/FONT RENDERING/

I literally can't see the difference. Stop being so fucking retarded.

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Arch Linux reporting in

>>58326287
>I literally can't see the difference.
There is a difference.

>Stop being so fucking retarded.
Stop being so fucking blind. You need a new eyeglasses prescription, kid.

>>58326333
>tfw no propriatery CSS and JS

>>58326234
Save the page locally first, it isn't a fair comparison if the page being rendered changes.

>>58326371
look at the parts of text that haven't changed.

>>58326478
you get some coal for not reading the fucking request. render 4chan homepage like op.

>>58326542
uhh no ty

My point is that other things on the page can impact text rendering. If an image thumbnail causes text to be shifted over, the subpixel alignment might change, even if the text is the same.

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Android reporting in

>>58326684
your dumb

>>58326553
then fuck off because this is not a desktop thread.

>>58326699
it's a font rendering thread and she posted her font rendering, what's the problem?

>>58326684
you have no fucking clue how browser page rendering engines work. post less.

>>58326705
>she
samefag. or just another retard who think that guy is a she.

>>58326742
she's a girl, she's posted pics before

>>58326744
>she's posted pics before
"she" posted pics of some chinese model. you're dumb if you think that's really him. he never posted a timestamped pic of himself.

How to fix fonts in Gentoo? mine are shit

>>58326234
Default Linux font rendering is too wide looking, I don't like it.

>>58326774

That's large as fuck. Is the font that large for the entire site?

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cant beat it

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>>58326234
I prefer FireFox. Chromium's sometimes looks too thin, some other times looks too thick, and sometimes looks blurry - complete shit.

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>>58326774
>>58327328

take one without the page zoomed

>>58326234
Those are the exact same thing you fucking faggot

>>58327533

this

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R8 muh dick

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firefox master race reporting in

>>58326774
HiDPI, right? Looks great. 9/10

>>58327057
Windows? 8/10

>>58327228
9/10 what OS/browser?

>>58327328
9/10. what OS/browser?

>>58327533
>I prefer FireFox. Chromium's sometimes looks too thin, some other times looks too thick, and sometimes looks blurry - complete shit.
I have the complete opposite experience. FF always renders like shit.

>>58327561
Damn that looked sharp. OS/browser?

>>58327687
blurry/10. have you even adjusted your Cleartype? Honestly, this is the worst rendering in this thread by far.

>>58327728
6/10
even the small letter "i" is not properly subpixel aligned. just zoom in a bit and see for yourself. OS?

Everything looks the fucking same. What the fuck are you autistic faggots circlejerking for.

Seriously. Who the fuck even cares? It's just like that one faggot complaining about normies not removing the nvidia and intel stickers on their laptops right after buying them.

OP Here!

So, to give you some answers, left picture has Infinality rendering and the pic on the right is stock Arch rendered with all the fonts installed.

Interestingly, when you install all the fonts I listed, Chromium picks these fonts as default (pic related). And when you don't have all the fonts installed, it picks inferior knockoff versions of these fonts. I think this is the big reason why people don't like Linux-rendered webpages..

Install these fonts if you're on linux:

aur/ttf-mac-fonts 1-7
aur/ttf-vista-fonts 1-8
aur/ttf-ms-fonts 2.0-10
aur/ttf-ms-win10 10.0

And your font rendering will be great even without Infinality.

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>>58327998
sorry, forgot pic.

>>58327998
>>58326234
you'res looks like poop

>>58326234
The left one looks better to me, even though both are weak.

>>58327998
I really wonder why so many websites use Helvetica or Arial.
In my opinion, both suck on a screen.

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>>58327863
>>58327228
Windows 10, firefox default font settings

>>58327863
>>58327561
I was trying to make the point that if you zoom the page in it will make any font look good. This is the same as >>58327328 just zoomed. ctrl+9

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Why font rendering on android is so good?

>>58326234
I like the one on the left; the one on the right is ever-so-slightly blurry. They both look very nearly the same though, I had to look hard to notice the difference.

>>58329154

linked wrong post should be >>58327057 not >>58327228

>>58327863
mine is >>58327228 safari and macos 10.12.2

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fuck you, faggot

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Windows 10, Chrome

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Windows 7 + MacType on Firefox
wikipedia main page is a better example impo since it has various typefaces

>>58326234
/RAINBOW BLURRING/

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>>58328848
>>I really wonder why so many websites use Helvetica or Arial.
>In my opinion, both suck on a screen.
Hipsters. Apple used Helvetica Neue for one of the macOS versions and people hated it and then Apple created San Fancisco UI Text and it's literally god-tier for desktop.

You can grab SF UI off Github and add it to Linux and everything will look so much better. SF UI is similar to Segoe UI but Segoe UI doesn't render as well.

>>58329265
>I like the one on the left; the one on the right is ever-so-slightly blurry. They both look very nearly the same though, I had to look hard to notice the difference.
Sure. Infinality does seem to improve things a bit.

I've been told that you can improve infinality even more if you follow some good guides. I haven't come across any and just left it at default. So like you said, it does improve even when it's on default.

>>58329856
Windows has THE WORST white-text-on-black-background rendering of any OS. It's all rainbows.... maybe they're celebrating LGBT this way. Dunno.

>>58329929
in "what is 4chan" section, notice the heavy rainbowing of the letters? notice how letter "i" is purple and not black? Notice how "n" is half black half purple"?

Don't know why Microsoft can't get that shit right.

>>58330001
That looks 10x better than the pic above yours. Letters are actually black and only antialiasing is colored... because of subpixel rendering.

>>58330628
SF is the tits on linux with infinitaly.

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>>58329154
>I was trying to make the point that if you zoom the page in it will make any font look good. This is the same as >>58327328 just zoomed. ctrl+9
Can you take the screenshot with the page set at default size?

When I set my Chromium at default size (no zoom), 4chan CSS specifies 12px font height using Arial (pic related).

>>58331049
this
>>58327057
using firefox

>>58331142
When you zoom in, it does look pretty shitty. Notice how there's no consistency even between the letters that are the same.

>>58330628
rainbows? fucking /g/.

everything is disabled for battery mode, faggot. im not gonna switch to decicated video for screenshot.

>>58326234
i have no idea what any of those things you mentioned are, but the left one is better.

>>58331285
>everything is disabled for battery mode, faggot. im not gonna switch to decicated video for screenshot.
it clearly looks like shit. stop making up excuses.

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I win!
:3
semi-hint adobe-cff and MS Arial

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Still using a 1024x768

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I'm >>58330001
adding some light on dark + Wikipedia main page

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>update firefox
>looks like this now
lads how do i fix this? i use mactype but something happened when i updated firefox

>>58326234
>font rendering
I've been on /g/ for years now and I still don't get it. Do I have to look at my screen under a microscope to tell the difference or what?

>>58330628
Not the guy but now that you mention it i do notice the purpleness...

SO IS THIS WHAT HAPPENS WHEN FONT RENDERING IS NOT OPTIMIZED?

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I think it's quite good.

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>>58326234
>Also, show me YOUR font rendering of the https://4chan.org homepage.
Ok.

>>58331414
>semi-hint adobe-cff and MS Arial
all right dude, tell me how to do it under Arch. I googled and came up short.

>>58332092
>I've been on /g/ for years now and I still don't get it. Do I have to look at my screen under a microscope to tell the difference or what?
What OS do you use? If you use macOS or Linux, you can easily assign zoom to a key modifier and your scroll wheel. So you can easily zoom into pictures and see the pixels.

no idea about Windows....

>>58331419
looks ok even through there's some color fringing on subpixel borders.

OS/browser?

>>58332029
damn! that looks like total shit. how did FF disable subpixel rendering???

>>58332281
>I think it's quite good.
Look at the "I" of "International". not that good.

Also, you are not using fonts at 12 px. It's MUCH EASIER to render text at higher resolutions but it's difficult at 9, 10, 11 and 12 px sizes.

>>58332300
What font? It looks OK I guess... since it's at least 16px in size.

>>58333067
Pale Moon

         _,met$$$$$gg.           
      ,g$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$P.        OS: Debian 8.5 jessie
    ,g$$P""       """Y$$.".      Kernel: x86_64 Linux 
   ,$$P'              `$$$.      Uptime: 1d 16h 47m
  ',$$P       ,ggs.     `$$b:    Packages: 2720
  `d$$'     ,$P"'   .    $$$     Shell: bash 
   $$P      d$'     ,    $$P     Resolution: 1024x768
   $$:      $$.   -    ,d$$'     WM: Xfwm4
   $$\;      Y$b._   _,d$P'      WM Theme: Rele
   Y$$.    `.`"Y$$$$P"'          GTK Theme: Not Found [GTK2], Not Found [GTK3]
   `$$b      "-.__               Icon Theme: Not Found
    `Y$$                         Font: Not Found
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       `$$b.                     RAM: 
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Arch is best os

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>>58332019
atrocious kerning

>>58326234
What the fuck has hiro done with the front page

>>58336893
"""""""""""""""modern"""""""""""""""

"""""""""""""advertising"""""""""""""""""

also, /s4s/

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Browser: Firefox Developer Edition
OS: Debian Testing
Font: Noto Sans

No infinality patches installed. Just the config from https://wiki.debian.org/Fonts#Subpixel-hinting_and_Font-smoothing

MacOS font rendering is optimized for retina screens, otherwise fonts look somewhat blurry.

>>58326333
tfw X is working

>>58336976
Shitty kerning... Look at the lowercase f in the last line of the "What is 4chan" block. Or the "erna" of "International" in the popular threads list. Found this after 3 seconds. I can probably find 100s of other issues with your config, but I don't want to get eye cancer

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>>58326234
I need to fix it one day. Mint has the worst font rendering :(

Someone who thinks they have a good setup, post your fonts.conf.

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heil arch

>>58332029
happened to me too when i updated firefox. Had to tweak some settings in about:config page.

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windog 10

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>>58326364
you forgot to attach a smug anime loli

>>58327057
Perfection.

>>58335947
your font size is too big to make a comparison. don't use font scaling or zoom and post again.

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>>58337108
>Shitty kerning... Look at the lowercase f in the last line of the "What is 4chan" block. Or the "erna" of "International" in the popular threads list. Found this after 3 seconds. I can probably find 100s of other issues with your config, but I don't want to get eye cancer

Hmm... rn looks like m.
How do you fix kerning?

>>58337296
Actually, it has excellent font rendering but bad kerning (like all Linux-based OSes). Zoom in into your pic... it's one of the best subpixel renders in this thread.

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Any font rendering experts on here today? Which of these packages should I install to improve font rendering?

>>58342316
Atrocious font rendering anon. What OS/browser are you using? What does your font setup look like? You need to fix that shit.

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H-hey

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>>58342363
I was hoping someone would offer to help. It's OS X/Chrome. My eyes aren't very good.
I use infinality in arch on my other computer. It seems like my system fonts here are gorgeous but chrome's look kind of blurry.

>>58342530
>Helvetica
use San Francisco

>>58342530
Replace Helvetica with SF UI Text asap. That's your culprit.

>>58342615
>>58342639
It's not an option on the list. Do I have to install it? It's an apple font, figured it would be here.

What MacType profile is best for a 24" 1080p display?

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>>58342386
hmm... don't like how yours looks. something seems off. what OS is this? here's the same page in my browser.

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>>58342671
whoops

>>58342665
it comes with Sierra. if you don't have it, grab it off Github or some other site (do a search for it).

In the meantime, replace Helvetica with Arial.

>>58342671
>What MacType profile is best for a 24" 1080p display?
>>58342693
There really isn't "the best". It all depends on what YOU think looks the best. Try one of the xmac.lcd.hotshift profiles and switch between them until you find the one you prefer.

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>>58342700
I'm actually on sierra. The font in my original screenshot was Times new roman, I changed it to Arial.

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How do you set up your LaTeX documents for best font autism /g/?

I start with

\RequirePackage[l2tabu,orthodox]{nag}
\documentclass[paper=letter,fontsize=12pt,oneside]{scrartcl}

%% Fixers
\usepackage{fontspec}
\usepackage{realscripts}
\usepackage{xunicode}
\usepackage{polyglossia}

\usepackage[]{microtype}
\usepackage[top=1in, bottom=1in, left=1in, right=1in]{geometry}
\usepackage{amsmath}
\usepackage{mathtools}
\usepackage{fixmath}
\usepackage{unicode-math}
\usepackage[all,warning]{onlyamsmath}
\usepackage[english]{isodate}

>>58342766
Can you post the same page in Safari? Something looks fucky.

>>58342787

whoa, nice settings anon! I don't think I could improve on this.

btw, you know how some .PS files look like shit and you can't select text out of them? I was told that this was because of the fonts they chose. any idea how to never create shitty .PS files like that?

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>>58342826
Sure. The top is safari, the bottom is chrome. I disabled AppChanX so the colors would be the same.

>>58342885
They look improved due to Arial. Safari a tad better rendering. Anyway, huge improvement over Helvetica. helvetica is a shit UI font since it doesn't render well at small pixel sizes.

>>58342826
>>58342700
>>58342639
>>58342665
This guy has the same problem. Apparently I do need to install it anyway. http://apple.stackexchange.com/questions/208521/how-can-i-switch-chrome-to-display-web-pages-with-the-san-francisco-font-in-el-c

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Post wiki.png faggots

gentoo here

>>58342955
https://github.com/AppleDesignResources/SanFranciscoFont

but note that this is an older version. you can get the new one from Apple or from torrent sites.

>>58342994
can't find that link. what's the url?

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>>58343063

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>>58331414
>semi-hint adobe-cff a

Anyone know what this tripfag meant?

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>>58331414
no, I win

>>58345879
semi hint is medium hint in font settings i don't know what he meant by cff

>>58345879
>>58346069
It's adobe's font rasterizer, apparently, it's part of free type now and enabled by default.

What about his font do you guys think looks so nice? I don't notice much of a difference between the posts in this thread.

>>58346115
just curiosity.

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>>58346115
>It's adobe's font rasterizer, apparently, it's part of free type now and enabled by default.
Thanks. Any idea how to see if I have that thing enabled because I def do have freetype installed. I never figured out how to change FT settings.

>What about his font do you guys think looks so nice? I don't notice much of a difference between the posts in this thread.
I don't think it looks great. I just wanted to try it out and see if I can replicate it and compare it.

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Android 7.0 Nougat

>>58346305

Huge text is dead-easy to render nicely. Small text is not. So that pic is worthless since it's HiDPI screen.

that feel when i cant be bothered to fix my shit font rendering

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Linux google android cyanogenmodOS 6.0.1 reporting

>>58346746
post pic. wanna see how bad it is.
>>58347030
that's at least 16px text. so it doesn't matter.

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>>58326234
Using:
>freetype v2.7 (manually built for debian 9)
>firefox 50
>ms core and office fonts

since FT 2.7 it's possible to do this(and more)

FREETYPE_properties=cff:no-stem-darkening=0 FREETYPE_PROPERTIES=cff:no-stem-darkening=0 autofitter:no-stem-darkening=0 firefox&

>>58348512
oops, i pasted the command line twice ...

FREETYPE_PROPERTIES="cff:no-stem-darkening=0 \
                     autofitter:no-stem-darkening=0 \
                     truetype:interpreter-version=40 \
                     autofitter:warping=1" <your application> &

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>>58326234

Apple Macbook doesn't have this problem

>>58348854
Of course because the computer controls you.

>>58348982
>t.poorfag

>>58348739
What OS and browser is this? Looks really good.

>>58349650
Arch and Firefox

>>58348687
In which config file do I put this, anon?

>>58349659
Infinality? Custom settings?

>>58349682
I forgot

>>58326234
>>58326686
>>58326686
>>58326774
>>58327057
>>58327228
>>58327328
>>58327533
>>58327561
>>58327687
>>58327728
>>58329929
>>58330001
>>58331049
>>58331414
>>58331419
>>58335947
>>58337296
>>58346093
>>58347030
>>58348739
THEY ALL LOOK THE SAME WHAT'S WRONG WITH YOU PEOPLE

I dont see anything different with these fonts

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>>58326234

>>58351248
this is linux, how does this look different than the OSX images?

>>58351156
>>58351216
You have either shit eyes or shit monitors. Time to fix them. I bet you can't even tell the difference between a 128kbps MP3 and a FLAC either.

Zoom in, see the differences, and then you'll start paying attention.

And don't even get me started on kerning.. once you learn that, you'll get disgusted every time you walk down the street and see shop signs with disgusting kerning.

>>58351260
OSX has MUCH better kerning than Linux and a much better subpixel rendering for LCDs. You can fix subpixel rendering with Infinality (search for it in AUR).

>>58351393
The screenshot you are looking at IS Infinality. You literally just proved that youre a fucking moron.

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Ubanto reporting in

>>58351406
Huh? I never said it wasn't. I didn't even comment on your image nor did I ever open it.

>>58351436
>Zoom in, see the differences, and then you'll start paying attention.
>You have either shit eyes or shit monitors.
>(search for it in AUR).
clearly...

>>58351446
retard, your comprehension is shit. I was replying to ppl who posted BEFORE you.

can't you fucking comprehend basic English??

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>>58351458
You replied to me... lmao

keep going

>>58351458
you forgot that you're just replying to the same troll

Anyone still using GDIPP on Windows 7?

>>58351492
>you forgot that you're just replying to the same troll
yep, my bad. I bit the hook.