It's the current year. Is this safe to use?

It was never safe in any year.

>>58323262
>>58323288
Why wouldn't it be safe

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>>58323336
>using anything made by facebook

Discussing you know what is never safe

>>58323262
Nothing is safe, if you think about it.

>>58323354
It wasn't made by facebook

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>>58323354
>made by
I thought they just bought them

Safe for what? WhatsApp don't care about the dumb conversations you have with your friends.

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>>58323262
Make your own encrypted chat service.

>>58323414
Then how come it's free of charge and has no ads? Why would Facebook buy such company? What would they gain?

>>58323262
Safe from who? Define your threat model motherfucker!

>>58323434
they did it out of the goodness of their hearts

>>58323434
https://www.google.ie/amp/www.forbes.com/sites/ianmorris/2016/01/27/whatsapp-may-have-the-perfect-way-to-make-money/

>>58323584
This is all conjecture though right?

>>58323619
Yeah you're right, I skimmed the first paragraph.

>>58323451
This.

Positives:
>Like a billion people use it - so a good network effect of friends having it, and it doesn't stick out
>All message contents are very strongly end-to-end encrypted with the best protocol around (Signal) and the best transport protocol (Noise).
>Contact discovery is easy for normies because phone numbers are used to identify accounts

Negatives:
>Metadata is not strongly protected
>It's closed-source - WhatsApp *could* backdoor it, although *to date* they have strongly resisted this
>It does not strongly resist censorship (see Brazil), although enough people use it that there are sometimes outcries when they do
>Phone numbers are used to identify accounts, vulnerable to SS7 hijacking/phreaking
>Phone numbers are shared with parent company Facebook, which are used for (amongst other things) anti-spam machine learning and contact discovery - note this can be a big, dangerous identity compartmentation leak for some people (although if you've used the Facebook mobile app then it's already too late)

I've talked to Facebook about this; unfortunately while grassroots understand, higher management have yet to see the problem. I don't expect any sea changes.