/fbsdaout/ - Friendly BSD and other Unixes Thread

post your BSD machines

>>58375298
Why is BSD far behind Linux in terms of development?

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>>58375298
kys

>Unixes
It's pronounced unices.

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I'm installing FreeBSD right now

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>>58375338
Is this the workspace thread?

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Consider trying out one of these nice distibutions of GNU and/or the Linux kernel
> GuixSD
> NixOS
> Gentoo
> Funtoo
> Exherbo
> Slackware
> CRUX
> Void
> Devuan
> Debian GNU/kFreeBSD
or these fine Unices
> FreeBSD
> OpenBSD
> NetBSD
> DragonFlyBSD
> PacBSD
> MINIX 3
> illumos (a fork of OpenSolaris)
and remember to keep an open mind.

>>58375435
this is a lot better than the fat kike you had in that place previously. now you need some anime and you will truly be a good poster.

>>58375298
What's a good alternative to compton?
It makes my screen all blue

>>58375435
Holy fuck that theme looks turbo autistic

>>58375515
kwin

>>58375520
>turbo autistic
sorry I couldn't have arc-dark with some faggoty numix icons

i am currently planning on getting rid of the FSF
I have a feeling they're head kike will be gone by the end of the month

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>>58375338

>>58375611
Is that on a laptop?
do your speakers work?

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>>58375623
it's an x220 and yes, why wouldn't they?

>>58375611
i3 blocks?

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Unix thread?

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>>58375720
nope, just regular i3status with a custom script for mpd status, volume and temp

>>58375767
mind sharing it?

>>58375767
how can I get my volume keys working with i3? it had something to do with amixer on Lincux, what should I do on FreeBSD?

>>58375692
only my headphone jacks will play sound, the speaker on the pc and the headphone jack on the dock don't give a peep
Everything I found online says they should be in perfect working order

So, maybe someone here can help me with this.
I installed FreeBSD 11.0 in my little laptop, and the wireless driver isn't listed by ifconfig -a, though dmesg does show the driver (ath) load at boot.
This was not a problem with 10.3 where the interface was readily available.
Any ideas as to why this happens?

>>58375721
what model?

>>58375866
When you install, config the wifi there
otherwise There's jack shit to help you online, because everything is for 10.3

>>58375767
put these in your ~/bin directory (or where you keep your scripts) and make them executable
my3status:

#!/bin/sh
# shell script to prepend i3status with more stuff

i3status | while :
do
        read line
        echo "`muscript` VOL: `getvol` | TEMP: `gettemp` | $line" || exit 1
done

muscript:

#!/bin/bash

current=$(mpc current)

if [ "$current" == "" ]
then
    exit
fi

state=$(mpc status | grep -o paused)
#[[ "$state" == "paused" ]] && echo -n "▮▮  "
[[ "$state" == "paused" ]] && echo -n "[paused] "

#state=$(mpc status | grep -o playing)
#[[ "$state" == "playing" ]] && echo -n "▶  "

echo -n $current
echo -n "  "
echo -n "[$(mpc | awk '/\[(playing|paused)\]/ { print $3 }')] |"

getvol:

#!/bin/sh
mixer vol | cut -d':' -f2

gettemp:

#!/bin/sh
sysctl hw.acpi.thermal.tz0.temperature | awk '{print $2}'

and put myi3status instead of i3status in your config

>>58375971
meant to reply to >>58375820

>>58375902
fuck.
I think that the installer didn't find the wireless driver either, now that I remember.
Anyway, I'll try building a kernel, though it probably won't help.

>>58375845

# media keys
bindsym XF86AudioRaiseVolume exec "mixer vol +2"
bindsym XF86AudioLowerVolume exec "mixer vol -2"

I haven't figured out how to make mute work as it should yet (there's no command for mute apparently and I probably need to write a script or something)

>>58375866
>>58376033
I noticed you have a wireless card, which is something that was made in the last 15 years. Simply throw it out, along with your router, so that you don't have a need for it anymore. you see, if you use wireless, you own a laptop, and therefore cannot fit into our autistic secret club. wireless implies you have a laptop and laptop ownership means you leave the house, which does not fit into this historic autistic 1995 time we want to stick in.

You also have to go to wherever it is you were going, and throw out the entire place as well, so that there is no need for a laptop. Hard task but it's an easy price to pay for having a pure os with no needs/drivers/software/anything also im better than u

>>58376072
>>58375971
thanks. i don't really care about mute anyway.

>>58376100
>wireless implies you have a laptop and laptop ownership means you leave the house, which does not fit into this historic autistic 1995 time we want to stick in.
um... no? i just like to watch anime while in bed and i dont own a tablet

Hi,

I have lenovo's x240. Any profits of switching to BDS* ?

Also potential problems of using it?

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>>58376100
but what about thinkpads?

>>58376134
bsd doesn't even have a movie player because videos are unpure

>o but u could get a gpl one!
then when you post the same thing the contrarian switch will be flipped and they will post your system is insecure

>>58376273
Hm let's see

>video driver won't work
>wireless won't work
>browsers are 10 years old
>no movie player
>no printers no usb no nothing

Potential problems:
>Be 110% unable to work with anyone in person or remotely
>You will quit your job and stay inside complaining that there's too much software and "PC's nowadays" are too good
>You will kill yourself in 15 years

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>>58375348
RMS convinced them to open source.
They didn't copyleft

>>58376100
kys
Everything works if you actually know anything about computers

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>>58376406
>>58376406
what are you on about

>>58376517
I meant you too >>58376444

>>58376517
>>58376530
mpv and vlc are ports and do not count based on the highly vocal bsd luserbase insisting that using such software makes bsd "insecure" or a higher "attack surface" which is a by-phrase meaning "I'm better than you"

as I said here
>>58376406
When BSD user posts trying to "convert" everyone: Oh you can use mpv and vlc!
When BSD user sees another BSD user that he's converted: lolports are insecure

Serious question: is there any reason at all to choose a unix distro over a linux distro or the other way around, or is there no reason at all and is it better to compare individual linux/unix distros with eachother, disregarding which family they belong to?

Can I expect most things I have on Gentoo from FreeBSD? My hardware is compatible, I remember trying it a while ago.

Hi, everyone. This might be a stupid question, but, which BSD image has the most driver support out of the box?

>>58377082
FreeBSD 11.0

>>58376694
>using mpv is insecure
As part of that userbase, never have I heard anyone say such a thing.
Take your bullshit someplace else.

>>58375866
You're attempting to install a niche OS into the wrong niche.

>>58376745
There are Unix certified Linux distros. BSDs are not unices

>>58376745
compare individual distros with each other
there really shouldn't be too much of a distinction between GNU/Linux and *BSD beyond the license autism
That's why i suggested a unified /fgut/ in the /fglt/ thread

>>58375866
do you have wlans_ath0="wlan0" in /etc/rc.conf?

>>58376745
yeah just try stuff out and keep an open mind don't be like these 12 year olds who found out about ubuntu and now pretend everything else is shit because they can't tell grep apart from sed

wtf I love fbsd now

>>58379053
no you don't

Should I switch to OpenBSD from FreeBSD?

>>58381751
No.

>>58382903
why? it seems comfier

Why is MacOS left off of that chart?

Whatever happened to PC-BSD? I remember using it some years back and it was pretty fun.

>>58383574
It's called trueos now

Looking for a debian-based Live iso that includes multimedia codecs + VLC pre-installed. What does /g/ recommend?

Mint has discontinued this (after 17? i think).

netbsd is nice but having to edit every makefile when you compile third party shit is annoying

third party libraries tend to sit in /usr/pkg

>>58383567
Unices and BasedSDs are for right wingers only

>>58384231
>lincux
>>>/r/ebbit

>>58385871
>no right wingers in macOS
Nice try, Hillary

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This thread needs more mac

>>58375298
That chart is suspicious considering the amount of installs these days of NetBSD rumpkernels in containers it's like a mini userland OS you can run with no privs, heavily being used in research along with libOS right now.

>>58386082
Are you a right winger using macOS? I don't believe you.

>>58386275
I will be, because I'll buy either an iMac or a Mac Mini to replace my crawling, old computer

>>58386659
And how exactly are you right wing? I don't think you are to be honest

>>58376758
bump

>>58375611
>Gorgoroth
Cool taste.

>>58386900
the ports system is similar i guess

look up your software on freshports

>>58386939
is that sort of like an overlay?

>>58386965
the ports system is concepetually much more simpler than portage

it has nothing like overlays, i think

>>58381751
Depends on why you're switching.

>>58386971
i remember having to configure most packages mid-compile, i mean having to wait for a dependency to compile before configuring the next package. is there a way to do this beforehand?

>>58387028
make config-recursive does it i believe

you need to run it until it stops asking for stuff

else you can just set BATCH to YES to accept the defaults

>>58375298
Gentoo user here who's getting more and more pissed off by Linux and wants out

What's a good BSD to start with? I know FreeBSD is pretty close to Gentoo historically, is that still the best out there? Also, is Gentoo/FreeBSD still alive? I would love to continue using gentoo if possible, but with BSD userspace/libc/kernel in place of Linux.

>>58387038
>make config-recursive
yeah, that seems right.
thanks.

>>58387234
>is that still the best out there?
depends on what you like, try them all out
>Also, is Gentoo/FreeBSD still alive?
most GNU/BSD stuff seems dead
>but with BSD userspace/libc/kernel in place of Linux.
i want the reverse, a linux kernel with everything else feeling like openbsd

Can I get KDE 5 on FreeBSD?

>>58387262
>The latest releases of KDE Software -- in particular KDE Plasma 5 Desktop -- are not yet available in FreeBSD ports. However, the unofficial ports tree, area51, does have ports for KDE Frameworks 5, KDE Plasma 5, and KDE Applications. There are also unofficial packages available (see the area51 documentation for details).

If I use FreeBSD as my main OS, how difficult will it be to get Linux programs running? I assume a good number of them would just work, but what about the ones that don't? Is a full-on virtual machine the only option? (What virtualization tech does BSD even support? i.e. what is their equivalent of KVM)

What about stuff like GPU drivers? Do the nvidia proprietary drivers run on BSD?

>>58387257
>i want the reverse, a linux kernel with everything else feeling like openbsd
Funny, the Linux kernel is exactly why I want out; it sucks at pretty much everything it does from memory management to process scheduling to networking to filesystems to caching to crypto

It seems like Linux can get nothing right, and the high focus of enterprise markets on the Linux ecosystem is my explanation for why, I guess.

>>58387301
According to https://svnweb.freebsd.org/ports/head/x11/nvidia-driver/pkg-descr?view=markup it seems they're packaged. No idea if they work well, but I guess that's better than nothing.

>>58387301
just run a linux jail with bhyve

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>>58386087
here's mine

>>58387366
Use an anime image next time

>>58387344
bhyve is a hypervisor, similar to KVM. Jails are containers.

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is FreeBSD suitable for watching anime?

>>58387583
I think mpv runs on FreeBSD?

>>58387656
yeah, but is it an anime OS?

>>58387301
>how difficult will it be to get Linux programs running?
The Linux compatibility layer will run anything 32bit for Linux 2.6.32 or older.

post your make.conf

>>58386699
I unironically hate niggers and some muslims, not to the point where I directly harass them, but I try avoiding talking to them if possible.

I know a turkish guy, who's pretty cool though. The main thing I dislike about muslims is, well, their religion, but I'm not fond of the rest of the abrahamitic religions either.

tl;dr: someone's gonna reply to this with
>>>/pol/
>t. mactoddler

>>58387583
see >>58376517

>>58375611
>Gorgoroth
Top tier taste there

>>58388685
I have to add that I think communists/socialists and Nazis are degenerates who have only proven that they make the world a worse place

>>58388685
I don't think you know what right wing means.
are you at least a monarchist? or are you socialist scum?
>>58388735
oh, if that's the case then you might indeed be right wing.

How are BSDs and BSD devs holding up against pötteringd?

>>58388812
way better than i expected to be honest

>>58388705
that's good

>>58388748
Since my home country was a monarchy long ago, I'd like to see it unite again.
So I'm pretty much moving the general direction of monarchism

>>58389005
I'm an absolutist anarcho-monarchist myself. Though pretty much any kind of monarch or legitimately right wing dictatorship is preferable to the status quo

>>58386275
eventually in the next year or 2 when I buy a macbook to replace my x series memepad
It's the only laptop with a 16:10 screen

Is it true that KVM doesn't work on BSD?

>>58386972
for the memes
and browsing openbsd.org in w3m

>>58389294
>It's the only laptop with a 16:10 screen
in a year or two that might change. consider buying a right wing laptop and installing BasedSD on it instead.

>>58389296
>It was merged into the Linux kernel mainline in kernel version 2.6.20
hm i wonder

>>58389375
>in a year or two that might change
ahahahahahahahahahahahahahah
anyway, i'm running FreeBSD on a laptop built buy the most right wing communist country ever, so i guess that's close enough

>>58389400
So no?

>>58386275
I would be considered right wing by some and still use macOS. It's a product, not an ideology.

>>58389616
>I would be considered right wing by some
By whom and for what reasons? I hope you realize that this isn't the same as the phrase "I am right wing"

>>58389635
I do realize that, I'm apparently right wing because I dislike pakis, I think Hillary would have been much worse but still don't consider Bernie as a good alternative, I consider a great percentage of the black population in the united states to be just outright dumber, I think women are not superior than men and should get the same treatment under the law, I think transtrenderism is an actual mental illness and should get the right treatment instead of encouraging it, I think that political correctness is cancer and I think that there's no need for diversity in the workplace.

For these things I'm considered right wing by random people, or a select few people I know IRL.

Again in any case I don't see what using macOS has to do with it.

>>58389798
>I dislike pakis
that's just any sane person, i am pretty sure even the likes of Indian communists dislike those animals as well.
Nothing you have mentioned has anything to do with being right wing.
>still don't consider B*rnie as a good alternative
If you don't outright wish his death you can't possibly be right wing.
I agree with most things you've said though.
>Again in any case I don't see what using macOS has to do with it.
It's made by a company known for actively promoting the things you have described in your post. And it's pretty much an extension of the US government which I think we can both agree is counter to anything even remotely right wing.
If you want to buy it at least do so via non-Apple means so you don't have to give them any of your money.

>>58389968
Well, I actually use hackintosh. All money I spent on Apple was one of those used magic trackpads for 50 bucks.

All the people recommending FreeBSD in this thread, do you know about its horrible security history? https://vez.mrsk.me/freebsd-defaults.txt

>>58386971
I think `portshaker` does this but I've not used it myself.

>>58387028
What >>58387038 said but I use `portmaster` myself.

>>58389296
Which kvm on which BSD? As far as I know Solaris and FreeBSD have had pretty standard kvms for a while now, I'm not familiar with other ones.

>>58390285
>hackintosh
Is dual booting a pain in the ass? I think I might try it out if that isn't the case.

>>58390638
It's not too hard, just that you need to install OSX first and the process is a bit weird on GPT.

>>58386939
>>58386971
>>58387028
>>58387301
>>58387583
>>58387656
>>58387919
>>58390456
you can't use ports or anything on BSD because then you won't be admitted into the BSD secret IRC club circlejerk, which is the entire point of pretending to use it. ports make BSD insecure, or something like that, because it increases the attack surface by giving the OS a reason for existing. You have to stick with what the OS comes with which is nothing and keep that nothing forever or else you aren't a true bsd user.

I've already let the IRC pros know that they should be expecting a massive influx of new "BSD users" and we have already implemented autobanning if you say the word ports.

>>58390849
baited for this exact response

>>58390710
>install OSX first
is that the only way? I guess i'll try it in a VM first then

>>58390948
Far as I know, yeah. You'd need to create a new partition table and both partitions (macOS/Windows) from the macOS installer.

Besides, you need a VM to create the USB drive with the macOS installer. It's a bit of a pain but if your PC is compatible it's a pretty good system.

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>>58386275
I'm right wing and I use mac.

>>58391032
love of country isn't right wing

>>58391074
Yes it is.

>>58390948
Not that Anon but I did exactly that with virtualbox and then later again with vmware, both worked fine to create the install files drive, I put the special bootloader on another drive and it all installed fine, you just have to pass through the devices to the vm.

I need to try again and see if audio works with my hardware yet, everything else was stable and smooth but no audio is a big deal.

>>58390849
>you can't use ports or anything on BSD because then you won't be admitted into the BSD secret IRC club circlejerk, which is the entire point of pretending to use it. ports make BSD insecure, or something like that, because it increases the attack surface by giving the OS a reason for existing. You have to stick with what the OS comes with which is nothing and keep that nothing forever or else you aren't a true bsd user.
It's fine, I've decided to use Gentoo/FreeBSD, portage is vastly superior to that pile of junk

>>58391930
what's a good way to convert dmg to iso?

>>58391784
what shithole do you live in?

>>58392396
Flanders / Belgium.

>>58392396
that's pretty clear by the emblem if you aren't retarded that is

>>58390382
No, we don't even use FreeBSD. We pretend to use it so we can fit in

>>58375361
I prefer Unixes.

If you think ports makes OpenBSD insecure you're an idiot. Check out the secuity advisories for the distro with most vulnerability reports last year: https://www.debian.org/security/2016/

Most of that shit either doesn't exist in ports (for a reason), or is already shipped in base. Aside from firefox, you have nothing to worry about. If you are deploying a system for some specific service not in base, then you should feel responsible for configuring.

OpenBSD is a secure UNIX OS, and if you think it isn't useful by default you are clueless.

>>58392709
If you get owned running OpenBSD with ports you're not doing infosec correctly.

>>58392709
>>58392721
>seriously replying to that fucking autist
i'm starting to think he just replies to himself by now

>>58391952
>Gentoo/FreeBSD
Does it have a non-leftist userland?

>>58390849
>a reason for existing
BSD existed LONG before GNU and Linux, predating actually most software that exists today. a lot of the original hackers still work on the kernel.

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Install Linux if you want spics and sandniggers in your country, cucks. Install BSD if you want a white tomorrow.

>>58392524
oh, so you have no country to love
sorry m8

>>58392729
The thread ip counter didn't go up so it's the most likely thing. There's another obvious tell as well.

>>58393465
wasn't him i just added to my post

what's the equivalent of the lincux tty's Shift + Page up in FreeBSD?

>>58394225
To scroll up? shift+page up should work the same, you can also disable scroll lock on your keyboard and use the arrow keys or page keys.

>>58394308
>To scroll up?
Yeah, it doesn't work and just prints a ~ to the screen

>>58392984
this is not an accomplishment or even positive thing when it is still behind, it shows the poor attitude and mismanagement of the project, first 10 years can essentially be summed up as "muh nomenclature". can't even get the name right.

shut the fuck up

>>58394225
ScrLk then PgUp or the arrow keys

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>not using a real unix OS
>not using a truly free-as-in-dowhatever-you-want license
GNU cucks everyone

>>58394516
everybody in this thread already does those you stupid anime poster

ive been using nixos for the past couple days

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>>58394546
nah, there's a couple of GNU cucks here.

>>58394387
it's only "still behind" by your retarded standards.

you avoid admitting you're wrong about ports being shit.

also it's no secret club. you must be incredibly retarded or incompetent to not understand OpenBSD ports team is very open and encourages new attendants.

bsd and their stack built internet idiot. all those other shithole networks are history. bsd is unapologetically unix, but modern. if that doesn't work for you fine, but stop trolling and go host your long list of highly secure services which bsd apparently lacks.

>>58375455
>bsd thread
>anon recommends guix, an official gnu thing
>no shitpost replies
I'm impressed with this thread's friendliness. Keep it up.

>>58394546
>not being an anime poster
Remove yourself from the premises
>>58394621
oops.
>>58375455
>GuixSD
>Debian GNU/*
>>>/trash/

>>58394639
Jinxed it.

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Bsd is fine
linux is fine
windows bad
mac greedy sjw

Stop fighting eachother and fight the real cancer please.

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>>58394649
Lincux is cuckold communist trash though.
>fight the real cancer please.
but i'm already fighting G*U

>>58394687
You will never find love.

>>58394776
Why do you think so?

>>58387366
>2GHZ i7

Which is the correct one?
1) Wangblows > OS X
2) Wangblows < OS X

>>58389296
No, no it doesn't. bhyve does though, which is essentially the same thing from a user's perspective>>58389372

Linux is cuckold communist trash. BSD is not cucked and is pro white and not controlled by kikes.

>>58395468
Jesus said "I will rebuild this temple in three days." I could make a compiler in 3 days.

>>58395731
terry?

>>58395731
Do you actually have job Terry? or do you just kill CIA niggers?

>>58395844
I have God's official endorsement. I win and the CIA/FBI niggers lose. Just wait.

>>58376300
could you post the original wallpaper?

>>58375298
>FreeBSD igb driver supports checksum offloading
>OpenBSD em driver doesn't for my hardware because some faggot decided to lump it in with a NIC that had a bug
Is it easy to port a driver from FreeBSD to OpenBSD?

Would I be able to play dwarf fortres and rigg US elections on OpenBSD?
Would I be able to run VritualBox on OpenBSD?
Should I really?

>>58396189
just do without the device that needs the driver

>>58396265
>remove 3 NICs from my APU
Brah.

>>58396256
>dwarf fortress
why would you want to play such a closed source game
>rigg US elections
that can only be done using ReactOS
>VirtualBox
why would you need to run any other OS?

>>58396367
>why would you want to play such a closed source game
Cause it is fugging funny.
>that can only be done using ReactOS
No, I am russian, I know better.
>why would you need to run any other OS?
>other OS
>implying

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What anime should I watch on my soon to be installed FreeBSD?

>>58396256
>>58396437
>rigging us elections
teach me senpai

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>>58396807
Girlish Number

>>58396437
>>58396367
>>58396256
As I've said many times

>I have a need
>>Well, I don't have that need. So we have to throw your need out.

/bsd/ = /throwitout/

>>58396807
the cute one

installing freebsd right now

>>58397997
<3

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>>58375455
>no Source Mage

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>no bsd will run wolfenstein et 2.60b

why
even
bother

>>58398544
>no bsd will run wolfenstein et 2.60b
why is that

>>58375298
BSD IS FUCKING TRASH!

LINUX MASTER RACE!

>>58399522
nice one

>>58399570
You're only butthurt cus you know he's right :^)

>>58399522
linux is a kernel, retard

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>>58399522
No.

If you want fun/experimental operating systems, use Haiku or Plan 9.

If you want stable Unix, use BSD.

If you want user-friendly, use macOS.

There is literally no reason to use Linux or Windows. They're just pleb filters.

>>58399522
bazinga

>>58401491
nice argument faggot

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>>58401518
but that's all correct
Its a legit argument.

What a shitty thread

>>58401916
Why? :(

i wish TrueOS wasn't such a tryhard attempt at a Red Hat/SUSE competitor

what a nice thread

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>mfw installing freebsd rn

>>58401916
what a shitty post

this is the most /g/ thread in all of /g/ right now
we should have more threads like this

I would use BSD but it lacks online resources to a notable degree. Probably because people ditched BSD, furthermore the ego driven butthurt "community" nailed the coffin of *BSD (specially OpenBSD) permanently.

However I would welcome a GPU thread over a *BSD thread any day but buttmad ex-Linux hipsters will ruin the whole purpose of the thread.

See this one: >>58402508 Try so hard to defend his shitty thread. Now unless you try acting like a tryhard faggot we can have a nice thread on UNIX hereby.

>>58402571
>lacks online resources
what part of the freebsd handbook lacks online resources

>gpu thread
which gpu thread have you been in that hasn't turned into useless /v/ chat

really you should just fuck off since your post is contributing nothing.

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>>58402492
>mfw installing Gentoo/FreeBSD rn

>>58392994
wow anime epic made me think clap clap

>>58402630
>what part of the freebsd handbook lacks online resources
Part where behyve lists upto date GPU passthrough compatible hardware list

>Contribute nothing
Just like BSD fags

>>58403209
>Just like BSD fags
openssh just popped out of thin air then

>>58403213
Ah here it comes. Is that the only thing you can name? Can you say something from the current century?

>>58403222
lol you have literally no argument

how about the tcp/ip stacks, how about pf

>>58403232
>This century
>tcp/ip stacks
haha keep trying

>>58402571
>no resources
Let's assume that's true.

What type of resources do you even need you fucking idiot?

This is how I started using FreeBSD:
> download iso; dd to usb stick; boot usb stick
> install freebsd (if you ever installed debian, you should have no problems with this; the installer guides you through the whole process)
> boot
> look up freebsd package management on phone
> see some pages mentioning some pkg tool
> run $ man pkg
> see the syntax is pretty much the same as with most linux package managers
> type $ pkg search [stuff I need]
> find stuff I need
> type $ pkg install vim htop xorg i3 rxvt-unicode mpv feh firefox
> make .xinitrc file
> run startx
> continue using it like any other linux distro with no issues whatsoever
> never looked up any "resources" besides the pkg man page

>>58403372
>What type of resources do you even need you fucking idiot?
How about you read the rest of the thread you fucking mentally disabled spaz?

>>58403381
Forgot to mention, FreeBSD uses OSS, but a 5 second google search will point you towards a tool called mixer, run man mixer and do this >>58376072

I have read the rest of the thread, I've been posting since the beginning.
What exactly do you think I should read?

>>58376072
i don't know, but it seems like mixer vol 0 would work, no?

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>>58403424

And why the fuck are you bringing up YOUR issue?

>>58403209
>behyve

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i like this thread. it's very anime-like

>>58392826
Wtf is a non-leftist userland

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>>58403479
he's a fucking abo lmao

>>58403437
Yeah but then you need to raise volume yourself

>>58403459
Why not start a thread in the official forum and ask them?

>>58403512
>Why not start a thread in the official forum and ask them?
Took you a while to admit the fact that no resources are available for something as trivial as this.

I'm sure some autist has a list ready for me in the official forum oh wait my wifi doesn't even work on freebsd

>>58403504
Anything non-G*U.

>>58403512
>>58403424
>>58403437
>>58376072
that's not OSS, it's the generic driver

>>58403528
Oh, so you are a pleb who doesn't write his own drivers? You can fuck off back to rebbit for all I care.

>>58403554
pls don't troll in my thread

>>58401491
What if you want games?Then Windows is your only option.

>>58403554
>mom I lost an argument
>don't worry son, tell him to go to rebbit and retain your online e-peeen

I like how quickly a typical bsdbabby runs out of proper arguments


Enjoy your ""((thread))""

>>58403574
This thread is for non-plebs only. You can leave now, kid.

>>58403585
>>58403574
>>58403554
>>58403566
kek, never change /g/,i love you the way you are <3

>>58403574
That's not me you fucking imbecile

>>58403568
Have a dedicated gaming PC or dual boot when you want to play some games. It doesn't have to be your main OS.

>>58403597
<3

>>58403598
she isn't capable of understanding that, they usually have names on her website

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>>58401518

>>58375611
wallpaper?

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>>58404055

Reminder than BSD is a cuck license that allows corporations to take your code, fuck the shit out of it, close it, and sell it back to you.

Stick to GPL folks.

>>58404573
reminder that this thread is a discussion about operating systems and not licenses

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>>58404581
Reminder that *BSD based operating systems are licensed under the BSD license and thus it makes you a literal cuckold to use them.

>>58404603
reminder that you spent 3 years posting the same stale baits here over and over

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>>58404616
Reminder that 4chan is composed of hundreds of people and that I just downloaded that image last week.

lol no you didn't

ur in denial xD

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Linux is cuckold communist trash. BSD is not cucked and is pro white and not controlled by kikes.

>>58404603
seems like you don't understand what "cuckold" means. i cuck the people who made it (i re-licensed my own installation of FreeBSD), which means i am the one doing the cucking.

>>58375721
macfags are always desperate for attention

>Stick to (((GPL)))
I don't open-source anything. Open-sourcing is by nature getting cucked.

>>58376745
Unix tends to be more stable and has better documented code. Linux tends to have more up to date features and compatibility. All depends on what you're looking for.

>>58375435
That is one of the ugliest desktops I ever seen. At least put some effort and get a decent WM and color scheme.

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Should I go for Gentoo/FreeBSD or FreeBSD?
I'm mainly a gentoo user.

>>58405640
Just OpenBSD unless you like broken shit.

>>58404603
My god when will this meme end.
Fucking educate yourselves https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/BSD_licenses.

>they're stealing your code
Nobody is stealing anything.
In whatever form they redistribute your software, be it source or just binary, they have to give you credit and cannot give any credit to themselves whatsoever without your permission.

>companies can redistribute your software only in binary form and never give you anything back
Why the fuck would they even do that?
I mean they can, but either way they can still sell your software and not share any of their profits with you (the same applies to GPL software).
Keeping a project open source does not diminish their profits usually because they will sell your software as part of something larger.
Apple integrates their open source Darwin OS with OS X and iOS which are selled together with computers and phones.
Android and much of Google's software is open source, but they don't profit directly from that.
Red Hat can still sell, even if the OS is almost completely open source.
They can also keep a project open source and after some time stop publishing the source code and then after some time sell it.

>why is it not in their best interest to distribute only binaries all the time?
Who do they have to call if something goes wrong? You.
By refusing to share the source code they're just both your and their project.
Why? Because you may accept their patches in the upstream or just implement some of those ideas in your own way if it's beneficial to your project and they can then expand on that and so on.
There doesn't have to be much collaboration in order to make this a healthy relationship, but there needs to be some.

>>58405467
Functionality is more important than looks.

>>58406121
i don't think it will. good thing it's just that, a meme

>>58406137
>functionality
>bar at the top
>huge bar at the bottom with more wasted space than used space
???

>>58406121
finally someone explains it right

>>58406224
Did you get lost, gnupleb?

>>58406224
>Google Play Music
did you get lost, corporate slave cuck?

>>58404603
>proprietary software is bad
>except when it's GPL'd
I will never understand this logic.

>>58406510
*open source

GPL is as good as proprietary, it's copyrighted, restrictive via terms, and you can get sued for using it wrong. It's all the problems of proprietary with no obvious benefit.

>>58406531
Meant for >>58406517

>>58406531
there's this certain peace of mind when you use a BSD-style licensed library for example

i know that all i need to do is actually credit whoever made the stuff

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(((GPL))) is straight up trash

>>58406558
When I was first starting out writing and contributing to open source software, I was always concerned that I'd make some big mistake because I am not a lawyer, it was much easier to contribute to MIT and BSD projects as well as use them because of the simple license.

does the MIT license trigger G*U cucks as much as the Based Software Distribution one?

>>58406678
isn't the MIT license a simplified BSD license pretty much

>>58375721
macBSD is best BSD

>>58377227
Technically it would be either trueOS or Freebsd-12-CURRENT

>>58406531
I can freely modify GPL and the license protects my code from companies taking it, closing it, and selling it.

It's nothing like proprietary.

$0.01 cents has been deposited into your account pajeet!

>>58406699
>and selling it.
Wrong, nothing prevents people from selling GPL'd software.

>>58406699
>the license protects my code
lmao
post your GPL'd code here if you aren't afraid.
I'm not a company but I will take it, close it, and sell it.

>>58406699
Daily reminder that the Busybox devs got nothing but butthurt from the lawsuits that were related to it. The jew lawyers got a bunch of money and televisions out of it.

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>>58406699
>implying a gnu cuck actually writes any code

>>58406699

pls read this post here >>58406121

>>58406732
>No other developers, including original author Bruce Perens and long time maintainer Dave Cinege, were represented in these actions or party to the settlements. On December 15, 2009, Perens released a statement expressing his unhappiness with some aspects of the legal situation, and in particular alleged that the current BusyBox developers "appear to have removed some of the copyright statements of other Busybox developers, and appear to have altered license statements"
Holy shit I didn't even know about that. Lawyers suing on their behalf and getting all that money while the devs get all the flak, that's fucked up. Not surprising though since GPL advocates seem to care more about law and social politics than they do software, not to mention money.

>>58406732
>>58406798
is this why that one guy split from the project and made a BSD licensed alternative?

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>>58406798
Call a nigger a nigger, the FSF are just a bunch of jews.

>>58406829
richard stallman literally IS a jew

>>58406510
>>58406844
Stallman is only fed and housed because of proprietary software companies paying him. Obviously GNU is just a rip off of a proprietary product too (Unix). Bunch of thieves and hypocrites.
https://a.uguu.se/g5fN4436txcv_RMSsponsoredbyproprietarysoftware.webm

@58406933
fuck off with your leftist bullshit, this is exclusively a right wing thread.

>>58406822
>In January 2012 the proposal of creating a BSD licensed alternative to the GPL licensed BusyBox project drew harsh criticism from Matthew Garrett for taking away the only relevant tool for copyright enforcement of the Software Freedom Conservancy group.[42] The starter of BusyBox based lawsuits, Rob Landley, responded that this was intentional as he came to the conclusion that the lawsuits resulted not in the hoped for positive outcomes and he wanted to stop them "in whatever way I see fit".[43][44]

Literally did nothing wrong and got harassed so hard he just made a BSD version to avoid legal headaches.

>>58406999
they got mad because they had no way to sue people, is that what i'm reading

Ask a communist who runs OpenBSD anything.

why haven't you removed yourself from this world yet?

Benefits to using BSD?

>>58407411
the intellectual pleasure of using a trve Unix

>>58407411
1 - It's based
2 - It's right wing
3 - It's real Unix
also >>58401491

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Should I get an early 2009 iMac 4GB RAM with El Capitan or a mid 2010 Mac Mini 8 GB RAM with Sierra?

>>58407346
i'm more concerned about gnufags desu but linkeks are cancer too, especially the systemd loving kind.

what a fine bsd thread

what a fine Unix thread

So, I want to be on the -current branch on OpenBSD...

https://ftp.openbsd.org/pub/OpenBSD/snapshots/amd64/install60.iso

Is this the correct ISO to use? I've been using -release without applying any of the errata updates and I feel rather retarded.

Assuming I use this installation image, will I always be on -current, even after 7.0 hits -release? Will pkg_add "just work"?

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what a magnificent anime thread

>>58407720
yeah, start by installing a snapshot, THEN download the source with CVS

>>58407720
pkg_add should work, but it can't update the base system - to follow -current, you either need to occasionally binary upgrade to a newer snapshot, or maintain a copy of the source tree and build and install it manually.

>>58408413
>>58408300
From what I can gather, a binary upgrade is using the "install kernel" and using the upgrade option in the installer? So I'd have to use the latest ISO from time to time in order to upgrade, or could I boot using the install kernel to achieve the same effect?

bsd is a cuck license

bsd is white and based

>>58408906
you don't necessarily need an ISO, you can just download bsd.rd and boot from it with the bootloader

hell, you can even put it in your home directory if you want

but yeah its a binary upgrade but i'd rather keep everything in sync by downloading the source from CVS