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/mpv/ - still the best?

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Yes mpv has awesome features like:
- Popular high quality scaling algorithms.
- Accurate frame timing with reclock features.
- Perfect color management.
- ...

But there are still major problems:
- Old hardware have weird stutterings on windows with the angle backend.
- Some old hardware doesn't work with win and dxinterop backends.
- Tearing is still a problem on latest linux distributions!
- Some user scripts like stats.lua are messing video playback.
- ...

I can't advice it for windows users anymore. :(
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mpv newfag here. How do I change settings? The manual says edit a config file that doesn't exist in the folder I downloaded (windows)
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>>58318971
You make a text file. type in your settings, change the filename to mpv.conf and save it in the folder where you have mpv.exe.
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>>58318971
You can download recent build here:
https://sourceforge.net/projects/mpv-player-windows/files/

There is a .cmd file that create a mpv.conf file for you!
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>>58318926
You literally need to compile a script to open a file.

Autists please go
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>>58319104
You don't need compilation, just put your .lua scripts in a scripts folder.
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The mpv biggest problem is opengl, that's it!
Proper d3d support is probably just a dream and vulkan support will not help people with old hardware.
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>>58318926
>- Old hardware have weird stutterings on windows with the angle backend.
Depends on the hardware, obviously. I have a GTX 670 with Windows 10 and I've been using the ANGLE backend since it was added with no issue at all. It's even more CPU and GPU efficient than MPC-HC/madVR with comparable settings, and it's also more stable. madVR crashes sometimes when the video window is moved between monitors.

>- Tearing is still a problem on latest linux distributions!
Never had this problem either. Debian sid, Intel HD Graphics 4400, xf86-modesetting and kwin with OpenGL 3.1 compositing. Jest werks.

I guess the more popular mpv gets, the more people will try to run it on ancient/bizarre/underpowered hardware.
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>>58318926
>- Some user scripts like stats.lua are messing video playback.
what? I've never had issues. can you provide proof?
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>>58318926
works on my 8 year old laptop with win 7

¯\_(ツ)_/¯
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>>58319698
Not OP, but I've noticed this. stats.lua renders a shitload of ASS each frame, so if your CPU can't keep up, it can bottleneck video rendering.
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>>58319795
Works fine with my i5 and i7 CPUs
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>https://forum.doom9.org/showthread.php?p=1791960#post1791960
>Using 23 hz and de-judder option looks amazing.
What does he mean? Does madVR have a de-judder option now?
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>>58320171
no
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>>58319795
disabling the graphs might help
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>>58318926
>Some user scripts like stats.lua are messing video playback.
huh?

Oh well this happens when the dumbfucks think that having everything as a .lua file script would be a smart idea, even to have on-top while playing and not while paused you need a fucking script, thats still dumb to me.

Some things should just be added as default.
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What's the current status of mochi-player and mpc-qt frontends?
Do you already use one of them? Are they good?
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>http://www.phoronix.com/scan.php?page=news_item&px=HDMI-2.1-Announced
Ahhhhh finally!
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Does youtube-dl even works anymore with youtube? I can't seem to make it work
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>>58323213
yes retard. update it.
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>>58323213
Update your youtube-dl...
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Can some please redpill me on mpv. I've always installed and used VLC only for years because it just werks.

Does mpv also just work out of the box? I don't have to change any settings or install codecs or any of the other shit? That's really what's keeping me from leaving VLC.
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>>58323792
Is trying it yourself THAT hard?
And no, literally just open a file with mpv, then click twice on the window to fullscreen (or use --fs argument when launching from CLI) and enjoy your stupid B movie.
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>>58323792
works out of the box, works better (matter of preference) with a few tweaks

mpv out of the box is still much better than vlc and mpc-hc out of the box
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>>58323792
You don't have to change a damn thing unless you want it to work better for your hardware. Same as MPC-HC and VLC really.
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>>58323792
>I've always installed and used VLC only for years because it just werks.
>because it just werks.
LIE DETECTED
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>>58323283
>>58323645
It was a certificate problem, not an older build problem
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The Apple Macbook Pro with Retina Display doesn't have these problems.
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>>58324525
The macbook is the problem here...
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the job of your media player is not to dance around shit hardware.
>>58319104
>compiling a script
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>>58318926
I don't know about you but mpv is what handles big encodes the best on my piece of shit 6 year old i3 laptop
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>>58325445
Not my problem if you are used to use shitty things.
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>>58318926
>tfw no problems for OS X
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>>58326001
Haha! It doesn't work at all on oldish OSX and have severe issues with latest one!
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>>58323792

The only time I tried VLC it couldn't render a fucking ASS subtitle.
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VLC is the only real player.
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>>58325994
If by shitty things you mean MPC and VLC, sure.
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Here's my alias to use my intel igpu for everything, also uses mp4 downloads because thats the only thing I can hardware decode on my cpu.

FPS is 48 because thats what my display runs at, mpv is the only program which doesn't cause screen tearing due to fps issues.

mpv --vo=opengl --display-fps=48 --hwdec=vaapi --vd-lavc-fast --audio-pitch-correction=yes --ad-lavc-threads=0 --scale=bilinear --cscale=bilinear --dscale=mitchell --video-sync=display-resample --opengl-pbo --deband --hdr-tone-mapping=hable --ytdl-format=mp4
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>>58326827
It's the worst modern option.
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>>58326889
Not that guy, but what about for Android? What's the best option?
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>>58326916
MX Player.
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>>58326930
I have a galaxy s7 edge, what codec do I need to download?
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>>58326916
mpv
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>>58327013
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>>58327013
Read the Downloading section and follow Method 1.

https://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=46190935&postcount=2
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>>58327054
Please explain why my question makes no sense or fuck off with your elitist attitude
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>>58327066
Thank you, kind anon.
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Should I still use linux for htpc and windows for games?
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>>58327242
Well yeah why wouldn't you. You're using the linux machine as a backend to other devices though right.
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>>58326916
There's already mpv in play store m8
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>>58318926
I have no tearing on Linux. Using AMD open source drivers.
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>>58318926
Last MPV build in which I can use d3d is the one from november. The one from december works only in opengl (with terrible bad performance). So much for this player..
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>>58318926
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>>58328444
Give video file.
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>>58328444
dumb anime poster
>inb4 you post the same webm again
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>>58319070
>Hosting your projects on sourceforge

Lol and in the current year. I had a feeling mpv was a meme and now it's confirmed
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>>58328689
That's not official.
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>>58328689
>he's never even tried using mpv
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>>58328753
I actually have and I went back to VLC immediately. It's more mature and polished
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>>58328784
>went back to vlc
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>>58329010
>mac
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>>58328444
>>58328677
>>58329010
Loving this meme. Spoiler alert for people who didn't see this when it was first posted two years ago: It's VDA's fault. macOS is shit.

https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues/1052

mpv uses VideoToolbox instead of VDA these days anyway, so who knows if this "bug" still exists.
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>>58318926
>- Old hardware have weird stutterings on windows with the angle backend.
Hello foozor, my old friend

now kys
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>>58318926
>- Old hardware have weird stutterings on windows with the angle backend.
>- Some old hardware doesn't work with win and dxinterop backends.
windows is irrelevant

- Tearing is still a problem on latest linux distributions!
works4me

- Some user scripts like stats.lua are messing video playback.
works4me. No fucking clue what you're trying to talk about
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>>58319795
>>58319825
The only time it blows up for me is when the video title contains a lot of CJK characters that my OSD font doesn't contain. For some reason it fails at finding a fallback font and instead shows a crossed out square in place of the glyph.

When the title has many such characters, whatever it's trying to do takes ages and the video starts stuttering for as long as it's drawing the filename

It's also not a stats.lua issue, because the default “show filename” keybinding has the same issue. Also, it seems like it's korean characters in particular that it can't find on my system, since japanese and chinese both render fine.
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>>58331783
Also, I installed a korean font and now it works
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>>58322141
What's wrong with Lua? It's literally the easiest as fuck language to understand
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>>58323008
>HDMI desperately trying to stay relevant by adding features that DisplayPort has had for ages
Why can't they just fucking give up already

DisplayPort has *always* been better than HDMI, since the moment the two came onto the market. I just wish GPU/monitor manufacturers would stop putting HDMI connectors on their devices
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mpv works just fine for me on Windows, as for Linux I don't think it's mpvs problem, but that Xorg is just complete shit.
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>>58326001
https://github.com/mpv-player/mpv/issues?q=is%3Aissue+is%3Aopen+label%3Aosx
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>>58327086
Go away stupid phoneposter
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>>58328784
>VLC more mature than mpv
that's funny considering mpv is older
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>>58331833
99.9% of mpv bug reports can be traved down to GPU drivers being shit
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Does mpv reload/open the file whenever you have it on loop? or is that only with youtube-dl?
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Homebrew user here. What install flags should I use, if any? I just want mpv to play any file I throw at it without playback issues.
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>>58331911
Based on that behaviour with youtube-dl (those of us with slow connections curse you mpv devs) I'd say it does reload it.
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mplayer master race
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>>58331826

Because DRM/HDPC.

Literally the only reason HDMI is still being shilled.
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>>58328784
>not using at least MPC-HC

>>58331856
No it's not.
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>>58332248
>No it's not.
I assume anon meant if traced back to its roots.
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>>58331911
mpv doesn't reload the file if you use --loop-file and the file is still in cache
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>>58332248
>No it's not.
mpv's initial commit is 2000, VLC's is 2001
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>>58332392
I am using the keybind, what do you mean by cache, mind helping me with that?
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>>58318926
There is cccp for windoze
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>>58332441
People still use that?
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>>58318926
another newfag here how do you get videos to loop?
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>>58332790
--loop-file
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>>58332790
shift L
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I've got an i5-6600 and a 1060 6GB - anyone have a good .conf for this?
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>>58332856
thanks
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>>58332813
>>58332856
or by putting this in your config
[extension.webm]
loop-file=inf

add any file format you want
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>>58332896
profile=opengl-hq
opengl-pbo=yes
opengl-backend=dxinterop

tscale=oversample
interpolation=yes
#blend-subtitles=yes
video-sync=display-resample

scale=ewa_lanczossharp


download youtube-dl and put it alongside the folder mpv.exe is in as well.

I recommend you try out the scalers for mpv and choose for yourself.
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>>58332968
how did you know he' s on windows?
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>>58332983
I just guessed? but I guess you are right I should of removed dxinterop
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>>58332992
if he is he should add
priority=high
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>>58333016
Doesn't do much to be honest, MPV has been opening up pretty slow for me lately but I think its my computer.
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what do these do?
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>>58327013
>>58333055
>using any thread with mpv in the title to ask unrelated multimedia questions
Hate this meme 2bh.
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>>58332983
guess he's psychic

>>58332992
>>58333016
thanks.
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I can't understand config tutorial
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>>58333366
search for "mpv conf" for examples
what are you trying to do?
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>>58333444
>No-border
Noice
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Tell me why I should use mpv player over potplayer?
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>>58333055
Tune the encoder to optimize for different metrics.

Basically, to establish some amount of objectivity when reviewing stuff like video codecs or algorithms, people have long ago started introducing “similarity metrics”, for example PSNR (peak-signal-noise-ratio), or SSIM (structural similary). These metrics are essentially functions that take two images A, B as an input and produce a “similarity” score, e.g. PSNR(A, B) = 50 dB (higher being better)

People then use metrics like these for e.g. “objectively” comparing x264 to x265, vp9 or whatever.

Now the matter of fact is that in practice, these metrics are pretty arbitrary, and only poorly capture the concept of “visual quality” which is a very subjective phenomenon. They are also all slightly biased towards certain types of errors. For example, PSNR is biased towards “smooth” codecs (most notably wavelet codecs like JPEG 2000), which is why JPEG 2000 appears to perform better than JPEG when measuring PSNR, even though most humans would agree tha the smoothing artifacts of JPEG 2000 are more annoying than the DCT quantization noise of normal JPEG.

Since x264 etc. normally optimize as aggressively as possible towards psychovisual quality (e.g. taking into account frequency masking), they will usually perform unfavorably when using these “pseudo-objective” metrics as a reference, because PSNR punishes stuff like visual masking and rewards smoothness at the cost of detail.

Because industry loves to troll and use stuff like PSNR or SSIM as marketing fuel to push their shitty meme codecs (like JPEG 2000, which is an absolutely god-awful terrible codec that nobody should be using yet somehow managed to find its way into DCP because of lobbying), x264 etc. have pre-emptively added profiles which ignore actual visual quality and instead try to aggressively optimize towards PSNR or whatever the fuck stupid metric you want to use on its output.
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>>58334076
Also, “zero latency” here just means ”optimize for low-latency encoding instead of trying to maximize quality”, which is good for realtime streaming.

And “grain” probably just means “optimize for content with heavy grain” or something, not sure on that one.
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How do you keybind to change between scale=?
for some reason
cycle-values scale "ewa_lanczossharp"

Changes it, but I don't see any change compare to what I see when I dscale.

tl;dr feels like the scale= is not changing.
>>58334056
No reasons, I honestly just got a bit used to it due to youtube-dl.
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>>58332441
nobody uses that
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