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what ancient outdated standard just needs to fucking die? My vote is VGA connectors.
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PS2 ports
COM ports
Serial ports
Firewire ports
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>>58340072
who the fuck is still using firewire lmao
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>>58340037
Microsoft Windows
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Bluetooth
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>>58340109
>>58340141
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>>58340037
USB-A
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>>58340156
well, Type C has only been around what, a year?
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>>58340102
>taking issue with the most modern technology on the list
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>>58340037
ISO90001
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>>58340177
firewire was basically replaced by USB2 ages ago
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>>58340037
VGA is still more reliable than anything else.
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>>58340037
3.5mm jack
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>>58340219
Apple pls go
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Escape Keys

Who even uses those.
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>>58340037
Eliminate all ports and plugs. Everything should be wireless.
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>>58340037
DVI / PS2 / VGA

>>58340072
COM and Serial are the same thing, and used for micro-controller development, at least for the moment.
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>>58340037
Android
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>>58340037
all of em

wait,

none of em, keep em all
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Local HDs and SSDs.
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>>58340183
>never used firewire 800
spotted the poor
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>>58340037
Ext SATA

This never works right and hot swap my ass!
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>>58340146
>see me
what did she say im dying for a greentext
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>>58340037
HOW THE FUCK WILL I CONNECT A PROJECTOR
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>>58340330
with HDMI or DP like a normal person.
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>>58340146
A friendly reminder that Richard Stallman, wouldn't recommend anyone to install Gentoo.

>I have a low opinion of Gentoo GNU/Linux.
>Gentoo is a GNU/Linux distribution, but its developers don't recognize this; they call it "Gentoo Linux". That means they are treating me and the GNU Project disresepectfully.
>More importantly, Gentoo steers the user towards nonfree programs, which is why it is not one of our recognized free distros.
>See the GNU distros list for the distros that I do recommend. https://www.gnu.org/distros/free-distros.html
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>>58340330
WiFi.
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Runcom
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>>58340355
enjoy your dongle
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>>58340383
[triggered]
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>>58340183
USB2 was a paper tiger which couldn't even beat the original Firewire in practice.
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Full nkey r/o, no polling, no delay, ps2 is just far superior compared to usb in every way for keyboards. Mouse on the other hand not at all. If I'm shopping for a mobo and it doesn't have PS2 I'm not buying that mobo.
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>>58340461
Was close enough that it made FW400 basically irrelevant. Nobody except us /g/entoomen would care about a 5MB/s difference.
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>>58340203
Yeah, I still prefer it to HDMI
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>>58340461
USB2 was fast enough for most things and didn't have any issues with hot plugging
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>>58340102

Audio and video people mostly. Lot of highend equipment ( talking $1000 and up - used... ) uses FireWire, hardware is still good.

It's getting phased out for USB now but there were quite a few advantages to FireWire for low latency applications.

>>58340072

I don't see the big deal with having a rs232 port on a ATX Mobo. Space isn't exactly a big deal. I can survive with a header on the Mobo though. Serial is pretty handy when you need it.

Adoption of the (Cisco?) Rj45 standard serial would be cool though. Rs232 ports and cables are kinda bulky.

Ps2 ports are sorta eh. I don't really care. Only advantage is one can still get ps2 keyboards for systems that don't boot USB drivers fast enough to get into BIOS.

Most of these ports could really be delegates to headers on mobos let people who need them connect em up.
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>>58340037
Linux.

It's responsible for more security flaws than Windows or Java.
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>>58340547
shit my Z97 board has a fucking LPT header on it for some reason
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>>58340508
Alot of older HDTVs can only look decent with the proper colors and actual panel resolution over VGA. So yeah fuck HDMI
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>>58340500
This guy knows what's up.
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>>58340072
>PS2 ports
yes. replaced by USB
>COM ports
yes. only used for industrial shit nowadays
>Serial ports
no. muh networking/laboratory equipment config
>Firewire ports
yes. DMA a shit
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>>58340504
>>58340524
Except Firewire 400 came out before USB2 and every camcorder company had already adopted it. They literally promised 200Mbit over what USB2 actually produced. Had Intel and Microsoft not backed it, it would have been DOA.
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>>58340600
>COM ports
>yes
>Serial ports
>no
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>>58340672
That's the thing, FW was alright for devices like camcorders and audio interfaces, but it was too expensive for shit like mice, which doomed it.
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>>58340600
>he thinks COM and Serial ports are different
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>>58340672
> require repeaters every 10 feet
> expecting professional adoption
Go fuck yourself fw
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>>58340789
>he thinks USB signal doesn't degrade with cable length
Okay pleb
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>>58340102
audio interfaces
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VGA = VESA = TI industry
HDMI = Hollywood = Jews
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>>58340307
Nothing because it's fake you idiot
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PCI slots.

There hasn't been a reason to buy a PCI card in the last 10 years at least.
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>>58341863
You are profoundly retarded. Please kill yourself.
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>>58340037
>>58341007
VGA is more relevant in 2017 than HDMI, which is literally just Displayport but worse
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>>58341918
Sound Cards, Raid Cards, NICs, USB expansion cards all use PCIe now.

There is no reason to get a PCI card for the regular consumer.
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>>58342019
Yes there is:
If your motherboard only has a PCI slot available, you buy a PCI card to go in. They also tend to be cheaper.
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>>58341863
There's no difference between PCIE 1x and PCI. While I'd get over the complete removal from all motherboards, I still own many PCI cards. I have a PCI ATSC tuner in my computer right now.
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>>58340241
>Everything should be prone to interference and signal loss
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>>58340242
>DVI/VGA
Only if they replace it with DP and not cucked HDMI trash

>PS2
Only mouse ports, keyboard/combo ports are fine until they make something else interrupt-based and NKRO capable without resorting to dirty hacks.
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>>58340072
I still use a PS/2 keyboard in 2017
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>>58340254
this desu. i want a new video card but they all have dvi D only. and a hdmi to vga brings me lag.
also ps/2 ports for the masterrace keyboard and mouse.!!!
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>>58342140
I use it simply because I like my old keyboard. And my 2014 mobo still has two ps/2 ports, so why not? I'm not interested in leet gaymur mice and keyboards.
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I'd replace power cables with some bigger version of USB-c.
>>58340363
>>Gentoo is a GNU/Linux distribution, but its developers don't recognize this; they call it "Gentoo Linux". That means they are treating me and the GNU Project disresepectfully.
Told you the gnu/linux crap is just Stallman being butthurt over people not mentioning GNU and his contributions enough.
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>>58340037
VGA is still a great connector
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>>58342064
There are still new mainstream boards with PCI and VGA coming out with CES 2017
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>>58342231
>and a hdmi to vga brings me lag
then use DVI -> VGA
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>>58342315
oh wait. i missed that D
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>>58340037
>>58340072
>>58340156
>>58340219
>>58340238
>>58340242
>>58340580
>>58340600
>>58341863
>>58341966
>>58342019
>I don't use that port with my gay men PC or applel hardware so it needs to be removed
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>>58340072
PS/2 is still extremely useful for recovering from errors. It lets you jump into BIOS/UEFI settings before most of the system devices are bootstrapped, so it can get around a bunch of errors that happen before USB initialization.
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usb 2 and usb 3
apple did the right thing, they were courageous

hdmi
DP is royalty free and does a better job than hdmi
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>>58340037
No I want it to be molex. I want it replaced with a smaller version of the standard power supply connectors (more than a few variants that fit this description exist already).

Issue I have with molex is it can be made to too cheap a standard (Chinese made no fucks given standard) and cause the typical hardware gore and it is normal to have to reseat the connector a few times for the thing to connect properly.
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>>58342381
if HDMI was replaced by Displayport everywhere it would be an objective improvement for everyone
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The world is still littered with projectors that only have VGA cables available.
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>>58342478
Sure, but almost all displays still only ship VGA and HDMI. Since my laptop only has DP and VGA, I had to use VGA to connect it. And to tell you the truth, the fullHD image looks completely fine.
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>>58342478
Everyone except production companies, becuase HDCP.
HDCP is literally the only reason HDMI is still a thing.
>muh monies
>muh corporate overlords
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btw, while we're talking about VGA:
best graphics card with DVI-I port?
i was looking at that meme GTX Titan X but maybe there's something better (cheaper)
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>>58342478
>having to use more ports for audio
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>>58342569
what?
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>>58340037
S/PDIF is two channel trash and needs to die.
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>>58342531
HDCP 2.0 has been in Displayport since 1.2

HDMI 2.0 is the most useless display interface of all time
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>>58342561
Maxwell was the last GPU to use DVI-I

I'll be keeping my 980ti forever because of this
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>>58342387
I liked the AT way of dealing with this type of stuff. Instead of PCI cards, they should put all of this shit on headers and let the end user decide what they want exposed. Make standard ATX I/O plates to be sold separately with punchout tins for what the user wants to use. The I/O could be cabled to the back then screwed into the backplate. You could get rid of everything you don't use.
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>>58342664
i'd like to get something worth of my CRT and i've been wondering what. Titan X looks the best but that price...
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>>58342664
yeah but there's HDMI to VGA converters, what makes DVI-I so much better that you're willing to meme yourself?
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>>58340072
some mobos don't like USB keyboards/mouses so if you need to reinstall system, you're fucked
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>>58342676
That would be more expensive and non-standard, which is why it never took off, but I can see the benefits. Just, most people wouldn't pay for it.

>>58342664
? DVI has been superceded by displayport, and can be adapted down from DP. Why would you need it on the card?
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>>58342745
those motherboards need to go into the /trash/ where they belong
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>>58342741
>HDMI to VGA
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>>58342751
He's talking about DVI-I specifically, which outputs an analog signal for VGA
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>>58342753
Tell that to my OS, which locks up the USB ports.
PS/2 is based on system interrupts, so cannot be affected by other devices and will never become unresponsive.
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>>58342758
https://www.amazon.ca/Neewer-HDMI-VGA-Adapter-Converter/dp/B007KFVQXI
8 moose bucks senpai, what's stopping you?
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>>58342741
>>58342782
Most HDMI to VGA converters have shit DACs can't do 2048x1536 or anything over 1920x1200 really
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>>58342781
Your OS is shit.
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>>58342789
So is your taste in I/O.
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>>58342782
you obviously have never seen the quality of this shit otherwise you wouldn't try to shill it
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>>58342751
>>58342741
there's quality loss when going from HDMI/DP to VGA

VGA can normally support up to 2048x1536@60hz

with adapters it can only do 1920x1440@60hz
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>>58342803
VGA actually technically supports up to 85Hz at QXGA. If there are any video cards or monitors that ever supported that is a different matter.
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>>58342803
>VGA can normally support up to 2048x1536@60hz
>60hz
more actually
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>>58342834
Most high end CRTs can do QXGA. Almost all modern graphics cards have RAMDACS that can support QXGA at 85hz
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>>58342803
>VGA can normally support up to 2048x1536
It's analog why could it not go higher than that?
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>>58342857
>>58342834
true, thanks for the correction

I have a monitor that can do 1900 x 1440 @ 73Hz, but not if I had to use a DP or HDMi Adapter
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>>58342908
cause DVI replaced it about 7 years before that resolution became needed
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>>58342908
it can. it's just that nobody made any higer standard
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>>58342908
There's no point. Above that (at 30Hz), the electron beam starts to lag, and you see the line scanning.
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>>58342741
>digital to analog
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>>58343000
>mfw that stock photo
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>>58343000
It's doing that on the GPU anyway, why not in an adapter?
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>niggers are actually shilling vga in 2017
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>>58342978
nonsense. you can go higher than that
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>>58340037
i hope that it does not. i dont want to buy new monitors yet.
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>>58343000
It is possible via ACTIVE adapter not passive
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>>58343029
stop
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>>58343033
Eh, I've got a couple 4:3 monitors that need it, so it's useful to have around.
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9 pin serial
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>>58343045
And it sucks. You have never tried one, right?
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>>58343033
>he will never know the feeling of using BNC
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>>58340290
This is the only one I agree with.

>>58342231
>a hdmi to vga brings me lag
Post proofs, I use an HDMI to VGA and I have no lag issues whatsoever
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>>58340037
.gifs (when used as videos)
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>this thread
TRIGGERED
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Function keys. Nobody ever used them. Thank god Apple finally got rid of that crap.
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>>58343147
Are you mentally retarded or just a fucking idiot?
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>>58343140
It's on the order of a few ms, it's more important if you're using a CRT.
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>>58343179
Are you an iOS user?
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>>58343168
>rj11
>in a computer
I never understood this
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>>58343225
When dialup was a thing, you didn't need to have a modem.
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>>58343225
>he will never know the feel of using the internet without a modem
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>>58343179
We have webms now. The world shouldn't have to deal with a garbage tier overbloated excuse for video delivery because your shitty meme phone still hasn't gotten with the times yet.
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>>58340102
My sony handycam still has firewire.
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>>58343225
You can use it with hyperterminal to make internet over telephone connections.
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>>58340102

My audio interface uses firewire. Shit works well too. The only way I'm going to replace it will be with a Digi003 console or an M-Audio projectmix i/o, both of which are firewire.
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>>58342664
Wait a minute...
Is the R9 380X (sapphire) the best AMD GPU with DVI-I?
I can't fine anything 290+ that has DVI-D...
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>>58343320
Why not Asynchronous USB?
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>>58343320

I have a firewire TC Konnekt. Can't see why I can't just pickup a cheap PCI-E Firewire expansion card when I upgrade mobo though
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>>58343225
I bet you don't use this port at all nor will you even recognize it
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>>58343441
I used one of these a few months back to connect a DVD player to my TV. I was running out of RCA connectors.
Still useful in the year 2016.
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>>58343441
Nope :/
Spoonfeed, what is that?
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>>58343441
Looks like S-video but has extra pins. TV-out.
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parallel ports and some d-sub
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>>58343478
9-pin s-vid. Video Input+Output.
I assume it's only for video out, and the connector is just for compatibility.
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>>58342247
>I'm not interested in leet gaymur mice and keyboards.
Actually the leetest keyboards and mice use ps/2 ports since it allows for "better" performance
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>>58343506
It does have less latency than USB, as it runs on system interrupts rather than bus polling, but it's not noticeable.
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>>58343522
It's why I put it in quotes. The difference is so small I doubt it has actually ever contributed to their gaming
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>>58343506
>the leetest keyboards and mice use ps/2 ports
Post ONE (1) leet gay man mouse and ONE (1) leet gay man keyboard that aren't USB
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i love how people buy this whole keyboard meme industry
like holy shit, it's a fucking keyboard. what's there to improve?
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>>58343502
Most of those ports like that I've seen on a laptop go to a breakout cable that gives out composite video and RCA audio, hence the extra pins. can just be used as S-video aswell
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>>58343584
t. phoneposter
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>>58343612
my Nokia 3310 doesn't have internet connection
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>>58343469
this grinds my nerves a bit. Which is why I never bother looking for tv's because I don't have connectors for them (most laptops I own have VGA)

Here is specs for this machine
A fucking beast ;)
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>>58343408

You pretty much have to. I'm not 100% sure, but I don't think many mobos with built-in firewire are using the TI chipset. I have a 3 port PCI firewire card I use with my interface.
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>>58342231
>he dont know about DVI-I
LMAO
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>>58343340

because I already have this interface and the other two I posted really have no peer among USB interfaces.
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>>58343641
T30 can have 2gb RAM
Still useful with a lightweight distro
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>>58343584
Sounds like you've never used a decent mechanical keyboard for any length of time.
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>>58343729
i have never used any keyboard other than mechanical ones
go figures
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>>58343580
Huh, I guess you're right. All I'm seeing now is usb to ps/2 adapters included. Ah well, the fact people are purchasing them with adapters tells you the meme is still alive and well.
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>>58340037
FUCK NO
HDMI IS CANCER IT FRIED MY TV AND COMPUTER TWICE
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>>58343767
There are alternatives to hdmi you know. Also I wonder how you managed to do that since I and many others have been using hdmi for years.
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>>58343715
Unless its Ram slots are broken

This computer as of its state right now, it is a project which requires a quite a bit of repair to even boot sadly enough.
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>>58343782
thunderbolt ?
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>>58343782
I literally just plugged in
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>>58343798
>i was only pretending to be retarded
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DVI
VGA
FireWire
PS/2
USB 2.0/1.1
MicroUSB/MiniUSB
ExpressCard
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>>58343855
see >>58342381
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>>58343855
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>>58342518
Not all, only the shit ones. Stop buying the cheap shit.
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>>58343855
USB2.0 is required for installing Windows 7.
Micro USB is lower profile than USB-C
MiniUSB is more durable than USB-C
ExpressCard is a 1x PCIe lane to an external peripheral.
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>>58343943
I guess if you define "cheap shit" as anything under 1440p you would be right
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>>58342279
Here here.
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>>58340508
If you are into competitive games, vga gives you less then 1ms delay compared to 4 on hdmi, definitly on 120+ hz monitors its better to have vga then hdmi.
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>>58343641
>Customer keeps defective drive
What did they mean by this?
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>>58344198
how about DVI?
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>>58343815
Plug&Fry. New standard.
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>Wanting to get rid of serial/COM ports
You must be either insane or out of touch, because COM ports are the fucking bane of UNIX existence. Just like fucking politics, we would be nowhere without COM terminals. They're used to do the most helpful debugging processes of errors and shitloads of stuff when you're a TRUE hobbyist.

Trying to ignore COM terminals in 2016 is like wanting to deny facts and truth. I disapprove of anybody who says serial should be obsolete.
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>>58344347
So Plug & Pray is finally done for?
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>>58340072
>PS2
>needs to die
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>>58343234
>>58343257
Actually you still needed a modem, it was just an internal with dialup.
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>>58340037
IPv4
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>>58344444
woah nice numbers
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>>58340500
my keyboard is usb connected, has nkey rollover and 1000hz polling rate
isn't this good enough?
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>>58344261
DVI-I
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>>58342231
the gtx 980Ti has DVI-I
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>>58344444
well, it was a bit different kind of modem
and no need for routers
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VGA is the only analog signal display cable with high market share
Nah, it's still useful.
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>>58344524
It might have been my mistake

DVI-I indeed because it can provide both analog and digital signal
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>>58343082
>got monitor with bnc
>blue connector has contact problem
>have to use vga
just
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>>58344364
I haven't seen COM ports for long.
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>>58343325
fucking AMD forgot to put analog output to 290 and 390
that's why I changed from the 390 to a gtx 980
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so guys:
Titan X or 980ti?
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>>58340307
>she
Way to assume their gender, shitlord.
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>>58344364
>2016
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>>58344364
It's 2017, Mr Time Traveler
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>>58344662
no you idiot
DVI-I is analog signal
DVI-D is digital signal
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>>58343140
>I use an HDMI to VGA and I have no lag issues whatsoever

maybe you don't have issues, but HDMI to VGA must inherently take time as it is not a passive conversion.
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>>58344773
The DVI connector on a device is given one of three names, depending on which signals it implements:

DVI-I (integrated, combines digital and analog in the same connector; digital may be single or dual link)
DVI-D (digital only, single link or dual link)
DVI-A (analog only)

sauce: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Digital_Visual_Interface
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>>58344698
I work in graphics industry and all our machines for printing or what not use them for error checking ,maintenance exc.
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>>58344816
It sure is negligible time though
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>>58344826
>source: wikipedia
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>>58344905
I should have known better
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>>58344110
MicroUSB fucking sucks because it's weak and unidirectional. MiniUSB is a dead meme. USB C is objectively better than USB A. It's larger profile than MicroUSB because it's intended to replace both mobile and desktop connectors.
>>
>>58344773
DVI-I is analong AND digital
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>>58344984
>analong
I'd rather use VGA than a homosexual connection.
>>
>>58340072
PS2 is great because it has almost no latency, no restriction on key-rollover (though it can be done with USB), and plus, it works before the BIOS/UEFI is loaded. The more direct access to the device the better...

As for serial... Come on man. Everyone that uses their computer to make money still uses serial. You can take out-of-band management from my cold lifeless hands.

>muh dongles
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>>58340203
>>58340591
>>58340508

And NVIDIA killed analog outputs from their newest gpus i sent my 980ti for repair and they replaced it with 1070 now i cant use my crts ffs.
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>>58345335
Does the 1070 have a DVI? If so just get one of these.
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>>58345335
>replaced it with 1070
That's not a comparable model, you need to sue.
>>
>>58344951
MicroUSB is great for interfacing with REALLY slim devices.
Other than that, C is better.

>>58345459
you best be joking nigga
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>>58345572
But I'm not.
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>>58345655
1070 is DCI-D, not A, or I
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>>58345335
sue them, demand your old card back or make them do a one of a kind 1070 with a DVI-I output just for you
>>
>>58345701
They'll probably send a converter.
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>>58345709
tell them that the converter is crap, tell them why and demand a refund/change/custom build
>>
>>58345679
Noted. My experience with DVI thus far has been limited to adapting VGA cables and gpus no newer than a 480 and a 560ti.
>>
>>58344228
Many organizations require that storage media be retained after use, even if it fails. When they purchase new equipment, have to specify that, and usually pay a small fee, in exchange for the vendor not requiring you to return the bad drive for warranty replacement.
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>>58345003
Top kek
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>>58345003
it's an-a-long
the rarely used 'an hero" type of connector with a long cable that you could plug to your neighbour's monitor and see his paywall porn for free
>>
>>58344140
These days, yes
>>
>>58342381
>Apple
>non-hdmi
It's not like iMacs are all-in-ones and Mac Pros almost exclusively use HDMI
>>
How is VGA ancient? Literally every single one of my lecturers who needs to plug in a laptop to a projector uses VGA.

Projectors all have HDMI or VGA connections.

DVI-whatever is what needs to fucking die already. Fucking Nvidia.
>>
>This whole thread is full of gaymers and retards

Wew lads... neo /g/ is shit
>>
>>58340371
and be replaced with what exactly?
I can't hear you over muh QAM-256 modulation
>>
>>58340037
My mid-2011 Mac Mini has HDMI/Thunderbolt.
Seems other makers lack courage. Like with parallel, serial, floppy and earphone ports.
>>
>>58346774
>Literally every single one of my lecturers who needs to plug in a laptop to a projector uses VGA.
How are things at A&M?
>>
By far the best bait thread in weeks
>>
>>58347430
>3.5mm
Yes... because it makes sense to have a shitty DAC in every pair of headphones that I own, or have a shitty adapter that can't get clean power from the USB power line...
>>
>>58340072
>PS2 ports

Its like you enjoy ghosting in your keyboard.
>>
>>58340037
Linux
>>
>>58347832
>Linux
>Standard
HAHAAAHAHAHAHAHA
Look at him!
Look at him and laugh!

Linux doesn't have standards, it's a hodgepodge mess, at least the distro's are.
That's what is so great about it though, you get to choose what parts of the pie you get to eat.
>>
>>58340461
And yet here we are, the firewire is completely obsolete while USB is everywhere.
>>
>>58347814
>2017
>ghosting

It's like you're a retard that use shit keyboards.
>>
>>58340102
>implying usb 2.0 has better stability and effective speeds than IEEE1394
>>
>actually using USB keyboards
wew
>>
>>58347989
Who the fuck is still using USB 2.0?
>>
>>58343340
>usb
enjoy your overhead and unstable latencies. IEEE1394 was superior in this aspect
>>
>>58348040
>unstable latencies
Yes, because Asynchronous cares about latency...
>>
>>58343225
it's an effective way to do to out-of-band management
>>
>>58343140
>I use an HDMI to VGA and I have no lag issues whatsoever
good for you
>>
MOLEX Plugs need to die off.
>>
>>58348103
MOLEX should be left for its simplicity
also SATA is meant to be only temporary solution
>>
>>58348103
Nah, you just need to stop buying cheap chinese crap with bad tolerances, or rewire your own. Good MOLEX connectors are easy to disconnect.
>>
>>58348103
You need to die off, retard.
>>
>>58348136
Wish sata drives still came with molex plugs. Old WD drive from 2005 has molex on it. Beats shitty molex to sata adapters
>>
Infrared
Literally what the fuck is that used for?
>>
>>58340566
Mr. Nadella, your presence is requested in conference room F.
>>
>>58348175
they key is to use a good MOLEX to SATA adapter
>>
>>58348198
TV remotes, you fucking retard.
>>
>>58344444
Checked
>>
>>58340037
What do you want to replace it with?
>>
>>58340037
everything except USB-C
>>
SMTP/MIME
Fuck this legacy garbage.
>>
>>58348422
Bluetooth
There is literally no reason wireless display technology should not be a thing in 2017
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>>5834813
>>58348141
>>58348149

Superior plug
>>
http
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>>58340260
You'll need to prey it from my cold dead hands.
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>>58348467
You truly deserve to be buried alive in a coffin.
>>
>>58348478
i haven't seen a more retarded plug
>data one is smaller than the power one
i don't even
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>>58348456
How's that new Touch Bar™ working for you? Has it frozen up when you needed to use the ESC key yet?
>>
>>58348613
Good point.

>>58348478
Also what the fuck is the need for that many conductors for only 2 voltages.
>>
>>58344444
witnessed
>>
>>58348663
>Also what the fuck is the need for that many conductors for only 2 voltages.

So it can go to eleven
>>
>>58348692
thing that will never happen
>>
>>58340141
Alternative?
>>
>>58348799
maybe wifi direct
>>
>>58340037
Hard drives.
>>
>>58340037
Computers.
>>
>>58340238
Clearly doesn't use Vim, the dominant editor.
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>>58348467
>>
>>58340600
Serial is COM you retard lmao
>>
i think /g/ should come up with something so stupid that apple has to make it
>>
>>58352048
easy: wireless analog
>>
>>58352048
wireless extension cables
>>
>>58352052
>>58352070
Dongles wireless-to-wireless
>>
>>58340037

What's wrong with VGA? There are adapters
>>
>>58352444
Newer graphics cards doesn't support them, but vitually EVERY SINGLE monitor, projector, etc. has a VGA connector. It's the lowest common denominator.

While it does its job, and isn't going away, DisplayPort is superior in many regards:
> Can be made really small
> Instead of fastening shit with screws, you just have to push a button to unfasten it
> Digital signal
> Handles loads of information

And most importantly:
> Can pretend to be a VGA, DVI, etc. connector so you only need a passive converter to use it with old stuff.

It truly is the best Enterprise Cable[tm].
I can use it with all the new stuff, and there are easy to use, proven adaptors for all the old stuff.

It's also free to implment as opposed to HDMI.
>>
>>58340176
So what?
>>
>>58352070
That's actually not a bad idea though.
If you could do it properly, you'd be able to have a wireless dock, so to speak.

> Arrive home from hard day at the Starbucks writing the next great American Novel Blogpost.
> Put the MacBook Pro down at the wireless charging station.
> Monitor, keyboard and Apple[tm] Trackpad[tm] etc. hooks up to it immediately through the dock
> Can shitpost on /lgbt/ without hooking up to a dock.

It would if nothing else, make for a great commercial.

You all know the macfags would buy that shit.
>>
>>58345335
Don't listen to this retard:
>>58345459

Use DisplayPort -> VGA. You get a real VGA signal and no fucking retardation.
>>
>>58343289
sony handycam

Mah Nigga
>>
>>58352538
>retardation
Elaborate. I've had no issues with either of my monitors on vga cables with dvi adapters, and I've been doing it this way since I started using video cards that no longer offered vga ports.
>>
>>58348478
Well at least if the connector dies you have a backup connector.
>>
>>58352729

tl;dr: DP -> VGA always works. DVI -> VGA not so much.

It's not that you're retarded for wanting to use the worthless POS port known as DVI, it's that the whole DVI specification is filled with retardation.

First off, there's three different DVI ports.
> DVI-A is analogue only,
You probably don't have one of these. It's the most retarded cable imaginable. It's VGA with a different form factor for no fucking reason.

> DVI-D
It's like VGA, but DIGITAL!
And if you go dual-link, you can have 1440p at 60hz!
Cool beans, until you realize that you need an active converter because fuck you.

> DVI-I
Has both digital and analogue RGB signals. So it has both a VGA signal and the HDMI image signal because reasons.

The whole getup is retarded, and the fact that you have to ogle your pins to find out if you need a passive (it has 4 pinholes around the bit minus), or an active (it doesn't) converter just goes to show how retarded this shit was.

It was meant to replace the VGA cable, but HDMI came along and did DVI better, AND let you put audio through it so you could use it for your TV.

And then there's the question of whether or not your converter will work. Because some of them just fail to do so.

Meanwhile, getting a DP-VGA converter is always a passive converter, and it will always work.

If you now, in 2017, need to get a converter to VGA, just go DP -> VGA and save yourself hassle. DVI is dead too anyway.
>>
>>58343174
triggered
>>
>>58352479
>>58352538
>>58352907
>DP
>analog in any way
please kys
>>
>>58344150
>Here here.
This guy serious?
>>
>>58344364
>COM ports are the fucking bane of UNIX existence

https://en.oxforddictionaries.com/definition/bane
>>
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>>58349863
>he didn't remap escape to a non-retarded key combination ages ago
>>
>>58348198
Agreed. Why do (premium) TV/Settop boxes/media center manufactures still use IR when RF is available
>Comfy on couch
>having to point your remote at the TV
>not just press a button and it magically working
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>>58340241
I spot the apple fagot
>>
>>58340037
>Buy 70 inch VIZIO tv
>has VGA instead of DVI port to plug in PC
fucking why?????????
>>
>>58340037
1366*768
>>
>>58353162
Power and interference
>>
>>58340072
>COM Port

Someone has never been to a datacenter before
>>
>>58353346
Meeting rooms where they still use business class notebooks which have VGA still
>>
>>58340037
SLI
+fire
>>
wired mouse
>>
>>58353108
I use three-monitor setup with two miniDP-to-VGA adapters. Couldn't do that with digital-only ports like HDMI and DVI.
>>
>>58340260
if you run 10gbps lines to every house, sure
>>
>>58353557
DP is not even a bit analog, you fucking moron. it doesn't make a fucking difference whether it's converted from DP, HDMI or whatever
>>
>>58344110
>USB2.0 is required for installing Windows 7

You can actually inject USB3.0 drivers to the installation medium but you need an existing install.
>>
>>58353108
Check the specs, retard.
DP is designed so that it can send VGA signals.
It's part of the spec.
>>
>>58353746
show where does the spec say such thing or admit your fucking ignorance
>>
>>58353564
>ftth
>expanding under Dear Leader Trump
Yea ok
>>
>>58340037
3.5mm audio jacks. I mean they rattle and buzz and kill that shit already. They might've okay in the 80s, but cmon its 2017
>>
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This gook standard.

A D-Terminal connector carries a component video signal (YPBPR). A device with a D5 connector can understand and display the following video signals:
D1 480i (525i): 720 × 480 interlaced
D2 480p (525p): 720 × 480 progressive
D3 1080i (1125i): 1920 × 1080 interlaced
D4 720p (750p): 1280 × 720 progressive
D5 1080p (1125p): 1920 × 1080 progressive

Just bury it.
>>
>>58353630
Do you remember when one had to inject sata drivers to XP install media?, as XP only supported ide natively

Pepperidge farm remembers
>>
>>58344500
its absolutely good enough, but ps2 doesn't poll your cpu while usb does. Some have also found using a 1000hz mouse/kb combo can cause mouse input delay issues in some cases. If your kb came with a usb/ps2 adapter and you have ps2 on your mobo just use it.
>>
>>58344742
way to be a fucking cuck, faggot
>>
>>58352479

yeah i use that passive converter thing since monitor only has VGA but gfx is DVI
>>
basically everything should be done with a lan cable
>>
SCART
Composite Video
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