ITS NOT FAIR BROS... 2016 WAS SUPPOSED TO BE THE YEAR OF

It was though

it's always the year of the linux desktop for /g/ types

it will never be the year of the linux desktop for normies

y+1 is always the year of the Linux desktop

>>58331100
Give it time brah

>>58331100
It's the year of TempleOS

>>58331320
Normies don't deserve the joy of Linux and Freedom.

>>58331357
it can never be the year of the linux desktop without normies though. android might be the closest people get to linux for half a decade at least

>>58331100
Post this next year at midnight 2018

>>58331376
Desktops are dead.

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>>58331100
You're joking, right? Microsoft has integrated Ubuntu and bash because they know that their own OS is inadequate 90s garbage underneath that flat, new UI. We now have a way to disable the Intel ME buttnet in newer CPUs which could eventually let us move Libreboot forward to newer x86 hardware. ARM and RISC-V are starting to look like promising alternatives to x86 as well. USB C is replacing lots of proprietary alternatives.

Last year was the great uncucking and you fags didn't even notice.

>>58331394
Non-desktops didn't ever deserve a chance, and have only brought technology to a grinding halt that every normie gets to suck on.

>>58331100
the only thing left is gaming.

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>>58332008
>Disable intel ME
Is this safe to use on my Dell T620 dual socket sandy bridge server and older intel 771 sockets?
I want to be free but don't want to brick anything.

>>58332111
https://github.com/corna/me_cleaner

>>58332008
>inadequate 90s garbage underneath that flat, new UI

the fucking irony of this statement since Linux is based on UNIX concepts that have been around since the 1960s.

>ARM and RISC-V are starting to look like promising alternatives to x86 as well.

ARM is proprietary and the most likely to supplant x86, RISC-V will never be more than an academic curiosity.

>USB C is replacing lots of proprietary alternatives.

Device manufacturers made non-standard USB ports/cables before, that's not changing anytime soon.

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>>58331100
It was, it is and always will be year of Linux desktop. All that matters is that you enjoy using it and make it work better than Winbows 10.

>>58332536
>the fucking irony of this statement since Linux is based on UNIX concepts that have been around since the 1960s.
Silly anon Gnus Not Unix.

>>58331100
For me it's been the year of the linux desktop since 2012.

Don't you get it? Every year is the year of the linux desktop!

>>58332577
That seems pretty easy. It couldn't work better than Windows 7 but at least you guys kept trying.

>>58331100

Well, it was mine. . .

>>58331100
Windows 10 stole 2016 by pissing everyone off.

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>>58331100
>>58331320
>>58331342
>>58331357
>>58331376
>>58332536
>>58332577
>>58334378
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you’re referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I’ve recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.
Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called “Linux”, and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project. There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use.
Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine’s resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called “Linux” distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>58332536
>he fucking irony of this statement since Linux is based on UNIX concepts that have been around since the 1960s.
Except Windows is still stuck in the 90s. GNU/Linux has matured well with things like Systemd which removed the cobbled together inits made of hacker scripts and provides better security. We're getting to a point where GNU/Linux is more than just a hobbyist OS. You can tell because of the massive amounts of salty Windows shills.

>ARM is proprietary and the most likely to supplant x86, RISC-V will never be more than an academic curiosity.
ARM might be proprietary, but that might be a good way to keep it free. You may disagree with this, but I think that it will make sense to most. As far as RISC-V goes, the poo in loo government has adopted it. You may laugh that off, but India is a pretty big country. Soon the Pajeets will be selling you new MacBooks and Chinese cartoons from a RISC-V powered computer.

>Device manufacturers made non-standard USB ports/cables before, that's not changing anytime soon.
The whole point of USB C is that it's a universal standard. I don't think many companies would be foolish enough to throw that away. Not even Apple would buttfuck themselves that hard.

>>58334589
>Except Windows is still stuck in the 90s.
what is project onecore?

>>58334794
>what is project onecore?
It's disgusting, that's what it is.

>>58334401
>Windows 7
>working well
Enjoy no drivers, vulnerabilities, system slowing down after only months of use, long as fuck installation, abandoned OS, paid OS, etc.
It takes much more time tweaking Windows 7 and making it work than normie Linux distros. Then again, so does Windows 10 but at least it will get updates.

>>58334589
>Systemd

lol fuck off

and there STILL isn't a replacement for Xorg, which has been around since the SEVENTIES

>>58331342
(+ y 1)

(format t "Learn some decency, you uncultured swine")

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2017 will be the year of Arch

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>>58334484
No, if it should be ANYTHING like this is rather is Linux/GNU or as I recently calling it Linux + GNU, cause Linux is fuckin essential for running GNU stuff. So there is actually no fuckin point in naming GNU first and make it look superior to linux.
GNU depends on fuckin Linux, not the other way round.

Fuck. I hate this stallman dude so much.

>>58336424
>optical drives
>2017
kek.

Optical drives are only used to replace ancient tape storage for long lasting backups

>>58336435
lol just call it what everyone else it calling it nigger, it reminds me of ancoms getting mad at ancaps because the original anarchists were socialists lmao or classical liberals (libertarians) pissed off at liberals because they stole the name, lol just call it what everyone else is saying

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>>58336462
>He's not implementing scientific terms in his language to look smug as fuck
kek fuckin top

>>58336435
Not true at all. You can run GNU alongside Hurd and other kernels. Linux can easily be replaced.

>>58336508
GNU can be replaced even easier, cause every fuckin hardware dependency is just in that kernel. GNU are just random tools which can be rewritten by any 5yo kid

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>>58336435
>Linux is fuckin essential for running GNU stuff.
https://wiki.debian.org/Debian_GNU/kFreeBSD

Debian GNU/kFreeBSD is a general purpose operating system, an official Debian GNU distribution using the kernel of FreeBSD.

>>58336535
Okay, to be fair, I have to re-compose my statement then: A kernel is fuckin essentially needed to run GNU utils. You can't run GNU shit without a working kernel, but you can run Linux without GNU

>>58336572
https://www.gnu.org/software/hurd/

>>58336595
>sudo apt-get install texlive-full
woops
>It is a collection of servers that run on the Mach microkernel

>>58336618
GNU Mach is also a GNU project
GNU

>>58336623
Yeah, but those are not the GNU utils which was stallfuck talking about in that copy-pasta which gets always posted here

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>>58336637
>NT + Windows userland
Windows
>XNU + OS X userland
OS X
>Linux + Android userland
Android
>Linux + GNU
???

>>58336685
>???
Linux

now go back to >>>/a/ you fat weeb shit or just kys

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>>58336699
But that's inconsequential
If Linux + Android = Android
and NT + Windows = Window
and XNU + OS X = OS X
then Linux + GNU = GNU

>>58336685
GNU/Linux, obviously

>>58336711
So you'd like a fat, autist, communist fuck to promote your OS of choice, which then won't attract normies of any kind?
Wow this sounds like the year of the gnu desktop will soon be there

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>>58336746

>>58332536
>the fucking irony of this statement since Linux is based on UNIX concepts that have been around since the 1960s.
At least UNIX was developed by fucking geniuses over years not some fucking hackjob some kid threw together in 6 weeks.

>>58336508
GNU can be replaced even easier
Look at Android, it uses Linux and not a touch of Ganoo

>>58336435
>cause Linux is fuckin essential for running GNU stuff
What about GNU/Hurd?

>>58336623
>>58336535
>>58336508
never even heard of these
they probably have 20 users in total

>>58336801
Yes, that's why it's called Android.
Android + Linux = Android
GNU + Linux = GNU

>>58336685
>>58336699
>>58336711
>>58336713
why does everyone play along with Stallman's butthurt?
"Gee, i got totally eclipsed by an autistic finn student who had to be taught how to make his kernel, because my proposed kernel wasn't ready in time, and now the OS is known after him.
I know, i will lobby for an cringy and awkard naming of the thing, under the guise of freedoms and technicalities.
In that way, people will be forced to acknowledge i did stuff"

>>58336825
It's basic logic.
Almost nobody calls Windows "NT"
or OS X "XNU"

>>58331100
why does anyone give a shit about what people are using?

Im here posting off Mac from my latest 6700k build and I'm sure all of you think I'm a cuck faggot iToddlet and I literally don't give a flying fuck.

I use it to do actual work, something some of you may have heard of, and it provides the best workflow for my needs.

I don't try and shove it down other peoples throats.

Without Linux, GNU wouldn't have any users besides Stallman and his lackeys

>>58336825
Welcome to /g/, newfag.
Install gentoo over LiGNUx

Normies don't have the time or the patience or even the skillset to install and run Linux. Windows or ios is much simpler for them, I though you of all people would know that.

>>58336899
>put Ubuntu on a USB stick like you would Windows 10 or MacOS
>install it using a GUI like Windows 10 or MacOS

lmao

blame Xorg

>desktop
>2017

>>58336838
os namings have never been consistent.
No one calls amiga clones or haiku BeOS/Amiga, and no one gives a shit.

It's just attention whoring for gnu.

>>58335913
>no drivers
wrong

>vulnerabilities
wrong, still supported

>system slowing down after only months of use
doesn't happen

>long as fuck installation
irrelevant

>abandoned OS
wrong

>paid OS
l o l


linux cucks everyone

>>58331100
Obvious troll thread is obvious

>>58331100
Linux doesnt belong on the desktop. It belongs on the server or embedded stuff.

>>58331100
2016 was the year of 2%
2017 will be the year of 3%
by 2115 we will have achieved complete global saturation

>>58335913
This

Anyone still using Windows 7 is just a contrarian faggot

Windows 10 is still shit, but it's definitely a step up from obsolete Windows 7

>>58337112
>7
>Obsolete
No.
Now explain why it's obsolete

>>58336916
>or just use the OS the computer the normie bought comes with

>>58331100
If apple keeps going like this, the Mac OS users will need a new OS sooner or later.

Most developers who use Mac OS like it because it's a Unix system, so I guess those might come to Linux.
The pleb will probably go to Windows though, because Linux on the desktop is still not normie friendly.

Actually, the developers will probably also gravitate towards Windows 10 now that it has the Linux subsystem...

>>58334589
Nonsense. The Windows Bootloader and Service initialization was just never as fucked up and primitive as Unix's. It never needed fixing.
Like anything else in the Linux world, systemd has also not innovated anything. It's just a copy of better developed init systems like launchd (Mac OS's init daemon)

>>58337020
>only argument is "wrong"
You're retarded. Windows 7 has NO drivers by default just like every version of Windows. You first have to use a separate PC to download ethernet/wifi drivers just so you can begin downloading the other drivers. Linux includes every driver you'd need by default. I'm not even gonna bother replying to the rest because this all gets repeated at least once a week an wincucks can't handle the truth.
I agree it's the last good Windows OS but that doesn't make it less shit.

>>58337215
>If apple keeps going like this, the Mac OS users will need a new OS sooner or later.
this is true, I am currently on a hackintosh and I fear it's the last breath of Mac that I get. I'm not gonna upgrade for at least 3 years but after that I may consider Linux. I have nothing against Linux, I really like Bash terminal.

My main concern is running Microsoft Office which I'm imagining Wine does just fine and Ableton Live which I'm imagining Wine doesn't do fine.

>>58337363
And that's why the Linux subsystem in Windows was such a great move by Microsoft.

Complete compatibility with Windows Programs and close to complete compatibility with Linux programs.

>>58337381
ugh I KNOWWWWW

I just really don't like Windows. I have to deal with it so much at work I only boot it when playing gayms at home

>>58336533
They can both be swapped out, but neither functions on its own. That's the important part, and the reason to call it GNU/Linux. It also gives more info and is less confusing when discussing operating systems, as it rules out stuff like Android and Alpine.

>>58336711
This. I call it GNU pretty often among friends.

>>58331100
But instead it was just building up to 2017, the year of the Linux Desktop

>>58337176
because Microsoft is doing everything it can to make it so. that's what happens when you are at the mercy of your software vendor. Stallman was right etc.

>>58337215
>Actually, the developers will probably also gravitate towards Windows 10 now that it has the Linux subsystem...
actually probable especially with the direction MS is taking with the .NET Core stuff (which is fucking good. like really good).

nothing wrong with devs using Windows so long as it's a conscious decision and they weren't pigeon holed into doing it

>>58337313
Windows has a metric fuckton of drivers by default. you can't ship an OS without that.

the problem is the installation mediums never get updated after they come out, so any hardware acquired after the OS is released is going to be a pain in the ass to deal with.

distro maintainers can just update their ISOs every other week. just another reason why FOSS is better.

>>58337638
you do realize the Gentoo distribution is named after the Gentoo penguin animal and not the other way around

>>58331100
Where have guys been? The year of the linux desktop was 2014.

>>58331100
>2016
1,018 games were released on Steam with Linux support

>>58337725
and most of them are shit

>>58337725
>implying games decide the dominant OS....

>>58337738
That's not the point, bud

>>58337741
Obviously not, but it's a big step

>>58337741
nothing decides that

all that mattered was getting there first and creating a self-sustaining status quo

>>58337676
>Windows
>has tons of drivers by default
No, it doesn't. If you ever try to install Windows you'll need to install GPU, peripheral device drivers, bluetooth (on laptops), wifi (laptops), ethernet for your motherboard, etc. The only thing Windows can use by default is your CPU, monitor, headphones and devices on PS/2 ports. Which isn't impressive at all especially since headphone/mic and PS/2 ports are so old that even a shit-tier OS last updated 20 years ago supports those. That's not a "fuckton of drivers".

>>58337738
So are most of Windows games, what's your point? In fact, I've noticed that 9/10 Windows exclusive games on steam are shit.

>>58337650
What are you doing with .net core?
I was thinking about doing ASP.net, but it seems like they're not releasing the full framework for it but a different micoframework.
Also kestrel doesn't really seem production ready.

take this shit back to /v/

>>58335925
Wayland

>>58338055
>>>/g/spg

>>58335925
Mir

>>58337886
Fuck off, retard. Windows has generic drivers for pretty much every device on the planet. Stop telling lies on the Internet.

>>58338331
you mean Windows 10 right?
Windows 7 driver support is shit
Windows 8.1 was just as good as latest linux distros

>>58338037
I was trying to migrate old projects to it. sadly couldn't do it all the way because I have some third party shit that isn't ported. also, I have some WPF apps and .NET Core only has ASP.NET for UI shit.

the project management is just much better. they simplified the fuck out of NuGet and now it's much faster and less prone to breaking. also, ditching XML for JSON was long overdue.

plus it's MIT licensed. I've always hated having to work with MS shit to pay the bills but that's a welcome reprieve.

>>58338331
Linux has much better support for old hardware.

Try using a GeForce 480 or older on Windows 10.

>>58337179
stop that lame excuse. there are tons of computers sold with some ubuntu/mint/lubuntu(and freedos)
People just do a clean install.

>>58338331
That's not true at all for Windows 7, you illiterate.
>using 2015 hardware
>Windows 7 2016 release doesn't support it out of the box
>using 2014 hardware, same problem
>using a 2012 laptop, same problem
Are you by any chance underage who hasn't even used Windows other than W10? If Windows supported everything then mobo and graphics card manufacturers wouldn't ship DVDs with drivers included.
I have installed operating systems, including Windows, many, many times. Just because a pre-built PC includes drivers doesn't mean Windows actually has drivers by default. They're pre-installed on pre-built computers and laptops.

>>58337725
besides some shit like xcom, total war warhammer,etc. most of them are small, indie crap that are plastered all over steam.

>>58338431
Can confirm. Getting a laptop with either free dos or linux (doesn't say which) soon. I'll do a manual install of a linux distro as soon as I get it.

I'll be either fully installing over my ChromeOS or dual-booting either a ChromeOS based distro or just any other distro alongside muh ChromeOS. Honestly I love muh ChromeOS now.

>>58338483
no, meant people clean install w7/10 afterwards.

>>58338495
>not installing 8.1

>>58338495
I know that, but it just doesn't appeal to your average computer user. All they see on TV and in newspapers is ads for Windows and ios, they are led to believe these are the only 2 good enough. I don't agree with it, I never said I did, but the average normie will only ever use Windows or ios. It's just how it is.

>>58331100
ITS NOT FAIR BROS

>>58337089
Fuck off Wesker.

>>58337363

>MS Office

The newest version of MS Office that you might be able to run in Wine might be 2013...

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>>58331100
>waiting for year of linux desktop
>2015... windows 10 comes along.
>End of windows desktop.

>>58331100
there will never be the year of the linux desktop. reason: linux is a kernel, not a desktop enviroment.

>>58331376
jokes on them, nearly every embedded system they use/come across is running Linux

why would anyone want any year to be the year of the desktop linux.

as soon as it goes mainstream i will move on to BSD or something

>>58342785
True, with popularity comes malware.