Is this man correct?

who cares

>>58277758
That's one way of doing it, I guess.

>>58277758
i mean yeah. if people don't know what's in it, then they won't break into your files and take it.

that's exactly why people on the darknet are able to buy and sell drugs so easily. post office legally can't open your shit unless they have reason to believe.

>>58277758
What happens if the courier is intercepted?

>>58277804
Ask Bin Laden.

Because that's how we found out where he was.

>>58277758
Yes

Couldn't care less. Just got my leatherbound journal from etsy with the word "Cyber" burnt into the front. All my sensitive information gets written inside. I'd like to see some insectoid chink escalate privileges on that.

>>58277758
exposes you to a vastly easier man in the middle attack.

however if you're in the USA and you are found to be intercepting letters you have a 98% chance of being convicted and found guilty.

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>>58277804
Use one time pad methods. Impossible to break.

>>58277804
Could there be a good system to detect it? Maybe self-destructing mail, or just analyze fingerprints or something..

Alternatively i guess you could write it encoded, and exchange the secret key through some other means, so they'd have to hack both

>>58277758
Rusians use typewriters to type secret documents, I can't think how that is not a wrong idea.

>>58277828
>vastly easier
Email is literally sent unencripted through hundreds of routers and cables, and possibly infected computers.

Doing a man in the middle on mail would require much more effort per message. Especially if you can't tell beforehand which messages are worthy of analyzing and which aren't.

You can just sniff email traffic easily and use keywords, you cant do that on real mail, you'd have to carefully open and manually analyze them all, and it would be harder to hide your tracks while doing so

>>58277804
Have the courier be tracked by GPS 24/7 or wear an ankle bracelet.

>>58277758
taken out of context by the media, again

>>58277895
>use courier
>still rely heavily on computers
>wat

>>58277902
if you use gps in your car, doesn't mean your car can be hacked

>>58277895
>>58277902
Hide the message inside an encrypted scroll that only a Dan Brown character could solve.

>>58277840
What do you think of encrypted faxes?

Are encrypted fax machines worst or better than emailing?

>>58277944
But what if Dan Brown becomes compromised? What then??

>>58277935
>implying they wouldn't just hack the computer your using to view the GPS coordinates, or the GPS sat system entirely, or chop off the courier's leg to make it look like all is well

>>58277827
Hahaha

>courier is the russian hacker

>>58277790

Carrier pigeons work really well, too.

>>58277804

Latest cyberthreat: Robin Hood in tights.

>>58278004
PLOT TWIST

>>58277758
I guess there isnt anything wrong with it, but if his reasoning is to avoid hackers its pants on head retarded. physical mail is way easier to forge, intercept or destroy

>>58277836
So basically return to WW2 methods again? Stuff would take so long to arrive it'd become irrelevant, and you couldn't act quickly

>>58277962
Phone lines can still be eavesdropped.
But then again, if you use some isolated network to communicate, you may not fear Russian hackers to hack into your computer networks - there must be no physical connection between worldwide network and special government telcos.

>>58277758
No, he's a fucking retard
>hurr durr, just go back to the 400 Century BCE and do what they did, hurr
I can't believe this dumbass piece of shit is President now. Shows how much of America is braindead and legally retarded.

>>58278090
it would just be for the most important communications, even if it takes a couple of days to arrive it shouldn't be too bad.

>>58277807
>believing the official story
Burger, pls

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>it's another /pol/ thread

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>>58277895
Mnemonic couriers

>>58278187
That movie was so good

>>58277935
GPS in your computer is not the same as the system you proposed. GPS in your car does not need to send data back to a server. If you want to track the courier via GPS it would need an internet connection to relay co-ordinates. Which can be hacked

>>58278187
>>58278206
This.

>>58278173
every /pol/ on thread that isn't about shilling the latest and greatest technology is /pol/b8

>>58278125
>there must be no physical connection between worldwide network and special government telcos.
As an anectode, for a job I once had to do some stuff in a high security facility, they had you leave your passport at entrance and go through body scanners, and their machine was not connected to the internet, but the folks still allowed me to plug a usb into it so i copied all their data, then copied it on my laptop.
They erased my usb before i left, but i had everything on my laptop already. People can be silly.

Also, there are some hacking techniques that dont require a physical connection, sometimes just through electromagnetism or sound waves can be enough.


>>58278152
that's actually already in place in several countries as far as i know though. The most secret things are usually kept offline.

A new age of bike messengers is upon us
Can't stop, don't want tah

>>58277758
I'm willing to bet the DNC agrees.

>>58278274
>that's actually already in place in several countries as far as i know though. The most secret things are usually kept offline.
No it's not. Besides, it's one of the most retarded ideas in this day and age with unprecedented surveillance capabilities.

No, teach people how to use GPG encryption.

Of course, the majority of people in politics know little outside of Microsoft's office applications, so it's pretty difficult to expect them to know how to use such an """""advanced"""" program.

Knowing how to use PGP should be mandatory, tbqh.

>>58277804
what happens if the courier is a special forces unit with machine guns and grenades?

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>>58277758

Reminds me of this.

>>58278301
>"""""advanced""""
Take your Jew hate elsewhere.

So Trump's infrastructure plan was just hiring pigeons to relay messages huh?

>>58277758
Mailman here. USPS is allowed to read your mail without your knowledge, unless it's express mail. In that case it's money over invasion privacy.

>>58278334
>Jew hate
What the fuck are you on about?

>>58278355
jokes on them, my handwriting is really bad so they could never understand it

>>58278363
>Using the '''Jew''' indicators.
Ban this guy.

>>58278428
Are you me?

>>58277773
A lot people

>>58278430
((())) is the hook-nose sign. Go troll somewhere else.

>>58278494
You'll be hearing from my attorney, buster!

>>58278494
what are you guys even going on about, stay on topic please

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>>58277758
>>58277790
>>58277804
>>58277828
>>58277836
>>58277840
>>58277870
>>58277895
>>58277962
>>58278031
>>58278090
>>58278274
>Having to walk on eggshells for fear of Russian hackers hacking and intercepting your campaign, newsletters, and to-do-list emails
>Not, simply strengthening security, adding layers of encryption, and enforcing the law against known countries causing the data breaches
It's not like you're emailing the nuclear codes - although, considering it's Trump we're talking about, he might be stupid enough to actually do that.

>>58278072
>>58278152
this

>>58278004
lol

>>58277758
Doing that might actually create enough jobs to save us from another great depression.

>>58278587
Did trump just singlehandedly saved the us from cyber and created fulle employment?
MAGA

>>58277758
Proof he has no secret ties to the Russians.

>>58278621
>proving a negative

>>58277758
If it was, why do you think shit like SIPRnet and JWICS exists?
Defense corporations are more than happy with encryption over secure lines.

>>58277896
And what is the context for that?

>>58278187
I WANT ROOM SERVICE!!!

>>58277758
No.
>What is TLS
>What is PGP

>>58277758
too impractical given all the shit that needs to be sent, and courier can get fucked up along the way too easily

>>58278955
Utterly useless if the machine at either end is compromised. If you're using a courier you can air gap. Still not impossible to snoop on but a lot harder.

>>58277870
>needing messages from bases around the world to reach you nearly instantly
sadly the flash does not exist, would make for a great courier service.

>>58277758
>Not using those vacuum tubes like they have at bank drive thrus.

>>58279008
ICBMs do and they're nearly impossible to intercept.

>>58278986
>Utterly useless if the machine at either end is compromised.
Same can be said about couriers

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>>58277758

>>58278328
cool retrofuturism.

>>58277804
It's it possible to send the message encoded in some way?

>>58279028
which proves my point
how the fk is a nuclear sub gnna know they have to use their boomerangs before the world already ends? is aquaman going to be the new mailman now that the flash doesn't exist?

>>58277758
Trump = Admiral Adama.

>>58281541
Is Hillary a cylon?

>>58281655
Hillary is the Imperious Leader lizard in the 70's show. Trump is Terl in Battlefield Earth trying to get leverage because muh gold.

>>58277835
Highly impractical and too much overhead requirements for true encryption

>>58277836
Or we create specific in house machines that have machine language instruction designed to decode the data contained in the letters and make it readable and encrypt those messages on top of that in addition to having fingerprint scanners on the machine as requirement for opening the mail and including self destruct mechanisms on the machines in the event someone tries to read the mail with incorrect fingerprint ID. The machines aren't sold to the public. They're in house and used for communication on private networks. Any worker using nonsecure communication channels is discharged immediately, and possibly jailed depending on the information involved.

>>58281755
Also all communications are handwritten on the machine with a tablet and pen. No typing up information.

>>58279028
Rather an expensive and dangerous way to send a report on diplomatic dinners.

>>58279028
>We have the new troop deployment details sir.
>Right load up a Minuteman soldure and set the target to Fort Bliss.

>>58277758
>Not training your own legion of pigeons who carry pieces of data in binary form and randomly change their formation mid air to avoid detection

Get on my level faggots

>>58284374
RFC 1149 retard.

>>58278004
>>58278032
>Trump is the Russian hacker

>>58281728

sure kid

>>58277758
What he's actually saying is that he wants to increase HUMINT.
>employment of more spies

Welcome to the police state, ladyboys and faggotmen.

>>58277804
Then he'll start he's journey through the mojave wastelands.

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>>58277758
>2017
>the only way to avoid cyber attacks is to stop using technology

>>58277840
i'll put a keylogger on a type writer

>>58277804
Apache helicopter escort

>>58277758
Osama was located through a courier

>>58277804

you won't even know who the courier is

>>58277758
The most vulnerable aspect of technology is the human element. Technology is easier to hack when using social engineering to exploit that most weak weakness in technology. So basically, he wants to downgrade and add more of a human base for encryption, low level human 'encryption.' Basically, this is just another dumbass suggestion by your """"god-emperor"""".

>>58277807
>found
Anon I think you should off watching CNN for a little while.

What is the longest message one can hide in his anus?

>>58277758
What if the person receiving the documents talks about them on the phone?

> everything else that is net-connected
> not hacking the nuclear power station instead

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Yes, but you could also lace snail mail with Ricin, Anthrax, or other uber-toxins. You can already mail drugs quite easily, the underfunded USPS will never catch you.

>>58278206
No it fucking wasn't.

In the book, the doped up dolphin is at the top of the sprawl, which is a city built on top of a city, which was built on top of a city. In the film, the dolphin is on top of an unfinished highway bridge.

fucksake.

>>58277944
Or take it a step further and go back to using Navajo wind talkers

>>58281686
>battlefield earth
>literally what scientologists believe is the origin story of humanity

>>58284835
That's pretty much why some states don't use political electronic machines.

>>58285602
the F.B.I. will

What he says:

>Deliver documents via courier to avoid cyber attacks

What he means:

>Deliver documents containing evidence of corruption via courier so that there is no paper trail when they are destroyed

>>58286684
>when they are destroyed
Like, with a cloth or something?

What if you put messages in a laptop then send that through courier

>>58277840
Not just Russians. Germans started using them for highest security stuff once they realized the NSA has a microphone everywhere.

>>58286684
What he says:
>Deliver documents via courier to avoid cyber attacks
What he means:
>do it just like the russians

>>58278328
Pretty damn on point

>>58284843
Thw KGB have been doing that since 1976 against the US embasy in Moscow, best of all you can do it with nothing nut a good mic and a bit of prosessing.

https://news.google.com/newspapers?nid=1310&dat=19861008&id=nNwzAAAAIBAJ&sjid=hOEDAAAAIBAJ&pg=3309,1752848&hl=en

>>58281728
The british were doing it with carrier pigeons in WW2, don't tell me that bullshit

Well, it became painfully obvious that the man didn't know that encryption was a thing with the whole Apple thing. Now he wants to ban encryption and make US officials stop using modern communication methods.

You elected a fucking Luddite into office. God job, /pol/

>>58287100
ask someone who fought in WWII how that worked. they'll tell you it was shit. and the enigma machine was the bane of their existence.

>>58287119
But the Enigma machine was cracked and there are british one time pads that the keys are lost for which still have never been cracked

So it clearly worked

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>>58277758
well, Drumpf is a complete idiot. just sayin'

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>>58287100
>carrier pigeons

>>58287135
Do you know what worked better than carrier pigeons? Radio. Fucking radio.

>>58287135
practically speaking, computing as we recognize it was invented to break enigma.

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>>58287140
Some of them even got medals for their gallant service

>>58278316
No no that's the guy who's supposed to rescue the courier.

>>58278316
Then your courier obviously sticks out and is an easily identifiable target. But I guess that's the American way, which is why you got hit by so many IEDs in Afghanistan, meanwhile countries that instead of arming up and driving around in heavily armoured tanks just drove an open truck and relied on intel because, you know, they talked to the locals rather than just shooting them, never got hit by them.

>>58277758
no, he never is.

>>58277804
>writing courier messages in plain text

That aside, they cannot intercept the courier from across an ocean, they require a physical presence to intercept it. Not to say that is difficult for a nation state to have operatives capable of doing that within US borders-- but the consequences of getting apprehended are more severe as there is far less deniability.

They would also be subject to US law.

The US has historically had problems fighting enemies that rely on such forms of communication.

>>58287233
>never
He was right about winning the election, though. Also about jews and black people.

>>58287233
Just like how he was wrong about winning Wisconsin

>>58287241
>>58287250
Don't you guys have some minorities to harass?

>>58287275
Harassing liberals is just as funny.

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>>58277758
>>58287233
>>58287138
>>58278585

This actually might be one of the smartest things he can do.

Think about it, if you want to keep something secret, you keep it offline.

>>58287241
His "winning" margin was -2.9 million or -2.1%. That's Charlie levels of winning there.

>>58287310
It doesn't matter, he played the game and won in strategic districts. And he, or rather his team, predicted it. He took everyone completely by surprise.

Seems sensible if used correctly. Politicians and officials that lack computer skills do not appear to deal well with security even when told how to do it. Banning them from sending anything sensitive via computer may not be a bad idea, otherwise you need full time handlers watching them to make sure they don't fuck up the cyber.

Of course if it's time sensitive or unreasonable to courier then they can go and get someone properly trained to handle electronic communication.

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>>58287310
its called playing the game dip shit. Both knew that it was not about getting the populate vote, it was about getting electoral votes.

Dumb bitch should have spent more time in the midwest.

Its like playing CTF and claiming you won because your team had more kills.

>>58287352
>non-ironically using vidya analogies

This place has truly become /v/

>>58287310
Maybe if Hillary made a single stop in Wisconsin during the general things would have gone differently.

>>58277807

That's not even the official story dumbass, one of his wives snitched because she was jealous of a newer one.