Could someone explain the mechanical keyboard meme to me?

Overpriced hardware circle jerk

>>58326588
it goes click when you click it bro its dank af

I like my $10 Logitech, it takes more skill to type on and I can teabag like a pro.

They feel nice and can last a long time. That's pretty much it.

>>58326602
Not overpriced if you buy one every 8 years.

>>58326588
It is just like every other hobby out there. Like with old cars, old radios and shaving blades. There is far more advanced technology but there is this charm to the shitty old one.

>>58326588
"how to annoy the living fuck out of ppl around you" circlejerk

ppl who buy these mechanical keyboards are fucking hipsters... and autists. safely ignore them.

Feels slightly better to type on and can allow you to type faster.
Mostly it's just autism like cable management though.

>>58326588
the clickclack is satisfying. Even more when you have a 30 year old one.q

>>58326588
>LOLITA
does it moan and gasp on keypresses?

>>58326588
I like the look of this keyboard. Where do I get one ?
It's one of those massdrop only meme keyboards, isn't it ?

>>58326852
no, it speaks French and cries at night instead

>>58327061
'Tis

Worst meme I ever fell for. They make me make mistakes considerably more often than rubberdome ever did.

>>58327089
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Mechanical-Keyboard-Noppoo-Switches-backlit/dp/B00T1P8HTG/ref=sr_1_3?s=computers&ie=UTF8&qid=1483575485&sr=1-3&keywords=Noppoo+Lolita+Spyder+87
Found it !

>>58326679
>people that like things i dont like are autistic hipsters

sounds about right.

>>58327114
>poo switches
>poo fans
>poo in the cpu
QUALITY SHIT

Got a Fiilco mj2 tkl with brown for $90. Shits cash

>>58326588
Different people prefer the keys to feel different when pressed.

>>58326588
Neckbeards creaming their panties because they like the feel of typing on an old 80s era computer.

>>58327325
>Choosing mushy bullshit

No thanks, anon.

>>58326588
To be honest, I'm really only into them for the custom keycaps.

>>58327061

60 bucks on newegg

>>58328106
Shame newegg doesn't ship to Europe.

if you do a lot of typing they are awesome, everything else is just fluff.

> take any product
> add 'feature' so that you can add another 'selling point' to it on ads, and shill online
> instant meme

50% DIY hobby
25% customization for a persons preferences
25% "look at my 200$ keyboard that sounds like an engine starter"

>>58326679
>buying an upgraded product makes you an autist

>>58326602
dat esport marketing at work LUL

>>58326649
More like if you buy one

there is no meme

it's just a better type of keyboard

>buy a couple mech keyboards (blue and red switches)
>I can see how they're different but the superiority isn't decisive
>go back to my old keyboard
>feels like I'm typing on syrup
It was subtle at first but I can never go back

>>58331562
It certainly feels a little mushy going back. But I've gone back after 2 months of memechanical use for good.

Being and oldfag (38), I remember my first PC's back in the day that had a clickity-clackity IBM keyboard. It was beige and felt like a dream to type on.
Now I type on a hipterbook pro retina on the go, but when I'm at my battlestation, I go full vintage/retro.
It's autistic as fuck but my wife understands.

>>58332694
Your age has nothing to do with whether you're an oldfag or not, you're just old.

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>>58332709

t.philosophical millennial

>>58332694
>>58332827
You're such a fucking newfag. Why the fuck do you think the opposite of oldfag is newfag and not youngfag? Because it has NOTHING to do with age, it's a term describing people who have been here for several years. But you would know that if you wouldn't be such a fucking newfag

>b-but I've been here all summer!
kys!

>>58332827
What in the everliving fuck are you on about, grandpa?

>>58331562
>>58331754
does it feel sharp and clacky like a type writer?

>>58332971
No, but not very far from it.

>>58326602
Buy a Model M and then never replace it.
You won't have to.
Ever.

>>58333132
This. I mean shit, people buy decades old ones and love them. I'm definitely set for life with my new one.

>>58326588
The only really valid consumer advice is: after [x] years of regular use, the keys won't have any overused/soggy feeling when you press them like a membrane keyboard's keys would

can someone explain the RBG meme to me ?

They feel better to type on, though.

The real meme is people who buy like 10 of them from massdrop.

"mechanical keyboards last forever, you'll never have to buy another one again!!!" *buys 40 separate boards*

They have too much travel and they make too much noise.

Low profile scissor switch is the best.

>>58326588
The auditory/tactile response of a mechanical keyboard makes typing feel better.

>>58333438
nice shitpost

I haven't tried mechanical keyboards just yet but I can see where they are coming from, the feeling of the switch makes a huge difference in typing fast but as with most things you'll get used to it in time. I mean I had a Toshiba C55 laptop I got last year and gave it to my sisters in turn of getting a beat up Elitebook 8460 and the keyboard switch was amazing, if a little weird at first with the more tactile click

>>58326602
t. someone who can't afford a mechanical keyboard

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Mechanical keyboards are the audio pebbles.

>>58333352
so normies think your cool and don't give you shit about the price

>>58333736
Not even remotely. Those are pure snake oil, mechanical keyboards are merely keyboards for people with preferences that differ from yours.

>>58333783
>I prefer placebo mechanical noise!

Sounds like delusional audio pebbles to me. Do you also prefer it when your brakes screech on your car? Or when your door creaks when it opens?

>>58326588
>explain the mechanical keyboard meme
made popular for gaymen, plebs think normal keyboards aren't good enough because of how fast they mash keys like autistic children. The truth is that after factoring in the keyboard buffer and network latency it is of absolutely no benefit other than pretty LED lights, expensive branding, and waving their 'muh hardware' dicks around. These people are seriously fucking retarded and you could make an advert to sell them anything.

>>58333819
I'm not who you're replying to, but:

The noise is a nice bonus, it feels good to have real audio feedback when typing. I do enjoy it. My main preference for mechanical keyboards is the the vastly superior typing feeling and the long term durability.

>>58332694
>but my wife understands.

But does your wife´s son understand?

>>58333819
Where did I say anything about the noise? I'd be perfectly content with a silent mechanical keyboard.

they feel pretty good to type on

Same reason some people pay $1000 for an office chair even if they could be perfectly fine sitting on a cardboard box.

They last longer and provide a better user experience.

>>58333132
my ~15yo $5 membrane keyboard is alive up to this day, i'm using it everyday. Keyboards are generally living forever if you don't abuse them, so reliability argument is shit.

i'd buy a mech for quality feel though.

>comfy as fuck
>pretty as fuck
>can type 500 wpm faster on it
>to intelligent to use normal keyboards
gave you 4 reasons why i use them

>>58333819
>what are different switch types
>what are silent switches
>what are rubber rings
>what is key roll over
>what are function keys

>want a mechanical keyboard
>don't want to loose the typing feel of my 8 yesr old rubberdome
Kill me

>>58326588
>consistent actuation across all keys
>good typing feel (subjective and depends on the switch)
>actuates higher compared to rubber dome (also subjective)
>can last forever and is easy to repair

>>58333736
theres no way people actually do this

i googled it and found only this picture

>>58336454
its real, there are special wire stands, and all sorts of utter bullshit in the audiophile world.

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>Not using this GOD tier keyboard
anything else and i cant type blind or type correct at all.

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>>58336552
crap i posted the wrong one. Here is my actual one i OWN!

>>58336698
you literally painted the keyboard to tell which keys light up the LEDs on top, and on top on that pause has a ||.
I'm not sure if i have to laugh or get sad.

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>>58336759
give me a break god dammit i have had this thing since i was 6 years old my dad gave it to me!!
that shit will never come off since it is permanent marker!!!!!!

>>58336783
have you tried... rubbing some rubber on it?
That shit is awesome.

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Mechanical keyboards actually help me greatly physically, much less tiring and straining from my muscular dystrophy

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>>58332709
>>58332926
You're wrong. If we're talking about a real world context, then an oldfag is old and a newfag is young. Note that anon didn't say
>being an oldfag on 4chan
He said:
>oldfag
He said nothing else. This means you boys get roped up, thrown in the dumpster, and set on fire. Again. And again. And again.

wait... What exactly is the difference between mechanical and normal keyboard? Aren't all keyboard... Mechanical? Or you comparing physical keyboards with touch pad/touch sensitive keyboard?

>>58336783
mr clean magic erasers. they will clean the whole thing.
>>58336926
damn sorry to hear about that bro.
>>58337068
no, it refers to the switch type for each key.

>>58326602
Overpriced i spent $40 on mine, and there are tons of other cheap options.

>>58336975
eeeeeeeeeeeeew

>>58336799
i mean eraser. rub an eraser on it.

>>58326588
it is just that - a meme. also you'll get either rsi or arthritis from this gay shit

mech keyboards are only for people who don't know about the dell l100 and the logitech k120

>>58337084
don't be sorry, it allows me to game for hours lol, what more could I want? :D

>>58326588
I like feeling and hearing feedback when I type

>>58336975
Of you say oldfag on 4chan it's definitely going to be assumed that you mean you've been on here for a while. I have literally never heard anyone call themselves an old faggot, and I doubt that was grandpa's intention.

Back when computers were considerably more expensive, all keyboards were mechanical keyboards because they allowed you to type the fastest and lasted the longest. They also allowed for things like many-key-rollover, in the case of the keyboard I'm using, it's N key rollover. This feature is very important if you're a very rapid typist or a gamer.

Now if you're a poor fag, you're going to mentally justify your lack of mechanical keyboard by sour grapes.

I say to you: Fuck off poor fag.

>>58333352
ricers of the computer world
>>58333680
never tried one, but giving input......
>>58333625
>nice shitpost

>>58336926
Does anybody actually keep their board lit up like that for more than a day or two?

>>58326852
It does make noise.. And you will be a pariah at work if anyone knows you touch it.

>>58327094
A poor craftsman blames his tools.

>>58336422
this

>>58338917
Well, I have had a switch change from a shitty rubber dome to a slightly shit less dome and felt a huge increment in speed and clickiness

>>58338917
You don't need to try something to understand why it's a thing.

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>>58326588

Typists find that certain kinds of mechanical switches give them the ability to type faster and more comfortably in comparison to other solutions.

Then the seas of posers swept in.

- Gleeful fucktards who like the sound. Nobody actually likes the sound, nerds just pretend to. To properly understand how cringy this behavior is, it's best to compare it with something else. It's a bit like a kid getting into the "stoner" lifestyle and buying marijuana stickers and t-shirts. They get a sense of belonging from that.

- Comfortfags. It's incredible how often these people can barely type. Like, 50 WPM snails. Some of them can't even touch type, I kid you not. They somehow convinced themselves that rubber domes are "uncomfortable" and that is the reason they have to shell out a lot of cash for a very expensive and very loud keyboard. Then they proceed to mash their sausage fingers and bottom the fuck out on every stroke and pretend that is more comfortable because there's a clicky feel. Basically, toddler brains.

- Gaymares. Consumerist victims as usual, this is just another trend they've been caught up in.

- Ricefags. They like the look of those tiny barely functional keyboards. Then they proceed to spend absolutely amazing amounts of money on custom blank keycaps. From there, /g/ is their oyster. You see one of these keyboards on /g/, there's a very high chance that the owner shaves his legs and wears knee high socks.

- Spendfags. It was more expensive than other keyboards, so they bought it.

My girlfriend's mother is a typist. She's around 160 WPM. She uses a mechanical keyboard but she barely knows what it is. I couldn't even explain to her that there's an army of virgins online that fetishize these devices, she just wouldn't get it. To her and to every other normal person, this is like fetishizing taps, screwdrivers or hair dryers.

TLDR: another loser meme, don't worry about it

>>58339758
I type at 120wpm, I can't do that on a mushkeyboard without tripping over the keys.

Mushkeyboards are consumer grade cancer. kys

>>58339758
>Gleeful fucktards who like the sound.
>I don't like the sound so nobody does
I fucking love my buckling springs.
>Then they proceed to mash their sausage fingers and bottom the fuck out on every stroke and pretend that is more comfortable because there's a clicky feel. Basically, toddler brains.
Basically, they like the feedback. You know opinions are a thing, right?

tl;dr stop acting like your opinions are objective facts. You don't like them, that's fine. Don't go whining that others do.

>>58339758
insert xkcd about finding a way to feel superior to all groups

>>58339758

The keyboard I am using right now is pretty crap and uncomfortable. I would love a mechanical one where the keys don't stick, and activate correctly every time, but I don't want to be one of those mechanical keyboard people. Or spend $100+ on one. Tempting though.

>>58339886

Just get a new rubber dome keyboard. Yours is likely worn out. And make sure it's not one of those $3 ones.

>>58339886
So you're going to avoid a better keyboard because you don't want to be associated with the people that use them?

>>58326588
Kids love the clicky-clackers!

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I've used pic related since it came with a server we got back in ~2003 or so (alongside the shittiest ball mouse I've ever used). Keyboard works fucking fine.

>>58339928
Congrats?

>>58326690
>can allow you to type faster

Nonsense, competitive typists all agree, membrane are the fastest.

>>58339937
Give me a reason to buy a mechanical keyboard when this one finally gets full of crumbs and hair, instead of just finding another one of these in a best buy dumpster.

>>58339965
I couldn't possibly give less of a shit if you buy one or not.

>>58339965
Personal preference.

Some like the look/feel/feedback of a mechanical keyboard.

>finding another one of these in a dumpster

Fucking stupid logic you could apply this to just about any luxury purchase


I fucking worry for whoever let someone this impaired use a server

>>58339988
Then get out of this thread, you're supposed to be explaining the meme. I'm legitimately curious and you're just spouting an opinion that helps nobody.

>>58339937

Now if only every mechanical keyboard thread was

>OP
Keyboard works fucking fine

>only reply
congrats?

Instead, we got the cringiest "hobbyists" just talking about what they're gonna buy next and which keycaps they're gonna put in there. Over and fucking over again. And it only goes on because they need something to feel fuzzy and special about. I wish threads were physical spaces so I could gas these people.

>>58340018
I already have, I'm not going to do it again for some little twat. You're more than capable of reading through the thread instead of just shitting it up and begging people to answer you directly.

>>58333352
RGB lighting, like painting a car red, makes it go bith faster and cooler. What are you, a fucking pleb? If you don't have keyboard pacman you haven't ever lived.

I just bought my first mechanical keyboard with red switches and the short actuation distance is really exposing my bad habits. So many typos.

It's slightly more challenging but it's enjoyable.

>>58340049
I fail to see the issue. You know filters are a thing, right? If /mkg/ triggers you so much you you should probably set that up.

>>58326588
Fossil from the era where hardware was built to last instead of built to be thrown away in 6 months.

In the era of rubber domes found it's way into niche areas like programmings where old gramps could relieve their youths wearing nostalgia goggles for their lisp machines.

Like every good thing ruined by children and consumerist society addicted to "new shiny things".

>>58340147
fuck off to tumblr, commie

>>58340181
t. butthurt manchild

how's that razer green treating ya

>>58340220
>razor switches
kek
Oh fuck no, mx browns

>>58340265
I was reffering to the neon green color that razer gaming peripherals usually come with not yet another same-but-different-but-same type of electronic doodad.

But congratulations, you're so absorbed with defending one of the shittiest subcultures of the tech community even jokes go over your head.

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dunno

after typing in this ms-dos

I can definitely see where people are coming from, but you can't carry this large ass keyboard anywhere

That is why I like the scissors key because they are a lot slimmer than these mechanical keys, but mechanical keys can even last for 30 years without a sweat

>>58340359
>That is why I like the scissors key because they are a lot slimmer than these mechanical keys, but mechanical keys can even last for 30 years without a sweat
Not a mech-keyboard autist but imo scissor keyswitches are the biggest garbage on the planet.

Incredibly hard to clean.

>>58340344

dude, watch your mouth. Don't fuck around with that guy. Word on the street has it that he's using "MX Brown" switches.

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>>58340400
>Incredibly hard to clean.
Fair point. Even membrane keys are better because you can atleast remove the cap. With scissor, you have to be extremely careful when ripping those keys.
>pic related

The only to re attach this piece of shit is to use super clue and pray for the best, because the attaching taps have broken off

>>58340515
>With scissor, you have to be extremely careful when ripping those keys.

Yeah last week I had to go through the process of ripping the entire laptop keyboard apart because key kept sticking (god knows why cause I don't eat near the computer and haven't spilled any water over it).

Took me solid 4 hours to do the whole thing.
I didn't worry too much cause I had old and damaged one that I replaced so any damaged scissor would just get replaced. But If I did have to worry about it would take even longer.

>>58339919
Yes.

>>58326649
Like you would buy any non-mechanical one? Have Mine for almost 10yrs none. Not mech.

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>>58340664
That is quite possibly the dumbest thing I've ever read.

How hard is to fix model m yourself? My '82 just got wierd it inputs a string of pretty much random characters on one press of particular key. I dont know why i didn't spilled anything on it.

>>58326588
i have a keyboard that has LED lighted keys, pretty cool i can type in the dark

>>58340951
I have a keyboard with no lights; I can type in the dark too.

Placebo

>>58340593
Particularly annoying about this keyboard is that you can't find cheap replacement anywhere

I mean this computer is too rare due to its price so finding spare parts is a pain in the ass

That is why I like thinkpads which is one of the reason why I like these scissor keys.

>>58326671
Shaving blades are cheaper and work better for me; I don't even use anything but water anymore.

Needed something with nkro because I play rhythm games. There are parts where you press 8 buttons at once.

>each key actually fucking types when i hit it because i know exactly how to actuate a switch
>pushing friction-fit keys that have no fucking spacing of their own and have to interfere with a fucking stupid plastic case is a nightmare for doing what i actually want to do when i hit keys

>still doesn't fix my cerebrum, so i fuck up by switching letters because each hand decides to type faster than the other
at least i'm not vishnu

What's the best cheap option for a blue switch keyboard?

Chinks may make themselves known.

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>>58339920
>Clic Clackers

What exactly is a mechanical keyboard? What's the alternative?

>>58341564
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=What+exactly+is+a+mechanical+keyboard%3F

>>58341631
>discussion on a discussion board
>triggering your autism

>>58333352
>RBG
Red Breen Glue?

>>58326588
I paid 130€ for my keyboard (cherry red). These are the reasons.
>easy to clean
>dont like the touch of the membrane
>metal body
>just the way the mechanical respond

while I would have loved to pay less, the design from corsair, which allows a easy way to clean the keyboard was among the top reasons to buy it.

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>>58342614
>forgot pic?
I am sure I attached it

>>58342695
>>58342614
got a k70 lux
Brushed aluminum is gucci but has to be cleaned once a month because it's a dust and print magnet
Corsair K series keyboards are pure sex, even if a bit overkill

>>58341676
Do you also register on forums for fans of motorized vehicles only to ask "what's a car and what are the alternatives?"

How do you clean your keyboard?

>>58339758
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=etSKEiZ-zv0

i think its a good design feature that some mx keyboards have raised caps, makes it easy to clean dust and hair with compressed air.

>>58344420
Remove all keys, unplug, clean with a damp cloth and hit it with compressed air to finish.

>>58338969
i didn't lol, i have it going through a spectrum synced with my deathadder chroma

>>58326588

> It's for autists who want to feel like they """""belong"""""" in some kind of community.

>>58326588
Meh it's just about having a high quality keyboard with a nice typing feeling. Also, tenkeyless is only common in mechanicals, and tenkeyless is better ergonomically - puts your mouse in a better location. CM Storm Quickfire Rapid with MX Blues is only $70 or something - not a huge investment.

t. never tried a topre before
stay poor lads

>>58339940
what's faster? pressing a switch half way to activate it or having to press all the way down to activate it?

thought so.

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>>58326588
i would probably buy one if it didnt cost me $100!!
some of them look nice. ive had pick related for about years. its not fancy, but it works fine. and it only cost me like $15

>>58348758
there's like $40-$60 keyboards with chink remake switches in them

some of them work just as fine as a normal MX but there's 1-2 brands which are not exactly the greatest

>>58348758
Man it's almost as if better things are worth more money or something. What an odd concept.

>>58326588
It feels nice to type on.

That's it.

>>58339928
Im using the same keyboard.

mine came with the Inspiron 530 around 2007-8.
it also had a Black Roller mouse.

Im also wondering whats the point of mechanical keyboards.

>>58348998
It's for people who want more than the absolute bare minimum out of a keyboard.

>>58349019
what kind of benefit would i see from a mechanical keyboard playing games? shooters (halo) and rpgs (witcher)

im building a PC to replace my very Old computer and take over the role of my Xbox One.... so i dont know if this is something id even need or want.

>>58340808
Check the metal back plate.

You will probably have to drill out the rivets and replace them with screws. It will work just fine after that, and the mod is cheap, but it takes a long time.

>>58349213
No clue, I don't play games. I've got one because of the comfort, durability, and sound.

>>58326588
They feel nicer to type on, that's about it.

What more is there to know? It's like asking what's up with the whole ‘computer chair’ meme and why people don't just sit on wooden chairs

>>58327061
Aliexpress, Noppo lolita

>>58349709
>I've got one because of the comfort, durability, and sound.
same here

It feels better, sounds nicer, and lasts longer. IMO no reason not to get a mechanical keyboard

>>58326588
just don't fall for the "blues are best" meme. My friend's reds feel way better.

>>58326588
WHAT?! SORRY, I CAN'T HEAR YOU!!

*CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK* *CLACK*

>>58349877
It's all subjective. I think all the Cherry switches I've tried (reds, blacks, blues, and browns) are trash.

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bought pic related 1 years ago
it's better than regular keyboard
because it's mechanical keyboard
just buy it

>>58349877
>>58349901
Personally I love my blues but tried the mx clears and legitimately thought there had been some error and the keyboard was installed with 5 year old rubber domes instead

>>58326649
I'm using an IBM KB-8923 built in 1997 that I took from an old PC at work.
>rubber dome
>20 years old
>works like new

But you consumer cucks can't resist buying overpriced ~~modern ~~sleek ~~tactile keyboards.

I hate to ask this, but what the best mechanical gaming keyboard?

>>58326588
They're keyboards that feel nice to type on, have a calming noise, and look nice. Are they expensive? Yes. Is the price unnecessary? Yes.

Is it a fun hobby? In my opinion, yes. It's just like those people who have LEDs and glass panels in their computer cases, unnecessary and overpriced. It's cool and I like it, there isn't any other reason.

Honestly, I can't type on a rubber dome keyboard anymore. It just feels like cheap shit.

>>58350754
Mech gaming keyboard?
baddragon.com

Alternately, there is the corsair k70 with reds. Razer is another option with their Blackwidow line. Known gaymur brands. Personally, I use any given mech keyboard with a logitech g600. Right now I have a pok3r with clears. Wouldn't recommend it for games, bitnyou can get just about anything with some blues or reds on them. Then there's kailh switches on the magicforce keyboards. Ducky has a good line with their One series.

>>58326588
reliable enough and able to withstand enough wear where you get to maintain it

it's a man thing
don't worry about it

>>58350717
>>rubber dome
>>20 years old
>>works like new
press s
now press scroll lock
do you notice the difference in weight required to press the two keys?

it doesn't work "like new"

>>58333132
>buying a model m

that's some a grade autism right there.

>>58343267
Do you really still live with your mom so she can take care of her "special gift"?

>>58350936
>he hasn't remapped enter to scroll lock
laughing emacs users.jpg

why are iso mech kbs so hard to find?

>>58351152
Because ISO is a shit.
> thicc enter key

>>58351240
but i like T H I C C

>>58351240
ISO layout is objectively superior.

1. The key above the enter key is very out of the way, the ISO-style of putting it to the left of the enter key instead is more accessible IMO

2. You get an extra key in between your Z and left shift. For those of us who have it muscle memory'd (e.g. it's \| for me, and in stuff like MMORPGs it's absolutely irrepleceable) there's simply no substitute*

* dual-function keys are okay too, like having it act as shift when held down and as \ when tapped; which is what I'm doing for my ErgoDox layout (as soon as the goddamn thing arrives)

>>58350754
Coolermaster makes greeat, cheap, reliable mechs for gamers.

>>58351303
In my MMORPG games I have Ctrl bound to my third mouse button (g600 ring finger click) and my number keys as well as those on the mouse. Plenty of usage there. I don't need more keys, even on a 60%.

As for the key above enter, I have that bound to backspace and backspace bound to \|.

The thicc enter key just isn't that comfy. I prefer ANSI.

>>58351487
>In my MMORPG games I have Ctrl bound to my third mouse button (g600 ring finger click) and my number keys as well as those on the mouse.
So you use the left control key as an ability instead?

I can see that working, since you get the same number of keys/modifiers as me. When I was playing WoW I was extremely pressed for key binding real estate around the WSAD block, to the point where I had to cut into multi-modifier combinations like ctrl+shift+e, or uncomfortable bindings like alt+1

Probably not an issue anymore now that they dumbed the game down to the point where you could play it on a mobile phone touchscreen, but still, more keys are more keys.

>>58351602
>>58351487
Even if you repurpose left control as a key, the nice thing about the \ key was that it was in the perfect position to be pressed naturally with a relaxed hand when placed on WSAD. For control or shift, I have to reach. So it makes an ideal place to put a “spam” or “filler” ability, like your arcane blast or whatever ability constitutes the majority of your rotation.

>>58336698
Nice phone bro.

>>58351620
>>58351602
My setup is this: Ctrl bound to ring finger click on my mouse. Caps lock is bound to Ctrl on the actual board for typing ease. Backspace is where the \ key is and reverse.

For ability keys I keep my pinky on the 3 key and my forefinger on the 6 key, so my pinky can comfortably reach 1 and 2 and my forefinger can do the same with 7 and 8. Then I have Ctrl on my mouse to equal to 16 total buttons available with keybindings edited. Then on my mouse the button grid is 12 keys total, and with Ctrl I have 24 there. Total I have 40 keys available. Seems like more than enough to me, and I use left-click+right-click to move. I never have to move my keys off of the number row to cast, except if I want to type. Even in Vanilla, that would have been plenty.

>>58327061
just google Loli and you'll find it

>>58351772
>Total I have 40 keys available. Seems like more than enough to me, and I use left-click+right-click to move.
I had 42 keybindings on my mage when I stopped, and this was post-draenor ability pruning. Before that, I had something like 50 bindings.

I'd also never give up WSAD-movement for the life of me, because you often need to move in a different direction than where you want to be facing (either with your character or with your camera)

>>58332827
>>58332709
newfags gtfo

>>58351821
>I had 42 keybindings on my mage when I stopped, and this was post-draenor ability pruning. Before that, I had something like 50 bindings.
Oh, I also didn't include click bindings, of which I have a few more (around 5 iirc)

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>>58326588
Can someone recommend me a cheap mech with cherry blues that I can move from home to work and so on?

I dont trust those niggers and the office keyboards are all busted as fuck

>>58351826
Meant to quote >>58336975
not >>58332709

>>58351303
ISO is utter trash purely because you need to move your pinky so far over to press return. Your finger's not going towards it from above; it doesn't need to be larger vertically than a normal key. It's always coming from the left, which is why a short and wide key is factually superior.

>>58351833
How cheap do you wanna go?

I was about to recommend a G80-3000 which used to cost like 40€ but now I saw their price has risen to 100€. Jesus christ, I wonder if that's due to the exchange rate getting weaker or if the jews just notched up the price due to mech keyboards' rapidly growing popularity

>>58351821
Yeah, I use WASD keys for strafing and whatnot, but in most situations, like farming and whatnot, the layout I mentioned worked just fine. I remember once I had alt+(numbers) bound to some stuff too, but it was unnecessary. I primarily play Afflock or Spriest anyway, so it doesn't matter a whole lot.

Interesting setup, though. I've played around with other keybindings around WASD and I've just never really found interest in that. My setup works for me, and that's fine for now.

>>58351856
Not really for me. My right hand is position so that my pink is naturally on top of the right shift key (which I use for capitalization), and moving over to the enter from that position is not really a big distance.

But I can definitely see where you're coming from. Oh well, I'll only be using the ISO layout for another few days at best so I'll enjoy it while it lasts :^)

>>58351833
Magicforce keyboards. They're TKL, so fairly portable. Not too bad on price, either.

>>58351866
well something like that, 40 bucks is a good price for something I'll probably abuse

>>58336373
Brown switches, look at tactile but non clicky.

>>58326588
Everyone makes fun of it until they actually buy one.

Then they realize how better it feels on their hands, how faster they can type, and glory that is n-key rollover on certain keyboards.

>>58351871
>I primarily play Afflock or Spriest anyway, so it doesn't matter a whole lot.
I've never played spriest, but I'm sure even they have shittons of keybindings. Most players just neglect them and only bind their core abilities.

Personally I'm of the opinion that you should have a binding for every ability you're capable of casting, period. Of those abilities, some of them need multiple keybindings as well, for example macros to control the targeting (e.g. cast interrupt on your focus target). Because if it's an ability that exists, there exists some situation in which that ability would be beneficial for you to use.

On top of this, you generally also want a handful of general purpose macros like targeting macros, cancelaura macros, world marker macros, keybindings for exotic abilities (e.g. symbiosis abilities or the draenei healing trait), and in some situations even combination macros (e.g. cancel ice block + cold snap combo)

Heck, I could easily have pushed my keybindings into the 60 or 70 range if I had the keyboard real estate to bind all of those.

But that's just my playstyle, I guess. The only fun in the game for me is trying to min/max it to the extreme, to the point where I'll e.g. use fire blast as an arcane mage for the 0.1% DPS increase in situations where I'm forced to move, arcane barrage is on cooldown, or I can't complete a cast in time. If I'm not using every single ability that exists to the limits of what's possible, I don't feel like I'm playing my class properly.

>>58351886
If you'll abuse it, then you don't want a cheap shit mechanical keyboard like the G80-3000 (which LITERALLY breaks if you try to remove the caps for cleaning, because the shitty glue they used to stick the switches in place has less binding force than the cap friction, and also feels like a flimsy piece of plastic in general).

If you want to abuse your keyboard, get something known for high build quality with a solid metal backplate anchoring for the switches. Something like a Filco Majestouch 2, for example, is basically impossible to break. (That's what I'm using currently, although I don't really feel too strongly about recommending it because it has a number of other issues)

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They make clicky clacky noises so they amuse my ADHD. Really that's it for me. My wife spilled wine on my last keyboard so I figure for my next purchase I'll try this mech meme out.

>>58351940
I know /g/ will cringe but my razr mech keyboard has held up for a couple years now and the switches don't break from me removing the keys.

>>58351926
Yeah, man. I don't worry about all that shit. I can still top DPS charts in my guild raids pretty easily with just what I have. As for those other innocuous keybindings, there are GUI buttons I have with addons that do that, so it's fine. If you like that, though, that's great. With spriest it's the same as Afflock, essentially. DoT management to the core. Mind Flay when not. I just like to watch DoTs and micro manage timers. Soothes my autism.

>>58339758
would have been a better post if it didn't have reddit frog

>>58351961
went to fap
saw face
nvm'd

>>58351926
>On top of this, you generally also want a handful of general purpose macros like targeting macros, cancelaura macros, world marker macros, keybindings for exotic abilities (e.g. symbiosis abilities or the draenei healing trait), and in some situations even combination macros (e.g. cancel ice block + cold snap combo)
Or, even heck, stuff like slow fall needs to be a click binding.

>>58326588
I basically just got sick of having to replace my keyboard so often. Been using my current one for 4 years.

>>58351984
>With spriest it's the same as Afflock, essentially. DoT management to the core. Mind Flay when not. I just like to watch DoTs and micro manage timers. Soothes my autism.
That was basically the mage playstyle in pandaria as well, because the trinkets they gave you were so fucking broken that snapshotting it onto your mage bomb as a full mastery arcane mage was pretty much your primary damage source, and because of this you were also basically a multi-DoT class for mid-cleave AoE engagements.

The thing about DoT classes for me is that to me it's only fun if you have DoT snapshotting, and they removed that in draenoer during the first wave of “make WoW casual again!” changes... what's the point of DoT management if all you have to do is recast the DoT when it's near the end of the timer?

The fun part was watching your trinket procs and raid buffs and estimating at what point in time to refresh them to gain the best benefit of your GCDs while still snapshotting the last few seconds of your procs. Any kid with down syndrome can just watch a timer and press the button when the timer expires, where's the fun in that?

>>58352094
I guess that I've never really considered going that in-depth with it. I just enjoy the calming experience of monitoring dots and refreshing them.

I've dropped WoW and only played somewhat casually since Cataclysm ended. Pandaria was a clusterfuck if you ask me, and completely uninteresting lore-wise. I played towards the tail-end of Draenor for like a month and I'll be resubbing here in a few days/weeks. Maybe I'll work on being that hardcore then, but I dunno. I'm about to get back into college and I have a job too, so I'll probably just keep it casual. I've always wanted to go hardcore, but time is just too little for me to squander it.

I like sitting there like a downsy little kid watching bars go up and down.
> soothes my autism

>>58352180
>I've dropped WoW and only played somewhat casually since Cataclysm ended. Pandaria was a clusterfuck if you ask me, and completely uninteresting lore-wise. I played towards the tail-end of Draenor for like a month and I'll be resubbing here in a few days/weeks. Maybe I'll work on being that hardcore then, but I dunno. I'm about to get back into college and I have a job too, so I'll probably just keep it casual. I've always wanted to go hardcore, but time is just too little for me to squander it.
Fair enough. Sounds like legion will be more up your alley, because I hear a lot of good things about it. They just took away the only part of the game that was really fun for me (going for #1 spots on worldoflogs).

>>58352233
I hope so, I'm only back in it for friends and what not. If I want to be competitive, I'll play something that actually has a competitive scene.

Maybe you'll get back into it, going for #1 spots sounds like you were pretty good. Maybe I'll change how I play this time. I've got a hardcore heavy-autism asian friend who has to be the best at every game he plays. I'll have to kick his ass in the deeps charts, so I'll work on this stuff, I guess.

>>58352263
Well if you want to work at it, the best piece of advice I can give you is that THE most important thing when it comes to DPS maximization is planning ahead and knowing the encounter well.

Getting the most use out of your offensive cooldowns is *far* more important than small-scale micromanagement. You need to know when your burst windows of opportunity are, because you want them all to line up, and ideally also with your trinkets. You need to know you're going to initiate movement and how long you will be moving for, so you can plan out your movement in advance and make sure you never have downtime during an important trinket proc etc.

The second most important thing is planning out your general execution strategy. For example, knowing how many targets there are, knowing what boss mechanics require special mitigation, and so on.

You want to be picking your glyphs and talents on a per-boss encounter. And ideally, if you're playing something like warlock, you also want to be changing your specification from encounter to encounter (as your gear allows). If you have access to mechanic-avoidance abilities (like ice block or greater invis for mages), you want to switch to them so you can trivialize the mechanic and continue DPSing. If you know the encounter is movement-heavy, you want to be picking your movement-strong talents instead, and so on. You also want to be knowing how many targets you're going to be facing, because pretty much every class out there has a different talent selection depending on the number of targets they're expected to be damaging on average.

>>58352340
Also, there's a difference between maximum DPS and playing optimally; and if you're pushing for mythic raids then you can't maximize your DPS at the expense of the raid until the content is sufficiently overgeared and on farm status.

Ideally, you would have your execution down to the point where you can play optimally without missing a GCD or using a wrong ability without really having to think about it, so your mind can focus on timer management instead. (boss mechanic timers, phase timers, cooldown timers, etc.)

>>58339801
I type 120 wpm on both my laptop and 120 wpm+ on a membrane windows x4 keyboard.

>>58352340
>>58352341
Thanks for the tips, I'll try to do that. Hopefully I can get to Mythic this expansion, but I dunno. I'll actually be playing this one from semi-start to finish.

>>58326588
when you have a disposable income, you tend to buy more higher quality things that have diminishing returns

>play VIDEO GAMES
>want to move diagonally forward (W, D), Make a sliding dash (CTRL, E) into a flip (space)
>you can't do this because keyboard drops inputs due to shitty matrix setup
98% of all scissor shit and membrane fags BTFO

>play more video games, MM7
>want to jump move to left, shoot and press up to grab onto ladder
>can't go up ladder because keyboard drops inputs again
98% of all scissor shit and membrane fags BTFO

I wouldn't mind playing with chiclet keyboards if they sold one that didn't shit itself the moment you try to press down more than 2 or 3 keys at the same time.

>>58352938
mechanical != NKRO

>>58352964
but most new gaymer mechanical has nkro. I don't use the old beamspring ones since they're too heavy and only fucks up your hands if you're playing games where you repeatedly mash dash key over and over just for faster movement

>>58326588
They're all the same shit but with different colorways. Mk fans are like shoe collectors.

>>58352938
>>58352964
Not all mechanical keyboards have N-Key rollover, but 90% of modern mech keyboards do. If you're willing to dump more than $50 into a keyboard, you'll get at least 3-key which is completely fine for games and most programming. You don't even have to get gaming ones like >>58352996 said. I have a Pok3r and it's not even close to being considered a gaymin keyboard, but it has enough rollover to play videogames.

>>58351940
What issues? Sure, it lacks features and is a bit expensive, but I haven't noticed any issues.

>>58353018
I agree somewhat, it's just nice to try out different things. Most mechanical keyboard owners will take good care of their boards and then sell them, so I think that there is at least not as bad as shoe collecting. It's like tasting different flavors of ice cream. There are different flavors of keyboards out there and trying them is nice, but you don't have to dedicate to the same one. If you take half-decent care of it, you can flip it for near retail. For example, I recently sold a $200 keyboard that I don't use anymore for $150, and that's only because of the price drop from having it so long.

>>58353048
1. Fucking ABS plastic caps by default, uncomfortable as fuck. With a keyboard this expensive you'd think they'd put in the extra few cents for PBT
2. Bright as the motherfucking sun blue LEDs. I literally snapped them off my PCB
3. Don't think it does NKRO over USB (I use PS/2 though so I don't really care)
4. Not open source, firmware isn't easily reprogrammable

That's about it

>>58353072
Are you kidding me? Something as expensive as the Majestouch uses shit ABS caps? What in the fuck? I guess you are actually just paying for the name like everyone says.

>>58353094
They're pretty old, the Majestouch was around way before PBT plastic became a huge meme

Anyway the biggest draw for me is the solid as fuck build quality with the steel backplate and costar stabilizers (IMO there's no replacement, the cherry stabilizers are shit)

>>58353103
Even Vortex managed to keep their price range from the Poker II to the Pok3r while upping build quality to a CNC aluminum case, man. I haven't tried the costar stabs, though. What's the difference?

>>58353103
>>58353129
You know what? Completely ignore that. I just realized the Majestouch isn't as expensive as the Pok3r.

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>>58353129
>I haven't tried the costar stabs, though. What's the difference?
Costar stabilizers have a consistent force; the wide keys like shift and space bar have the same force as every other key.

With cherry stabilizers, the wide keys always get a little bit of extra resistane. Also, the costar stabilizers have a much nicer sound, but that's just my personal opinion. I love the sound of a costar stabilizer impacting the cap.

>>58351891
Gonna try, thanks. [spoiler]The explanation on the cherry webpage looks nice but doesn't helped that much.[/spoiler]

>>58339928
membrane keyboards are fine i guess, but ball mouses are awful

>>58326617
/thread

>>58352938
>>want to move diagonally forward (W, D), Make a sliding dash (CTRL, E) into a flip (space)
what game lmao

I have a few keyboards around, I bought a mechanical one not long ago for like 80 bucks just to try and see what was going on. After a few months I can see how it's nice and durable, however I don't find it comfortable on my pinkies and I'm not exactly the fast typing guy so I don't really benefit much from it. I don't know if I would recommend it, everyone does so but I guess that you would need to try it before you buy it or at least have a good grasp of what it is like.

Right now for instance I brought one of those apple keyboards home just to test it up, and while I feel like it's tiny in comparison I'm not feeling any "worse" with it than the mechanical keyboard. The noise thing doesn't do it for me like other people I guess. I'll just say that this has to be a preference thing at least, you might be used to something else and there's the fact that some rubber dome keyboards are really cheap and disgusting, but you might not get quickly used to mechanical either, it's not a guaranteed better experience.

>>58355038
Shitframe

Regret wasting all those hrs on that piece of shit

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Bought pic related with browns on a whim.
[spoiler]It wasn't a mistake, was it?[/spoiler]

>>58350936
>Do you notice the difference in weight
No, because I'm not a weakling manlet.

>>58357355
That could not possibly be less relevant.

>>58326649
>only owning one keyboard at a time

>>58357355
>>58357370
He probably has fist-sized keys that he slams down with force every single time he wants to hunt and peck out his shitposts

>buy blue switch mechanical keyboard on sale
>Immediately get buyers remorse when typing on it the first day
>Decide to return it since it's obviously just another g meme.
>Package it back up and plug my old microsoft membrane in to compare right before I leave the house
>Holy fug actually fall for the meme, membrane feels absolutely awful

Mechanical is honestly just better than membrane. Sure it probably doesn't affect typing speed much but it makes typing a lot more satisfying and fun. Plus they're usually built well and make your work area look nice. I would say the k70 or whatever it's called was worth the 150 CAD I spent on it.

>>58357445
>implying you can't enjoy the fact that a keyboard lasts for years even if you have backups

>>58357470
Reminds me of what it was like to buy audiofool headphones

>this sounds the same as my old ones, what a let down
>put my old ones back on
>suddenly night and day

>>58326602
You can buy an illuminated otemu switch board on amazon right now for less than 40 dollars. Fuck off

>>58357470
>>58357529
I went through something similar but in a different order. When I first got them I was amazed at how different it was, then as it because my new normal I thought I fell for a meme. Then I tried my old keyboard/headphones again and found them unusable.

As a side note I just recently got PBT keycaps and I'm pretty surprised at the difference. I expected the texture difference but the sound when bottoming out is much deeper too.

>>58359109
>As a side note I just recently got PBT keycaps and I'm pretty surprised at the difference. I expected the texture difference but the sound when bottoming out is much deeper too.
RIP, you can never use ABS caps again. Why do you people keep doing this to yourself?

Now go train yourself to recognize 3:2 pulldown and kerning.

>>58359394
Planning on getting a freesync monitor when I build a new computer too so that'll be fun. Maybe I'll start caring about kerning when I start dual booting linux.

>>58326679
Gee I wonder if the same applies to LEnovo® ThinkPads™