for instance) so I wonder how finder holds up for normal users.

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Here is a perfect visual example of how apple makes computers that empower users.

Nice dildo thread you got here faggots

I think we have a literal shill guys. But it's a bit odd being called a nigger by a shill..

>>58409763
A shill that uses linux every day, you nigger faggot.

I'm just not a retard.

I prefer Amiga OS lol.

I just think its pretty shitty to run down mac os when its so goddamned good.

I'd like a moment of silence for every person who in the comments to a popular software release asks when it will be available on Mac.

Thank you.

>>58409782
Why are you using all the marketing wank words though? Why not write like a normal person instead of reading like the product page for the latest i-device. It reminds me of the iWater shop.

>>58409483
>If that were the case, why does GNOME still look like shit?
Because gnome people are retarded as fuck.
I don't know why they cannot do anything right.
But the client side decorations was on gnome first.
The panel in top was gnome first.

>>58409839
Did you understand it? Because if you did, I have succeeded in communicating a simple list of features. Isn't that the way it supposed to be? Or would you rather I used markdown or latex or some other meme shit you'd like to decipher.

>>58409945
I'm telling you how to improve your work performance and shill more effectively Chen. If you want that promotion you should damn well listen.

>>58409976
I'm already a top shit poster on G. The best linux memes that trash it most effectively were created by me.

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>>58396186

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Modified shit post with better elaboration

>>58397619
All retina iMacs are 16:9

>>58409089
They've been in OS X for ages too, you're just late to the party in finding out about them.

>>58402545

Wallpaper ?

>>58408734
Is Sierra good compared to El Capitan?

>>58410237
it's a lot better

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Ponder this linux niggers:
This 1985 OS has had arbitrary metadata available in every file, including software configuration, in the fucking icon info, and you're still stuck using the /etc, usr/share, usr/local/share, /usr/local/etc, (etc) shit forever.

Guarantee:

Ban all mac posters
Ban all windows 7+ posters
Ban all posters from poor regions

Voila, shitposting no longer exists.

>>58410127
>you're just late
I think you mean op. I'm not saying that there's anything new being discussed here at all.
I was stating that it's not new features on any OS.
Of course Linux is a mixed bag and somewhere there's probably some DE where drag and drop is a new thing but in general.

>>58410264
>file metadata
That's a file format feature. Or they're doing something dumb in the filesystem. You really shouldn't be messing with metadata on the file system level. It's a mess.

>>58410320
There is a lot more to drag and drop than just icon proxies.

Unless the DE and API support drag and drop, you're gonna be relegated to copying files like we copied them in 1985 on macs, amigas, c64 geos, and acorn systems.

Let that sink in. LET THAT SINK IN--1985 faggots!

>>58396466
Louis Rossman begs to differ.

>>58410354
>unless DE and OS API supports it
Well not really OS API. Since drag and drop is a purely DE environment feature it can run whatever code it wants when it receives a 'file dropped' message. It's just that OS API often contains the programmatic interactions you can have with the DE in some manner in the proprietary packages like Windows or Mac OS.
I'm not sure why you're making it a point that drag and dropping files is old. Yes. It's one of the easiest inventions. And it makes op mentioning it first in his list of cool mac features rather odd.

>>58410426
Doubt it. He's talking laptops. Apple has a lot of high quality desktops (which I'd still argue is inefficient in feature/price but that's the high end for you). And that's what anon here is mentioning lest he be completely mad.

>>58410482
>Buying an iMac

Text boxes in OS X work with Emacs keybindings. Ctrl+v and Opt+v for Page Down and Page Up, Ctrl+a and e for moving the cursor the the beginning and end of the line, Opt+arrow for moving the cursor word to word, Opt+backspace/delete for deleteing a word at a time-e, etc.

>>58410016
If you can't it confirms you're a retard.

You don't know what a command is!? Retard.

That's what a command is, there's your answer for '2', retard.

'LOL WUT?´ You cannot spend 5 seconds without people thinking of you as a retard, can you?

t. mactoddler

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>>58396186
Finder is garbage, but still much better than any other file explorers I've used. Mac OS is also comfy UNIX underneath. You can easily get root access and disable SIP to get out of the walled garden. iOS is dogshit but Mac OS is really good.

I'm also here to shill this SSD. It's cheap and 4x faster than the mechanical hard drive I replaced recently.

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-MX300-275GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B01IAGSD5O/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1484001025&sr=8-1&keywords=275gb+ssd

>>58411072
that SSD won't fit inside the latest macbook, though

>>58411129
The newest MacBooks are shit, honestly. I'll be sticking to this 2011 Pro until support is dropped, then I'll start hackintoshing. I like being able to replace the parts without a soldering iron.

>>58410304
But you'd still be here.

>>58411158
>2011
but I want some force touch and retina display
also, laptops were sooooooo thick back then
i mean, damn, look at how thick the macbook air is
there's no excuse for that when the sexy sexy macbook exists

Why can't I drag windows with key oars shortcuts why can't I maximize a window with out it going full screen. Where the fuck is the shortcut key to delete files with out having to empty the trashcan. Why the fuck does CS6 and apple remote desktop suck so much ass on sierra

>>58411158
The newer Pros are great. Excluding 2016's.

>>58411193
You can buy an external display if you need something better. And if you think that my laptop is thick, you've obviously never used 90s laptops. Those things were bricks.

>>58411225
I've heard this, and I considered a 2015 15 inch. Having soldered RAM is a huge turnoff though.

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>>58396186
The biggest thing I miss about finder is bashing spacebar to preview files. Literally 90% of photos, music, Office or whatever other files could be previewed. Worked great when needing to find a hot meme to post.

I missed it so much I installed a package to do the same thing on Ubuntu, can't remember what it's called though.

Windows still makes me suffer though.

>>58411158
>I like being able to replace the parts without a soldering iron.
That meme is gone, just accept it.

been using a macbook pro since 2011. my first lasted me five years, bought the 2015 model just before the refresh.

i like them a lot but this one will be my last, fuck the #donglelife

>bought a 2015 MBP for £900 in early 2016
>in 2017 the same laptop, now two years old, costs £1400

thanks Nige

>>58398379
No battery life meter and other bullshit is finally driving normalfags away

>>58399781
>serious IO
>on a fucking laptop
Yeah, it's pretty obvious you aren't grasping at straws

>>58396262
You should feel like you got cummed inside. Apple fucks people more than anyone.

>>58411297
>That meme is gone, just accept it.
>t. Pajeet

I'd rather hackintosh. Go away, you tech illiterate normie.

>>58411250

What do you think a RAM upgrade does to a 2015 laptop in 6 years? All laptops will move to soldered because the times of RAM upgrades making a difference are gone. Yet people still don't get this.

>>58411492
Going from 4 to 10GB in my current machine made a huge difference. Everything is faster and I can have more stuff open at once.

But hey, whatever floats your boat. You're not wasting my money.

>>58411477
Hackingtosh what? Saving bit money but wasting time on upgrading an outdated piece of shit with more RAM and a new SSD? Mobile devices simply don't work like that anymore and the differences with screen technology alone makes it idiotic.

>>58411301
>blaming farage
The new pricing is up only because Apple now have to pay billions to the EU for the tax thing. They decided that the consumers should pay for that which is very sad.

>>58398967
I don't have a phobia of gays, I just don't like them. It's 2017 after all.

>>58411521

We're talking about machines that ship right now with around 16GB of RAM. Like the MacBook pro.

The CPU will bottleneck performance before RAM does.

>>58411551
>Hackingtosh what?

Something with x86 hardware, obviously. I haven't decided on the exact machine since it will be at least another 3 years before I need a new machine.

>Saving bit money but wasting time on upgrading an outdated piece of shit with more RAM and a new SSD?

More like saving a lot of money, and whatever machine I hackintosh will be new, requiring no such upgrades.

>Mobile devices simply don't work like that anymore and the differences with screen technology alone makes it idiotic.

There are plenty of Mac OS capable PCs with amazing displays. I also wouldn't consider a laptop to be a mobile device, since most use x86 chips and run a desktop OS of some kind.

>>58411606
Again, I don't care. You are free to waste your money on whatever you want, and so am I. I want a PC with user replaceable parts, so that is what I'll buy.

>>58411595
So why are the prices in other EU countries still the same?

>>58411655
>There are plenty of Mac OS capable PCs with amazing displays.
Most of this are just as limited when it comes to upgrades nor exactly cheaper.

>I also wouldn't consider a laptop to be a mobile device, since most use x86 chips and run a desktop OS of some kind.
It's still a mobile device and not some kind of desktop replacement when we talk about <14" sizes, so factors like battery life and size/weight are priorities for most, hence the manufacturers prioritize that instead of muh upgradebility.

>>58401335
Applel has been able to poach some of the best in the industry and shit excellent products, like the A series SoC's
APFS looks pretty competent all around

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>>58398983
>measuring storage performance by load times
What is this? 2010 all over again?

>>58411706
>Most of this are just as limited when it comes to upgrades nor exactly cheaper.

Most are at least a couple hundred USD cheaper, and Dell offers some very nice business laptops which work well for hackintoshing. Those have user replaceable parts.

>It's still a mobile device and not some kind of desktop replacement when we talk about <14" sizes, so factors like battery life and size/weight are priorities for most, hence the manufacturers prioritize that instead of muh upgradebility.

I disagree. I think that x86 is what separates desktops from mobile devices. Running x86 programs is a lot more useful than angry birds and a starbucks app. As long as laptops exist that have user replaceable RAM and hard drives, I will always buy those. If there ever comes a time when all laptops have all components soldered in, I will take into consideration the chink trash you're shilling.

>>58411751
>APFS looks pretty competent all around
Isn't that the ONE thing that linus hates about macs though? the shit file system

>>58411912
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apple_File_System
the clones bit seems real interesting

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>>58407922
>compares having a computer for 3 years to not having one for 3 years

>>58409747
You can do it from shell as well so you get to choose whether you want to integrate shell tools into GUI or not if you don't care.

>>58411706
>So why are the prices in other EU countries still the same?
They aren't. Not in my country Spain, not in Switzerland (where I travel frequently), not in neighbouring countries.

>>58411207
command+backspace to delete files

>>58412299
>need to hold a button to do anything
what a shit os

>>58413980
>keybindings are shit
what a shit opinion

>>58411689

>I just want the ability to replace shit even though it doesn't help the purpose, on a laptop

Ok retard.