>apps that /g/ swears are not botnets, but actually are botnets.

>>58288193
THIS
WhatsApp is way more secure.

>>58288224
>WhatsApp is way more secure.

Fuck off. It's worse than Signal.

>>58288224
You realize Moxie also wrote WhatsApp's encryption right?

>>58288342
>implying you can prove there is encryption in a closed source app

>>58288342
>Moxie

*Matthew Rosenfeld

>>58288342
>WhatsApp's encryption

lol like that exists

>>58289292
>hurr durr it's a closed source app so it must be evil
Remember how the app was blocked in Brazil because WhatsApp refused to show them some messages?

>>58288193
So, since Signal is open source, can you tell me what actions can be executed on my phone from their c&c server?

>>58289352
>implying that proves anything, but the stupidity of the Brazilian government

>>58288193
Signal is open source

>>58288406
>>58289399
>implying you can prove there is no encryption in a closed source app

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>>58288193
>be Matthew (((Rosenfeld)))
>use fake name so people download your botnet
/pol/ was right again

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I'll just leave this here.

>>58288427
>Matthew Rosenfeld
Is this his real name? May I have source?

>>58289352
Facebook is richer than the entire country of Brazil

>>58288193
>arguing about botnet software running on botnet hardware

>>58289475
That wasn't implied at all.

>>58289617
Nice, the only thing you forgot was
>audited

>>58289641
And?

>>58288342
You’re not very bright.

>>58289359
The server is not open source.

>>58290169
Why are you lying on the internet, anon?

>>58290169
Everything the app can do is still visible in the source code.
You could at least link to some lines/functions in the github repo, that back up your statements.

>>58289633
http://privacy-pc.com/moxie-marlinspike

>botnet
You keep using that word, I do not think it means what you think it means

>>58288193
>-needs google play services to work
microG
push is only used for device wakeup, no message content
>-is only distributed via the Play store
has there yet been a continuation of LibreSignal?

>>58289633
>Today's example comes to us via blog post by hacker/security wonk Moxie Marlinspike. Yes, he has a name like an animated supervillain, but he also sports an impressive resume. As an independent security researcher, Marlinspike (whose birth name is probably Matthew Rosenfeld)

http://www.infoworld.com/article/2614588/cringely/now-hiring-hackers--leave-your-lulz-and-your-ethics-at-the-door.html

>>58290334
>has there yet been a continuation of LibreSignal?

no

>>58290334
there is a fork called Noise in the fdroid repository from copperheados, which does not use google play services

>>58293071
Silence is another fork that is on f-droid and frequently updated

>>58293574
It still doesn't fix all the problems Signal has.

>>58289617
Outdated as fuck
Telegram added a lot of features listed as missing in the table

>>58289612
most people aren't antisemites

>>58288193
Kill yourself noob

>>58295100
The problems Signal has won't be solved unless everyone throws away there phones and starts walking FOSS laptops around like stallman.

>>58288193
>only on play store
Aptoide

Just use libresignal you dumb niggers.

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>amerilards still use sms as their primary form of comunication

>>58289735
Who audited it?

>>58296121
nobody

>>58296105
>imessage is mms

>>58288193
What the fuck are you on, it's open and free software.

Ok, so tell me what I should use instead.

>>58288193
>-needs your phone number and contacts
Replacement for SMS messenger, makes sense.
>-needs google play services to work
Uses the Cloud/Firebase Messenger service to handle message delivery and Push notifications, the servers are robust without having to provide their own servers and require the application to keep the device awake more to maintain connections.
>-is only distributed via the Play store
>-can only be used from the one device that is most trackable, your smartphone
>-author uses the obviously fake name of Moxie Marlinspike. Real name is Matthew Rosenfeld.

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>>58298418
see >>58295999

>>58295870
liar

>>58295999
>>58299173
>This project was abandoned because Moxie Marlinspike said he was not OK with LibreSignal using the Open Whisper Systems servers and the name "Signal".
nice

>>58299186
Yes and it still works fine. Without connection to googles servers.
>muh updates
why update from something that just works

>>58296105
Really? I didn't think people still used SMS anywhere, haven't used it in at least seven years.
t. Citizen of Merkelstan

>>58295870
That's because they're ignorant.

>>58288193
Signal's whole business model is to get acquired by either google or facebook as soon as possible. Every technical decision they took aims to boost their value as a corporate asset.

Signal is just Whatsapp with less features and way less users.
>still needs your phone number
>still no proper web app or desktop client

Let me know when you have something good.
If Wire makes their server open source it's game over.

>>Signal cannot work without connecting to google
>someone makes a fork that does exactly that
>>D-d-d-DELET THIS
why is moxie such a cuck

>>58300411
>>>Signal cannot work without connecting to google
>>someone makes a fork that does exactly that
>>>D-d-d-DELET THIS
>why is moxie such a cuck
This, fucking hell.

>>58295999
I don't want my phone dead in less than three hours.

>talking to other people
What the fuck are you doing

>>58288406
You can inspect the network traffic. That alone wouldn't prove they can't decrypt your messages, but it could easily show whether or not encryption is being used.

>>58289612
>(((
What is this nigger meme?

>>58302466
It's a way to signal that someone is a Jew. A way to let your comrades know to proceed with caution.

>>58300075
>Signal's whole business model is to get acquired by either google or facebook as soon as possible.

how do you acquire open source code?

>>58302703
Sounds like newfaggotry. If you don't know Jewish names patterns by heart, you're retarded.

Went through the hoops to install Signal on a non Google phone. Install it on gf's phone. Sent message. She gets it one day later.
Dropped.

>>58302708
you acquire the company/developers.
if signal gets many users, you can't expect a non-signal fork to catch up any time soon.

>>58299208
What is your non-proprietary alternative, fellow kraut?

>implying anyone cares about Signal
Sadly normies dictate what you use if you have any social life.
I barely manage without Facebook ffs.
Whatsapp was inevitable.

>>58288193
Proton mail.Needs Play services to work.

>>58288193
It's on F-Droid too but it's called Silence.

>>58303719
Like fuck they do. Your normie friends all have phone numbers to text or call if they won't use decent software otherwise.

>>58304356
They usually don't have phone credits.
I live in a shit country. Also it's essential for image/document sharing.

>>58304892
They also have an email address.

>>58305911
Pain in the ass, only old people use that.
I personally like that concept but none of my friends would use that just because of me.

>>58305940
He said, having never asked his so-called "friends" if they could communicate via email instead of facebook.

>>58303719

No, you force them to use a more secure platform. And you tell them why they should. Why would anyone change anything if people like us just keep yielding to the masses?

>>58306522
That's my main point. Old people and aunts dictate what you use and they refuse to change because they fear of new UI and stuff like that.
You'll only end up alone on platform of your choice.

>>58300075
I've seen this exact post verbatim before. What did signal do to you?

>>58303101
It's also a way of calling them out to let them know we know who they are.

>>58307650
That doesn't make it any less stupid.
Here I'll explain.
Louis Rossmann (that guy who fixes shit on YouTube)
>Rossmann
See? Greentext has the same effect as your retarded newfag memetics.

>>58302466
There was an addon to Google chrome that was showing jewish last names like that

>>58302466
>>58303101
>>58307776
kys

>>58288193
>>58288224
>talking about security on your proprietary shit phone
nice MEME

wickr me, end of the thread

>>58311504
fuck off, mr. robot fan

>>58288193
4chan is under constant JIDF shilling, so of course /g/ would shill for the jew who made signal.

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>>58288427
>Matthew (((Rosenfeld)))

>>58295846
telegram still has no secret chat on desktop app.

>>58312160
>4chan is under constant stormfag shilling
ftfy

>>58312211
>shill for the jew who demands you use google services
>this is somehow okay

Name 1 alternative to Signal that is open source and doesn't use Google play services at all.

Protip: PGP email doesn't count.

>>58312437
https://conversations.im

>>58312437
>signal
>google services
>opensource
wut?

>>58312437
libresignal.
silence.
pgp mail. you are retarded if you think this is more effort then texting.

>>58312437
xabber. it has OTR built in.

Kik

I only use it because all my friends do.

>>58299191
Security you idiot.

>>58312507
Mail is always more effort than texting.

>>58313457
t. retard.

seriously. why is this board such a cesspool of normalfags.
this is on the same level as saying irc is more effort than memecord.