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Any experience with chink chargers? I'm strapped for cash, but I don't want my battery to explode.

fuck nugs to the dome
names shaggy to dope
got my balls in her soup-oop

X220 or X230 and why?

daily reminder that the ThinkPad brand is kill

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got myself a present, T410, $88

what distro so I can get Wangblows 10 off ASAP

>>58348449
install gentoo

Seriously though, Lubuntu and Antergos are good

>>58348397
>x220 cause muh superior keyboard
Seriously dude that thing is crazy comfy

>>58348870
Been trying to find an i7 model with an IPS screen, but haven't seen any in months.
Do they even exist or it's tablet model exclusive?

>>58348916
First link on Google for x220 with i7 processor
https://www.amazon.com/Thinkpad-Lenovo-4299GC3-i7-2640M-FingerReader/dp/B005AJYZE8

>>58348974
>x220
>i7
You'll have to buy the X230 fan if you don't want to hear a turbine each time you put any moderate workload.

(yes, the x230 and 220 fans are interchangeable each other)

>>58348397
X230
>better gpu
>runs cooler
>the first-gen chiclet is not that bad

>>58348364
Get an used genuine charger.

>>58348449
Debian testing

How good are the newer ThinkPads' screen color?
My friend wants a laptop under 800 for AI and Photoshop but I have no idea which one is good under 800, because I've been using XPS the entire time.

holy shit the t430 is max comfy
thanks dudes

How is battery life from an hdd to ssd?

I have the chromebook edition of x131e(celeron) running win7,
I have a battery life of about 5 hours on full usage amd on the lowest setting of like 7.5 hours i want to say.

If it matters, I will be using the wd blue 250gb ssd that recently had a pricing error and bought it for $20.

My standard hdd is a seagate 250 5400 hdd

Thanks

>>58349158
If you want ThinkPad you'll have to spend more than 1000 dollars. With the current generation for example, the T460s is offered with 2 display types, a baseline 60% sRGB FHD panel and a 96% sRGB WQHD(2560x1440) panel that costs about $150 more.

>>58348364
you can get a used official one for the same price as a really cheap chink one
>>58348397
main machine? or just something you will dick around on and you have another laptop?
If it's going to be your primary laptop then 100% get the x230
but if it's just something to dick around on then just get the x220.
>>58348449
windows 7
>>58349084
the only thing really wrong with it is the layout
the keys themselves feel just as good as my t40
>>58349227
you won't notice a difference unless you have a really power hungry hdd

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Just snagged a W541 for $500.

i7-4810MQ 8GB ram 256GB SSD Jewdia Quadro K1100M
scores well on Passmark
http://www.cpubenchmark.net/cpu.php?cpu=Intel+Core+i7-4810MQ+%40+2.80GHz&id=2196

Track pad isn't retarded like the W540's either.

Anyone have some tips or sites to peruse for an extra power adapter, battery, and docking station? That is besides Amazon of course.

I want to buy a used Thinkpad for word processing that I can bring on planes with me, can anyone recommend a model you think would be cheapest?

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Can't wait to buy a T570 and an eGPU

>>58348432
Sad!

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>>58348397
X230
Do the keyboard swap if it kills you.
Plus it doesn't have the curved trackpoint buttons, they went back to the oldschool angled look.

>>58349158
X1C3 had an awesome matte 4K display
B140HAN01.3 panel from an E7440 is great, I have it on my T430s.
But pinpointing the panel from a seller is hard unless its the obvious IPS or upgraded panel... Because there can be more than one manufacturer for each screen resolution.

>>58349227
Probably like 40 minutes
It depends since if its so speedy, you might push it harder.

>>58349760
Very very nice!
Just buy a genuine used adapter/dock from eBay.

>>58350019
>recommend
I recommend a T450
>cheapest
Get a R400 I guess or X120e.

If a thinkpad has windows 10 on it but a windows 7 license sticker comes with it, because they "upgraded" it, can I use that sticker and it's info to install a fresh copy of win7 somehow?

when will I get thinkpads for free.
I'm too poor to get another one.
fund me.

btw, does lenovo still sending out batteries?
Im qualified to get one.
applied it last 29, will I get it?

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Hey >>>/g/tpg/

I have an X220. My battery lasted for 3 hours until the day before yesterday, now it suddenly lasts barely half an hour.

The only thing out of the usual I did was keep the battery and laptop in a bit colder room let's say 15°C and higher for a day. The battery was unplugged and the lap was doing some stuff at 50% cpu.

I don't know what to do. Can I somehow recondition or do I need a new one?

can anyone give me ready to flash coreboot images for x220?
I have a ch341a flasher and clips that I use for repair.
Is coreboot a nice meme?

>>58351108

Probably win10 doing background maintenance ie sending your nude pictures back to MS botnet

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https://www.aliexpress.com/item/11-1V-94WH-Korea-Cell-Original-New-Battery-for-Lenovo-Thinkpad-X230-X230I-X220I-X220-45N1029/32347307557.html

Is this a good price for a 9cell x230 battery?

Wouldnt it be cheaper to just recell the battery I have atm?

>>58348870
who are you quoting xd

>>58351457
It would be cheaper to recell the batteries
Thats why the circuit shorts out and you end up needing to buy a battery.

>>58351623
so is $80 a good deal?

Was browsing craigslist listings. T43 and x61 both up for 50
Which would be the better buy? I've been wanting a thinkpad for a while now

>>58351006
>Just buy a genuine used adapter/dock from eBay.
Used/genuine from ebay? I was planning on grabbing whatever was off Amazon. The adapters on there too chinky?

>>58351698
x61 because thats cheap for a x61

>>58351007
No, unless they have some sort of downgrade rights. Nab a Win7 legit key for dollary doos or use daz loader is the only other option.

>>58348537
Went with Lubuntu, just trying out DEs and WMs because LXDE isn't my cup of tea.

>>58351698
they're both getting quite old now
The X61 is newer and smaller so if you want to get any use out of it, I'd go with that

Is there anywhere in burgerland to get 16GB of RAM for my dankpad for cheap? Amazon has it at nearly $80, so cheaper than that.

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$310 for a brand new X230?

Only drawback seems to be Swedish keyboard.

>>58352139
oh and it has docking station with optical drive included in the price tag.

>>58352139
Don't. Swedish keyboards are known to cause left-wing mental retardation.

>>58352102
You could try eBay
buy from a seller who has a good rating and make sure they've tested it

you could gamble on untested ram

>>58352139
Swedish keyboard is okay, just don't forget to wipe off all that nigger semen before using it.

>>58351006
>x120e
Do you have any experience with it? Did you try to swap the motherboard with i3 one from edge 11?

I just bought a t440p, i5-4300m, 1080p, 4gb ram, 500gb hd, backlit keyboard for $290 (shipping included) on ebay.

Am I a fucking retard or was this a decent price?

>>58352246
Considering the first UK listing on eBay is £329 for 8GB of ram but a 900p screen, and US listings show the same 8gb 900p for about $280, you did didn't do too bad

>>58352332
That's reassuring. Sometimes it's hard to know. I am looking forward to ricing this fucker up with an SSD and more ram.

>>58348319
Guys I need to share.
I really wanted to buy newest (ok 3rd newest) thinpad generation.

But then I realised I''m spending 2500$ on a notepad that will not even run Mafia2 on high details thanks to quadro m1000m.

Now I'm considering some clevo gaymen shit.
I'm not much of a vidya guymyself, but the idea overpaying for a card that is great for CAD-like stuff only kills me.

Help /g.
(yes i will and have to spend 2.5k)

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Should I remove the battery from my X230 if I'm running it with the AC Adapter for a few days straight?

>>58352770
literally buy something from W-series

>>58352781
If you have adapter plugged then the battery isn't used.

>>58352783
isnt it discountinued (at least here no distributor offer them)? I cant buy 2nd handed. I went for P50

>>58352822
Should have waited, p51 is president soon.

>>58352829
I cant... Ive got time to buy until middle of february

>>58351108
Now it drained to 7% in a few minutes and is at 7% the last half an hour.

>>58352822
Last I checked the W541 (Haswell) i7 quad is still kind of the beast in the Lenovo lineup. There might be a Broadwell version that's the same or better slightly.

>>58352880
Dont they put quadros inside as well?

>>58352770
they're buying you a workstation laptop and you're worried about getting a gtx in there?

fuck you, nigger

>>58352966
No they give me money to buy any PC i want, but for my personal use.

I appreciate all aspects of high-end thinkpads just the graphic card they put inside has an application I will never benefit from.

I was told that any screen other than IPS is shit and if I buy it i'm a fucking retard nigger?

>>58353084
Not quite, but TN panels are horrible compared to IPS panels

>>58352899
Yes they do.

>>58351698

X61 at £50/$50 is a good price. I paid £60 for my X60s and it is pretty nice condition. It is my daily driver.

>>58353084
That's true with ThinkPads.

>>58353422
That's my problem.
I have a hardon for thinpad, I love the aesthetics, trackpad, waterproofness, and sturdyness. I hate gayming notebooks design.

In this price check comparable p50/70 and clevo both will have i7, DDR4s and SSDs, but one comes with quadro m1000m the other with gtx1070...

Yes I know it's a 1st world problem. But I see you guys discusing about second hand t's all the time but when somebody comes with higher budget lots of anons turn passive-aggresive.

>>58354137
I know I'm going to get shit from someone, but /r/thinkpad on reddit is a bit more active than /tpg/, and they're much more accepting of people buying new ones

They also like Linux and Windows equally and that's a plus

>>58354330
And I'm about to lurk there because aparently I'm a retard because I want to spend more than 500$ on it and despite the fact that, indeed I got the money from the company for it, I do care for the equipment I'm going to use for the next 3 years.

Thanks bro.

>>58352796
That's not true, when under heavy load some laptops use the battery to complement the power delivered by the adapter

>>58348319
>go to join IRC
>IRC 100% empty
Come on guys

>>58351736
Typically eBay has lower priced adapters, so finding one under $15 should be easy. I paid $16 for my first adapter, and it was non-oem, never again.

>>58352174
If you have money to do an i3 swap, you might as well get that edge 11, a X201 or an i3 X130e.

>>58352770
hah
get an alienware 18 or go home

>>58353084
Nah, its not that bad, just the T420 & X100e get a bad rep.

>>58354330
Go to /r/thinkfags then and stay there.

>>58354404
No because its apparent you're a fucking faggot and want to get a gaming recommendation from people who prefer business computers. You walk the Dell XPS line or Edge ThinkPad.

You simply thought about getting a ThinkPad before realizing that they aren't for gaming, and then you come to the ThinkPad circle and ask for a gaming laptop instead.

>>58355209
x130e is too big
x201 is too old
edge 11 has disgusting case. x120e looks like it's business class serie

>>58355220
Well, what should I recommend genius because the person asked for cheapest ThinkPad?

>just get a T460 if you can get it under $200
>just get an X1C4 if you can get it under $200
>just get a W550s if you can get it under $200
There, cheapest thinkpad.

>>58355209
I came to /tpg because it's one of few boards I lurk. I know you guys know more about tech news than any ppl I know irl.
I would be completely fine if they were having shitty graphics and I'm fine they are not for gaming, but what i really realised is I pay huge load of money to have a graphic card that render smoothest CAD lines but cam't run vidya from 2013... And there is no other configuration option for p50.

I decided to talk about my matter with thinkpad circlejerk because well, my mom ain't got a clue about the topic..

And for your information all comments criticising my way of conduct are also helpfull in making a decision. I've never spent more than 500$ for a gadget in my life, including first PC as a teen.

>>58351108
limit the frequency by setting the maximum processor state at the power options control panel.
99% disables turbo and reduces the heat.
65-70% works pretty good for me.

>>58355390
Fair enough
Just remember, in general, parts for business computers are a lot cheaper than consumer equivalents, since you're getting a gaming laptop, you're gonna get the gaming tax on those parts.

It took me three months of research before setting down and buying my first laptop, an X61T half a decade ago.
I looked up everything about them.

Have you considered Dell's Precision line? They have been known be upgraded to GTX cards from Alienware laptops, much easier than HP Elitebook 87xx & 85xx line.

Is your budget $2500, or is it $800? Because it's kinda hard to recommend anything other than Aliumware.

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>>58355390
>I know you guys know more about tech news than any ppl I know irl.
This is so true that it is actually sad.
This board has became consumer elevtronics.

>>58355623
I checked most of the market.

The huge part of this investition is on-site 3year warranty that comes either with p50s (quadros) or Saelics Vidi (clevo rebranding - comes with gtx 1070).
My budget is 2200-2500 to be exact.

What parts are you specificly talking about? All stuff in my price range comes with i7 skylakes, DDR4's , M.2 slots.

Even if I go for gtx, I'd use it for 5% of a time i know but more I read about nvidia quadros the more i see they are overpriced as fuck for what they give.

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>>58352770
>gaming on a business computer
>muh high details onna laptop
get the fuck out of here

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-Edge-E330-i3-2370M-Windows/dp/B01N052MOQ/ref=sr_1_147?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1482720591&sr=1-147&keywords=lenovo

is this a good buy? needing something for college, programming and android studio

>>58355843
edge is shit. Get an old used thinkpad

>>58355858
the old thinkpads all have diskdrives and i've read that they are heavy, plus i've seen none with a HDMI port

tell me exactly why i shouldnt get the edge?

>>58355891
its has cheap plastic, shit screen, bad keyboard and shit hinges

>>58355915
well i suspected that honestly, thanks for the advice

>>58355843
>android studio
>being a code monkey

>>58355891
>old thinkpads are heavy
just get an x series you fat fuck
also, start doing push ups

I have an x200 and want to
>Install coreboot
>Replace the screen with an affs panel
>Potentially buy a new 9 cell battery
Are any of these things difficult?

https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-Thinkpad-X201-Professional-Refurbished/dp/B0142KPWO2/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1483719857&sr=1-3&keywords=lenovo+x201

what do you guys think of this for £170?
>Battery pack sticking out the back is gross
>ill never use the vga port
>ill never use the express card slot

other than that this might be good value for the specs

>>58356038
did i say programming? i mean making futa SFM gifs

>>58356112
I snagged a refurb X201t with the i7, a Samsung SSD and a 8gb RAM kit for like £150 and I'm in the UK

>>58356106
>coreboot
there is a version of coreboot with all binary blobs removed, and works with the x200

>>58356638
nice, where did you buy?

>>58357156
some refurbisher on ebay
Can't remember the name, but remember that the background to all of the images that they used were multicoloured

>>58355209
>Typically eBay has lower priced adapters, so finding one under $15 should be easy. I paid $16 for my first adapter, and it was non-oem, never again.

Thanks. I already picked up an adapter and the docking station off ebay. Unfortunately a sub 20 dollar adapter isn't in the cards since I need the 170w adapter. Ultradock with adapter though can be had for 100 or less.

I got a x220 for cheap for my gf, after day of tweaking I cleaned most of the shit on preinstalled windows 7, unfortunately no GNU/Linux since she wants and is used to windows.

Any tips or guides what is recommended to make the best of your X220 on w7?

>>58355745
Just get the clevo then.

Literally doesn't even matter, you're going to view gaming benchmarks as a higher priority than proven reliability, ease of repairs & usability for a work computer (for which you don't even say what you need the computer for, let alone why needing a GTX 1070 at that).

Just take a 17" gaming computer to your work meetings, you wont fit in the business macbook/xps13/UX305 crowd, but who cares.

I see no reason why you want a gaming laptop for work other than you're trying to get the most bang for your buck.
IMO just get the best warranty for your computer, and maybe some extra protection for it too, and an external hard drive for backups

>>58358198
Damn... yeah a 170w will be a big dollar... I think I paid $125 for my W700DS dock w/o an adapter.

Best 3rd party battery brand?

>>58358713
Anker

Everything is will explode

>>58358462
installed the advanced BIOS 1.43, feels like a tiny improvement.

see
http://x220.mcdonnelltech.com/resources/

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>>58358724

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MhGkxkzmPbQ&feature=youtu.be

>>58358992
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bFfplZz78DI

Is there any reason to update the Bios of my X230? It's on a 2012 version.

There are several people who state they bricked their X230 when updating the BIOS with the Lenovo Ultility in Windows...

Any chance to get a replacement nipple for your keyboard?

>>58359662
eBay

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How often you should clean a thinkpad?
Like blowing in its vents, wiping the screen,etc.,,

>>58359739
at the point people call you hobo

>>58359669
I was searching for "cursor" and found nothing...searching for "cap" did the trick. Thanks.

The refurbished t440p, i5-4300m, 1080p 4gbram 500gb hdd that I bought this morning is shipping.

Is it worth it to get a 42mm m2 drive and keep the 500gb platter drive for storage? Also, should I just get an 8gb stick of ram to go for 12gb, or does the mismsatch not matter?

I am also going to replace the touchpad with the compatible 3-button synaptics touchpad from eBay.

What else do I need/what else should I do? I'm so excited for this fucking thing to arrive.

>inb4 quad-core processor, i'm not doing that

>>58359902
And by worth it, I mean should I not do that and just get a sata ssd instead?

>>58351006
>>58350019
Me again, I can get a used X31 with an extra battery for €40, do you think that's a good machine for word processing?

>>58359902
I'd buy a Blu ray drive, and if you can get an m.2 drive and regular SSD. Dual boot operating systems

>>58360206
if you install a lightweight distro on it, yes

>>58359662
eBay sells that, get like 10 nipples for a buck.

>>58360252
I was thinking of getting a blu-ray later, for sure. But I'm not really a linux guy, so there's not a huge need for me to dual boot. i'd like to keep the regular hdd for media files and shit.

>>58359902
>>58360467
Honestly I don't notice the difference really between m.2 and and my standard 2.5 ssd's. I've run the benchmarks and yes my numbers are up with m.2 but it's not noticeable at all. I do like m.2 for the space saving aspect (extra drives always welcome). The bandwidth is nice to have when you actually do a ton of writes. Once we get to a point where it's affordable within reason to have an array of 2-4 m.2 1-2TB striped then we'll be cooking.

>>58358802
Update again,
reinstalled with Windows 10, so much better.
(of course first thing doing is no remove all the spyware)

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FUCK, I BOUGHT A THINKPAD AND COMPLETELY FORGOT ABOUT THIS

>>58360841
god, i forgot too

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>>58360303
Cool, I've pulled the trigger.
Seller says it has a screen from an X32, an extra battery, 1GB of RAM (up from the standard 512MB) and a 160GB drive (up from 60GB).

Unfortunately it has a massive green sticker of a Space Invader on the back, but I can live with that.

>>58360775
M.2 slots on ThinkPads are usually still SATA, not PCI. So it doesn't make a huge difference

>>58360981
Good to know. Thanks! I have m.2 on two of my desktops both of which have 850 EVO's. I just don't see a noticeable difference.

>>58360981
So it's actually not faster, just smaller? The T440p is is PCI-e to SATA so SATA speeds?

>>58360841
I just turned on Fn-Ctrl replacement in BIOS. It's annoying, but it's easy to get used to.

>>58361282
But the key size is what bothers me the most, I know you can just change it in the bios

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any opinions on this? http://www.bestbuy.com/site/lenovo-thinkpad-yoga-2-in-1-14-touch-screen-laptop-intel-core-i5-8gb-memory-256gb-solid-state-drive-black/4456400.p?skuId=4456400

>>58361321
Yeah, you can't do anything about that. Pisses me off as well.

>>58358497
Actually my CTO is using a hyperbook, and one of the seniors introducing me to company pushed all this gtx info on me as he had the same dillema for the past 6 months and ended up with discussed clevo. so I don't have to worry about others opinion. Actually there is one apple fun that get laughed at all the time.
This is not usa.
>proven reliability, ease of repairs & usability for a work computer
I do care for that otherwise I'd just go for gtx and forget about thinkpad. I can even get that clevo ~300$ cheaper (which would be put in more ram or another ssd as I have to spend that cash anyway...)

Also gaming laptops are ugly as fuck.

I guess I just needed some slap from you guys thats why I started this conversation in the first place, I always wanted highend thinkpad - for the last work week I was pushed to the side of clevo by my coworkers - now I'm shifting back to the business side of the spectrum.

Best part? We are embedded devs. Well they are, I'm still just a pleb.

Should i buy Lenovo Ideapad 700 15.6" Laptop, Black (Intel Core i7-6700HQ, 16GB, 1TB HDD + 128GB SSD, NVIDIA GeForce GTX 950, Windows 10) for 990€ lads?

>>58361323
I have one I'm trying to sell. You should buy it from me

>>58361323
And I should clarify I'm selling the haswell i5 version for $425, but with a 1tb HDD+16gb m.2

>>58361685
on ebay or something?

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>>58361691
Yeah on eBay. Nobody bought it but I only have it listed on my local Craigslist now

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>>58361713

>>58361713
link and i may take a look, why you selling?

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>>58361718
It's still 1080p IPS, 4.1 lbs. The yoga feature is kind of a meme. I replaced the track pad with the button ones and the only flaw is a tiny plastic crack here

>>58361727
Selling because I bought a MacBook pro. Lol.

>>58361733
thats not a tiny crack, thats a missing chunk.

>>58361751
It's why I'm selling it for about $100 cheaper than it's worth

http://www.ebay.com/itm/112260980716

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How true is this for a new laptop?

>>58362464
Really makes you think

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What the fug

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It's so great

>>58362772
what model.
Literally just got a P50 today.

>>58362707
mng a x62 is cheaper

>>58362948
It's a p50. Base model

What glue should I use to reattach the screw hole covers?

Always wondered what that gummy sort of glue was that only loses its adhesiveness due to dust

Is it normal for a 3320M (X230) to push 80 degrees while driving an external 1080p monitor and browsing the web on the machine?

Seems high to me.

>>58363471
Is the lid closed?

>>58363477

No, I've got fullscreen video on one screen through Display Port and I'm browsing the web on the actual laptop at the same time.

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hello just mine friends i question for the thinkpad expert of the board /g/. how long is just mine power. thanks friends and have good martin luther king day friend. picture related to mine post.

>>58363507
forget to mention that i have the linux distribution unlocked onto the thinkpad (t60) thanks to good g friend

>>58363497
80C isn't unusual for older ThinkPads. The solution in most cases is to replace the termal compound. Lenovo cheap out on that. It's not hard really. Go watch some YT tutorial on the topic.

>>58363968

Cheers. Googling seems to give me similar answers.

>>58363988
Just a little warning: Don't put too much on. For a laptop this is even more important than for a desktop. You don't want is coming out under the heat spreader

best linux distro for a T420?

>>58362772
I envy your ability to make the best of terrible situation.

>>58361323
Anybody?

>>58362707
LED mod is tough to do
I botched a few displays ;x
>8GB RAM probably costs $120 alone
>500GB SSD, most likely $150+ at time of purchase
IMO maybe $600 - 800 would be my target range if I ever built one so wild.

>>58362278
Fairly true
I've had some batteries die on me when buying new.

>>58360206
Sounds about right
Paid $60 for mine a few years back, had gotten one with a glossy AFFS panel. <3
Its a cute machine, I haven't really went online for it, but the comparable T30 fares fine.
The keyboard is classic IBM, & the machine is fairly well built.

>>58359902
m.2 & mSATA are really convienent.
I didn't really notice super super fast boot up times when I had my X1C3 and it was m.2.
But I'm not picky about speeds once I have an SSD on my machine.

Just got a x201 for $80 shipped, how'd I do lads?

>>58364611
You got it great.In my country used one with warranty from PC Shop is around 220$

>>58364219
Why is it bad?
Only issue I've heard is the screen but it looks great to me. Brightness could be better though

>>58365223
I couldn't be happy with it because the design is a big regression compared to older WS thinkpads I'm used to. I think everyone already knows about these problems, but P50/70 are special cases because they were hyped as a return to older thinkpad quality. It's true that they're much better than the W540/541 abject failures, but they're still not worthy.

There was nothing wrong with my P50 technically and the screen in the unit I had was fine apart from the claustrophobic ratio (4K version). It was just very unpleasant for me to use, so I sold it.

>>58348449
I like Antergos; it'll give you that fresh feeling of Arch with the ASAP you requested.

>>58365633
I was an arch virgin with antergos so I loved it, but even taking the extra 10 minutes to use architect made me love arch even more

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>>58362772
I agree.
Xeon/M2000M here

X220 with IPS or X220T? I'd like a laptop I can draw on, I'm not sure if there's an X220 variant that has a pen that isn't the X220T.
Also, I've read the X220T is guaranteed to have an IPS screen, is that true?

>>58365862
Lookin good anon

>>58365594
I see. I don't have too much experience with ThinkPads of old aside from using them in school as a kid.
The only complaints I can think of are the duplicate volume function buttons, the swapped function and control buttons, and the mediocre brightness.

And yeah, was scared of the 4k version for that reason but it's not exclusive to this model or anything.

Also build quality is fantastic, as far as I can tell

>>58366263
And also the fact that the top of the lid is an insane fingerprint magnet

t430 w/ i5 3320m and nvs 5400m reporting in

just replaced stock thermal paste with AS5

before at 5000rpm idle was at 46C, load 87C

after at 5000rpm idle is 33C, load 74C

fuck year

what modern keyboard+trackpad is closest in quality to tp classic? No double-size delete key BS either, I'm talking something like the T400.

>>58366248
X220T is guaranteed to have an IPS screen. It seems to have some protective surface on the screen, which makes it look a little bit less clear and bright than the X220, but it's pretty close in quality.

X220T is also a bit heavier too, but if you really want to draw on it, then it's the way to go.

>>58363507

>how much energy your battery holds, in microwatt*hrs
cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/energy_full


>how much energy the battery is supposed to have (when new etc)
cat /sys/class/power_supply
/BAT0/energy_full_design

>the current percentage of charge remaining
cat /sys/class/power_supply/BAT0/capacity

also most sane distros have a battery meter built in. Just use lubuntu if you can't figure out the other distros

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I have an x200 and an x201s.

What are the absolute best screens I can put in these?

>>58359205
i had no issues using the windows utility to update my bios.

>>58365862
Nice device and shit, but why did they remove the hardware volume and mute button? I thought this to be a very nice feature.

Is the i5 in an x230 enough to run modern games with good fps using an e-gpu setup? I read in a previous thread someone was having trouble with it and he was using an i7 so I assume no.

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Has anyone ever owned, or at least seen one of these?

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>>58351108
Hey /g/, I still can't fix this thingy.
It was like this >>58352862 at 7% for 2 hours, played back 720p anime all the time + converting it to 60FPS with SVP and I was surfing the net simultaneously so I know the capacity or whatever it is called is good but the sensors are bad. Then it shuts down and BIOS won't let it turn on: "critical battery". Thereafter I just let it stay off for the night, plugged in (apparently google says this is how to recalibrate - draining completely then recharging for a long time). It's still not fixed now.
>>58351180
To remove Bill Gates from the picture, Arch Linux too shows <1% battery. Also BIOS sees it incorrect too as I just said.
>>58355548
I don't get how this helps at all but I'll try I guess.

>>58368974
Also, the BIOS code before shutting down is 0190.
>>58355548
The CPU state setting doesn't change anything.

Anyone else with an x201 have a terrible battery life? I hardly get an hour of use out of 100% charge.

>>58369218
just get a new battery

Hey just a quick question /tpg/
Looking to get an x220 soon.
What sort of price range should I be looking at for one with an I7?

Also on a related note, is there any way to get any resolution on it above 1366x768?

So, I can buy a X240 or a T520
X240
>tiny
>1080P panel without stupid chink mods (though I have to buy the panel, in Chile the used ones always are the cheaper ones with shitty 1366 cancer)
>awesome battery life
>portable as fuck
>awful trackpad (though replaceable with X250 one)
>I have to replace the keyboard with a US only. I hate spanish keyboards
T520
>powerful
>awesome keyboard (tough I have to change it for a US one)
>I can flash it with a modded bios for muh AC wifi card or easy hackintosh
>1080p Beautiful TN panel (tough finding one could be difficult in this shithole and I get less DPI anyways for the size of the screen)
>Heavy as fuck
Both are for more or less the same price. What I get /g/?

>>58369658
x240 have no proper trackpoint buttons so i dont recommend it

>>58369719
That's I was tough, lad. I have to spend 21 dollars only to change it, but have to endure that shit for a least a month if I decide to change it.

>>58369218
This or recell the battery.
>>58369232
Lenovo looks to see if you recell the battery though which requires more care.

>>58360841
Being this young lul.

>>58369232
How much will it increase the capacity?

sry new to this thread, is x250 with i5/8gb/180ssd for 600e good or did i got goofed ?

>>58368525
; _ ; i wish...
still cost over 1000

I can't get my X220t to autorotate and disable the pointing stick when it's in tablet mode after reinstalling Windows. What do I need to get for that to work again? My SWTOOLS folder is gone.

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>>58348319
Hey /tpg/,

I recently bought a renovated (not a native speaker) T420. The problem is the battery stopped charging after a week or so.
The problem shouldn't be the battery, it doesn't work with a new one in either, or the charger, because the notebook works with it being in the power socket.
I highly doubt it's a software issue, it isn't charging when it's off (correct me if I am wrong).
Does it mean it's the motherboard?
What would you do /tpg/?

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I've broken my T420.
I think the mobo died.
Should I get T430 and swap the keyboard, or just get a new T420?
Or buy brand new laptop, is there any hope for the thinkpads to return to its former glory?

Yo all,

I'm selling my gaming PC and getting a ThinkPad for university work and programming primarily.

My budget will be £600, although I'd obviously like to spend less.

>>58371341
>Or buy brand new laptop, is there any hope for the thinkpads to return to its former glory?


good luck trying to get anywhere in lenovo.com in the first place.

i just got back from there and am unable to buy a laptop.

any alternatives?

>>58371577
gtfo yo

>>58371341
>posting semen angels

>>58364207
Anything. Debian unstable is a good distro. Just be sure to throw the iwlwifi deb package on a seperate flash drive, since Debian doesn't include the nonfree driver for the the wifi card.

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I'm looking for a good laptop for photo editing, mostly for lightroom and photoshop, some drawing maybe.
I lay my eyes on W701ds or rMBP 2015 15" and I'm quite indecisive about that
anyone here has a W701ds?

>>58371852
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh! help me

>>58367302
the ones they already have

>>58369218
>>58369232
>>58369983
>lenovo looks to see if you recell the battery
I thought that only happend with the x230 and later?

>>58358992

[Remove]

>>58372708
It might be only on certain models or newer ones. I haven't had to recell mine. W541 here.

>>58372750
Yeah, I think it's only newer models considering the amount of (non-lenovo) chink batteries on the market

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Do to my job I need to use several different types of internal HDD and transfer files from and to it.
Would it be better getting on of these?
http://a.co/2z8ncAN
Or get this http://a.co/931Suvw
Using T420 BTW.
Though I've heard that small HDDs are more prone to fail.

>>58372799
story / source on that pic?

>>58372807
Fake snapchat

>>58372816
thank you for breaking my heart

my trackpoint is SOOOOOOOOOO slow
ughhhhh

Is envy a business laptop ?

Thinking of buying hp envy
15.6" 1080p ips
256 m.2 ssd, i5-7200, 8gb ddr4

price: 757 eur

Main uses: software dev, media

Is that a good choice ?

Link to manufacturers page:
http://store.hp.com/UKStore/Merch/Product.aspx?id=Z5D37EA&opt=ABU&sel=NTB

>>58373036
avoid anything with hp logo

>>58373080
what would you recommend then ?

>>58373098
t420

>>58373098
thinkpad t500 series if you want a 15 inch display

>>58369526
shiit

>>58368206
It's right there above the numpad.

>tfw lenovo will never not fall for the trackpad meme
>tfw no modern 700c
I swear to god Trump better fuck 'em up good

>>58373036
>hp envy
>not an elitebook/zbook
i guess you enjoy having computers designed to fail after a few years

>>58372307
the 701ds is an extremely rare laptop and its hardware (1st gen i7) is old compared to newer computers. I'd go for an W541 or a P50

>>58369658
>I hate spanish keyboards
why?

>>58366350
>idle is 33C, load 74C
i have a t430 too but the iGPU variant and i can't get less than 38°C at idle. How did you do it?
(my "idle" was a TTY session without GUI)

>>58373446
Because
>you almost never get to buy a mechanical keyboard with spanish layout
>when linux makes retard things I almost always have to use US keyboard
>i'm proficient in US international
Mostly that. Also I don't like ISO enter.

What adapter would I need to be able to use an HDMI cable to my TV from my Thinkpad?

>>58373552
VGA to HDMI adapter

>>58373552
Mini DisplayPort (miniDP) to HDMI

>>58373616
>Mini
What? I though think pad used DisplayPort?

>>58373683
yeah, T420, X220 and X230 tablet use the full sized DP ports, T430 and newer laptops use the mini ones.

>>58373098
Dell Latitude series is great. Lenovo Thinkpads are fine too but there are certain models and years to avoid unless you have the time and will to change the trackpad and deal with the horrible keyboard and mediocre screen.

>>58373436
I've got a W541 Haswell i7 and it runs a touch better than 4690k desktop setup @stock. Mine is of course OC'ed to 4.6. It's pretty baller though.

>>58369658
Lel, I found that the T520 in sale here has a fucking 1280x720 panel. And a bad trackpad.
The fucker is asking almost 400 Trump dollars for it.
There's other guy selling a T530 with better screen and working trackpad for only 330. I can get it lower even.
Is there keyboard mod for T530?

>>58373616
>>58373881
I have w541 also but am having problems with mDP to HDMI.
I have mDP to HDMI active adapter, and when i plug into TV it causes computer to flash to black and back to desktop. It keeps doing this loop untill I unplug. This same setup works with a 2012 Macbook Air (gf's).

Ive done all updates and played with all settings i could find.

>>58373990
Pls help.

>>58373990
Did you try a different cable? I've had issues with older HDMI cables with CEC and some audio issues with soundbars on cables made prior to HDMI 1.4 spec.

>>58373436
I have w541. You need dock to be able to take advantage of Quadro card.

>>58373990
it could be an adapter problem. ThinkPads just require a passive DP to HDMI adapter because the GPU can drive the DP port in HDMI mode (hence the two plus signs near the port, they're dual mode).
Does the adapter work with another TV? it could also be the TV

>>58374021
It was branded as a 4k/2K HDMI with Ethernet. Ive tried another generic cord and it didnt work either.

>>58374030
It could also just be the cable itself. I've had CEC/ARC issues with older cables pre 1.4 spec HDMI. It goes all wonky or won't work at all.

>>58374047
Adapter then perhaps as >>58374030 pointed out. Hmm.

>>58374030
I will try a passive adapter. They are cheap. Its what I was going to originally buy but thought 4k required active. Thanks.

>>58373704
dp port to hdmi adapter works with audio?

>copped a w500 for a decent price
>arrives in state as of early this morning
>it fucking snowed, and there's inches of it on the ground
>in VA
FUCK. I won't be seeing that thing for a week.

>>58372307
The rMBP if you have to choose absolutely between two. W701 have a Arrendale i7. You want Sandy Bridge at least.
But if you can, you should get a P70.

>>58374071
so you need 4K output? i remember seeing some DP to HDMI 2.0 adapters on Amazon

>>58374089
yep, sometimes you need to enable the digital audio out in the sound control panel. Make sure to select that output as the default so all your applications will sound through the TV/projector

>>58374100
Yea Fedex sent me a notice about delays due to Memphis hub being all snowy. That was yesterday. Thankfully right now I'm looking out my window and it's 72 degrees out.

>>58374105
>>58374129
>tfw my item's coming from an amazon warehouse in PA
>It'll be here tommorow

>>58374105
Yes I am trying to hook laptop to 4k television in livingroom. Looks like I need this instead...amazon /Cable-Matters-DisplayPort-Thunderbolt-Compatible/dp/B00K0UDJFI

I have the active model currently

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what went wrong?

>>58374105
Thanks!

For any casual X220 users: windows 10 runs really nice after you deleted all the spyware and trashware crap. go to privacytools.io for relevant programs and scripts to remove shit.

>>58374220
Every company trying to be apple and failing at it.

>>58374241
You do realize that Microsoft remotely undoes all of that right? RIGHT??

>>58374299
Not true. Just downloaded OOSU10 and monitor changes after updates. At most 1-2 options change upon installation of updates once a month

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>>58374317
Thanks pajeet

>>58374317
>>58374241
>g... guys
>windows is alright if you just fuck around in half the window's registry
god, winshills are the worst
>hurr, durr, muh computer literacy

>>58374356
>muh bolted-togheter-with-duct-tape kike-initated pirated unix ;_;

So what are some approved monitors I can use with my x220. I'd prefer a thinkvision but can't find much relevant information on all the models. No adapters, just want to use the displayport.

>>58374356
>Using one program
>Difficult
Better than wincuck 7

>>58374496
>having to install a program
>not using the built in text editor to configure you're operating system

>>58374529
>edit a consistent and centralized database with a program
>have to edit almost 500 text files with different formats and options

>>58374529
>Complain about extensive personal modification being necessary
>Nah just use one program
>Complain about not extensively personally modifying it yourself

Any good/decent/nice/worthwhile ChinkPad ultrabooks with caddy support?

>>58374708
>*nix is highly cumstomizable and works ootb
>windows is a byzantine mess and comes preloaded with spyware and bloat
hmmmm

>>58374762
x220

>>58374787
Not an argument
Of course Linux is better than Windows, especially on ThinkPads, but windows 10 is not difficult to manage and much better than Windows 7 for anything remotely modern

>>58374247
>failing
I wouldn't be too mad if any PC manufacturer actually succeeded at making a competitor for the 12" macbook
It's really nice, hardware wise
no clue about the OS though

>>58375202
The OS is nice, but is slowly being rotten by the attention that Tim Cuck is giving to muh iToys.

>>58374356
hey
>>58374241 here
I said casual users for a reason. I run GNU/Linux on my own x220.
I just wanted to say that a x220 is really nice even if you run the modern w10 on it. I did it for my gf since her old laptop broke and I was surprised how fast and nice the experience is with all the shit deleted. Of course I will need to check it regulary to remove the new shit, but if you want to introduce thinkpads to people without much computer experience it's a great introduction.

>>58375222
>tim cook
wouldn't it be tragic if all the engines fell off of the jet that jony Ive, Phil Shiller, and Tim Cook were having a drunken orgy in, and Craig Federighi was put in charge of the company?
I would be devastated

>>58375260
I just wanted to rant against win10
It has about as much botnet as Win7, but I've unironically heard the "just edit all the registry, hurr durr" defense before
sorry for getting triggered

We really need a computer repair general.
And since this is the closest here is it.

Will a Dell Vostro 14 3458 screen panel fit inside a Dell Inspiron 14 3458 or should i try my lick with the 3451 screen?

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Is there any chance of a Thinkpad that can take on the new Dell XPS 15?

>15,6" display in 14" body
>4 core / 8 threads cpu
>gtx1050
>400 nits, 98% sRGB, 1:1500 contras, mate display
>32GB ram

:(

>>58375360
Different target audience m8. Maybe Lenovo will release some Yogabook or something to compete in the macbook-alternative market, but it won't be a Thinkpad

>>58375273
Apple needs to be closed. They were Jobs and Jobs is dead.

>>58375461
Yeah, god forbid somebody who cares about macs be put in charge of applel

>>58375559
They just need to open source their OS.

>>58375601
open source botnet?

>>58375609
>muh botnet

>>58373490
My idle would be win7 x64 sitting on my table. Fan is clean, generous application of AS5 and thats it. Cant think of anything else.

>>58365776
When I upgrade my t60 with an ssd, I think I'll give it a go! Thanks anon.

>>58375635
>muh cuckOS

>>58375800
>muh balkanized kike-instigated open source turd ;_;

>>58375360
And it will break and be shit in 2 years

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>>58361323
up

Should I buy the t430 or the t420
Is the Keyboard really worth it on the 420?

>>58374802

How much does this actually weigh with a/the battery? My t420i is heavier than a fucking brick nowadays...

>>58376805
>Is the Keyboard really worth it on the 420?
not in 2017

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rate my set up /tpg/

>>58376845
You mean because I can put in the old keyboard?

>>58376896
Yep, xx20 is too old. Buy a something newer

What is the cheapest thinkpad with HDMI?

>>58376955
X20 series are still good.

>>58363968
This 100%. I went from 90c+ under load on my x201t to 70c under the same load.

>>58376856
what the fuck is the orange thing?

>>58377210
I think it's a human male

>>58376896
Yes, all the *20 aren't worth it and at the moment never will be
They're just slow 16:9 Lenovo machines, and the *30 series are all compatible with the old keyboards

>>58376955
>>58377329
>still trying to trick idiots into believing that ivy bridge is noticeably faster than sandy
I want T430 sellers to leave.

>>58377291
(You)
I shouldnt have fallen for such a trick

>>58377379
It runs cooler and uses less power, too

They were understandably desirable when they were significantly cheaper but now they aren't

>>58376821
It weighs like a 12.5" ultrabook
Just do pushups every day

>>58377626
Pushups are a meme.
Pull ups are far better

>>58377929
Do both, get a full workout

>>58378041
This

>>58368525
Yes I have, got a top spec'd one for $1145 in 2012 I think...
Eventually got a dock for it, but had to sell it, & it sold it for $950 beginning last year.
>https://imgur.com/a/I4J8a

>>58378041
push ups hurt my girly wirsts

How is W520 doing for CAD related tasks? The one I'm looking at seems like a steal: i7 2920xm, quadro 2000m, fhd, ssd for 330$. I'm looking to convert my gf to thinkpads, she is currently running a generic Asus laptop with 4 gen i5 and 940m.

>>58378402
The Thinkpad will be worse performing than the Asus

>>58377329
Bull. My 420 flies after upgrading ram and SSD.

>>58378361
Ignore you're wrists

How do i switch around the left and right mouse buttons on my thinkpad? using xfce if that makes a difference

>>58371291
Which Windows?
I know Windows 10 has a disable autorotate in the software, but I'm not sure about the pointing stick

>>58378781
pointing device, input device or mouse settings
can't remember what it's called in xfce

>>58374980
How is it better than Windows 7? Can you specify what it does besides the forced DX12 meme?

>>58378402
If you want CAD related get a W541 with the quadro. It's a beefy machine. The adpater is 170w though and can't be had for super cheap so don't scrimp on it.