What are your thoughts on IPv6?

It's certainly 2 better than IPv4.

>>58381332
Still a meme, gonna take a couple of years to get widespread use.
Greater than ipv4, of course.

it's a fucking travesty we still haven't abandoned Legacy IP and switched over to IP

just my 2cents

>>58382176
Supposedly it's because people are afraid it'd be easier to identify you when it comes to piracy. There are arguments that say that's not the case, but I dunno.

>>58381332
annoying to memorize addresses
I don't use that shit on my LAN

>>58382278
lol you can use literally whatever on your LAN

my isp just assigned ipv6
now all my devices have unique public ip addresses

what do

>>58381332
It'll be easier to switch ip addresses (because availability) and you're less likely to get handed down an ip used by a pedo. Also easier to bypass ip bans.

>>58381549
I swear I've been hearing this shit for 20 years now.

>>58382308
Baka. Tell your isp that unless they'll give you your IPv4 back, you are changing the isp

>>58382356
But why anon? Isn't Internet Protocol Version 6 the future?

>>58382356
but i'm stuck with them for the next couple of years

also, they're the only ones here that offer fiber

>>58382310
It'll also be easier to pursue you for whatever bullshit laws some fucks came up with. Not that it's impossible with IPv4, but at least the law enforcement had to put some effort into it so no one really went after some dude who just downloaded a tv show.
In that sense, IPv4 is like captcha from law. They won't do you anything unless you did something really bad.

>>58382480
VPNs exist for a reason.

>>58382489
VPNs are shit

>>58382396
You can always try. Threats don't cost you anything and you always have a non-zero probability of a success.

Dual-stack is in full effect goyim

>>58382373
who said the future would be good?

>>58382310
>and you're less likely to get handed down an ip used by a pedo
...and that's the reason why no one takes IPv4 addresses seriously making it a bit safer to use

>>58382308
Why are all your devices public facing, I'm guessing you did it intentionally? How does that work for security?

I'm used to the IPv4 NAT scenario where you have one public facing device (e.g. a modem or firewall) and the internal network has internal addresses. I know IPv6 has link-local (prefix FE80) addresses for internal network, which are not public.

>>58383544
Apparently IPv6 lets every device have its own public IP address so there's no need for NAT

That could be a problem I guess, I'm not sure how it works out.

>>58382480
elaborate

>>58383782
If everyone watches porn, no one can call you out for watching porn.

>>58382259
it's affords you more privacy, you could change IP per request instead of every hour or after rebooting your modem.

>>58383544
there are already ipv6 firewalls, let me green text it for you
>ipv4
>you have a single endpoint at the modem/router
>all requests are NAT'd using a table in the router
>firewall rules are applied based on the port and address

>ipv6
>you have a block endpoint at the modem/router
>firewall rules are applied based on the port and address

that's it, 99.9% of the time your machine's firewall is not handling internet traffic directly, the modem/router combo still has a drop all rule by default for all internet originated traffic, the difference is you are applying rules to a global address space rather than a internal one.

its shit

>>58383782
With IPv4 law enforcement has to go through isp to identify you, so they don't bother if you are just downloading some pirated animu, but with IPv6 they could go directly to you. That won't probably make them pursue every kid downloading pirated vidya out there, but it will definitely make things easier for them.

>>58381332
What do you think is easier to remember: A bunch of numbers or a bunch of numbers and letters?
10.1.1.1 or 0:0:0:0:0:ffff:a01:101?

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>>58383945
>>58384049
>Being this stupid...

>>58381332

Rolled it out a few years ago (Comcast) at home, and a little over a year ago at my company.

There are big advantages in that you don't have to resort to a VPN or the excruciating L4 translations. Dealing with SIP (a protocol that doesn't handle NAT well) is also far more straightforward.

Biggest issue to date has been carriers that are "Tier 1" for IPv4, but nowhere near this for IPv6 - as in they have a single upstream peer and zero diversity.

Microsoft (O365), Google (Youtube), Facebook all rolled out IPv6 years ago, so that is the bulk of the traffic at my office that matters - but if there's a carrier issue, it affects everything.

>>58384049
>what is IPv6 address shortening

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So I was looking at my router's IPv6 firewall setup. This is just the same as you'd configure a NAT right?
Another thing, where it says "English" I'm assuming they meant "Remote IP".
>pic related
It's an Asus AC68U if anyone has one and can confirm.

>>58383945
that's not how it works. Open a new tab and search around. You have between 5 minutes and a month to understand how it works and realize how fucking dumb is what you posted. Go ahead, we are timing you shithead.

>>58381332
Trying to encourage colleagues to to start migrating to IPv6 is s fucking nightmare
>it's too hard
>it doesn't make sense
>can't memorize it
Anyone who can't adopt the future of IP is a bad technologist.

it isnt supported enough to matter yet.

try switching over on IPv6 day and see how few things you can get to.

>>58384405
It's entirely plausible, simply by using NAT64 or NAT46 depending on where you need to get traffic to, and what side supports what protocol.

>>58384405

Running dual-stack is completely trivial, and BIND/Tayga make a DNS64/NAT64 implementation almost as trivial.

If you use a smart phone, you've been using IPv6 all day, every day for quite a few years now.

>>58384191
there's no place like ::1

>>58381332
How many times per week are we gonna have this thread?

My opinion on IPv6 is that it's difficult to deploy due to its increased complexity and very different design from IPv4, but once people understand how to use it, it will be for the better.

I mean, IPv4 clearly has no future, so the question is whether you want to push IPv6 or something else (e.g. IPv4-with-more-bits), and I'd say the chances of doing the latter at this stage are virtually impossible.

>>58382308
>what do
Turn on privacy extensions so your devices get random IPv6 addresses instead

>>58384405
>>58384510
this

many ISPs, phone carriers etc. are IPv6-only these days for regular customers, using a combination of ISP-level address pooling or NAT64 gateways

Also, “switching over” to IPv6 makes no sense, because IPv6 is separate from IPv4. Just turn on IPv6 support and be done with it, it's designed to operate in a dual-stack mode during the transition period.

Networking noob here

Could you guys point me to a good, easy-to-understand tutorial or book that showcases what ipv6 has over ipv4?

I don't have enough experience yet to fully understand the offical RFC's.

>>58385189
I don't know of any specific resource that you want, but I found this series very fascinating while trying to learn IPv6 and its upsides and downsides:

http://www.circleid.com/posts/20150118_im_not_running_ipv6_so_i_dont_have_to_worry_ipv6_security_myth_1/

See also the follow-ups, it's a 10-part series. Hope you learn something.

>>58385189
https://tunnelbroker.net/

Includes a few certs as well.

>>58385349
The rest are linked from here:

http://www.circleid.com/members/6756/

>>58385349
>>58385366
>>58385380
Thanks guys, I'll take a look