Nvidia is bankrupt and finished

poor volta

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>>58334258
>slower than a 6 month old GTX1080
>about to get shit on by the 1080Ti
>bankrupt

have fun with your RX490
AKA 2x RX470 stuffed into a single chip.

>>58333333

next rebrand, why hype?

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Skynet confirmed for running on Vega

>>58334258
what time is the presentation and how can I watch it ??

>>58334319
http://ve.ga/

AYYMD HOUSEFIRES

AYYMD IS FINISHED & BANKRUPT

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>>58334306
>rebrand

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>>58334319
http://ve.ga

Leaked presentation:
http://videocardz.com/65406/exclusive-amd-vega-presentation

>>58334319
They'll preview the architecture a litle, no actual gaymen GPUs will be shown.

>>58334328
>>58334344
thanks

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>>58334332
>GPU for the Immersive Era
I wonder where I heard that before...

>>58334258

Well, since they sell the best performing GPUs i suspect they aren't

>>58334344

OMG!!! GRAPHS with LINES pointing UP!!

NVIDJEWS SOOO DONE AND GASSED NAO!!

No Zen prices will be announced, no gaymen Vega cards will be revealed and yet another shit CES.

3:57 h

>>58334346
they had ryzen+vega playing battlefront apparently outperforming the 1080, why wouldn't they show it again?

>>58334258
>memecardz.com

Find a more credible source, faggot.

>>58334344

how do these fuckers get any info if they are always leaking shit

>>58334559
They had Vega shown on their last livestream, if there was anything else leaked by now we would've known.

That slideshow is both hyping and disappointing.
On the first hand, it shows plenty of great architectural improvement which will result in a great GPU, although I'm fairly sure they overhype a lot the memory efficiency requirements we have for typical consumer load, it's definitely more oriented toward pro user. On the other hand, it's basically a bunch of nothing as far as actual information go, since there's no actual GPU announced, no card announcement of any kind, so basically it's exactly what was written on the tin, an architecture preview.

But at that point I'm really eager for more than that, and I'd love to see an actual GPU, and not in a framerate capped game.

>>58334584
Probably because their source knows that they won't get caught, so they won't mind much leaking stuff. That, and the fact that they usually leak positive stuff, so I guess AMD doesn't give too much of a damn.

>>58334584
they always leak shit 2-3 hours before...

which is why no one cares

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the madman he actually did it..
check the geometry throughout

>>58334573
Poo in the loo, Currytech fag.

>Thinks Nvidia could die
>Nvidia just announced GeForce Now which will make more money PER HOUR than AMD can make in a decade.

who wants to take a bet we won't see this gpu till march, AT LEAST

>>58334620
thats a pretty safe bet tho

>>58334620
It'll launch just like how Polaris did.

>>58334613
what does this mean?

>>58334258
>he didnt download robinhood and buy $AMD

Its like you dont enjoy making passive money

>>58334346
>>58334586
They've got Vega demos running live on the show floor.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4YvbwAHJrc

Guessing by the numbers it's faster than what 4096shaers@1500Mhz (Fury X at 1500Mhz) would suggest, so their architecture improvements seem to be doing something.

>>58334616
>Dissing anandtech

Fite me irl mate

>>58334698
basicly vega has finally the advantage over the gameworks shit now..

they will force all of the workloads through their new "ncu's" plus having a bigger and faster primitive rasterizer and a deeper and better color compression(those 2 were the main areas that nvidia had an advantage and plus the inability of amd to fully use their shaders )
and a safe bet given the configuration of the chip the cards will be on 1.5ghz base clock

>>58334747
>thinking I was dissing Anandtech
>not even thinking about WTFtech
I don't know whether I should give you a pat on the back or if I should be yelling at you.

>>58334724
You'll see some gains just from increased number of ROPs anyways.

>>58334698
intel and novidia ded

>>58334751
samefag

videocardz is pointing that the card on the 4k video is the small vega with the 8gb hbm2

So frustrating we have to wait so long for it to come out

Intel and Nvidia r&d must have been getting bored

>>58334766
I honestly forgot about them, they're banned everywhere and Reddit and not even retards go on that site

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>>58334258
The real interesting bits (with end-note info analyzed):
>Draw Stream Binning is based on AMD's recent patent published in Dec 2016. It's a hybrid Tile-based Rasterization. In effect, it will boost Rasterization performance as well as reduce bandwidth requirements. This feature is great for both performance & efficiency and it's what makes Maxwell/Pascal so good vs Kepler/GCN.
>NCU confirmed new Compute Units (CU). Not based on GCN as the end-notes are distinctly bringing up the fact that GCN is composed of CUs with 64 Shaders (4x 16 ALU SIMDs). NCU is not going with this config anymore. The config is flexible and per their patents, it can be 1x 16 ALU + 3-5 x 8/4/2 ALU SIMDs & 2x Scalar ALU (twice as many as GCN, really fast for certain ops). From the looks of their diagram, I would guess, twice the # of CUs, hence, twice the Ops per clock when compared to GCN (which AMD is comparing against Fiji/Fury X). This means per CU, ALU count will drop to 32. The derived SIMD config will be potentially: 1x 16 ALU & 1x8 & 1x4 & 1x2 + 2 Scalar ALU = 32.

The 512TB virtual address space is more for MI25 and HPC usage, as it can link with Zen for HSA over the entirety of the memory.

The "Render Back Ends are now Clients of the L2 Cache" basically means less trips to and from memory for game engines that use deferred rendering. Bandwidth savings can lead to performance gains and efficiency.

Hopefully some more gameplay demos, a die-shot of Vega so we can see how big it is (~400mm2?)... and potentially release info during the presentation. This is just a slide-deck, what AMD says will be equally important.

One more thing..
>New Geometry Engine. Compared to GCN in Fury X, the Geo Engines can do 4x polygons per clock. Vega can do up to 11x polygon per clock, a very nice boost.

>>58334782
Typical AMD, only a bunch of useless buzzwords

>>58334613
>>58334344
>>58334258
>NDA ends in 3 hours
Wow, it's fucking nothing.

>>58334698
The front end of the GPU among other things contains the bits that process geometry. Polygons. The types of information that tessellation uses. Nvidia GPUs perform so well here because they have more dedicated hardware for it, and AMD has historically been lacking in this area.

AMD is basically saying: We tessellation kangz

Still better than nvidia meme presentation with $25 for 20 hours geforce now and fcking audi car

>>58334698
AMD admits Nvidia will always be better

>>58335160
>Typical nvidiot too stupid to understand technical specs

>>58334299
good luck paying $900 for the 1080ti

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>>58335281
Stupid AMD shill

>>58334721
Robinhood is chink shit because they went to China before they went to literally any other first world country. Fuck those pieces of shit.

>>58334782
Hi Pho, you are lost, please return to reddit immediately.

Stream when?

>>58335311
ve.ga

>>58335311
http://ve.ga

2 hours 28 minutes

>>58335311
2.5 hours from when I posted
ve.ga

Chance of Nvidia having a dedicated stream?

>>58335362
They did hours ago. Didn't show 1080Ti or anything remotely interesting.

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>>58335294

Who here shorting $AMD?

So these slides are showing fp8bit quarter precision calculations as well? Get ready for ~50tflop marketing bullshit.

>>58334328
Site down?

>>58335664
Marketing slides bug you so much?

>>58335328
doesn't seem to load for me

fucking pajeet quality

>>58335707
Not really, it's just how clickbait sites are going to spam the fp8 figures improperly.

>>58335775
Don't read clickbait sites?

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>>58335292
>980ti is still 800$ in my country in the current year


fucking kill me already

>>58335292
>good luck paying $900

what

>>58335935
Good goy.

>>58335935
Technically speaking, its the same price on newegg here in the States. They quit making it, supply is gone.

>>58336034
what do you mean rabbi, i don't really have a choice...

>>58335296
>any other first world country
you make it sound like china was ever part of the first world.

I find it very strange that people keep using the 1st/2nd/3rd world partition. the soviet union dissolved some 25 years ago and people didn't get the memo

>no card launch

Guess I'll have to settle for GeForce Now

Fucking spoilers. I'll wait for the presentation and ignore this thread

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B-b-but isn't AMD for retards?

25 min, GUISE

>>58336025
the epected price of the 1080ti is 850$ minimum.

nvidia is not scared of what amd is doing, or at least weren't, but amd is showing their gpu first again sadly, so nvidia will react to the price like they did last time, only real difference is amd either fired the person leaking or they just have that tight a lip on it this time.

>ve.ga countdown just ended
>no steam

wtf AMD?

ve.ga down

https://www.youtube.com/user/amd/videos

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ve.ga unreachable, just great fucking start already

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ku5OMWYVKSs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TLM3LNpEYXA

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3chULm4glM

where are the specs?

>>58336771
> but i just love beserk mode, UHHHH

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>AMD
>making a countdowntimer for 5 short youtube video's you upload

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WOW ITS FUCKING NOTHING
AMD IS FINISHED

amd did nothign wrogn
amd dod nothign

why do pajeets always ruin everything ?

>>58334613
>check the geometry throughout

> up to 11 polys per clock with 4 geometry engines

typo, or just a weird design?

>>58336828
He looks like poo in the loo Jen Hsun

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DEfj2MRLtA

SHOW STARTS IN 14 MINUTES!!!111eleven

>>58336865
fuck off retard

>>58336771
That dip in fps in their own fucking video.

Did AMD fuck up? Not making a 600mm GPU when your competition is around 400mm? It would be pricier, but the performance would leapfrog the competition.

>>58336865
>Streamed live on Dec 13, 2016

>>58334782
>The "Render Back Ends are now Clients of the L2 Cache"

holy shit, that wasn't already the case?
the entire point of ROPs/RBEs is to sit as close to RAM as possible and to make consolidated writes so they don't steal all the bandwidth.

>>58336886
Nvidia tried making a 600mm^2 GPU.
It's so rare you have to beg Nvidia to be able to buy one and it's $10.000 a pop.

>>58336912
Yeah, but that's a enterprise beast with a shitload of fp64 with nvlink.

>no 1080ti
>No Vega

Fuck CES was so fucking boring

>>58336924
doesn't matter if it's for enterprise or consumers. The chip is just too big to be produced in quantity. It will be another year or two before 600mm^2 chips will be avialable for consumers.

>>58336904
>>The "Render Back Ends are now Clients of the L2 Cache"
>holy shit, that wasn't already the case?
>the entire point of ROPs/RBEs is to sit as close to RAM as possible and to make consolidated writes so they don't steal all the bandwidth.

I guess formerly the memory controllers had shared access between L2 slices and RBEs that did non-coherent writes. Now other shaders can get rasterized output without doing high-level synchronization barriers?

>>58336944
What about Ryzen?

>>58334299

Clock for clock its faster than all the Intel chips tho.

>>58336944
Ever since 2012 there's nothing to get excited about anymore.

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>>58336771
>36fps dip

>>58334469
think it might be the same people??

>>58336771
Pathetic.

>>58337243
A few AM4 boards were shown, that was all.

Still no info on prices or availability.

>>58337284
There's nothing coming up? They only are shooting themselves with the waiting game.

>>58337243
It's going to be shit. AMD is pooified.

>>58334344
What is this graph in relationship to? Is AMD caking on more VRAM (instead of GPU performance) which isn't really necessary and marketing it as some huge leap in performance for their cards?

>>58337284
Over a dozen boards have been shown, including some incredibly high end ones.

>>58337303
CES literally just started, anon.

Fucking hell AMD, just release a chip that performs around the level of a GTX1070.

Fucking stuck with a freesync monitor here.

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CINEMATIC 30FPS GAMING

AYYMDPOOJEETS CONFIRMED ON SUICIDE WATCH

Do you remember in the winter
Back in 2017
When Nvidiots reckoned that AMD's days were over
And their post dripped with liquid hate
Tena reds bit in fashion or so they said
To buy Vega is a crime
They tried to best to kill us
But GCN lives on till the end of time

AMDtards are waiting faggots, forever they are gonna be waiting.

You won't see any Vega cards before autumn.

When will you AMDunces learn?

AMD wouldve had a chance if VEGA would be in stores by today. But they are gonna release it in summer or so when the GTX1080 is almost a year old. Same shit every year

So it's HBM?
I dont get it

>>58337469
Jesus will come before amd makes a competing product

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>>58337371
>stuck with a freesync monitor here

Same. Is there a downside to using GTX 1070 on a freesync monitor? As long as the frames don't drop too much I'll be fine without freesync right?

>>58338093
youre an idiot if you dont use the freesync. its the best part of new display technology.

>>58338155
Bullshit, 144hz and high fps is more than enough.

Freesync/G-Sync is only good for low fps.

Also you can't use ULMB while freesync is active.

>>58338205
>tearing is only a problem a low fps

lol

>ulmb and freesync dont work together

maybe on your shit monitor they dont

Isn't it weird when they watermark
VIDEOCARDZ.COM
Gets in the way of the actual image

>>58338205
If you want to fight screen tearing without any kind of synchronization technology you will need to have a GPU that can render frames well over your refresh rate can display.

>>58338155
>>58338205
>>58339663
So 1070 + 144hz freesync is not a good combo?

>>58340055
Not with a 144hz monitor, no.

>>58338205
If your card is producing frames out od sync with your refresh rate you are literally wasting compute power by produsing them. Free sync helps ate all fps, it is just more noticeable at low fps rates or <100hz.

>>58340055
First 1070 is nvidia. You would need gsync, not AMD freesync. But yes, gync and freesync are basicly necessary on 144hz monitors.

>>58340055
you cant get freesync if your video card is nvidia

>>58340106
>>58340099
>>58340079
but what AMD card can I get that's on par with 1070?

>>58340106
No it's open source it should work

which card should I get then?

>>58340276
2 RX480s in Crossfire

>>58340276
I'd wait for Vega honestly, see if it is as good as they say when it releases. The RX 480 is alright but it's not much better than an R9 390X with the slight benefit of a lower TDP

>>58334469
Will everything be immersed in water? Is it 2012 again?

>>58340276
fury x is pretty much is 1070, beats it in places

>>58340642
Fury X good enough for my 144hz freesync screen?

>taking a stupid video game theory elective
>a bunch of girls taking fashion who don't even take video games are taking it

Why

>>58336771
What the fuck AMD haha

>>58334299
You are joking? They are STILL using AoTS for benchmarks? At this point confirmed that the game is a marketing front for AMD.

>>58342960
It wont use all 144hz, but it will definitely be smooth and the freesync will make that even better.

>>58343690
freesync over 144 fps huh

I sure do love bare GPU dies
I cant wait to upgrade my computer with a fucking chip

Architecture is useless without product

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Why does all this bullshit smell EXACTLY like Bulldozer?
>hurr we invented a new way do overcomplicate something simple so it's better! (In a few extremely specific tasks that don't reflect real-world general performance)

>>58343813
For FPS games - 144 fps and freesync OFF.
Everything else - freesync ON.

>>58343936
That's weird. I thought freesync should be in shooters since those are the ones that actually need high refresh rate.

For other games, like rpgs 60hz is enough. Fighting games are also capped at 60fps anyways