Single Board Computers

>>58208916
I killed my Pi0

>>58208931
Why/how?

>>58208916
is there one with quad Ethernet?

>>58208991
Not as far as I know, but you could check out HackerBoards. There are a lot of quad Ethernet machines on AliExpress, but they do get relatively expensive.

>>58208916
Which one do you think is better?

>>58209131
I'd say the RPi3, it's the best combination of community support and processing capabilities. Although I'm interested in the ODROIDs since they're more capable and have a decent community, too. The BBB is also decent, but the processor is really showing its age.

>>58208916
1x RPi 2
1x OPi pc

Thinkan about getting OPi pc 2 for that sweet 1000Mbit NIC

Just got a pi 3 for Christmas and I'm using it as a vidya emulation station

>>58209010
banana pi routers

original PiB
Pi2
Pi3
Pi0

>>58209182
Does the original OPi PC have SATA?

Anyone have the pine a64 if so how is it and how is the support?

>>58209210
How does it run? I'm thinking of getting one but am worried it won't run mame very well

>>58209258
It does not. If you want to use it as a NAS, you have to connect an external HDD to the USB2.

>>58209269
It runs pretty good so far but I haven't tried anything above 4th gen. MAME should be fine.

>>58209282
OK, so the Orange Pi Plus and Plus 2 have it, gotcha.

what's the absolute cheapest mini-computer i can order online?

>>58208916
How's the orange pi compared to the rpi?

>>58209575
pi zero, if you can buy it from the right place

>>58209675
right, i've been reading up on this chip thing that's supposed to come out this month and retail for 9$, is there any catch i'm not aware of?

>>58208916
On raspian can I download files from the internet like you can on any windows PC? Or is it strictly from commands?

Is there a SBC with a good sound output already?

Would love to turn one into a mini MP3 player, but it always turns out being XBOXHUEG. Rpi Zero would be the perfect MP3 player if it had a sound output.

>>58209725
C.H.I.P. has less support by a MASSIVE margin. Unless you are very good with this kind of stuff and can get by with less documentation and online help, pi zero will be way eaiser to work with.

>>58209854
thought so, there's a local listing for an orange pi pc priced at 25$, i'm probably going to end up buying that and making a shitty little server, thanks for the info

>>58209725
If there's a micro center near you, they're selling pi zero's for 99 cents. You can only buy one at a time but you can just leave and come back.

So /g/ are there good freedom-friendly SBCs around?

-no proprietary bootloader
-works with mainline Linux/BSD/other free OS, or the custom kernel fork for it isn't full with GPL violations
-essential SoC features work without non-free firmwares or modules (0 fucks given about 3d acceleration, hardware level video decoding, chips not in the SoC that can be replaced by USB devices like WiFi or BT)

>>58209891
I wouldn't buy that, since I think buying it new isn't much more expensive.

>>58209619
Better bang for the buck, less support.

>>58209731
You can, it comes with a GUI.

>>58209891
Buying an Orange Pi pc directly from china costs 15USD
Buying the upgrade, the pc 2 costs 20USD.
Don't buy from local listings
official store: https://www.aliexpress.com/store/1553371

>>58209986
I read about one called the AutismPi

>>58209534
what are you using it for?
i'm looking into buying a cyclone V soc board cos' a soft core CPU in my DE0-nano is slow as shit

>>58209575
The Orange Pi Zero can be found for 6.99 dollars on AliExpress. It is much better than the Pi Zero:

>Quad-Core 1.2GHz
>10/100 Ethernet
>Fullsize USB 2.0 port

The cheapest model only has 256MB of RAM, though. The 8.99 model has the same 512MB as the Pi Zero though.

>>58210765
Does the ethernet use a separate data bus or is it shared with the USB like on the raspberries ?

>>58210795
No idea, Anon.

>>58208916
Reminder that DROID C2 outperforms a Rpi 3:

CPU of 2.0 GHZ with integrated heatsink.
2 GB RAM.
GPU of 700 MHz.
HDMI 2 40K 60 FPS.
h265 video compression.
microSD + eMMC for storage.
4 USB 2.0 + microUSB OTG.
40 pin UART.
10/100/1000 LAN 1GB Ehternet .
New ARM64 technology.

>>58210765
Forgot to say it comes with Wi-Fi too.

>>58210816
Does it have wifi?

Looking to get a cheap SBC with WiFi for a pretty simple project. I don't really have any big needs aside from it having WiFi. What's my cheapest option?

>>58209266
Support is lacking. Video playback is pretty rough, although not as bad if you're willing to use Android.

>>58210899
Orange Pi Zero
Built in WiFi
7$

>>58210932
Thanks!

>>58210816
I'd grab one if it weren't for the fact that I already had some RPi3s.

I'm going to purchase the Pi 3 for emulation and I'll probably be overclocking the thing just for kicks. However, I have no idea how hot the thing gets, not even with stock clocks. Should I bother slapping some little heat sinks on the CPU and other chips?

>>58210857
You need a separate dongle for that, but with 4 USB that is no problem.

Although it does come with an infrared receiver.

Why is it so difficult to find a case that holds (and powers) a Pi and a HDD

>>58211080
Little heatsinks will definitely help, I OC'd my Pi 1 and I could feel those things heating up.

>>58211109
Try looking on Thingiverse, might be able to 3D print something.

OP here, found this neat website, should help discern what SBC is best for your use: https://www.board-db.org/

>>58209210
No shaders though right?

Plus owners are Lefty af

>>58208916
CubieBoard 2
GoFlex Net
Raspberry Pi
SheevaPlug

>>58211838
I've got a SheevaPlug, too, wondering where I can get more cheap plug computers.

>>58208916
Damn! How do you fit them all in your ass?

>>58211937
Git gud lube breh

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>>58211937

Raspi B+, now retired because I got:

Orange Pi Pc2, it's fucking great

At the moment not for everyone tho, you better know how to compile a kernel and stuff

>>58212038
How/where do you learn those things?

Anyone here with experience on cross compiling? I plan on doing a LFS and need basic advice, as to how to install the bootloader and such.

Anything.

>RasPi successful
>People start buying these things thinking they're magic because they fell for shilling
>They don't know what to down and now they're using them as emulators
Really? Is that how pathetic society is gotten? "hurrr I dunno I'll just be useless and play video games more"

just got my opi zero

Where should i go for general info? Since the official site is quite lackluster and im new to sbc's

>>58216667
You might want to look into tutorials for the RasPi, it should be close enough to do the same on any ARM SBCs

>>58217111
OPi forums, and install Armbian on it.

>>58217000
>two rpi model B
>one as a onion-PI
>the other was reverse ssh backdoor at my old job on their encrypted wifi

hey would a RPI be ok to make a source control repository? those online repos are too expensive.

>>58219768
>Backdoor
Elaborate?

>>58219770
It'd probably work if you're not putting too much load on it.

>>58209230
Do they still sell these? I can't find them anywhere.

I could get into this shit. Could get one for the girlfriend for comp sci self learning projects too.
Recommendations for a decent comp sci graduate who happens to be NEET? (s'complicated yo)

>>58210765
And it has abso-fucking-lutely zero support. I bought one and it's a fucking mess. The rom from the chinks is useless, armbian support doesn't exist yet, and the H2+ isn't used anywhere else so there's no community.

>>58219867
it would be for game development, one project at a time, but itd have to work with some big files.

>>58219919
Should be OK, might want to see if anyone else has done it, though.

>>58219912
I'm running Armbian on mine, I got it off their website.

>>58219945
thanks boyo, i'll do a quick research

>>58208916
Are any of these capable of being powered over a computer's USB port? I want to add wireless N support to a few old machines with USB 1.1 using a SBC, usb wifi adapter and ethernet.

>>58219945
>>58219912
Link to Armbian build: https://www.armbian.com/orange-pi-zero/

>>58219967
I know that the RPi Zero does for sure, not sure about anything else. I wouldn't see the use in N support if you're bottlenecked by USB 1.1, though. Plus, why not just buy a dongle?

>>58219996
Its gonna be powered by the USB port and connect to the computer using eithernet (both machines i want this for are decade old laptops wit gigabit ethernet)
There are NO usb dongles compatible with OS9 that i have found.

>>58220041
Seems cool, no idea how you'd go about setting that up, but good luck!

>>58219867
rpi with tor on it, I did reverse ssh over tor back to tor hidden service. With tools to scan network and do other various stuff, this was back in 2013.

>>58209725
CHIP can't power any USB peripheral that draws more than 200mA.

You need powered hub if the device you intend to plug in draws more than 200mA.

>>58220512
good enough for keyboards, mice, probably bluetooth adapters, maybe some wifi adapters, probably most flash drives
not going to power a 2.5" hdd though

>>58219892
AliExpress

I've got a Creator Ci20, Pi Zero, and a Pinguino Micro (with higher end microcontroller so it can run RetroBSD) if you want to count microcontrollers. Next up is a Creator Ci40.

Odroid-C1
Odroid-C2

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>first and only one yet with a ryf cert
>baller retro pcmcia housing
i'm so psyched
y'all better buy this thing
https://www.crowdsupply.com/eoma68/micro-desktop

>>58208991
it's called a switch

>>58209476
Are the SATA ports just on the USB bus though?

>>58221684
Yes.
Only the original BPi has a real port.

1 Raspberry Pi 2
1 Raspberry Pi 3
1 Raspberry Pi 0
1 NTC Chip
2 NanoPi Neo
2 OrangePi PC
6 OrangePi One

I ordered an onion omega2 a few months back; still haven't received it.

>>58210899
If you need Linux, get an OrangePi Zero/One, NanoPi Neo.

If you just want some webinterface for your blinking led, get a NodeMCU for 2.5$.

orange pi is garbage

Does anyone sell an SBC with a reasonably strong SoC that doesn't have Ethernet/full-size USB ports? All the low-profile stuff uses weaker CPUs.

>>58222250
You could always just desolder the connectors on a board that otherwise fits your needs.

>>58222284
Yeah, fair enough. I'd rather not go through unnecessary work if possible, though.

>>58222424
I'm not saying you should settle for doing that, I'm just pointing out that worse comes to worst you can make it work

>>58222424
most people want full ethernet/usb ports
the only ones without them are ones aiming for low size over just about anything else

so your best solution is to just remove those ports on something that it otherwise ideal

What's the point of pi zero? With no network connectivity I might as well get a MSP430 and add a ESP8266.

>>58222908
What if you want more processing power? Say for example I wanted to make my own dashcam. No need for networking, just need an SD card, flash drive maybe, and give it power.

>>58208916
2 Pi B
1 Pi 3

>>58208991
just get a normal router
most people don't need 4 different networks anyways

>>58223162
Sure but is it really what the people buying rpi wants? I mean the average rpi buyer is going to attach a powered USB hub and remove any advantage of going small form factor.

>>58223515
Then they should buy a regular pi.

Nothing wrong with the pi zero when it is being used appropriately.

>>58223515
These people just want a low price, forgetting all the hubs and adapters they will need.

The Pi Zero is onlz really useful for custom game consoles (but way underpowered) or some robotics (but without connectivity).

The only thing I like about it is that its flat.

>>58223641
>Then they should buy a regular pi.
Yeah but really if they added wifi to it then they would have hit a larger market.
>Nothing wrong with the pi zero when it is being used appropriately.
The people that buy rpi for "embedded" work do it over an arduino because they can accomplish things with a few python scripts and have network connectivity.

>>58224506
>The only thing I like about it is that its flat.
I have to agree. I guess I could add a custom ESP8266 for network connectivity but it would have been way nicer if such functionality was built in.

>>58221414
Found em, thanks!

>>58222030
Software is, not hardware.

>>58225188
Why is software garbage?

whats the best wifi dongle for a raspi?

>>58225221
It's not very well supported, and there isn't a big community.

>>58225302
Depends, I've been using my TP Link TL-W722N (https://www.amazon.com/TP-Link-N150-Wireless-Adapter-TL-WN722N/dp/B002SZEOLG?tag=wireless2016-20) for it because space isn't an issue for me.

>>58208916
Juno r3 + DStream

>>58225486
Wouldn't installing debian on the orange pi be as simple as copying the arm port to a card and setting the boot flag?

>>58225763
There are drivers and kernel changes that are needed, I believe, just install Armbian.

1 x PandaBoard
>tfw no support
What can you do with the Pi?

>>58225824
Loads of things, mainly servers and all, but I do have one running a security camera with Motion on it that uploads videos to Dropbox when there's any activity detected.

>>58225824
3x PandaBoard (2xOMAP4430 + 1xOMAP4460)

>>58225958
Thats 1st gen Razr and Galaxy Nexus era, isn't it? I miss those days sometimes, when android was still fun.

>>58225994
pretty much yep
also era of Cortex-A9 erratas

s/SBCs/dust collectors/

Mediakek
amLOLgic
broadcum

pick none

Are there any cheap non-ARM SBCs?
I want to fuck around with PowerPC or MIPS too.

>>58226389
I don't know about PowerPC boards but Intel does have some stuff. The all in one PC (chromecast/firestick like device w/hdmi) is pretty cheap at under $100 or around there new. They also have atom boards that are kind of cheapish.

>>58226558
I thought firesticks/fire tvs/chromecast were all ARM as well.

>>58226586
They are but intel has something like one of those but it's an x86 pc on a stick. I was giving an idea of what it looks like size wise.

http://www.intel.com/content/www/us/en/compute-stick/intel-compute-stick.html

>>58226586
He just meant similar form factor. They're called Intel Compute Sticks.

>>58226586
>>58226611
Basically something they would sell for thin clients.

>>58208916
RPi 2
Also opened my laptop and it only has a single board, does it count?

I would think an Odroid to be a better purchase than the Pi boards if you plan on using it for any sort of media or emulation. The RPi seemed kind of anemic for that specific purpose at least to me.

>>58226697
Generally, yes, the only benefit of the Pi is the community.

>>58210530
>he didn't buy the de0-nano SoC
bad mistake

>>58219912
Why do you need support from the vendor?
Why can't you just install any arbitrary linux distribution that supports ARM? Oh right because ARM sucks.

Raspberry Pi 4 with quad Cortex-A73, dual Gigabit Ethernet, and dual SATA when?

>>58226389
You can get the Ci20 for $65 and the Ci40 for ~$100. I know there are PowerPC SBCs but they're not the kind intended for hobbyists and cost a few hundred (at least the ones I've found)

>>58227484
>He didn't buy the DE1-SOC
laughing_whores.jpg

>>58228069
10+ years, if you want it to be $35

>>58228069
>duel sata
but why

>>58221648
Oh it's actually happening? Thought these things were dead in the water.

>>58221648
How does this work/what is it?

>>58228069
>mfw
>Raspberry Pi 4 with quad Cortex-A73, dual Gigabit Ethernet, and dual SATA when?
>still custom GIC instead of gicv3

>>58229895
>duel

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>>58230999

>>58221979
I currently own a RPi 2. I tried to use it as a linux PC to mess around and do my programming exercises on but it is too laggy to use it for those reasons. Is there any significant difference between rpi2 and rpi3 on lag issues?

Any anon can answer ofc

>>58209156
Got an odorous and they're pretty well documented, trying to set up a radius server for the house which is going dismally, but mostly due to my ineptitude

>>58232197
Not by a big margin. If you really want to use an SBC as a computer, you'll need something more powerful like the Odroid XU4 or an intel sbc even.

But at that point you arent too far away from the price of a Thinkpad or something which will give you a better experience probably.

It also depends on your projects of course. Python scripts will run just fine on a Pi, graphical java applications not so much.

>>58232492
Huh, what would you need the RADIUS server for?

>>58209854
Chip just works out of the box, no flashing necessary. Plus it's based on Debian so relatively good package support. And if you do need to reflash there's a simple web utility.

>>58232197
Adding to >>58234573, I own an Odroid C" myself and the thing is fast.

Buy an emmc and it might outperform some desktop computers.

>>58221648
What other systems like this exist? Could do with one for traveling.

>>58235484
How much does an eMMC module cost? Is it worth it?

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>>58236412
Where I live they cost the double than the odroid alone, but is worth it, see the pic. My machine boots in less than two seconds.

Is a midway solid state drive.

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Opinions/Experiences with the Windows 10 Build for Raspberry Pi?

How does it run? Can it actually run proper windows programs, or just stuff especially made for ARM CPU's?

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:D

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post good x86 boards

>>58208991
There is a banana pi for routers which should have at least 4 Ethernet

>>58239256
It has no GUI if that's what you meant by proper windows program. Programs would need to be specially compiled for ARM unless you're using JAVA or some other scripting application.

>>58239256
Its just the Windows 10 IOT core, not real Windows. A little useless t b h

>>58239273
I hope you are creating some AI for it.

Anyone know some flat SBCs?

>>58208916
You didnt include the nanopi and nanopi air

>>58208991
Why not some cheap wifi ap, like tplink wdr3600 or archer c7? U can slam an opensource linux on them and turn off wifi, if u like

>>58210816
This.

Anyone buying an RPi3 is doing it wrong.

>>58239616
You know that there are 6 or so NanoPis, even more OrangePis, several Olimex boards, Roseapple Pi and Lychee Pi. Even more uncommon ones too

>>58239616
The thread is "Post Your SBCs", I don't have a NanoPi of any kind.

what is the cheapest sbc i can get that has:
>analog audio output
>wi-fi or bluetooth
>20+ gpio
>1 remaining usb port

Need all these features for a project but it looks like the cheaper boards always lack one of these.

OrangePi is for KEKS.

>>58240796
Nice shitposting, care to explain?

>>58240666
Look at >>58211265

I want to buy an OrangePi but >>>>>>AllWinner

>>58239273
Which SBC are those?

>>58240908
RPi

Is there a guide to Orange Pi's? The names are confusing as fuck

>Orange Pi
>Orange Pi PC
>Orange Pi PC2
>Orange Pi PC2+
>Orange Pi Plus
>Orange Pi Plus 2 PC
>Orange Pi Plus 2 PC H3
Fuck off

>>58240926
Street Fighter 2 Turbo Hyper Championship edition

>>58240666
>>58240842
Looks like the orange pi zero has all that, but the the analog audio is through the 13 pin header.
Is it a direct pin connection or do i need to do any kind of conversion?

>>58240944
https://www.aliexpress.com/item/New-Orange-Pi-Zreo-Expansion-board-Interface-board-Development-board-beyond-Raspberry-Pi/32770665186.html

>Orange-Pi-Zreo
>Zreo
ZREO

>>58240215
>I don't have a NanoPi of any kind.
That doesnt make since. You dont like small chips?

>>58240926
Right now you should just buy Orange Pi PC2 or the Zero. Remember that if you buy them you should expect absolutely zero GPU support. They are only useful for headless projects.

>>58241100
but do i actually need that module or can i just wire it directly?
I don't need any of he other shit on that module.

Just gutted my old 7970 to get a heatsink for my RPi 3 boys!

I want to somehow intercept/redirect calls. Is this somehow possible using a Pi? Basically whenever somebody dials a specific number in the vicinity of the Pi, I want it to either just log it or redirect it.

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>>58241152
My guess would be no. You can clearly see resistors and capacitors leading to the jack.
I could be wrong though.

>>58241119
Maybe I should get one, no clue.

>>58241187
I think you'd need a GSM module or something, I don't think this is possible...

>>58241187
https://hackaday.com/2016/04/08/build-your-own-gsm-base-station-for-fun-and-profit/

The module is 500 bucks

>>58241335
What's the jail time for using something like this to block a 911 call?

>>58241341
Not worth it years

Does anyone have an ideal to sort of power everything from a single cable?
Like an example would be having 3 HDDs and 4 RPis in one hub? I havent had any luck finding something like that for microusb

>>58241341
One trip in the white van, well deserved torture, and death by accident

>>58241335
What can we do about GSM being so fucked? CDMA networks here in the US suck, too, because you're locked with one by your phone.

>>58241152
You can just plug in an amplifier and your speakers. Can recommend the PAM8403 for small speakers.

You can also use a NanoPi Neo, I'm using that for an Airplay speaker right now. Its even smaller and uses the H3, so support is there.

>>58241295
NanoPis are nice, better documentation and support from FriendlyArm, but they are more expensive. If you just wanna use Armbian, OrangePis are fine. The NanoPi A64 looks promising though, might beat the OPi PC 2 and Pine 64.

>>58240926
The PC line is the median. Same size as Raspberry Pi, Several USB, LAN, Pi-compliant PIN headers, etc.
The Plus adds other features to this like SATA, EMMC.
The One / Lite / Zero subtract features for a smaller footprint and lower price point.

Also most models you listed dont exist.

>>58242036
Cool, will look into the NanoPi, then.

>>58242036
The NanoPi Neo has no wi-fi or bluetooth and the Neo air looks like it has no analog audio.
The orange pi zero is looking better in the price point too but i cant find any info on the analog audio output it is supposed to have.

>>58239256
>Opinions/Experiences with the Windows 10 Build for Raspberry Pi?
It's utterly useless, it's for making like a connected toaster or some shit if you're too Windownsy to figure out linux. Doesn't boot to desktop just runs whatever you code then burn to it via Visual Studio

>>58242949
Horrifying

>>58242949
Kek, they couldn't get the Windows GUI footprint light enough to run on a Pi.

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>>58239256
you'll have better luck running x86 windows programs with linux running an x86 version of wine with the qemu-user binary interpreter

pic related, running a a 64bit ARM version of arch out of a chroot seamlessly on a x86_64 machine
as opposed to a full VM, only the cpu is emulated

>>58239273
What do the do?

Unrelated, but does anyone know of a microcontroller that is Bluetooth capable and can act as an HID device?

Anyone here did stuff through the serial? Like installing a different OS.

>>58247657
I did it for the Beaglebone Black.

>>58247775
I plan to do it on an Odroid, I am still not sure if one can send the image over serial, is that possible? Any tip would do.

>>58242520
I'm using UsB wifi, there is one port and another exposed by pins.

The OPi Zero has pins for analog audio, they are in the row where USB and tvout are.

>ctrl+f
>tegra k1
>zero results
So I'm the only one rocking one of these pieces of junk?

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>>58249491

>>58249491
Why'd you get one?

>>58243513
Even if they could, what would you run on it?

One of the awesome things about Linux is just how much is open and can be easily recompiled to be available just about anywhere.

>>58250172
True.

Might be better suited to /sqt/ but does anyone know any decent projects I could make with some of these? Gonna try to fuck my Pi0 inside an SNES controller and for some basic emulation. I wanna crack out the soldering iron for some bigger projects but I'm not creative.

>>58249946
I was torn between it and an Athlon 5350 build, but went with the TK1. Cheaper, smaller footprint, less power & heat, and this was in 2014 when dev boards were pushing power and GPU. It's a beefy board, but poor software at launch and being a complete bitch to flash the OS leave me resenting it a little.

>>58250456
You mean electronic gizmos or appliances? Try an alarm system or home automation if you want to tinker. Kodi, seedbox, or NAS for an appliance.

>>58250559
Yeah thinking something along those lines, got a kodi/NAS/etc setup already, might try some home automation though and invest in an arduino.

Is software support shitty (in general) for non RPi boards?

>>58208916
Which one of these nigger boards could run Kodi without lagging like fuck?

>>58250638
I was about to tell you that it depends on what you want, but in reality almost everything you want to do is quite the same for all ARM boards.

Once you go Linux, you'll understand everything looks alike under the hood, and whenever you need references and tutorials, you just use the most common. Like, googling for what you want to do but replacing the name of your board with the most common board used for what you try to do.

Hardware related stuff is an entire different subject of course. Stuff like messing around with the GPIO.

Installing stuff from source though, that is a different story. I'm trying to port a new distro myself, that is one is a real challenge as of now.

>>58250672
ODROID C2, outperforms a Rpi 3:

CPU of 2.0 GHZ with integrated heatsink.
2 GB RAM.
GPU of 700 MHz.
HDMI 2 40K 60 FPS.
h265 video compression.
microSD + eMMC for storage.
4 USB 2.0 + microUSB OTG.
40 pin UART.
10/100/1000 LAN.
ARM64 technology.

Just remember to buy the eMMC >>58236587

>>58250799
>heating issues
>u have to buy our power supply since fuck micro usb lol
>would you like the storage drive to install the OS on? That's extra.
>good goy, believe the price tag we put on the board

>>58250773
I've decent experience with Linux but I've never even ran it on ARM before, prior to buying a Pi0. Will take a look though thanks

>>58250987
>thinking a heatsink as a problem and not a plus
>implying you want to spend an USB to power the board
>pretending the eMMC is necessary and not optional
>being this butthurt at the price tag

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>>58250987
>>heating issues
Where?

>>u have to buy our power supply since fuck micro usb lol
It does have micro USB?

>>would you like the storage drive to install the OS on? That's extra.
It's the same with pretty much all SBCs, most don't have onboard storage.

>>good goy, believe the price tag we put on the board
It's only $45.

>>58250987
>u have to buy our power supply since fuck micro usb lol

http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php?tab_idx=2
>"You can also power the C2 via this port using stable 5V/2A USB charger".
Happy?

>>58251123
Is talking about the Micro USB OTG port btw

>>58248051
You might be able to do it over the USB OTG port, not sure.

>>58251064
Does any ODROID come with the newer S912 Amlogic chipset?

>>58209210
Go to emuparadise for PSX games. Go to the Eboot section for mult-disc games like Metal Gear and Final Fantasy.
>>58209269
You can run MAME stuff like Street Fighter 3 with no issues. Tekken and Virtua Fighter are a no go.

>>58252074
>Tekken and Virtua Fighter are a no go
This is why ODROID is becoming popular on this board https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rn10J9K58YA

>>58252382
>using an xbox 360 wireless controller

>>58251036
the way they boot is different, but besides that, everything else is pretty much the same, just the binaries are compiled for ARM rather than x86

there's very little x86-only foss linux software (for example, pcsx2 uses some x86 assembly, so it can't just be compiled for ARM as-is, not that pcsx2 would run well on a tiny cpu anyway), so most things will be available

>>58250773
yea, if you're familiar with linux (in general) and have a reasonable understanding of hardware, the popularity advantage of the rpi boards means little
the advantage is that you can use rpi stuff as-is without any understanding on rpi boards, but if you understand what's happening, most of it is easily adaptable to other boards

>>58253074
Not all though. If you get an unpopular board you might find youself with disappointing drivers or no hw acceleration. Of course you can port things over yourself, but it's pretty time consuming.

Thats why the community is pretty important when buying an sbc, just as it was important to have a phone with good dev support in the old android days.

>>58228069
Never. they love using the USB 2 bus for ethernet.

>>58253490
yea, that's one point, i was just talking about general usage and program availability
hardware support/drivers can be a problem, if it depends on non-free drivers, you could end up stuck on an old kernel version down the track, which will eventually limit you

BeagleBone Black
RPi 1 B+
RPi 2
RPi 3
Odroid C1 (not plus)

RPi's are in use, others are collecting dust. Was a bit disappointed with C1, only bought it because RPi 2 wasn't announced yet. For some reason it locks up during full screen videos (e.g. twitch app running), probably because of manufacturer's overclock. And it didn't like any SD card except genuine Sandisk.

>>58253894
That was because they reused smartphone SoCs which literally only have a single USB port for charging. The fact that it's able to transmit data is just an unintended side effect.

Except now they have a custom SoC for the Raspberry Pi 3 and yet they still do the same shit with USB.

>>58256480
The Pi 3 is generally held back by earlier generations. Hopefully they'll release a 64bit distro and an updated version with Gbit ethernet in 2017.

>>58256480
Just one of my reasons to not consider the Raspberry

>>58251668
Hmm no, but there is the XU4

>>58219912
I'm not really knowledgeable about these things but I thought any ARM linux distro could work on one of these like arch or ubuntu. Is there some sort of x factor that I don't know about or do you just mean the orange pi isn't able to do as many cool projects as the rasp?

I want a sbc to make a very small handheld terminal. What's the best cost to power ratio computer? I'm seeing droid 2 in this thread and as nice as it is, I don't know if it'll work with the adafruit screen they're selling for the raspberry pi. Don't really know of any other tiny monitors I can fit in a small enclosure.

>>58258251
There are plenty of TFT monitors out there, the tiny display you are referring. They work with ODROID. The ones sold with the RPi work with the ODROID too according to a review I saw, but can't say much about since I don't have one.

The cost to power ratio is a completely different subject as it depends on the use you want. The ODROID can be used as a gaming platform, a NAS, any kind of server, or even as a replacement for a desktop computer. Of course it uses a bit more power, not too much but enough for you to consider if you want the features.

>>58221648
>crowdsupply
Fuk you OP. I'm a sucker for buying useless gizmos now there's no escape

>>58259307
That isn't OP though...

>>58258910
Ah okay. While I did say terminal, if I can run a full linux system on it for shit that'd be cool. I might pick up an odroid then if it's the most powerful. Thanks anon.

>>58259391
Consider buying the eMMC too. Might raise the cost but see this >>58236587
It boots in less than two seconds and works faster than any rpi.

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Why does Kodi lag on my raspbery pi 3? I installed raspbian and then kodi, then exodus. Now when I try to watch through Kodi and click somewhere in the video it can randomly die, stuck on black screen and just play sounds. Anyone knows how to fix this?

>>58260486
>pi
>why does it lag
GEE I DON'T KNOW

>>58260486
>I installed raspbian and then kodi
Is this just a media box? Install a lightweight image of something like LibreELEC so there's less shit in the background to load.

>>58261434
>Install a lightweight image of something like LibreELEC so there's less shit in the background to load.
This

>>58250536
Tegra would be really nice if it was a little bit more user friendly. A lot of GPU power and a decent CPU for such a small package.

Then again, this goes for most of the modern SoC.

It would be fun to have this powerful compute CUDA device on the top of my palm.

>>58260486
ODROID

>>58208916
How good is the RPi 3 as an HTPC (Kodi), and general performance wise?

So far I'm using the RPi 1 and it works pretty good, though now and then there's the lagging in the menus. The main problem is that it freezes during some movies which makes it really annoying. Idk if the CPU/GPU can't handle it or if the 100Mb connection is insufficient.

I'm open for alternatives in the same price range that will perform better. Bonus points if they have Gb connection.

>>58258107
ARM kernels and device trees need to be adjusted for each board, same goes for phones. If nobody creates that, you will have to do it yourself.

>>58263432
As stated many many times in this thread the ODROID C2 has a gigabit ethernet and better performance than the RPi 3.

>>58263697
Yeah I noticed. Researching the C2 atm.

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2x Pi B 512MB
1x Pi B+
1x Pi Zero
1x Pi3
1x Cubieboard 1 (1GB)
1x Odroid XU3
1x Orange Pi Zero 256MB

One of the Pi Bs was the first one I got. I loved it because I was a young teenager autist and I felt fun to do >real computer stuffz on such a small board. I learned most of my current programming skills with it. The other B I got for exchanging some DDR ram with a friend.

The B+ was bought before that, for my Raspberry Pi laptop (motorola atrix dock + some chink shit cables), which I used for a year or two before I stopped being an ARM fanboy autist and got a real laptop. Today the dock doesn't work anymore and the Pi B+ is kinda useless as it's so slow to be a non-trivial server or desktop.

The Pi Zero was a "lol why not it's so cheap", and I'm planning some handheld build with it.

The Raspberry Pi 3 was because my main PC is so loud and power hungry, instead of spending time on it I wanted a fanless SBC to do Linuxy autisming and programming on, especially a Raspberry Pi because these days I'm developing Raspberry Pi demoscene prods and nothing emulates the VideoCore API AFAIK on PC platforms.

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>>58263845
continuing:


The Odroid XU3 was a failed attempt at what the Pi3 managed to do for me. I don't recommend this board to anyone. Fucking buggy and bullshitty, doesn't properly support any other video modes than 720p60 or 1080p60. Video drivers are still to this day a mess. Kept crashing at boot for no reason when booting from SD-card. I've been using it lately as a Minecraft server and it does that job well, but only when running from a USB drive and headless.

The Cubieboard 1 was something I just wanted to see what the Allwinner platform was like. Back then it was shitty, didn't get it to output video and using the SATA power connector caused crashes. Today though, with a 2.5" 1TB HDD and a hack job SATA cable with a separate power plug, it serves my LAN running mainline Linux without a single issue, providing my LAN with DHCP, name server, NAS (nfs), websites for my Internet home- /personal page and LAN, plus it's my tmux irssi idling host and SSH tunneling thing on port 443 to avoid public wifi restrictions.

The OPi0 was also a "just because it's so cheap" purchase. It's kinda cool. I've been using it as a power bank powered WiFi-attached mpd music player with a USB DAC streaming audio files from my NAS or the Internet.

>>58250799
>>58253022
Is the anywhere to buy these at a decent price in the UK? Cheapest I can find is nearly £50 total delivered vs a Pi3 at £30. I want that gigabit ethernet but at that price I might as well buy two Pi3s

>>58264632
Meant to reply to
>>58250799
>>58263697

>>58209731
It has Chromium browser, so yes. You can also use curl or wget from command line to download files.

>>58210816
while i do agree and it does have a shit ton of power
it is sad that the gpu's drivers (on linux side of things) isn't available/open source

>SBCs
More and more I realise how I should just have a single computer and a bunch of ESP8266's.
Maybe a second computer as a media center but even that's a bit excessive as I never use the TV anyway.

>>58264817
ESP8266 is not really powerful beyond single purpose scenarios and cant really be used as a server.

But I agree, a major part of Raspberry Pi projects could be done with ESPs.

>>58209986

Look at eoma68

Pretty sure they have boards being fabbed now.

>>58264817
It'd be cool to make an IoT hub with an SBC and some ESPs. Maybe have them send sensor information from around the house and all.

>>58265876
I'm working on that but I thought mesh networking would be cool. But the one mesh networking library I tried (easymesh) doesn't fit my spec. So I'm gonna try espressif's one library now.

>>58265876
Already have a working test setup of this. Gonna put it into my home this month. I might publish some stuff about it later, but its basically ESP8266s , a SBC with a webserver and database (currently Apache tomcat, as I have some switching logic for automation running in Java) and an android app to program ESPs and interact with them.

ESPs can also communicate with each other to avoid a single point of failure and to have a working lights and heating system if the router fails etc.

>>58265954
Seems cool, how did you set it up to send it to the other ESPs?

>>58266213
Basically you can set up to 8 Nodes that a node can write to and kind of link them. Their IP is stored in EEPROM then.

So if I want a switch to control specific lights I set it to send a POST with its state whenever it is switched. This post will go to the hub and to any nodes programmed.

Heating nodes have set temperature values for modes that can be changed through the app, modes can be cycled from switches.

So basically you get advanced control from the app and basic control from anywhere. The app can only communicate with nodes through the hub, that way the hub can check who has access.

I have yet to implement some encryption and authentication, so I can identify individual nodes/clients and avoid spoofing. Might do that with AES and some key exchange between nodes and hub. But I need to see what the ESP can do for that.

>>58264808
https://github.com/hardkernel/linux/tree/odroidc-3.10.y/drivers/gpu

huh?