ITT: truth

>>58288720
>he doesn't care about the constitution and how quickly the government can turn tyrannical if SHTF

You need to understand that these people are mostly actual pedophiles and criminals who want to stay secret from the bad gubmint

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>>58288744
>"and this is my wife's son's faraday caged bomb shelter"

>>58288720
>guy with access to data centre writes program to sift for certain keywords related to embarrassing material
>guy sells dossiers of said embarrassing material on the dark web
>one day you get an email
>"anon, wouldn't it be terrible for your employer to find out you like _____? Pay us $50 or we'll leak the information."

Why don't you move to North Korea if you want the government to spy on you so much?

>>58288803
>"Ad hominem is the fallacy directed against a person or person's lifestyle rather than the argument or propositions. "

>I don't care that the gestapo is listening to my phone calls because I'm loyal to the fuhrer

>>58288720
I work in an analytics company and I sometimes have fun looking at people's data.

>>58288884
>gets made fun of
>WELL YOUR JUST DOING AD HOMINEM!!!

your post was literally just a slippery slope in the first place so you are in no position to try and pull out high school english class fallacies

fucking tool

>>58288884
>something something am i being detained something something my president is literally hitler
>argue with me
You must provide a legitimate, thorough opinion to get an adequate answer.

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>python isn't a bad programming language because it simplifies things and allows extensive importing. It's actually a great programing language because of these things
>it is the proper progression of technology to be able to complete a task in a more simplified manner
>just like creating C so we don't have to use assembly, and creating assembly so we don't have to physically program, and creating programming and automation in general so we don't have to do things manually, ...
>using a more complex language in protest doesn't make you smarter, it makes you more resistant to change
>you should learn the more complex ones for the sake of learning, not for actual use (with the exception of common enterprise languages such as Java and C#)
>the real problems with python are only that it's interpreted (which is remedied with compiled python), and that newcomers who use the language may be encouraged to just import everything as a solution without gaining a deeper understanding of why they are importing something or how the library they import from works and how they can build on it if any pieces they need are missing (which is remedied by that user not being an idiot)

>>58288940
>>58288950
What one of the reasons the constitution was drafted for is now a slippery slope? Take a history class sometime

>>58288851
As long as the thing you like isn't illegal what's the problem? They can't fire me for watching french maid porn at home.

>>58289085
you don't torrent movies? you don't say nigger? you have no piece of information or message you've ever sent you wouldn't want to become public?

>>58289085
Yes they can, you dumb or something? The old CEO of Mozilla got ousted for donating to support traditional marriage.

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>>58288720

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rfqaqimVFuA

>>58288913
I work at an EE company and I sometimes have fun fixing people's cattle brush controllers.

>>58289085
legally you can be sexually attracted to kids, as long as you don't act on it it isn't a crime - you'd still be outcasted and probably fired for it though

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>/g/ is a terrible place for people actually interested in programming or discussing the academic aspects of technology
>this place is a sinkhole of consumer good discussion and is basically /v/-tier console war bullshit with cellphones and pc parts
>you'd be better off lurking stackoverflow and shitposting on /sci/ than trying to discuss technology/programming as it pertains to ethics, concepts, and design on this board.

>>58289124
>you don't torrent movies? you don't say nigger?
No.
>you have no piece of information or message you've ever sent you wouldn't want to become public?
Encryption prevents third parties and WhatsApp from having plaintext access to messages or calls. What’s more, even if encryption keys from a user’s device are ever physically compromised, they cannot be used to go back in time to decrypt previously transmitted messages.

>>58288720
>anyone working at an analytics department will tell you that they CAN'T CARE LESS about the actual people behind the data

Those working in marketing do.

I don't want spam.

>>58289124
Nope. I say nigger, but that's covered under free speech, and it's not like I'm doing any of that on company computers.
>>58289136
That's the Mozilla guy. I'm not running an SJW Corp or working for one, so I'm good.
>>58289153
You should be fired for that though, you sick freak.

>>58288720
>he thinks oppressive governments don't exist

>>58289194
>Encryption prevents third parties and WhatsApp from having plaintext access to messages or calls.
and you know the companies do this how? because they say they do - the NSA can literally, legally order a company to lie about not being able to read users messages
>What’s more, even if encryption keys from a user’s device are ever physically compromised, they cannot be used to go back in time to decrypt previously transmitted messages.
name one algorithm in which a message can only be decrypted once
>>58289216
>Nope. I say nigger, but that's covered under free speech, and it's not like I'm doing any of that on company computers.
ok start posting the word nigger on facebook and using it casually and see how long you're employed for
>You should be fired for that though, you sick freak.
I'm not a pedo but
>someone should be fired for a sexual preference they have no control over

>>58289211
>Those working in marketing do.
No, they work with statistics provided by analytics.
>I don't want spam.
If anything, Gmail has been filtering spam with 99,9% accuracy for the last 5 years, you should try it sometime.

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>>58289249
>the NSA can literally, legally order a company to lie about not being able to read users messages
Proofs?

>>58289194
>messages or calls
Oh, so you think google wouldn't give up everything they have on you, is that it? You think your ISP wouldn't hand over logs of all your activity on the internet.

You cannot expect encryption to stop this because your data must be decrypted at some point and you have no real control over the individuals who have access to the data at that point. Even if the larger entity itself (google) has no intention of giving your data away, there is little to stop corrupt individuals (google employees) from abusing their access. This applies to any and all groups that are amassing data on you for national security, marketing, market analysis, etc. By the way, it's already known that these companies themselves already peddle dossiers on individuals, nevermind individuals trying to blackmail you.

>>58289282
the snowden movie and the snowden leaks or just google it also this is literally what the government tried doing with lavabit, making him backdoor the encryption and giving him a gag order to prevent him from being able to let users know third parties can read users emails

>>58289249
>post it on Facebook
Why would I do that? That would be me purposefully ruining my social status instead of being blackmailed.

There is a difference between me being an asshole in public and my employer receiving notice that I do certain things in my spare time off the clock. One ruins the image of the company publicly since the assumption is that I will also extend my actions into the corporate environment, the other is just my employer finding out I have thoughts which differ from the corporate statement, but I'm willing to keep my mouth shut and do what I need to do during work hours.

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>>58289249
>LOL I GOT FIRED FOR SAYING NIGGER? FUCKING FREE SPEECH IS DEAD!

>>58289216
>that's the Mozilla guy
Yeah, someone who actually matters. He has more protection than you do. Perhaps you're unaware of how easy it is to fire someone for arbitrary reasons. You might not even know it's because you looked at a bunch of tranny porn on the internet.

>>58289324
You said "literally, legally" - there must be a law, act, bill? Can you point me at it? I'm not supposed to make a research every time someone makes a statement. You should be able to support your point of view, until then it's an opinion, not a fact.

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>>58289249
I normally hate XKCD but in this comic they're 100% spot on

>>58289381
>what are FISA courts, the post

>>58288720

Your understanding of the subject is superficial to the point where it makes you look stupid. You really think you can create argument for the """""""truth""""""" about an issue as complex as data privacy in 4 meme arrows.

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>>58288720
>they CAN'T CARE LESS
>they still collect it
does
not
compute

>>58289381
FISA courts, gag orders, mandatory backdoors, PRISM

>>58289614
maybe you should have read the actual sentence instead of just a couple words

>>58289614
It's collected for marketing and product development. You'd be more at risk of someone you know reading leaked information from the company and using that information as leverage over you than the company itself doing anything heinous to you.

>>58289620
>they do not care about your data anon stop worrying!
>it's uninteresting as fuck anon!!!
>yet they still dedicate time, money and resources to do it.

Once again.

Does not compute.

If they didn't care and the data was uninteresting they wouldn't do it.

>>58289664
>It's collected for marketing and product development.
You now admitted that the purpose of them doing that is malicious and evil.

Thank you for letting me prove my point anon.

>>58289675
did you reply to me by accident?

>>58289829
Yes I did.
And yes I didn't notice