I pity the poor fool who truly believes these are obsolete.

/g/ PCs are just fancy games consoles so in that context, yes they are obsolete.
They're fine for grandma's emailing machine though.
Inb4 some contrarian faggots claims he doesn't play games and does serious work and fails to fool anyone.

obsolete for gaming

would probably still be good for non-intensive programs and web browsing

Build times for my project would be on the hours on that thing. And can they even use a web IDE alike C9 without shitting the bed? Managing AWS stuff? I doubt it

>>58377614
I'm still trucking along with an e8400 and have no need to upgrade – it does what I need it to do. I love the fact that you can cool these things passively with just a big ol' heatsink.

E8500 and 7950 gpu can play Star Wars Battlefront. Bit juddery in places but if I turned down the quality it would be fine. I'm not going to get a new gaming pc until I really have to as we've also got xbox one.
Still plays all the games I love.

>>58377649
>>58377691
>>58377757
When I say obsolete, I'm talking about normie tasks. Not gaming/programming/rendering because genetically neurotypical human beings have no business doing that.

>>58377812
People use phones for that grandpa

>>58377812
not an argument

>>58377847
Some people:
a) prefer the bigger screen because vision/usability
b) like having a regular-sized physical keyboard to type on
c) need to do a little more than what a phone can handle
Hence why everyone in my family has at least a laptop, if not a desktop.
>>58377917
It wasn't intended to be. And you're not funny. Kill yourself.

>>58377614
E6550 3,5GHz here, still working fine,
but I'm waiting for Zen upgrade

>>58377959
Whatever you say grandma.

These are obsolete

Kaby Lake is faster, much more power efficient, handles 8K HEVC Main10 and VP9 Profile2 without even breaking a sweat

>>58379142
It's also a base price that is often out of budget for neurotypical people. Hence why many still use these non-obsolete, perfectly functional computers every day.

>>58377812
>everyone who plays video games, programs, or does anything else that requires more than the bare minimum of computing power has a mental disorder!
You're a very special human being.

The Core 2 Duo is still faster than most modern laptop processors so I see no need for it to be obsolete. In fact, the iMacs from 2007-2010 have various Core 2 Duos and they're running very well

>>58377847
Not really, phones have only really superseded traditional PCs for basic web surfing and email roles, for something actually productive even the biggest normie usually keeps an ancient core2 laptop mothballed in the back room for whatever, phones and even tablets are inherently trash for a lot of jobs thanks to a shit user experience gimped for fat fingers

>>58377614
I still use a Librebooted Thinkpad T400 running Debian for shitposting and email. I have it set up in with an external monitor since the built in display is shit. It has a P8400, 4GB of RAM, and a 250GB HDD. It's plenty fast and I wouldn't mind using it as a daily driver if I didn't have the money for newer hardware.

>>58379865
You're even more special to overinterpret what I said.

>>58377649

grandma can email from a well equipped P3. She can also use an office suite, watch Oral Roberts videos on Youtube and shit like that.

>>58377757

I manage an AWS environment for one of my clients from a Pentium D 950 and, if that one is tied up, my Atom N450 Dell Mini 1012.

>>58377812
A C2D is fine for programming unless you're coding/testing high end games.

I've rescued two Acer notebooks that were headed for the trash. Maxed the CPUs in both (2.6 and 2.8ghz) and dropped in SSDs. They run fucking great. Their only real limitation is 4gb of RAM.

I also rescued a black MacBook 2ghz. Apple soldered the damn CPU (faggots) but it's actually still fine for a wide range of shit. The web is sluggish though. Games at least have an excuse but Pajeet's inefficient web shit with 40 meme js libraries really pisses me off.

I actually own 3 PC's with E8400's in them I use to play the arcade cracks of beatmania. They work pretty well for what they are. They're even able to run GTAV okay with a decent GPU.

I was pretty suprised at how capable they still are.

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>>58381432
Let's not get carried away. I tried to surf the web from what I'd say is a well equipped P3 (pic related) and it was painful. The oldest you can really go for tolerable internet speeds is a (high-end) Pentium 4/M or Athlon/Turion 64.

>>58381458
>pentium D
How has your house not burned down yet?

>>58381491
>Their only real limitation is 4gb of RAM.
4GB is plenty for normie needs. Hell, even 2GB can suffice.

I have a NAS/seedbox running on it, and it works just fine.

>tfw T500 with T9900 CPU

Shit's amazing, gets a bit toasty after a while though

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>>58381518

[spoiler]I use 32 bit because IIDX runs best on it for some reason. It's a really picky crack.[/spoiler]

>>58381714
>XP
But why?

>>58381762

just werks

>>58381783
And so does Windows 7. Not to mention it looks nicer and supports more modern software.

>>58381793

I use this computer mainly for cracks of arcade music games. They have really specific hardware/OS requirements to work and sync well. WXP seems to work the best for me.

>>58381826
I see. Carry on.

>>58377614
If you compare a C2D from 10 years ago to intel's latest offering, practical computing power has doubled.

It took 10 years to double.
While it may sound impressive if you were living under a rock, that's pathetic if you've built a PC in the last 10 years.

>>58381908
What do you mean by the latest offering? Pentium? i3? Certainly not i5/i7?

I'm going to get a 50$ e8400 rig and 30$ square monitor to dump my single core celeron 540 laptop, i dont need anything more desu

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>>58377614
I pity the poor.

>>58381964
You could just spend $30 on a T9600 and 4GB of RAM for your laptop. It'll make a world of difference.

>>58381992
I pity the poor in brain cells

>>58382002
socket incompatible

>>58382033
No, they're both Socket P. You may need to get the latest BIOS update for it to work, though.

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>>58377768
>>58381518
>>58381964
>mfw running media server off an old E8400 without issue

muh x265

The processor and the platform as a whole is obsolete.

>>58382039
pin compatible but not electrically compatible, bios is updated, i just want to get rid of it desu

>>58382049
do you even have hdmi on that shit?

>>58381531

A well equipped p3 would be something like this:

VIA Apollo 266T based mobo (like a Gigabyte GA-6RX)
Radeon 2400 AGP card
2GB RAM
minimum of a 933MHz P3
and arguably SATA 1.0 or 2.0 controller+drive.

Something like that would work pretty well IMO. I have an i820 based machine right now with a 933MHz proc, 1GB RDRAM, and a PCI based HD 2400 and it's pretty good.

>>58382064
No. Plex + Chromecast/PS4/smart tv

>>58382056
Okay, then put it on eBay for cheap, then use the money to fund something that's a better value than a C2D. C2D's are still usable, but I wouldn't go out of my way to buy one when newer CPU's can be had for slightly more.
>>58382070
You could probably buy 2 complete C2D systems for the same price as one of those motherboards. Why bother?

>>58377614
I pity the poor fool who thinks they're not. These aren't even useful in an HTPC anymore.

>>58382115
thing is, the keyboard is broken, fan is noisy and there's cum stains on the keyboard, idk if anyone will want it, i'll try tho

>>58382124
Bullshit, I use one every day

>>58382092
through ethernet or did you install a wifi card?

>>58382124
An HTPC is a fairly demanding task, though. The bottom of the barrel benchmark for obsolescence should be "Is it usable for web browsing, office productivity, and casual gaming?" And the answer to that question, when referring to the C2D, is a definite yes.

>>58382135
Ethernet. I used a USB dongle for wifi previously but since it's a desktop I've stuck with hard wiring

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>>58377614
My old mother has a Dell Studio 1535.

Intel Core2 Duo inside. I replaced the HDD with a SSD.

She uses it for web and e-mail, basically.

She's running GNU/Linux with a Xfce4 desktop and uses Firefox has her browser. It works just fine for her needs. That Core2 Duo is more than enough.

The most amazing thing is that it still looks brand new. She's always careful with it and always washes her hands before using it.

Pic isn't the 17" she has but it's about the same.

>>58377614
Fuck off poorfag, that shit sucks. I know because I had one until 2014, but I got a job.

>>58382218
does mcdonalds really pay that well?

I just bought one off ebay for 19 bucks.

Gonna upgrade my folk's browsing box with it. They have a Core Duo right now (1.66ghz).

Hoping everything will go alright, never installed a CPU but it shouldn't be hard.

>>58382265
weak bantz

>>58382370
bet you make em burgers dance on the frier

I pit the poor fool who is too poor to buy current year tech

>>58382370
yo is it true they make the hamburgers with worm meat?

>>58382470
I do LOL

>>58382496
Yes XDDDDD

>>58377812
A Pentium is perfectly sufficient for programming as long as you're not compiling the kernel or something.

>>58379142
Only good thing about Kaby Lake is that it will reduce Windows' market share.

>>58381762
It's the most secure version of Windows.

>>58382292
What OS is installed on that machine?

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My 2007 shitposter.

>>58377614
Worst than a celeron

>>58377614
used one till earlier this year. Still have it sitting around in case i wanna use it for something..

https://ark.intel.com/products/97143/Intel-Pentium-Processor-G4560-3M-Cache-3_50-GHz

Faster and more power efficient than any Core 2 for $64

>>58382124
>>58382139
my HTPC for a few years was a Core 2 and a GT610, really not that hard to do. It did x264, h.264 1080p stuff just fine

Has anyone here ever experimented with Pentium 4 and certain PCI video cards to decode video? I wanted to didn't have the time when I last looked into it

>>58377614
completely obsolete. Absolutely shit IPC.

>>58381531
>>pentium D
>How has your house not burned down yet?

Pentium D 950. It's not that bad and the stock Intel cooler keeps it in check well enough. From what I've heard they overclock pretty well too. I'm using an Intel mobo for mine so no overclocking and if I ever buy another 775 board it's gonna be for a C2Q.

>>58384930
>Has anyone here ever experimented with Pentium 4 and certain PCI video cards to decode video?

I have a 2.0GHz Northwood P4 with a Radeon HD3450 PCI. It pretty much offloads

>>58385319

dammit...

It pretty much offloads all video decoding from the CPU.

>>58381714
>PC almost falling off

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It's amazing that you can buy used computers with Sandy bridge i5 desktops for so cheap now if you wanted a decent non-gaming computer. Just add a SSD and you'll have a computer that will still be fast for probably the next 2 decades.

>>58377812
To be honest, an AMD E1 is up to normie tasks...
I hate it, I could not stand how slow they are, but hey, we are talking about normies.

Here is the list:
> can it open facebook.com?
> can it play a youtube.com video?
> can it upload pictures to facebook.com?
> can it like pictures on facebook.com?

If all check, it is the perfect machine for a normie.

>>58385490
Don't know, the PSU is old in those.

>>58378501
I can't get mine past 2.8, what mobo and cooler are you using?

What are you guys waiting to upgrade from your C2Ds? Personally I'm waiting for a good, cheap 6+ core chip. Hoping for Zen.

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>get old pentium d machine
>add more ram and storage
>has some fuckhuge acer cpu cooler on it so i oc it by like 500mhz
>STILL cant handle firefox
>even orange box games struggle
>buy a C2 quad for 20 bucks free postage
>same socket as the pentium
>can still oc it since the huge acer cooler is more than enough
pic related my epicc gaymnig rig

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>>58377812

>Not gaming/programming/rendering because genetically neurotypical human beings have no business doing that

>>58377847
>People use phones for that grandpa

Phone ergonomics permanently a shit. Phone screens tiny. Only phone virtue is portability.

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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fHa10EbyKTk

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HjXbAPXf_Vo

Don't buy AYYMD junk

Apollo Lake DESTROYS AYYMD AM1 garbage and has 8K HEVC Main10 hardware decoding & 4K VP9 hardware decoding

>>58386746
What did he mean by this?

Zen will be great, can't wait. My C2D can't run any gaymen past 2012.

>>58386746
Your mindless shilling and useless fud has no effect here!

>>58386850
STAY MAD, AYYMDPOORFAGS

Benchmarks show the bitter truth, AM1 garbage gets CRUSHED by Apollo Lake's superior CPU core, GPU and hardware decoder

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>>58381714
Best build.

>>58377614
Obsolete, g3900 exists. Overclocks to 4.5 on air.

>>58385251
Nigga, I have one and it's getting around 65° (idle) on stock cooler with new thermal paste. It's sit.

>>58388031
Maybe try liquid nitrogen?

>>58388060
I'll try the trash. Thanks god my i5 mobo is on the way

>>58386720
I need moar baites!

Has anyone in here tried to mod the lga 775 to lga 771 and put in a xeon? Is the performance gain from c2d/c2q worth it?

>>58390365
Performance would be exactly the same as the equivalent Duo/Quad (i.e. an X3360 will perform identically to a Q9550.) The only reason why people do the mods is price - Xeon's are typically cheaper for some reason.

>>58390944
>xeon x3360 on ebay £30 to £38
>xeon x3363 on ebay £21 to £42
>Q9550 on ebay £28 to £44
I guess the gap is more wide in newer models like X5650 for ~£50 or e5-2xxx v4 for £150+ to i7-5th gen £250+

>>58391416
Yeah. You can get an X5680 for less than $150, but a 980X will set you back at least $200. I imagine it was the same with the X3360 and Q9550 a few years ago.

>>58382541
They have Snow Leopard.

I was thinking of trying to install Win10 or 8.1 on it. If it doesn't work, I might just force a firmware upgrade to UEFI (from EFI 1.x) and install a 64-bit OS that supports this CPU. THat could be Maverick, maybe, or with some hacks it could be higher.

Or I might install them both and have them choose.

A linux distro wouldn't help them since they are too PC illiterate to use it.

>>58390365

Yea I upgraded from my Q6600 @ 3.2Ghz (as high as it would go) to an X5450 @ 4.1Ghz (would go higher but I cant keep it cool).

The X5450 cost me £10. Benchmarks like a stock i5-2500k!

>>58391472
Nice, great bargin!
>>58391440
Well I might consider going 2nd hand and xeon e-something build in the future then.
For now the i5-4670k and gtx 770 suites me fine.

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>>58388031

You're doing it wrong then. I took this screenshot with VirtualBox running a CentOS 6 VM, Firefox running with a shitload of tabs open, and Winamp playing tunes. Oddly the only time I get over 65-70C is in the summers 'cause my home office is a corner of the garage and temps outchea in Phoenix can hit 115F+ easily and I have nothing but a shitty portable swamp cooler out there.

>>58377614
>I pity the poor fool who truly believes these are obsolete.
What's that got to do with anything? I went straight from a Pentium 4 to an i5 2500k.

>>58377614

an ivy bridge i3 is like $25 and completely shits on your ancient hot pile of shit.

>>58386823
my e7600 ran fallout 4 at 3.6 ghz

>>58377847
>rendering on a phone
Maybe stickman art

>>58377614
i encode chink cartoons bd.
i can say they are obsolete.

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My main PC, using it for League, web browsing and light programming for school.

You're damn right! Still bring my old Dell Latitude e6400 with Xubuntu to university for presentations and taking notes etc. Office/Firefox runs great even on 2GB of Ram and the keyboard is just comfy as fuck.

>>58377649
>Have an i7 on home desktop
>Have a core2duo on my laptop
>You can have both
>laptops are not for gaymen
>core2duo handles all tasks I throw at it

>>58377614
I;m on a Core 2 Quad and it's great. I can play modern games with it too

core 2 quads are hardly obsolete, i've got two i'm gonna sell soon.

>>58392287
How hot is your summer? Here the average temp is ~24°C.

>>58393558
Tis but the truth. The only thing is, I use my T7100 1.8Ghz C2D with a 128mb Nvoodia 8400GT to play simple, light games, like L4D2, Counterstrike Source, and AoE II HD.
>It can handle much more than you think

>>58395639
No it can't

>>58377649
>They're fine for grandma's emailing machine though.
I gave one of my old thinkpads (T61, so core 2 duo) to my mom. She runs like a 100 tabs open in the web browser and routinely complains about how slow the computer is.

I don't really blame the thinkpad, and I keep telling her to use bookmarks to save websites like any sane person, but also modern browsers are such bloat it really does make me think twice.

>>58377614
I'm still using a pentium, faggots.
(Pentium P6100 2GHZ, 3MB cache)

>>58382716
>4GB of RAM
>Windows 7
>4.3
Even Windows thinks you are an idiot.

>>58388101
>i5 mobo
Bait

>>58396764
He meant a mobo for his i5. Do you have autism or what?

>>58396545
Got $50 to burn? This may make a difference: http://www.ebay.com/itm/262579022247
Or just get a laptop with a newer architecture.

>>58377614
obsolete is just a word the jews use so they can sell idiots new things that they dont really need.

>>58391472
usually the thing with these cheap cpus on ebay is that the motherboards are always over $100

>>58397602
Yes, but sometimes, you're lucky enough to have a board that works with them. For example, I believe server 1366 CPU's work just fine in most desktop 1366 boards. I imagine it's not so easy anymore.

dont most libraries and business still use C2D + Win 7?

>>58397690
I don't know about most, but I would say many.

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>>58377614
If I had one I wouldn't upgrade but I missed out on the whole core_blank cpu's having nursed a pentium 4 until it just got silly. Ended up getting an i3-4360 and probably won't upgrade that in much the same way.

>>58395363

in the summer it can hit 46.11C for weeks on end and peak around 48.9C