Thoughts on *BSD?

I think it's gay shit for faggots.

>>58329282
i prefer Linux, BSD is not fun, it is an OS for smelly old neckbeards

>>58329858
I am NOT smelly

>>58329858
and linux is an OS for smell young neckbeards

>>58329282
Their users shit up Linux threads with great regularity. I really don't think much about BSD. Will my skylake+480 run flawlessly? Does bsd support that? If did I would try it. But it seems really old and under maintained. I understand it has a great network stack. Just seems even further behind Linux in development.

BSD is good if you want your code stolen by hundreds of companies who will give nothing back.

>>58329951
>linux is an OS for smell young neckbeards
+1

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>>58329282

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>>58329282
did you know that stallman actually uses windows? he's basically a phony preacher who can't even stay true to his own philosophy because he's addicted to proprietary hentai flash games

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>>58330648

>>58330648
and he's addicted to devouring his own cornea

>>58330557
hi redd᠎dit

>>58330648
yo RMS release your fucking genetic source code you fucking hypocrite. i wanna have my own personally grown cuddle stallman

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Contributing.

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>>58330736

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>>58330648
>>58330678
In the end who's the biggest cuck and why?

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>>58330773

>>58330767
>Theo de Raadt hacked his router and remotely remapped his keyboard!
Nice false accusation.

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>>58330854
Yeah, because BSD is "unhackable".

>>58330887
>BSD is hackable, therefore this proves that Theo hacked someone.
Nice faulty logic.

>>58330887
>BSD
Which one? Because there's a ton of them in that family.

FreeBSD actually comes with a rootkit, it's called DTrace and it's pretty useful desu desu

>>58330924
Don't care if you are his lawyer, you can't prove he didn't either.

>>58330785
I'm very angry at myself for laughing at this

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>>58330197
>intentionally makes code freely available with minimal restrictions on usage
>somehow it qualifies as it being "stolen"
>Freetard logic in a nutshell

Are you under the impression that someone forces us to use the BSD or MIT license at gunpoint, or something?

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>>58331532
>implying devs want to give away rights
>implying they know how licenses work and get cucked on purpose
>cuck logic in a nutshell

>>58330887
>rootkits are synonymous with malware

You'd look less retarded if you actually bothered to learn what the fuck you are talking about.

>>58330640

>implying the same program wouldn't kill a Linux machine.

>>58331613
Nice dodge. You still have not demonstrated how my willingly and knowingly licensing my code as I see fit, qualifies as it being stolen from me.

They're great.

>>58330197
You are beyond retarded.

>>58330967
>What is burden of proof

>>58331765
Implying you do are a programmer, do as you wish with your code. As Torvalds said, BSD is for code you don't care.

>>58331776
You are beyond retarded samefag.

>>58331927
>torvalds and stallmeme are right about everything
okay

>>58331927
That was my first post itt, dumbass.

>>58331944
>>58331951
okay samefag

>>58331765
I'm not the person you're responding to, but I agree with your viewpoint. The question is not whether it is being stolen it's that your non-restrictive license is actually damaging to the open source community.

By not legally obligating those who improve the code to contribute back, you're robbing ALL those who decide to download your code of at least some potential future improvements by others. It's less about what other people are stealing from you and more about what other people _aren't_ giving back.

Any code I write that I'll be using for monetary gain is protected and private.
All other code is GPL'd.

You shouldn't steal from others with no benefit to yourself. FFS at least get something for all the potential improvements you're robbing these suckers of.

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>>58331973

>>58331997
okay samefag, we know the trick

>>58332010
Eat a dick, you fucking mong.

From the copyleft mindset GPL is the most free
From the permissive mindset Public Domain is the most free
BSD is neither here nor there in terms of freedom.

Can we stop bullying *BSD fags? They are always in a pain anyway.

Look at the bright side, they are using an open source platform and encouraging wincucks to welcome to the OSS world


I think we should stop infighting

>>58332069
Would love too, and I am sure not all the BSD community is like this.

But there are some strange people trying to push this anti-GPL idea. Those are the cancer.

>>58330648
bullshit he uses linux

>>58331828
>What is something that's obvious as fuck?

>>58332069
The problem is their hubris, not their merit.

>>58332094
what? have we been reading the same threads? all these threads are is the same schizophrenic shitposter going "cuck license lol"

>>58332069
This. It shouldn't be each OS for itself, it should be Unix(-like) vs. Wangdows
>But there are some strange people trying to push this anti-GPL idea
It's almost as if opinions exist and that the GPL is in some people's opinions an inferior license. Crazy concept, I know. But you've really got to try and wrap your head around it.

>>58332119
Just stop.

>>58332104
>replying to EZ B8

>>58332119
To be fair you people are also constantly complaining about "communism lol" memes as well.

Can we stop this?

It hurts me as a dev when I see OSS fags fighting each other like this.

Will the BSDfags going to stop shitposting every Linux thread?
Will they stop shilling the BSD/MIT license for later mocking the developers who complaining about the BSD license afterwards?

Will they?

>>58332204
They are not BSD fags. It's mostly winfags with the exception of one extremely butthurt macfag.

Want to shitpost? Pick up sqt or speccy

>>58332228
Okay, it makes sense winfags assume the disguise of legit BSD fags.

It doesn't solve the problem of these trolls but at least give us an idea of who may be behind.

bsd is failing for a reason. its useless and serves no actual purpose

>>58332255
Sure thing, kiddo. Totally useless. Meanwhile you use OpenBSD software on a daily basis.

>>58332407
bsd freebsd and openbsd arent the same thing.

name 3 openbsd software i use daily then, ill accept vox answers and wont act as an anecdote

>>58331993

>The question is not whether it is being stolen it's that your non-restrictive license is actually damaging to the open source community.

wat

>By not legally obligating those who improve the code to contribute back, you're robbing ALL those who decide to download your code of at least some potential future improvements by others. It's less about what other people are stealing from you and more about what other people _aren't_ giving back.


HOLY FUCK THIS TUMBLR LOGIC

>>58332437
openssh for example

hell, maybe you don't use it, but it's pretty much the backbone of the internet, same with pf

>>58332437
>bsd freebsd and openbsd arent the same thing.
I'd love to see you point out where I said otherwise.
>name 3 openbsd software i use daily then
OpenSSH, tmux, sudo

>>58332458
ill accept, sure i dont but i meant more "commonly used"

>>58332470
sudo as in terminal sudo? wow didnt know it was bsd. whats tmux.

it was more because op was bsd, not open bsd.

>>58332557
tmux is a terminal multiplexer

if you've seen GNU screen, it's like that

it's also useful if you need to leave something running but you also need to log out, you can just detach a tmux session and reattach them, that's mostly what i use it for

>>58332557
>it was more because op was bsd, not open bsd.
OP is about BSD operating systems, of which OpenBSD is one. You claimed *BSD is useless, which means they all are, so I used OpenBSD as an example because of the software they write that's commonly used in other operating systems.

>>58329411
I think it's for real men (and women) who know what they want.

>>58330648
Firstly he uses Linux and secondly you don't use Windows you are used by Windows.

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>>58332046

>>58332951
And?

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>>58332966

>>58332985
Again, and?

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>>58333005

>>58333034
So are you going to actually answer my question or just keep posting screenshots of edited posts?

GPL is Cuckolrdy: The License.
BSD haters can't hadle the freedom.

>>58333060
I'm another anon playing with inspect element, but I was not aware you asked a question. If you ask it again, I will gladly try to answer.

>>58333085
And?

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>>58333092
>Nice dodge. You still have not demonstrated how my willingly and knowingly licensing my code as I see fit, qualifies as it being stolen from me.
You are right. You willing forfeit your ownership of the code, therefore allowing anyone to use it at their discretion. It is not stolen code.

>>58329858
>>>58329282 (OP)
>i prefer Linux, BSD is not fun, it is an OS for smelly old neckbeards
Linux is for wife murderers and people who like auto-asphyxiation with vacuum cleaner power cord.

BSD is a cuck license.

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>>58333084
Threadly reminder

My company's server runs on FreeBSD but I don't think it's for a particular reason
They don't use exclusive BSD features like ZFS or jails

The only reason I can think of is that the admin wants to secure his job
Few applicants have BSD experience
Not that it's hard to learn but it's not on their CVs

>>58329282
Masturbating monkeys

>>58333312
I know one is Reiser, but who is the other one?

MS shills out in full force with FUD and memes to get everyone to use windows.

>>58329282
*BSD is a server OS that will work like shit for desktop use

>>58330108
Hardware support isn't something that's too greatly supported on the BSDs, but in the case of FreeBSD we realize this to be a problem. It's been ignored for a while but work is being done now. There are other issues and people often work on other things, but we do know that the end user might not be that comfortable in a FreeBSD environment. It's great if you know operating systems and are capable to develop one, makes Linux seem like a useless toy, but thats not the majority of users.

>>58338004
Depends on which one you're talking about. FreeBSD's developed as a server OS, a lot of the devs run OS X. OpenBSD, on the other hand, is developed and dogfooded as a desktop OS.

>>58338574
I thought OpenBSD was designed as a router/firewall OS, and that it happened to be built well enough to decently function on a desktop?
Would Mostly everything work ootb?

>>58340001
It's multipurpose. And what do you mean?

>>58340034
Well, with FreeBSD my laptop speakers don't work, while the headphone jack works

>>58340282
Well I guess that'd depend on whether OpenBSD supports your hardware or not.

>>58340365
Well, the sound card works, just a fucky issue with the speakers and whatever program sends the info to them.

>>58330942
dtrace is very good rootkit

>>58330785
nice photoshop^Hgimp

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>>58342360

>>58330785
Good thing OpenBSD prefers the ISC license.

>>58332094
Funny, I've had the opposite experience - that some strange people claim that there should only be 1 license, and that it should be GPL.
Your milage may wary a lot, it seems.

>>58332557
Last I checked, out of the top-50 projects on github, only one was GPL. All others were MIT, BSD, Apache, or derivatives thereof. No points for guessing which was GPL licensed.

>>58342414
Fucking ha. This is legitimately brilliant.

>>58342485
According to statistics posted last year, +60% is MIT, BSD or Apache licensed, while GPL only accounts for 34%.

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>ITT: cucks

I don't care about licenses at all. piratebay has a keygen for anything, so why sould I care?

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>>58337988
"When a police officer showed up the tech entrepreneur's home Monday morning, the doors were locked, according to the records. But inside, he could see Murdock's naked body lying face down on the stairs -- and a vacuum electrical cord wound tightly around his neck, according to the medical examiner's report. The vacuum cleaner was positioned at the top of the stairs, behind the railing."

Whatever your opinion is, you have to
"throw it out"

>I need drivers
>Throw your hardware out.

>I need software.
>Throw your needs out.

>I need to get online
>throw the web out

Same as any alt-unix or alt-os these days.

>>58335743
There are no real BSD shills here at least, it's just hipsters who only got into linux because they thought it made them special snowflakes. Then it got too mainstream, so they went for something even more stupid.

This is why you see the quantum "try BSD but fuck off" shit posted every time, in one form or another.

>>58344368
ebin

>>58333312
It's true, I totally dig these things.