What went wrong

>>58337387
Over-hyping their products.

>>58337387
Letting pajeet in

>>58337387
buying ATI

>>58337387
Not doing a fucking live stream of their latest and greatest at one of the biggest shows of the year.

No one outside of CES what they're showing off.

>>58337387

JUST

>>58337387

Intel paying off OEMs not to use the suoerior product in laptops.

Nvidia stealing hoardes of data and IP from former AMD employees.

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>>58337487
If it's not ready for a public showcase then I don't fucking care anymore. Ryzen is supposed to come out in Q1 and Vega shouldn't be too far off.

nvidia literally blew their brains out on stage a few hours ago and AMD proceeds to choke like every time in the last 10 years.

A retarded marketing department that doesn't realize that making a countdown that doesn't actually countdown to anything exciting makes you look like a jackass

Other than that not much, Zen and Vega seem like they're gonna be good.

>>58337387
what went right.

>>58337466
dubs doesnt lie

>nvidia stumbles and offers AMD an open goal at CES
>AMD just looks at the ball and decides to wait to see if conditions improve

>>58337589
this

sad thing is they gave the /v/ kids so much ammo

it's going to be at least two weeks of non-stop poo poo shitposting

intel and nvidia being anti-competitive swines
>https://www.wired.com/2009/12/ftc-sues-intel-for-anti-competitive-practices/
>https://techreport.com/news/8547/does-intel-compiler-cripple-amd-performance
>http://www.agner.org/optimize/blog/read.php?i=49#49
>http://www.pcworld.com/article/3086895/hardware/eu-court-has-intel-inside-appealing-14-billion-antitrust-fine.html
>http://www.anandtech.com/show/2443
>http://hothardware.com/news/new-nvidia-drivers-disable-physx-if-a-nonnvidia-gpu-is-detected
>http://www.xbitlabs.com/news/multimedia/display/20100119134616_AMD_Accuses_Nvidia_of_Disabling_Multi_Core_CPU_Support_in_PhysX_API.html
>http://hothardware.com/news/indepth-analysis-of-dx11-crysis-shows-highly-questionable-tessellation-usage
>https://www.cryengine.com/community/viewtopic.php?f=355&t=80565
>https://www.techpowerup.com/165707/tsmc-gives-nvidia-priority-for-28-nm-manufacturing
>https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2013-06-10/ex-amd-workers-at-nvidia-lose-bid-to-end-secrets-lawsuit
>http://www.forbes.com/sites/jasonevangelho/2014/05/26/why-watch-dogs-is-bad-news-for-amd-users-and-potentially-the-entire-pc-gaming-ecosystem/

>>58337753
Neither Intel nor nVidia forced AMD to do a countdown to literally nothing.

>>58337781
How do you they didn't?

>>58337753
>BAWWWWW AYYYMD CAN'T DO WRONG
This is why everyone makes fun of amdrones.

>>58337823
So you're saying that intel bribing OEMs to not use AMD CPUs in their pre-builts, which hurt AMD the most, isn't actually intel's fault, but AMD's?

The rest is also AMD's fault? Could you please go more in-depth to explain how exactly?

>>58337781
nvidia would have done the exact same thing and nobody would have given a fuck

3/4ths of this board is /v/ fanboy trash, deal with it

>>58337854
See: >>58337781

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>>58337753
MOM NVIDIA WONT LET ME PLAY WITH THE PHYSX

>>58337863
Do you want me to feed (You)s to you, or what, tripfag?

Here;
>>58337863
>>58337863
>>58337863


Don't spend them all in one place!

(If you want an answer: That's not what this thread is about, and the countdown lead to youtube videos, which isn't "literally nothing", but what else to expect from a retard like you, throwing 'literally' everywhere.)

>>58337858
FYI , the professional market, where the real money lies, is dominated by Nvidia, and even more so in the future with all the cooperation of companies like Tesla.

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>>58337501
POO

>>58337858
When nVidia's CEO held up a mock card with woodscrews, we laughed at nVidia for a YEAR!

>>58337877
The result is that game developers can't release games with any real use of physx so their games remain compatible with AMD's hardware.
Keeping physX to themselves (note they did not invent it, they bought out the company so they could use it as a marketing gimmick) means that physX will never be a thing.

>>58337891
You're just embarrassing yourself at this point and your new is showing. Just gtfo

>>58337973
I feel like you're not happy, anon. Someone hurt you? Don't worry, it'll be alright.

>>58337912
YOU CAN TORTURE ME BUT YOU'LL NEVER MAKE ME USE THE LOO

>>58337387
>What went wrong
AMD got x86 license and now this shit everywhere

>>58337997
amd created the 64bit extension to x86 lol

>>58337997
Hmm I wonder why the architecture is called AMD64.
Not like AMD themselves created it or anything...

>>58337913
sure, but at the time, AMD was just better.

immediately after Fermi, Nvidia got the tech lead and hasn't given it up since. so needless to say public perception is strongly in their favor now.

and fanboys will treat any minor hurdle like a fucking disaster if it means their favorite console, I mean GPU manufacturer wins

>>58337922
If Physx will never be a thing why do you care so much about it?

sour grapes

>>58337997
I understand that you're 16 and don't remember K8. but the only reason Intel is good now is because AMD was better.

you only need to look at Babby Lake to see how desperately the industry needs Zen to be good.

>>58337387
>Vega releases
>15% faster than a 1080 for 12 months more waiting
>Raja swamped by sex offers from all the rejoicing AMDfriends
>after a month Nvidia introduces Volta
>back to square one

>>58338023
Because I like using it on my nvidia card, and wished games could make better use of it without reducing their sales by AMD marketshare%

>>58338032
t. 17 year old who can google

>>58338039
It's barely faster than 1070.

>>58338032
Yes, the golden age of 2002 - 2006.
I liked my Athlon XP and Athlon 64 a lot, but let's not pretend AMD was really anything more than a second rate CPU vendor.

>>58338045
Good thing, you can just do that if you have an Nvidia GPU.

>>58338053
[citation needed]

>>58338065
All the videos. It's hilarious. And i though Nvidia was hilarious.

>>58338053
Not really, judging by the couple demos it's roughly on the 1080 level, a bit ahead even. And the final silicon will be faster yet.
Still, if the big chip can't at the very least match a TXP it's a disappointment in my book, since it took them so long.

>>58338039
more like
>Vega releases
>great 1070/1080 counterparts
>bad DX11 good DX12/Vulkan as fucking always
>no answer to 1080 Ti and Titan X
>it's OK I guess
>Volta comes out, Vega prices plummet, same fucking status quo again

>>58338080
Where the fuck are benchmarks or ryzen prices or anthing. It's fucking CES, they should have done at least anything.

>>58338096
If they can only offer 1080 level of performance it will be a disaster launch.

>>58338080
>roughly on the 1080 level
1080 doesn't dip to 36fps in 4k doom which is already amd favoured game

>>58338078
>GPU throttles itself when action is not going on to reduce energy consumption
>a feature available on all GCN GPUs since driver 16.12.1
>HAHAHAAAHAH XD LOOK IT DROPS FPS! LITERALY FINISHED AND BANKRUPT LOOOL KEK

wew my lad up senpai

>>58338106
>expecting competent marketing from AMD instead of the usual shitflinging cringefest
You set yourself for disappointment.

>>58338108
Why? If it is priced competitively, it will sell well.

But it is AMD, and their marketing department's collective IQ is comparable to a peanut.

I don't get why people are so pissed

lmfao

>>58338126
No, everything is a fucking cringefest with qualcomm topping everyone. The point is they showed nothing.

>>58338108
y'all keep saying this shit with zero explanation as to why. very few people buy HEDT shit.

sure it's a marketing advantage if you can claim you have the best flagship shit but in the end people are going to compare the products they can afford. Polaris is doing much better than previous GCN gens and that's because it shits on lower end Pascal.

>>58338131
To clarify - it will be really disappointing in my eyes, because of the 10 - 12 month delay over Pascal.
Merely offering an alternative with roughly the same level of performance and a bit lower price is not enough after so much time. The 300 series did that and while it sold decently it wasn't exactly a stellar succes.
I just don't think they can afford to perpetually be number two.

>>58338156
>it shits on lower end Pascal
[citation needed]

>>58338065
http://techreport.com/review/31224/the-curtain-comes-up-on-amd-vega-architecture/4
>By my rough estimate, that puts the early Vega card inside somewhere between the performance of a GTX 1070 and a GTX 1080 in Doom
You can laugh now

>>58338110
nah it dips to 40, that's pretty swell ain't it

nevermind the fact that it gets 20 less average FPS

>>58338178
It means nothing and we can throw shit at each other until the actual benchmarks arrive.

>>58338110
You're talking about a millisecond frame-dip on an engineering sample with likely very rough drivers. Besides, the demo of Battlefront shows it's at least on par with a 1080 too.

>>58338186
if it costs 400jewbucks it's bretty gud

>>58337387
>What went wrong
they pooed in it

>>58338199
Sorry anon, I was just excited today about finally hearing some news about Vega and once again nothing.
Excuse me if I'm a bit more shitposty today.

>>58338210
Everyone waited something that''s actually BETTER than nvidia. Market desperately needs competition, never were gaymen cards so overcosted. And, well, nothing happened.

>>58338203
>Besides, the demo of Battlefront shows it's at least on par with a 1080 too.

yeah, the """demo""" of someone running around an empty server shows it's on par with a 1080.

>>58338178
every review released after november

>>58338231
kek

>>58338186
I will wait for proper benches.

>>58338164
More $$$ is made in the $200-$300 region than in the higher brackets, as less people can afford the high end stuff. If AMD wins the middle tiers, it does not matter if they do not have the "top tier" crown.


...but again, it is AMD. Chimpanzees laugh at the stupidity of AMD's marketing department.

>>58337387
Intel scumbag tactics. Really. The amount of shit Intel has done and keeps doing makes me puke.

And people buying Intel even when AMD was the superior product back then.

>>58337387
Marketing, as always for the past 15 years.
Seriously, someone needs to fire the whole marketing department or whoever is interfering with their decision making.
There is no fucking way any competent marketing person voluntarily allows this kind of campaign.

>>58338242
hi, pukefriend

>>58338240
Yeah, we need competition.
This one site with PC builds in increments is starting to look like an Intel/Nvidia advertisement.

>>58337781
Ah wait, so you guys are talking about the event?, i thought this thread was about the company.

>>58338273
hihi

>>58338019
>immediately after Fermi
Kepler and GCN came out in the same generation, and they were both relatively close in performance and power consumption.
What really set Nvidia ahead was Maxwell.

>>58338285
>Yeah, we need competition.
We do. Look at Kaby Lake.

>>58338325
yeah but at the time Nvidia's drivers were just much better, which tipped the scales in their favor.

>>58338412
You mean Skylake: 2017 edition?

>>58338452
Please do not call it Skylake. Cannot you see that it has 1% extra performance!?!?!? And in some cases, up to 2%!

>>58338486
I'm sorry Mr. Krzanich, please don't optimize my family.

>>58338164
even if amd are better then nvidia, even when they were, no one fucking bought them, so why the fuck would you put out a niche?

Honestly, I would be shocked if this wasn't the last big gpu they make, and instead go full speed ahead to mcm gpus.

>>58338228
Keep moving those goalposts my man: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eNTAMApSlz4

Endor, the same map used in the Vega test. In that video the game frequently dipping below 60 fps even when there's not much happening around him. He also isn't using FXAA, which the Vega setup was.

>>58337408
FPBP , this is the fan's fault though. AMD promises X and people go around claiming it's going to be XYZ, then at release they cry that AMD didn't deliver whilst they get memed to death by nvidia fans. I'm pretty glad I got a 1050 instead of a 460 since AMD on linux a shit.

>>58338540
AMD promised something and showed nothing? It's literally worse than nvidia meme conference.

>>58338448
no, honestly the whole driver thing has been kind of bullshit for the longest time.
no games ever failed to work, and the only real sticking point was dual gpu solutions that had to wait for profiles.
If a game was fundamentally broken, it was fixed in short order

Had a 4850 computer, a 5770 and a 280x and have yet to really experiance a game that is truely fuced by drivers.

>>58338553
I know, but IMO AMD just needs to stay alive and something will actually go their some day.
I think nvidia is tackling a very niche market for a huge payoff as well, but I'm not a businessman.

>>58338583
>I think nvidia is tackling a very niche market for a huge payoff as well
Cars? Google will murder them the very second they try to pull proprietary bullshit or patent scamming.

>>58338600
I mean, you know google isn't developing their own hardware right? (don't quote me on this) They can benefit from the memes nvidia is selling if they are better than what Chrysler is providing for them. I agree that Google will break nvidia in half if they try scamming them

>>58338023
because games don't use it due to intel and amd not being supported

>>58338061
would be amazing if games actually used it.

-------

you want to know the funny thing, at this point nvidia could release an open source amd compatibility for it, nvidia is so far ahead in market share, amd is not growing in the gamer demo, and they could use physx as a 'look at our cards doing it so much better' approach, because if everyone could use it, it would be a feal feature to sell their cards... why don't they?

Im betting money they have test beds with amd cards to see if it would work, and nvidia comes up on the shit end of the stick.

I cant really think of any other reason as its only relegated to tech demos anymore.

>>58338645
My point is, that nvidia has to come with open standard for ONCE if they want to get into cars.

>>58338662
Agreed, if nvidia started opensourcing their drivers and software suites the world would be a better place.

>>58338673
And they need to spot gimping their older fucking cards. Poor 780/780ti users.

>>58338553
honestly them showing nothing would be better then showing facebook integration with new hardware with the ability to triangulate where you are in your home along with renting gaming hardware for obscene prices.

amd showing nothing honestly isn't that bad in comparison.

>>58338583
>something will actually go their some day.

this aint no anime neet

>>58338692
>renting gaming hardware for obscene prices.
That was new levels of hilarious. Truly The Way It's Meant To Be Jewed.

>>58338513

>september 12th

what does a 4 month old benchmark have to do with it? the game has been updated and optimized multiple times since then.

christ, at least try kid.

>>58338728
No? It's EAfront, not Battlefield 1.

>>58338691
I know right? Isn't the 290x destroying the 780ti in every way possible?
>>58338703
I mean, they just have to be half successful at signing deals with console makers until they can appeal the PC market. Apple uses AMD as well if I'm not wrong.

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=411923

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=398858

http://forums.guru3d.com/showthread.php?t=404125


absolute garbage drivers

>>58338553
>I expected that they'd host a live stream from Vegas at 6 AM but they didn't deliver
>BAAAAAAW

>>58337387

Female Asian CEO and really, REALLY sordid marketing

Jews don't like the "people first, profits will follow" motto

>>58338809
Nothing wrong with Su. Amd needs to gas their marketing team again though.

>>58338766
>>58338583
>but I'm not a businessman.
>but I'm not a businessman.
>but I'm not a businessman.

>>58338728
None of their driver releases since September mention any changes regarding Battlefront. It's been over a fucking year since release, there's hasn't been any major performance improvements in the last 4 months. But by all means, continue being retarded.

>>58338849
Am I though? I'm just speculating

>>58338662
Nvidia is already getting into cars

http://www.nvidia.ca/object/drive-px.html

>>58339110
And it's proprietary shit.

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>>58337387
Marketing Bulldozer as a consumer cpu.

Is it worth waiting for Vega and GTX 1080 Ti at this point? Planning to do a new build since this computer is a shit and old.

I don't mind waiting 3-4 months, but I don't want to wait much longer than that but I don't want to waste money on something that will be obsolete within a month.

>>58338743
>>58338871

3 patches since september 12th.

http://starwars.ea.com/starwars/battlefront/forums/discussion/59651/star-wars-battlefront-game-update-10-4-ps4-pc-x1
http://starwars.ea.com/starwars/battlefront/forums/discussion/59029/star-wars-battlefront-patch-9-28-update-and-patch-notes-ps4-pc-x1
http://starwars.ea.com/starwars/battlefront/forums/discussion/57103/star-wars-battlefront-death-star-patch-notes-ps4-pc-x1

2 listing stability improvements, 1 major update.

like i said, you gotta at least try.

>>58338412
I don't get the rabid hate for Kaby. If a 7700k can indeed average 5GHz+ OC compared to like ~4.5GHz on Skylel and Haslel, it's probably going to be a bigger jump in practical performance than Haslel > Skylel with the same clock but 5% better IPC.

Why have the countdown ended at 6am pacific? If you knew that, why would you think they would have a live stream at 6 am during CES?

>>58339191
You need to do a magical trick called delidding to have even remotely decent temps when OCing.

>>58337387
nothing yet

they'll be in business long after you and your family are dead.

>>58339157
I feel like 1080 Ti may not even be a thing unless NVIDIA needs it to be. As in, if Vega ends up competing around GTX 1080 level (instead of Titan XP level) they might not even release a 1080 Ti and would go straight to Volta.

>>58339191
>5GHz+
>kaby
kekekekeke

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>>58337387

nothing

>>58339174
>"stability"

That's an incredibly vague description that could mean anything from "the game doesn't crash as often" to "your fps should be slightly higher". Doesn't tell me much. Not really the trump card you think it is.

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>>58337753
>new-nvidia-drivers-disable-physx-if-a-nonnvidia-gpu-is-detected

>nvidia drivers
>non-nvidia gpu

>>58339249
>>58339289
I've seen a few reviews reporting those kinds of numbers, I take it they're inaccurate?

>>58339372
It's in situations where you're using the Nvidia card specifically just for Physx and a different brand GPU for the actual rendering.

>>58337387
mexican ceo happened.
build that wall

>>58339373
Babylake has hands down the worst TIM intel managed to shit out. You absolutely need to delid it to not let it burn a hole through your mobo when OCing.

>>58339372
>i only read headlines: the post

nVidia bought Ageia, made PhysX proprietary and only available on their cards. So people with Radeon cards went out and bought a cheap nVidia card to be able to use PhysX. nVidia of course doesn't like it when people buy any but their cards.
So nVidia once again goes out of their way to disable PhysX if you have anything but nVidia.

>>58339418
Does it? Pretty shit then. I'm probably only upgrading from my Haslel when I can get something with more cores and at least the same single-threaded performance.

>>58339455
Correction:

People with Radeon cards used the cheap nVidia card ONLY for PhysX, it didn't need to be powerful or anything. The Radeon card was still the one doing all the rendering. Basically you had 2 graphics cards, one used the 'normal' way, to render vidya, and the other solely to simulate PhysX.
This doesn't make people jump the ship and stop buying competitor's products, so nVidia disables PhysX completely if you have competitor's GPU installed.

>>58339457
You'd better wait for Ryzen. At least ayymd still solders their fucking CPUs.

AMD fucked me, I used to play altis life on the daily using a toaster laptop, quad core processor with dual Radeon intergrated graphics.

Averaging 17fps on standard settings:( it sucked but I had grown used to it)

After blatantly ignoring a driver update for my intergrated graphics I decided to see if an update may do a thing or two to my fps, this is after doing everything else I could think of.

Catalyst control centre took me to a driver install page, I install correct drivers but there's an error.. This error leaves me with completely dis functional graphics and in turn, a non playable game.

After many hours of installing, reinstalling, uninstalling, reinstalling etc I finally fixed the issue... Of my non functioning graphics, the driver update was still there.

So I decided to leave the update knowing the hell it had caused me and went back on my trusted altis.

This is only to find that somewhere in the chaos the window key bind, which is critical to the game had been unbinded. So, I deleted and redownloaded, which should work? Nope.
So I reinstalled the game completely, surely that will work? Nope.

So my issue is not to do with the game, nor the game server.. It's the fucking drivers.

I'm not going through the hassle again, time to get a PC, fuck you AMD I'm getting an intel and GeForce combo

>>58339486
I am, it's not like there is anything worth buying anyway. I'd like at least 32 PCIe 3.0 lanes too, the "cheapest" Intel option would be X99 with a 5930K, which is hardly cheap and probably won't hit 4.7GHz like my quad core Haslel unless I get quite lucky.

>>58339513
you people disgust me

>>58339330
/thread

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>>58339330
delete this!

>>58337387
>n-next year we're gonna blow intel and nvidia away, just you wait! anyday now!
>marketers and fanboys building hype
>thing comes out
>it's a piece of shit
>"actually it was meant to be a piece of shit and I'm glad they are giving us affordable pieces of shit in the first place, nobody said it would have been good and anyone who thought differently is clearly stupid", said marketer and fanboying pajeets
>n-next year we're gonna blow intel and nvidia away, just you wait! anyday now!
>

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>>58337441
>There ain't no Poo on my Intel CPU

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>AMD is garbage
>Intel is jew garbage
>Nvidia is jew garbage
>Microsoft, Applel, HP, Dell, Lenovo, Every major PC manufacturer is now garbage

it's actually frightening how many nvidia/intel shills are around today.

>>58337387
Cores

>>58337753
Holy shit the obsession. I knew amd owners was the minority but I didn't know they're all conspiracy theorists too.

>>58342045
I swear they started paying people to shit up social media.

>>58338186
So if it's getting about ~1070 performance in doom which we all know plays well on amd gpu, this means in dx11 games and non amd sponsored dx12 games it will be significantly slower.

>>58342045
>Intel 10:1 amd
>nvidia 8:1 amd

Gee, I wonder why there are more intel/nvidia users than amd users in discussion threads.

This just goes to show the state of /g/. If a thread isn't totally dominated by amd users it's considered a shill thread.

Funny how amd owners are the massive minority yet all you see are them shilling in youtube comments and on forums everywhere. Just goes to show how cancerous the fanbase is. They'd rather shit post on 4chan and YouTube comments than play actual games.

>>58342088
Conspiracy? Just exactly how retarded are you?
>Intel bribes OEMs
>Intel goes to court
>Intel pays 1.4 billion fine to AMD
define: conspiracy theory
>a belief that some covert but influential organization is responsible for an unexplained event.
>a belief
>unexplained event

>>58342282
>i-It's all a conspiracy against amd
>t-they're trying to stop the beast that is amd because they're scared of amd having global domination!

This is what you believe, right? It's what adoredTV believes at least.

>>58342371
Thanks for putting words in my mouth.

>anti-competitive practices = conspiracy against the victim
That is THE definition of conspiracy, anon.