DongleBook

>implying Apple ever went right
(except the iPod)

>>58373680
>What went wrong?
Well, for starters, you've used the wrong image. That's not the DongleBook.

Fuck you man Apple is amazing
>Oooh donglegate
Whatever faggot
I love all their products, and I love PS4 Pro, and I love Nickelback

still has a headphone jack

nothing. >85% of computers are plugged into an accessory that isn't the charger <5% of the time.

apple was this (brilliantly) and created a product to reflect this.

>>58373680
Why is that you faggots need USB-a and an SD-card reader?
Seriously in our modern days most don't even use anything other then the charging port and the audio port.

It much better to just remove the ports to get a much better form factor, then some ports that most people doesn't even use.
The only real issue is why they would remove Magsafe

It's actually, unironically, easier to count what went right.

>>58373702
and the most successful phone in existence..

>>58373729
Cock guzzling faggot found.

>>58373702
But you have to buy a computer part of what is wrong with Apple in order to not deal with the vomit that iTunes on Windows is.

>>58373680

Just dongles. Stupid fucking idea.

Everything else is great.

>>58373782

Some people have jobs.

In these jobs sometimes you have to read media that other people give you like an SD card form a camera or a USB stick, or to plug into projector to give a presentation.

Things an unemployed neet might not realize are pretty damn important.

>>58373782
I use the SD card slot on my MBP with my mirrorless camera.

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>>58373680

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>>58373729
try harder

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>sports car gate
WHAT WENT WRONG, WHY CAN'T I TRANSPORT MY ENTIRE FAMILY AND HALF A TON POTATOES WITH IT.

>>58373806
hahaha unironically its even more easier to count the black dicks in ur mother rn xdd

>>58373806
You're right, I can count what went right on a single hand. And I'm missing two fingers.

>>58375949
But sportscars have a lot of performance.

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>>58375949
Sports cars are fast and powerful, meant for racing. Like PCs. Macshit is neither of that.

>>58378082
Not him but agree. The usability you give up on an Aventador comes with a large performance benefit. But if you need to haul a lot of goods, you will get a semi truck which is not as attractive visually nor nearly as fast but can transport exponentially more goods and thus becomes more usable.

Conversely, the usability penalty you get with a Macbook also comes with a performance penalty. Whereas a high end PC can also do everything that a lower end one can do.

The two really aren't comparable or analogous in any way for this argument.

tl;dr - A great form factor means nothing if you have no utility for it, nor performance, and the Macbook isn't even a good form factor.

>>58378082
>>58378167
Which you will basically not notice unless you're on a track or live next to an Autobahn, so horsepower - CPU/GPU performance can't really be equaled, just like it'd be silly to equal range with battery life.

Try a more abstract way: Expensive product that excels a very limited amount of tasks but is subpar at everything else. For people who want maximal unity, both would be silly. For people who got specific requirements, both are perfect.

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>>58375949
>>58378167
>car comparison

>>58373680
>new Dell XPS13 does the same thing
Why do designers exist? They are a plague on engineering

>>58373680
steve jobs died

>>58378324
Outside of lacking MacOS and godly trackpad...

XPS 13 is
>bigger
>heavier
>got cancerous 16:9 (also much more reflective)
>fan noise
>worse battery life with respectable resolution

Also come on, beyond the screen it looks nowhere as good. It has other benefits like muh ports or performance. Hell, even 16:9 can be a benefit if you buy a laptop for movies only. It's almost like each has strengths and weaknesses and it depends on what the user needs.

>>58373680
I think the people complaining about laptops that aren't aimed at them are wrong.

>>58378313
macbabby brought up the car analogy not me.

>>58378234
But macbooks excel at no tasks, pcs rape them in every category. They can'teven win in the ASTHETICS department either when pcs are looking much better.

>>58373680
I only use the charing port and a type a dongle for my mouse/flash drive when i need it, nothing more than that. I have a desktop for serious work/gaming.

Its a fucking mac that's whats wrong

it's actually very forward-thinking what they did

thunderbolt 3 has a ludicrously fast data transfer rate, one port can easily handle what all of those old ports did no sweat. in the future (or even today), you could hook up things like external gpu enclosures to boost the power of your laptop.

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DongleBook owner here. 2016 base model. Got it for discounted price and I quite like it

>>58374736
Then just a dongle
It isn't like you have to use it all the time.

>>58374223
Rhythmbox can sync with an iPod just fine.

Quick question.

Why not just get USB-C accessories? Get a USB-C memory stick. What's the problem? Should we stay on old technology forever?

>>58380653
alternatively, rockbox the ipod (if you're OK with shittier battery life) and you can drag/drop songs from a file browser

>>58380659
Many things, such as DAC's, USB capture cards, , etc aren't USB-C yet, and older devices will need either a new cable for USB-C to USB-A adapter. Also many USB-C cables are gimped and cal possibly kill your device if you arent carefulk

>>58380620
Why not just implement it from the beginning then so you don't have to carry useless dongles

>>58373680
nothing

they just pushing the "whe are an inovative company" meme

>>58373680
i use it, i love it actually

>>58380689
Because most people buying one don't plan to use it with 3145 dongles. It's not like there aren't laptops for people who need ports.

Besides, if you do want to use other shit, a dongle is actually a more elegant solution since you don't have to disconnect all the cables when you want to use it as a laptop.

>>58380495
How does it feel being a sheep?

>>58374736
Haven't owned a Mac since the 90s, but what exactly can't you transfer using a network?

>>58380849
>implications
Main desktop is a custom built desktop, phone is OP3. Only reason i have the macbook is because there's no other PC thats super light, doesn't run windows 10, and has decent/modern specs

>All models have non-removable RAM and are limited to 16GB max
>All models don't even have Kaby Lake CPU's and wont for a while
>All 4-port models are gimped. Left-side ports run at full Thunderbolt 3 Speeds while the 2 right side ports are limited to half-speed for some reason
>All models have the most inconsistent battery life ever
>13" isn't even a quad core. it's all dual core i5's, even for the flagship 13"
>13" has a completely different ssd connector AGAIN, so no more M.2 mods for your MBP
>13" all have Intel HD 515 Graphics, even for the highest spec model
>15" all use Radeon Pro 450, which is shit compared to the GTX1060 and above
>15" models have the SSD soldered into the board. Good luck doing any sort of data recovery
>They have problems with apple's own USB/HDMI dongle
>the provided USB-C cable can't be used for data. It's charging-only
>doesn't even come with a USB-C to Lightning cable. you can buy a macbook and iphone on the same day and you'll never be able to sync them
>13" starting at $1500 USD
>15" starting at $2300 USD

>>58380930
correction:
only the 13" 4 port model has the slow port problem.
the 15" can vary from Radeon Pro 450-465, but thats only marginal gains for a higher price.

>>58380930
Now name better alternatives with 16:10 screen. Oh right.

>>58380991
SurfaceBook

>>58380892
m8 I was fucking with ya.
I have a Macbook myself, and will continue like that until Stallman presents an actual computer that was made for linux and only for linux.

It's got a lot of design issues that are worth discussing but a definite dealbreaker for me is the shit tier keyboard

you can't expect me to use that

>>58381025
Similar price, no modern ports, same RAM limit and lack of Kaby Lake, useless battery life in tablet mode, heavier/bigger and generally idiotic design with the hinge and so on. Also obviously Windows.

That said it's overall a pretty cool laptop that has upsides like the tablet mode and really the only alternative, but let's not act like it's superior.

>>58381095
>lack of Kaby Lake
>an isssue
you're a retard
it's literally a rebadge

>>58381116
>joining the conversation without reading previous posts
Talk about being a retarded.

>>58378357
/thread

>>58381032
I simply can't stand Win10. Main machines got win7 pro and i won't even consider any laptop and isnt running win10 as an upgrade. Until microsoft gets their shit together im not touching that pile of shit. THe laptops are very tempting, especially the Hp Spectre, but win10 is a deal breaker.

>>58381048
As an owner of one of these machines, the keyboard is tolerable but it definitely takes a bit of getting use to.

>>58381095
if it was hardware-only, surfacebook has the upper hand. It was at least released during the reign of Skylake so the CPU thing is justified.Basically you're stuck with this
Surfacebook:
>great hardware
>shit OS/Software

Macbook Pro 2016:
>Great software/OS
>Shit hardware

If someone could hackintosh the Surfacebook it'll be the ultimate mac-based machine in general.

>>58381128
Lack of Kaby Lake is not an issue in the SB, it's not an issue in the MacBook Pro, it's not an issue anywhere except in Intel's quarterly new CPU shipment figures. Enjoy your retardation.

>>58375949
Lamborghini are shit tier sportscars

>>58373680
nobody makes usb-c peripherals, yet
might seriously get a space grey macbook in a couple years though

>>58381174
I tried the SB last year and returned it because of the shitty trackpad though it has a good keyboard - I am very particular about the quality of inputs, I didn't buy an XPS 15 because of the subpar keyboard and the new MBP wants me to make even more of a compromise.

I'll stick with my 2015 MBP until it falls apart. After that, if something better doesn't come along I'll probably have to pivot to Thinkpad or SB but they both have their issues.

Hackintosh is a pain in the ass as well, tried it on my desktop - buggy as hell.

>>58381183
Lack of kaby lake isnt a big deal, but apple not waiting LITERALLY 2 more months to get laby lake has basically made the machine slightly obsolete. If you're paying 2+ grand on a machine shouldnt it be realistic to expect the absolute best hardware available?

>>58381202
SSD's, USB drives, RAID bays, eGPU's, headphones, displays and USB Hubs already exist, but everything else hasnt caught up yet.

>>58381223
>has basically made the machine slightly obsolete
I'll explain it again. Kaby Lake is identical to the previous gen, it's a rebadge. Zero advantages to getting it over the previous gen clock for clock. If anything not waiting 2 months for the same shit is foresight.

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Just tried out the keyboard for the first time earlier today. It's shit

>>58381174
> It was at least released during the reign of Skylake
That's simply down to Intels release cycles. If MS releases a refresh now it will have KB while the next Mac refresh is likely to have Cannonlake, etc, etc

>Shit hardware
That's simply not the case ignoring the models with battery issues. It's nothing special, just like SurfaceBook hardware inside is nothing special. The hardware outside is pretty damn nice on both too.

>If someone could hackintosh the Surfacebook it'll be the ultimate mac-based machine in general.
It wouldn't be that different besides it'd kill the touchscreen which is a big pro once they do something about the battery life.

>>58381183
Again, I never said it is. The post I replied to noted that it lacks KB, I pointed out how the only alternative also lacks KB. Nobody in their right mind would suggest that KB is worth it and it's not even the point.

>>58381223
>but apple not waiting LITERALLY 2 more months
It'd be longer because Apple sells fuckloads of laptops compared to the rest. Besides, while waiting longer for same shit? Apple stopped playing the idiotic muh STATS game.

>>58380685
>Many things, such as DAC's, USB capture cards, , etc aren't USB-C yet, and older devices will need either a new cable for USB-C to USB-A adapter.

So what you are saying is that the rest of the industry is slow as fuck and are not keeping up with modern technology?

>>58381246
If apple released the Macbook Pro in Summer or Spring 2016 i wouldn't complain. That was the height of Skylake (which yes, is nearly the same as Kaby Lake),

but instead they released it bascially in the winter 2016 right as Skylake was starting to get replaced essentially. for a machine in its price bracket its just nonsentical

>>58381292
>release cycles
While true, i simply can't justify that when they release it so late into skylake's life. The next macbook will probably get kaby lake in late 2017, and we should have cannonlake by then.

>hardware
It is true for its price. If they sold the macbook pro in the 12" macboom price bracket i could accept that, but for the price it really is retarded. basically all the models have the battery issues, there's no quad-core 13" models and they all use built-in graphics on a $2000+ machine. quad core + somewhat decent GPU is about $2500, whereas the SB will get you the highest-end stuff for that price. Keep in mind that im ignoring the thunderbolt 3 issues on the 4-port 13" model and the lack of other ports on it.

>>58381292
>stopped playing the stats game
thats precisely why they're a joke, especially now more than ever. HP Spectre destroys all 13" models and costs less, Asus Zenbook 3 destroys the 12" MB and costs less, etc.

>>58381354
Basically yes. Also legacy devices, fuck tons of legacy devices. How else will Betty hook up her 500GB USB2 3.5" extrenal drive from 2008?

>>58380930
1. You barely upgrade ram in today's consumerist world. Either you buy more at start, or just switch to next generation after a few years of planned obsolescence in software and hardware.
Also, soldered down RAM prevents against cold boot attacks.
2. There were no 28W Iris Kaby Lakes in October.
3. Dual-port Thunderbolt Controller. There are 2 of them.
You can't put more PCIe devices on 16 lanes. GPU + Wireless + 2 thunderbolt controllers. 8 + 1 + 8, something is sitting on a switch and throttles down it's bandwidth when on full load.
4. There are no ULV quad-core processors produced by Intel or AMD
5. Proprietary controller, supposedly it has higher linear speed than fastest Samsung M.2s.
6. The ones with touch bar have iris 580 graphics.
7. They signed a supply agreement with AMD a year before. Supposedly, these subpar AMD chips have lower temps than Nvidia 1060.
8. It has some kind of test pins on the PCB. Come to Apple Authorized Service Center™ for data recovery, only $199,99 + Tax. Or use Apple Cloud™ to backup your data. This is their Ecosystem™ model and their customers are okay with it.
9. Shit happens, you can buy another one.
10. What if you don't have an iPhone? Putting additional cable costs them money and creates more e-waste and clutter and Apple are Minimalist™ company.
11. Name a same specs slim laptop $1000 cheaper. Does it have an ethernet port and detachable ram?
12. Name a same specs slim laptop $1000 cheaper. Does it have an ethernet port and detachable ram?

t. never owned or used a macbook in my life, happy with my Libreboot® ThinkPad™. i'm sick of these neo-/g/ retards who can't do a simple research and stop sperging these dumb arguments pretending they know computers much.

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>>58373680
>What went wrong?

>>58381116
>I do not know anything about Intel manufacturing process, politics on mobile markets and power consumption the post
back to >>>>/r/eddit

>>58381515
>implying a faggot who presents products on a stage has anything to do with product design and features.
>>>/r/eddit

>>58381406
>The next macbook will probably get kaby lake in late 2017, and we should have cannonlake by then
Now THAT would be a problem given the expected difference from shrink. I don't see anything wrong with the Skylake-KB thing though. Waiting longer just to be able to write "7th gen" is silly.

>there's no quad-core 13" models and they all use built-in graphics on a $2000+ machine.
It's not really necessary for the intended purposes and would be pointless battery drain. Quad core should stay at 15" until 10nm.

>keep in mind that im ignoring the thunderbolt 3 issues on the 4-port 13" model and the lack of other ports on it.
SB got it own issues with bios, hinges and lack of modern ports. While now the port thing is probably a bigger issue on rMBP, depending on how fast the industry moves, SB might look obsolete in that department.

Though I agree about the pricing, specially the touchbar models are ridiculously priced and the shitty Radeons in 15" model was Apple going full zionism.

>HP Spectre destroys all 13" models and costs less, Asus Zenbook 3
CPU-wise. (Although even there the difference is minimal) The SSDs are still not on the same level, neither are battery life, screens or trackpads.

Spectre and Zenbook 3 are pretty good, don't get me wrong but they aren't there overall, which also reflects in their price. Besides 16:9 is a joke for productivity. Microsoft could so easy to make a rMB competitor by dropping their gimmicks and offering a pure laptop the size of a Surface.

>>58373680
>they strip it of functionality and compatibility with mainstream media-sharing hardware
>This somehow makes it more expensive anyway

This is the part that makes no fucking sense

>>58381565
>battery
to be fair, even the 13" models (which are all dual core) have horrific battery issues involding very large inconsistencies. That and the battery is smaller compared to the 2015 rMBP. Tey've done quad-core SPU's in the older 2012-2015 rMBP and that worked out just fine.

>>58381696
>have horrific battery issues involding very large inconsistencies
Isn't it limited to the touchbar ones?

>That and the battery is smaller compared to the 2015 rMBP.
It's not about the size only but about the other components too, Skylake alone changes a lot, then there is the more efficient screen, under normal conditions the 2016 models perform better and 2015 rMBP already had pretty respectable ones.

The price difference between 2015 - 2016 models is still a joke of course.

>>58381223
>SSD's, USB drives, RAID bays, eGPU's, headphones, displays and USB Hubs already exist, but everything else hasnt caught up yet.
I just wanna deal with everything when it is fully mainstream
It's not like apple is going to touch the macbook for the next 3 years anyway, so they probably won't fuck it up too much more

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>>58373729

>>58373729

>>58373729

>>58373729

>>58373729

This is low quality bait.

>>58381753
All the models have it. Apple always tries to play it down by saying "oh only these models and machines between these dates are affected" but realistically all the models are affected.

>while i agree that battery life isnt only based on battery size, having a significantly smaller battery still has a negative effect on things. It may be more power-efficient on low-power stuff, but once it becomes even a bit serious all power-saving features are basically thrown out the window, and it becomes a battery-only endurance at that point and thats where part of the problem lies.

>>58381781
i'm slowly gathering up various things. I start with the basics and ill eventually expand to newer things. I've got cables, adapters, USB drives and thats it. Maybe USB-C SSD enclosure later and usb-c display for macbook.

>>58380495
how do you like it?
Is sierra as bad as everybody says it is?

>>58380930
>needing 16 gigs of ram on a 12" laptop
wew
lad

>>58381515
homosexuality is a mental illness

>>58381844
all I really want is a usb-c flash drive
everything else would just be like the thunderbolt dock on the x1 carbon

>>58373782

>Why is that you faggots need USB-a
Flash drives
External hard drives
USB game controllers
Phone cords
Any appliance ever made that was intended to be plugged into a computer for any reason

Oh, and in case it wasn't driven in enough...

FUCKING FLASH DRIVES GODDAMMIT.

>But muh cloud
NO. FUCK YOU. FLASH DRIVES.

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>>58373680
>1999+18
>wires
My wireless Thinkpad™ WiGig® Dock doesn't have this problem.

>>58382179
>too dumb to solder on a type-c connector on a flash drive
What are you doing on /g/? This is not consumer review website, go back to /r/eddit or thg.

>>58382208
>all that shit over a wireless connection
Man it's amazing what garbage thinkhipsters will buy as long as it's got the right logo on it

>>58382091
desu i really like the laptop itself. I bought it for about $550 cheaper than store-bought after tax so i didnt lose out much. for $1850CAD(after tax) its an absolute ripoff, but as a $1300 laptop its actually quite good.

Pros:
SSD is comparable to samsung 950EVO
LCD has good res, really great image and amazing viewing angles. OLED tier viewing angles
light as fuck machine
pretty good battery
core m3 is actually fairly powerful for basic tasks
trackpad is as godly as ever
sturdy build as long as you dont drop it

cons:
m3 cab be a bit laggy at times, but its really not bad
keyboard is weird and takes getting use to
webcam is shit but i dont use it so i dont care
only 1 port can be annoying for some folks
the 1 port is only USB-C gen1, so 5Gbps max.
its passively cooled so it can easily throttle when doing intense things
nothing is upgradable or removable. If you spill liquid on it good luck doing any sort of data recovery.

as for software, Sierra is typical. Nothing special but i havent noticed any bad things. I'm excited for 10.13 because of apple new file system APFS. that should solve many of the OSX problems out there. the OS is very optimized for the machine and it works really well with the machine. Windows performance is shit on it.

If you can get one for a discount and can live with 1 port i highly recommend it. even the 2015 model will work well and theyre much cheaper now. i found some for $1000CAD used(in good shape)

>>58382171
there are USB drives with both USB-A and USB-C on the same drive. Kingston has one, sandisk has one, and a few more brands are jumping in too.

>>58382242
7Gbit is enough for all that shit.

>>58382283
5Gbit is really enough for basic things. It can do 4k60hz eaily and still have enough left over for a few USB-3 devices or fuckloads of USB2 devices
gen2 10Gbit and thunderbolt 3 @40Gbit is really exciting though

>>58382260
>Windows performance is shit on it.
That's weird, there was a guy with a blog blowing loads about how much better it is with W10 than Yosemite (which was admittedly lame). Never bothered to try it myself.

The cool thing about Sierra are the tabs in apps though, takes getting used to to get the most use of it but helps me a lot.

Basing an entire business model around the lgbt agenda

>>58382260
Do you use display at full resolution with scaling or lower resolution?

>>58382367
>not using it on 1920*1200

>>58382326
Thats because yosemite itself was shit. El cap was generally better. Sierra is meh. not bad but not good.

>tabs in apps
using a simple hand gesture to swipe between apps is so incredibly useful. Its one of my favorite things

>>58382367
the built-in display is scaled to 1440x900 for max real-estate. Its never at its default 2304x1440 and my second display is running off the USB-C port @1080p60. both displays are 60fps and has no real rendering lag, even with 2 full-screen videos. HD515 is decently powerful.

>>58382389
i sold my 1200p monitor recently. all i got is my 1080p left

>>58382416
MacOS only supports certain resolutions for proper scaling. Retina displays usually do 1440x900 scaled, but the 5K imac can do roughly 1080p or something like that.

>>58382416
>using a simple hand gesture to swipe between apps is so incredibly useful. Its one of my favorite things
Yeah, it's generally small things like that that make MacOS so nice to use. A godly trackpad obviously helps.

>i sold my 1200p monitor recently. all i got is my 1080p left
Meant using it on the laptop, the default resolution is way too much for a small screen but 1440*900 is bit limiting, I found 1200p the best after 2 mins of getting used to it.

>>58382448
ResFX helps with that, didn't notice any issues with using resolutions beyond the basics.

>>58382475
As someone who owned many macbooks before, and as someone who deals with them daily, the hand gestures and trackpad always make me moister than an oyster. It's like touching your legs for the first time after you shaved them.

My 12" macbook only supports 1440x900 as the max scaled res, but honestly on the small screen it works really well IMO. big enough to read shit but small enough not to bug me.

I have no real use for ResFX. If i had the 13/15" pro i'd probably scale it down all the way with ResFX but on the small display is list fine at the 900p ballpark.

If i can acquire one of the 5K imacs i'd absolutely scale the shit out of it

also, the speakers on the new macbooks are fucking ridiculous. They're just as good as many cheaper bluetooth speakers. i was genuinely shocked

>>58382416
Does it render GUI to be visible like on a 900p display or just upscales pixels? i.e. can you put a 2304x1440 wallpaper and see every pixel on it?

>>58382570
it only renders the GUI. high-res wallpapers render at normal scale. I just use 2560x1440 wallpapers and they look great. also it only upscales shit on the built-in display. my 1080p monitor isnt scaled at all.

>>58382231

That would be incredibly dumb. Not only would it stop working on every computer that used USB type A, but you also can't use this with other people's flash drives, which you may end up working with quite regularly in academic and work environments.

who /2015 rMBP/ here

>>58382916
I always readt it as reddit Mac Book Pro

>>58382260
How did you get $$$ off?
$900 usd for a macbook is a pretty great bargain
also, I don't understand why there aren't 2 ports, one on each side
>USB-C gen1
REEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>58378357
underrated post

>>58383068
i got mine second hand. since im from canuckistan, we get raped by 13% taxes. Normal price here is $1650CAD, and after tax its like $1860 roughly. I paid $1300 for mine. I bargained down with the dude from $1400. It came with case, box, warranty, and usb dongle.
no regrets at that price.

gen1 isnt that big of a deal. It's strong enough to drive 4k@60hz and still have a few USB-3 ports available and provide power

>>58373702
And only the 3rd gen iPod. The rest is utter shit with that disgusting click wheel.

>>58382916
Almost bought it instead of rMB. While I am pretty happy with my choice, I'd love the performance of a real CPU.

On the other hand, I seriously prefer the new keyboard. The rMBP is way too shallow IMO.

>>58383122
>13% taxes
How cute, it's 19% in Yuropistan. Paid 1370€ for new.

>>58383122
>1650
that works out to $50 cheaper once you convert to usd. jelly except for the tax bullshit
also, who sells a brand new laptop like that?
I have a feeling i would end up being that person if I bought a macbook

>>58382104
>having only 16 gigs of ram and being charged for 32

WEW
LAD

>>58383145
as someone who owns every classic from 1G to the 7G, the 4/5/7G were the top 3.

>>58383153
>19%
jesus fucking christ how do you guys survive? 13% is still bad, plus the mapleshekel is shit right now

>>58383170
the dude who sold it didnt like MacOS. the machine is absolutely mint. granted the dude was a smoker and it has a bit of a tobacco smell, but honestly i dont mind it especially for the huge price savings. 1300CAD = 982USD. can't complain

This is what happens when you let a designer make hardware decisions, just for the sake of looks.

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>>58383198
Pics of my machine

>>58383205
the looks are great. gives the comfy 13" PowerBook g5 feel

>>58383227
Fag

>>58373819
Successful ≠ good

>>58383198
>jesus fucking christ how do you guys survive?
It's honestly not that bad given the huge wages and generally cost of living is pretty low sans housing. Also most stuff here in Germany tends to be cheaper than the rest of Europe, so it only feels bad when looking at Murica or China.

Almost 1k saving sounds fucking awesome though and generally closer to the price it should have from the start. Apple would easy create such a fucking huge USB C market if they would drop the base price to 999 dollars.

>>58383227
What's with the nasty plastic cover for the lower side?

>>58373782
>macbabby: hey bro we're about to present our powerpoint in an hour did you finish up your part of it?
>normal person: sure did bro all it needs is some citations so we dont get an "F" from the professor. I see you have your laptop with you, could you finish this up, it would only take 3 minutes.
>hands over flash drive
>macbabby: uuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh...

>>58383227
>sticker
>powerstrip
>headphones
I swear to god if i got a mac instead of a toshiba, I would have been sucking a ton of dick in my year at college, wouldn't I?
>not complaining, would have been WAY more action than what I got being straight

>>58383277
I'd tell that faggot to get a modern computer that can handle a usb-c drive
also
>trusting a flash drive with school group projects
literally the only reason to use dropbox

>>58383299
>not using Gdrive and Gdocs for school projects
Might as well drop out and serve burgers.

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The 12" macbook is really an omage to the Powerbook G4 from 2005. Here's a pic of the powerbook G4, one of the comfiest mac laptops ever

>>58383280
headphone stand is functional. It's got a 3 port USB3 hub built in and a small DAC for my headphones. honestly i quite like the sticker. I thinm it goes well with the "minimal" look if it. reminds me of a wallpaper you can find on >>>/wg/

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>>58383333
Here's my 2016 MacBook. I fell in love with the g4 when I still had one. loved the looks so much.

>>58383333
>12 years later
>not a single Windows laptop vendor came up with a better design

>>58383322
that's exactly what I ended up doing

>>58383299
>Boss: There are 8K high resolution war pictures on this SD card here that our top cameraman took while being out in Turkey. I need you to choose one and use it for the front cover of our magazine.

>macbabby: ok boss!
>macbabby: wait, uuuuhhhhhhhhhhhh...

>>58383439
literally fitting the itoddler stereotype KEK

>>58383343
how annoying is the fact it has >only one port
what if you have to charge it away from your dongle while you need to use a flash drive?

>>58383463
but i have a samshit phone and browse on a 5 year old thinkpad

>>58383464
honestly for me, not that anoying. At my battlestation i have 3 port hub on my desk, 4 port usb2 hub in my monitor and a 3-port+gigabut hub under my desk. I also have the charging+hdmi+usb3 dongle so i can bring it if i really need to. I'll probably buy a better dongle once something newer comes ou. There are some that give 2 USb ports, SD/mSD + charging and sit flush on the macbooks body.

I have USB-C gear already so not a problem for me

>>58383479
LITERALLY
FITTING
THE STEREOTYPE

>>58383525
i'm a poor college dropout
not much i can do

>>58383274
That's just there so i dont scratch the bottom. SInce it is a portable work machine i cover it up when i leave. Im really anal about screatches and dents. it doesnt bug me because its under the machine.

>>58383349
IBM-Lenovo did better in 2006-2009

>>58383677
It's got its own look, but the 12" macbook, 11/13" Airs, and 13"rMBP have a comfy look. Powerbook G4 was comfy as fuck as well. I kind of miss mine.

>>58383677
Not sure if better but the stuff from them in that period was pretty damn good indeed. It's a shame they gave up and make faux Pro trash with 16:9 screens now.

lambos are black rapper dumb whore meme bait. any respectable car enthusiast would meh.

>>58373680
I genuinely liked apple before 2009/before steve died

>>58382104
I only wish my X220 could have 32
I think the modded BIOS I gave it can do that

>>58384550
Are there 16 gig ram sticks?

>>58384664
I think there's a few companies that make them
now that I think about it the modded bios should only be able to do 16

>>58383277
>why don't you just email/air drop/drop box/ etc to me instead
>but but muh autism-stick

>>58384690
They work on haswell and broadwell only.

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Lmaoing at you, retards. Real Professional equipment uses XQD memory cards, so you end up using thunderbolt adapter anyways.

>>58381174
Can't you install your own OS?

>>58383277
>macbabby: uuuuuuhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh... can you send it via email or put it in the drop box?

>>58385075
>flash drives are now autism sticks
>itoddler: uhhhhhhhhhhhh

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This is all I need really fuck you anti apple shills

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oh look all my problems magically disappeared.

>>58385850
the other side has a standard usb for cross compatibility.

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>>58378522
nice rational argument

>>58382130
>dude weed lmao

>>58385850
>sandisk overpriced garbage

>>58378313
> weeb comparison
kek

>>58373680
>2017
>actually plugging things into your laptop

everything should be wireless mate

>>58381048
It's much better than the macbook, i actually like it on the pro

>>58380495

I'd be embarrassed to post that picture

>>58373680
When they started losing market they just pretended they weren't and that everything was fine unlike the God that is Windows who tried to fix it.

They are still trying to transform parts of the market that is fine.

>>58381189

>drives mom's old pontiac

>>58380495
What is that headphones stand?

>>58386150
weed is degenerate

>>58380659
Those things don't exist, and since every other computer still has USB-A, there will never be a reason to do a manufacturing run of such things.

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>>58378167

>>58381502
>11. Name a same specs slim laptop $1000 cheaper. Does it have an ethernet port and detachable ram?
>12. Name a same specs slim laptop $1000 cheaper. Does it have an ethernet port and detachable ram?
xps 13
xps 15

sure theyre not a thousand dollars cheaper but they are at least a few hundred

>>58389135
>xps
>"""thin"""
>has fans
>ugly as shit
>wangblows
no thanks

>>58382104
Kek, I had a MacBook 2010 that had 16GB RAM

>>58389129
Lamborghini: crashed mac/windows install someone installed because "he needs to get shit done and has no time for hobbyist OS'"
Lada 4x4: Linux rescue CD

>>58389277
>Lada 4x4: Linux rescue CD
Kek, Macs have a Restore Partition, so do most Windows installs. Macs can even use network restore even it there's no hard drive

>>58389277
>2017
>CD
only linux fucks

>>58389165
>has fans
Wait, since when MacBook Pros are fanless?

>>58384516
Any products up to 2012 are fine, then they started fucking with their own designs. The 2014 MBP i7 is the only last good Mac.

>>58383464
Different anon. Doesn't bother me a single bit. I have an older MBP I use with all ports as my main workhorse.

>>58389338
>pro
why the fuck would you get that thick ass touchbar piece of shit?

>>58389344
Yeah, I figured I'd do something similar, but with a *nix PC that I would SSH into

>>58389499
not him, but because I like editing videos and drawing in photoshop. It is actually helpful with the right software.

>>58373702
> less than 15% market share
> successful
Top kek m8

>>58373680
The Macbook isn't a problem as its a consumer device.

The Macbook Pro is a MASSIVE fuckup in every regard.

Everyone I know is waiting until next year to see if Apple learns their lesson. Right now I have 4 fucking dongles attached to my Pro at work and it's infuriating.

>>58373680
one port, thats literally the biggest problem with it

the fact that you can't have it charging at the same time as anything else is a huge let down for versatility. They had more than enough space to run a second USB port but they chose not to for some reason like they're trying to copy their bullshit iphones

>>58373680
/g/ can't afford it/doesn't want it

if apple made big clunky laptops neckbeards would love em

>>58373680
Can someone tell me when I'm supposed to start having problems with my MacBook?

It's been amazing ever since I got it

Posted from my MacBook with Retina Display

>>58389663
When Apple tells you to upgrade a.k.a when the updates makes your mac too much slow to even do basic tasks.

>>58373722
It is.
There are 2 models of donglebook
The Pro, and the regular one. That's the regular

>>58389846
When will that happen?

>>58389858
They're both Pro you dumb dumb, it's just non-Touchbar and Touchbar.

Unless you mean the original last Macbook which was a joke.

>>58389894
5 to 6 years at most.

>>58389637
but we love them because they make unbelievably thin, yet capable computers?
All while adding that signature apple beauty and design????
Not all of us want to buy a HP xps edge knockoff

>>58389929
Donglebook "original"
And Donglebook Pro, 13 or 15", with or without touchbar

How is it hard to understand

>>58373680
Its price. It's a 1500€ iPad with lower performance than iPads. It's gladly buy that sexy thing for 600 goy tokens. Certainly not for 1500.

>>58389846
False shit, using a 2009 MacBook right now with Sierra and it's blazing fast like it has always been, not slower, not faster.

>>58391061
If you want a mac get the 2014 mbp, it has better specs and actual ports.

Also second hand is cheap s fuck

>>58373680
a better computer came out
http://www.bestbuy.com/site/asus-zenbook-3-ux390ua-12-5-laptop-intel-core-i7-16gb-memory-512gb-solid-state-drive-royal-blue/5622780.p?skuId=5622780

>>58373819
you mean Nokia 1100?

>>58392538
literary could get >>58392289 cheaper and still better

>>58392289
>way over 1kg
>outdated design

>>58392538
>got casual aspect ratio and shit tier trackpad

It's like you faggots really don't get the market.

>>58392590
I want a thin computer though
>>58392924
>wanting a piss poor core m over a powerful i7 processor
lmao at people who "know" computers just because they can pull up the system information in the settings gui

>>58393079
>wanting a piss poor core m over a powerful i7 processor
Depends entirely on the work you plan to do. Core M is pretty decent for most basic tasks and would probably suffice for 90% of people working with computers.

Also it's not like there is a noticeable difference between laptop i5 and i7.

>I want a thin computer though
Then new rMBP is pretty much the only option.

>>58393147
>Also it's not like there is a noticeable difference between laptop i5 and i7.
>implying mobile i7's don't have 128MB L4 cache

>>58393147
>Then new rMBP is pretty much the only option.
TOO
FAT

>>58393524
Time to get used to Core M then.

>>58393821
see >>58392538
Or I can have a beautiful thin laptop with a very powerful processor
Why would I compromise and by the mac?

>>58394326
Because the laptop got a shitty trackpad (let's be real here, all trackpads are subpar compared to mac but this one seems extra bad) and an inferior screen. Also very likely a shitty battery life. At least this review confirms it (but it was given with the specs and size)

>http://www.ultrabookreview.com/11984-asus-zenbook-ux390ua-review/
6h for light browsing in 2017 is embarrassing.

Not sure about you, but I'd say taking few seconds longer for compiling code is preferably to an inferior screen and trackpad, especially if your battery dies much sooner.

>>58394401
>muh trackpad
>muh reh-tin-uh display
macfags gtfo

>>58394401
>6h for light browsing in 2017 is embarrassing.
>literary no laptop every without a tumor battery like the thinkpad

>>58394450
>this butthurt over the best trackpad and disply

>>58375949
macbook is more like, bmw i8 though.

>>58394464
DESU I am not even sure how they managed to make it so shitty. My old ass HP from 2008 got similar battery capacity, a HDD and would last 6h too when it was still new. Sure the CPU and screen are different but one would expect that 9 years of technological advancements would even it out.

>>58394550
kek, I agree

>>58383277
>macbabby: Just throw it to me via scp, there's a public folder you can use guest@<addr>:<path>
>pajeet: !?!?!?!

>>58394609
>being a computer hacker
no thinks, I'm not a terrorist

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>>58385858
Having to buy an extra peripheral to use your $1300 laptop.

>>58373680
Maybe, JUST maybe, a 2017 notebook should have more ports than a 2009 smartphone.

>>58398617
It has more ports than a 2017 smartphone though :^)

>>58398617
Why? If it's a desktop replacement, sure. A normal laptop though? Wireless does just fine, specially if you don't surround yourself with people who are close to retirement and still use thumb drives.

>>58385858
>80 extra dollars
KEK
This is like paying for a salad at a restaurant but they don't give you forks, then it turns out they only sell utensils for 50 bucks each.

>>58373680
ever since apple wanted to be anorexic. previous generations were great.

>>58376171
legend

>>58373680
>What went wrong?
Tim "lets fucking make Steve jobs rage in heaven/hell" cook

>>58375548

Just get a USB cable and plug the camera in, problem solved.

>>58389122
>Those things don't exist

Except they do.
There are literally dozens of USB-C memory sticks, and any USB device with a detachable cable can connect to USB-C with just a $5-10 cable.
Apple's own USB-A to USB-C adapter is $10.

>>58375949
But its neither fast nor fun to use.

>>58373680
More like what went so right

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>>58378313
You would have made food comparison, right?