/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>>58202238
So I have a X220. What can I do to spruce it up?

Otherwise it's going to continue to serve as my pornbox

>>58201884
winter term is fast approaching send help

>>58202264
Docking port Fleshlight attachment

Guys, my one screw on my Hard Drive caddy is stripping

Whats this about new thinkpads announed in less than two Days? Is anything good in the 800€ price Range anticipated?

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>>58202364
Pls respond

>>58202374
Pretty sure they won't be announced til CES

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>>58202388
figure out the measurements and get another one. then google how to fix a stripped screw.

>>58202413
No. I just need to get it out of the old HDD

>>58202396
Will the Old models drop in price directly after? Or will it Take a couple months?

>>58202238
Graphical or regular debian install?

>>58202672
Graphical because it's easier

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>>58202682
Too l8

>>58202705
It's basically the same thing

>>58202682
>graphical
>easier
kek

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this will be my last shitpost about my terrible amazon purchases
bought an hp rp5700, gonna upgrade to a xeon 3075, 4gb of ddr2, and a radeon 3450, then comes the cosmetic ricing for fun, all together im out about 70$

anyway, my 380ED has been fun, figuring out how to use DOS to install some old games, simcity 2000 runs better on this thing than it does on my fucking T42, i shit you not
also got commander keen on there, my mom wants to steal it from me, because thats her favorite game of all time or something

>>58202820
Yep. You simply click on the option you want, or click a check box. Easy peasy.

>>58202264
ips if it aint already in there
modded bios for fast ram dickwaving
5ghz wifi to rise above your pissant neighbors crowding the lower band (get a dell dw1510 if you're questioning your sexuality & want to try out hackintoshing)

>>58202449

They'll cut prices by maybe $200 until the new models are released. Don't go in expecting 50% off.

>>58203115
I wanna buy an e470 which is 800€ right now, should i wait until after CES for a price drop of any Kind?

>>58203186
Good God just buy the t460 already

>>58203202
>buy something with inferior specs for 100€ more

No thanks

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>>58202832
>Potassium near your power brick

>>58203230
>e series
>better

http://m.ebay.com/itm/262780593246

Do you think this is a good deal? I'm installing new RAM and SSD and booting with Arch. No webcam is an added bonus to me.

>>58203281
>8 instead of 16 gb ram
>Intel HD 520 instead of 940mx
>i5-6200u instead of i7-7500u
>900€ instead of 800€

And all of that just for better Material on the frame and better Liquid draining?

>>58203344
Buy a thinkpad, anon, not a macbook

>>58203244
>being literally retarded

>>58203355
Last time i checked MacBooks are the ones with higher prices for worse specs

>>58203362
It's called a joke
>>58203373
You can't pour water on a macbook, though

ThinkPad W530
Intel i7-3630qm true quad core
16GB DDR3 (unsure of exact RAM speed)
180GB Intel SSD (unsure of exact model)
15.6" 1920x1080 panel (unsure of exact type)
Nvidia Quadro K1000M or K2000M (not sure which one specifically)

$200 cash in the hand if I want it in the next hour, do I grab this puppy or run from it, denizens of /tpg/?

>>58203379
I have never poured liquid on any electronic device in 25 years and im not gonna start now

>>58203379

>You can't pour water on a macbook, though

Yes, you actually can, however if you want it to actually keep functioning it's generally frowned upon.

>>58203244
rip bannanas

the very real threat of the non-smart battery causing a lithium explosion on those bananas though...

>>58203384
yeah, worth it
thats normally a 300-500$ laptop used

even if its slow ddr3, a shittier ssd or the k1000m, thats a good deal

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Would an X230 Tablet (bulky battery included) fit in a standard laptop sleeve on the market?

I'm looking at ones advertised as fitting a 13" Mac, but I'm afraid the Thinkpad will be both too thick and too wide.

>>58203412
it will fit in a 13" bag just fine, its only 12x9" with a 1-1/4" thickness

>>58203428

Thanks lad.

>>58203428

I think that Anon was asking about how thick it is with the battery slice, not the extended 9-cell sticking out the back but I could be wrong. With the battery slice it should approach 1.75" thick or maybe a bit more.

>>58203457

Both, actually.

>>58203328
http://tp.krelay.de/index.php?type=4236nvu
Thats a damn good deal. And it does have a camera.

>>58203384
The W stands for "Weightlifter". There, we warned you.

I managed to sell my P50 today without taking a loss. What a piece of garbage. I'm relieved I was able to do it before the new models were announced.

>>58203477
>Unfortunately, we can't process this payment.
Fucking kill me, why can't I order a laptop

>>58203823
what was wrong with it?

>>58202238
t430s best pad

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http://www.anandtech.com/show/10940/lenovo-updates-the-thinkpad-lineup-new-models-welcome-changes

Thinkpad is dead

>>58204025
>Thinkpad is dead

About three years late with that pronouncement, lad.

>>58204025
I don't know why I had any hope.

>>58204025
>http://www.anandtech.com/show/10940/lenovo-updates-the-thinkpad-lineup-new-models-welcome-changes

Actually, t470 with thunderbolt 3, I'm sold if I ever want a laptop with a current gen processor.

>>58204025

Wow, that's just... sad, truly sad. Those are fucking hideous creations each and every one.

God dammit Lenovo, why?

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>>58204025

>>58204025
The X270 looks fine, and it now has USB-C charging, which is a huge plus.

>>58204152
A 12" 16:9 display is never fine

that full power cpu option in the t470p is pretty wild. i don't know what kind of world-changing update you guys were expecting. seems like a reasonable line refresh to me.

as for our 7-row kb, screen ratio, no touchpad, blue enter key fetishizing, maybe if we're lucky they're saving the retro reveal for ces for extra tech journo hype

>>58204025
this is aids
my T42 lives through another generation of autismtops

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>>58204025

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what does /g/ think of the E550?
i can get one for 220$ new from a local store

>>58204408
the base i3-5005U model

>tfw you know there will never be a laptop as good as the x220 :(

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>>58204025
I have a t450s and I don't think it really deserves all the hate it gets. If it didn't have the Thinkpad branding it would be a decent laptop.

Despite all that, the build quality is really shit. I dropped this laptop once with my headphones plugged in and now the jack is completely broken. Meanwhile, my shitty old hp laptop survived much worse. Also, I would have liked to see an hdmi port instead of VGA or DP.

>>58204408
I would stay away, it looks pretty low quality. Try and buy a used T___ like T440 or whatever, they will last you longer.

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>>58204025
Bezels just keep growing, they keep growing, man!

>>58204408
keyboard is shit. I mean shit even compared to modern hi-end thinkpads.

>>58204408
You have enough to get a better t/x/w series thats older and better specs. You can stil find them in almost new condition pretty easily.

t430s vs x1c ? Suppose the latter would be better in the ultrabook category ? Both'd be used with docking stations, but also taken from time to time with me

My w520 optical drive caddy only powers on sometimes leaving me without access to the HDD I've placed inside. Where can I find the option to leave it powered on? I've browsed in the power options and find nothing,

If money was no object, would you get an old T420 or a new T460?

I'm a jewy minimalist with a lot of extra money to throw around due to never buying anything. I would upgrade either of them with third party SSD and RAM.

>>58205092
mine on the t410 is the same, i find no logic behind it. also no settings.

So new generation but no chinkpad retro?

>>58205163
It's weird because sometimes when I startup the laptop it's on and sometimes it's not.

Anyone here got the answers?

>>58205106
you should generally get the oldest one that can still run what you need.

Did a shit ton of research and decided to go with a x230. Is this a good deal http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-X230-12-5-B-Grade-Laptop-Intel-Core-i5-3rd-Gen-3320M-2-60-GHz-320-GB-H-/302132317308
most of the other ones are around similar price, even used. anyone have experience with newegg refurbs?

Already have RAM ready to upgrade it to 8GB and an SSD, will likely also upgrade the screen to IPS in the future

Is Core i5 2025m on T420 decent enough for daily uses?
Or do I need something more powerful to handle today's websites?

>>58205700
If you mean the 2520m, then yes. It's still fairly competitive with ULV ultrabook CPUs

>>58205752
Sorry.
I meant 2520m.
What are the temps I should expect it to reach under load?

>>58204025
Don't know why you're surprised. This is how laptops are made nowadays.

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Daily reminder that the Retro is never happening and that we were fools for thinking otherwise.

>>58204025
I expected nothing, and I'm still let down. Fucking Lelnovo.

Alright I'm new to Thinkpads.
Can anyone tell me the optimal start/stop charge threshold to use, and why?
Thanks.

Why are people hating on the new thinkpads? The L570 has a 1366x768 TN panel, you guys should love it.

>>58206413
>L

>>58202238
Is P line the new W ?
Can I safely assume that P is the more expensive but also more extensible than T?

If I had to chose between T560 and P50 with the same insights except for CPU (i7-6600 for i7-6700)
Is P50 worth additional price?

>>58206673
>Can I safely assume that P is the more expensive but also more extensible than T?
I meant, P is like T in terms of quality just with newer components.

I'm fucking lost above certain price point where benchmarks show very similar numbers.

>>58202428
i used pliers to get them out

>>58202238
What an interesting day
Not only did lenovo manage to make me not want the new t470p, I now actually want a 2016 macbook after using my friends

>>58206967
so cuck yourself

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A E S T H E T I C

>>58207480
might as well buy an XPS 13

>>58204532
the x1c doesn't have a docking station

>>58207480
>ethernet port
YES

what's the little plastic square next to my trackpad? is it just for if I wanna install a fingerprint scanner later?

>>58205775
I was just playing in Hyperdimension Neptunia on external monitor with my 2520M, had 80 degrees on MB sensor, and 76 degrees on CPU sensor. I don't know if that's okay.

>>58204850
x1c has no dock

>>58207810
onelink port

also dead since the next x1c will have tb3

>>58207614
keyboard on the xps 13 is even worse

>>58205962
there still might be a retro announcement next week.
if ces comes and goes with not a whiff of retro i will be hopping mad.

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>>58207803
iGPU?

>>58205962
>>58207867

>The first three ThinkPad notebook models were the 700, 700C, and 700T. They were publicly announced in October 1992

>October 1992
>25th anniversary is in October

>>58207810
thx, into the trash it goes!

then this leaves me with the 2nd dilemma - t430 vs t430s

>>58207879
last i heard lenovo were having trouble with the retro design and finding suppliers for their design so that's why there haven't been updates recently. in technology, if you try to do anything everyone else isn't doing it gets tricky and expensive.
so i'm still holding out hope.

>>58207889
like
>>58207840
pointed out it does have a onelink port, so that's something.

i have a T430s. I upgraded the RAM to 16GB, the HDD to 2TB and most importantly the display to IPS 1920x1080 because the stock display was garbage. i also have a dock with 2 monitors.

>>58207902
>take X301 chassis
>put new motherboard in it
>use the same panel as the 13" rMBP

Problem solved.

>>58207889
>>58207927
Also, I don't know if you care or not but Linux support on the T430s is pretty much flawless. For my usage anyway, Red Hat/Fedora.

The fan on the T430s is audible. The fan on my T400 is not. So if you're highly sensitive to noise it might not be the machine for you. I'm not sure about the T430.

>>58207927
thx for the info, i guess the CPU is more than enough ? What can you tell me for temps and battery life ? I have ssd and ram from my current t410 to transfer + hdd for the ultrabay, also was the display mod hard ? I'm on the brink of ordering one, dunno what's stopping me, fuck

>>58207984
you do know that apple got exclusive contracts?

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Sup /tpg/
I'm want to buy a used (but renewed) T420 from my christmas money
>Intel i5-3320M 2,6 GHZ
>4 GB RAM
>1600x900 Pixel Display
>Intel HD Graphics
>320 Gb Drive
>Webcam
All for 265,-€ ($276,42)

What bugs me a little bit is that i don't know if 4Gb RAM will be sufficient
I will use it for university
>Linux distro
>Programming
>Internet
>Listening to music
>light gaming (pixel indie games & Civ 5)

I have the choice to upgrade the RAM to 8Gb for additional 60 Bucks
Do i need it?

And i need some info about the keyboard
I have another offer for a T430 with nearly the same specs (also renewed) but with a 1366x768 Pixel Display and a i5-3320M 2,6 GHZ for the same price
How do the keyboards compare and should i ditch the T420 for the T430?
It's a very hard choice so i appeciate all help

>>58208023
doubt the panels are apple exclusive, just that no one wants to buy a super expensive 16:10 panel

>>58208034
Get the T430 if you want to play some games, the HD 4000 is much better.

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>>58208034
>Do i need it?
Nope.

>>58208012
>The fan on the T430s is audible.
thanks, that's valuable info too

>>58208034
Higher resolution is better for everything except possibly gaming.

>>58204408
>>58204417
Depends on what you're doing with it. If you're doing pretty basic stuff and are on a budget then go, but you're not getting real quality buying the E series.

>Lenovo order cancelled for no reason
>Paypal security is blocking my transactions through Ebay for no reason
I just want to buy a fucking computer

>>58208145
except the stock 1600x900 panel is pretty fucking shitty

>>58208207
get out, terrorist

>>58206919
Yeah, that's what I ended up doing
Worked like a charm

>>58208092
>>58208107
>>58208145
Ok Thanks a lot
But how is it on the keyboards
The T420`s looks older
How do they compare?

>>58208232
Really, why? Still beter than the 1366x768?

>tfw my brother (who's 11) wanted a tv for xmas
>dad is gonna get him a 24 inch one
>say he can have my old HD monitor which is 21 inches and a laptop instead which is a better present and cheaper
>say he can get a t420 like mine for 100 quid and he'll be sorted
>dad is telling him not to get a laptop like mine and to spend more money on a more modern looking laptop
REEE
THIS IS 5 YEARS OLD AND IT LOOKS /aesthetic/
Why are normies so dumb? Also you guys got any recs for a more modern looking laptop that is still thinkpad tier dank?

>>58208391
Macbook Pro

Don't ignore me reee
>>58207772
Don't ignore me reee

>>58207879
nigga CES is when they announce their models, they're not gonna wait for october just to fit with a jubilaeum

>>58208385
It's not amazing but it's fine
It's better than the lower res screen
Just buy one and upgrade the ram yourself later

>>58208385
T430
>do keyboard swap
>flash modded BIOS for keyboard and remove whitelist
>Alienware M14x 1600x900 panel
>Intel 7260-AC
>SSD
>8GB RAM

How hard is it to find a X220 with an i7 processor and an IPS panel?

>>58208507
Hard, just get one of the two i7 models and swap the panel yourself.

>>58204025
Ahahahahahahahahah
Chinks gotta destroy everything

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>>58204025
What the fuck is this shit?

>>58208469
>they're not gonna wait for october just to fit
>25th anniversary

How many other laptop brands can celebrate a 25th anniversary? Why wouldn't they milk the shit out of it?

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>>58204046
>>58204069
>>58204133
>>58204151
>>58204249
>>58204298
>>58205933
>>58206192
>>58208633
>>58208735

>>58208788
I didn't realize they put EVERY design failure on that laptop

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>>58208803
>if the 2014 X1C was a human.jpg

So no retro?

>>58204532
bezels don't matter. you're distracting from the actual functional losses

>>58207871
Yep.

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>>58208851
THICCCCCCCCC BEZELS

Can an x220 support 4K with a docking station or does it need something in addition to that?

>>58208943
Can't really understand the problem with this. Really only relevant in a duo or more screen composition

>>58208788
Had a displeasure of using this a few times. That touchpad, especially the click, is the worst thing I've ever used.

>>58208018
the CPU is getitng old. i actually have a faster work computer and a faster personal computer and i can feel the difference. I'm upgrading within a year or 2. i'm not one of those people that keeps using the same machine for 10 years, i like my CPUs fast.

I get about ~3 hrs battery life in linux, closer to 4 in windows 10. thats with wifi, youtube, music, web surfing, compiling or otherwise working the cpu. it's a 44Wh battery which i believe is the only option on this machine.

the display mod was pretty easy for me. but i've been working on electronics for over 10 years. the guide that came with the LCD cable and board was translated from chinese and could have been better.

I fell for the meme /g/. I bought a x230 and tomorrow it will be at my house. Pretty happy about it.

>>58208053
this is the problem with a project like the retro thinkpad. it will be expensive because it's niche. if no one buys it the people who worked on it or at least proposed it and drove the program might get fired.

>>58209099
Lenovo knows it's a halo product with low volume sales.

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This is my t430 i bought a month ago for ~250$. It has i5 3320m, 8GB RAM, 500GB HDD, 1600x900 screen, HD + NVS 5400m, 3g modem and almost new 9-cell baterry. Nice deal?

>>58209047
>Can't really understand the problem with this.

Are you retarded? That's over an inch of bezel

>>58209125
>dat carpet design

>>58209168
that's over an inch of "not an issue at all"

>>58209195
>we could put a 17" panel in there with slim bezels
>no fuck you

kys

>>58209174
Its not a carpet :)

>>58209240
it would be more expensive. and they don't wanna sell tall screens

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>>58209275

Does anyone else have issues with i3 crashing after resuming from suspend?
I'm running an i3 session in Xubuntu on a Thinkpad x230. I'm using the the ubuntu ppa for the most up-to-date version. I did a clean install and haven't messed with the config to see if maybe my past config screwed it up. The issue still exists.
When I resume, i3 hangs, then crashes to the login manager. Has anyone else experienced this? It happens every single time. I can't determine is it's a Xubuntu issue, an i3 issue, or a Thinkpad issue.

>>58208996
Anyone?

>>58209312
Except only the eternal jew would care about something as useless as bezels.
A bit less focus on bezels, a bit more focus on shunning 16:9 and chiclet keyboards and maybe we would be living the dream right now

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>>58209086
Thanks again, I can also feel my t410's cpu kinda shitting itself compared to my work computer, also I can feel he's slowly dying :/ I think a t430s would keep me satisfied another year or two. As for battery life, seems ok, mine also does like 3,5 - 4hrs with some tweaking.

I'm a tinkered myself, I think I can handle that mod, I want a better screen with my next machine. Where did you get yours from, and for what price (circa) ? Also, any other tips to check before buying ?

Just picked up an HP EliteDesk to use as my main computer. Been using my T420 as my only PC for two years.

I'd like to try out OSX on the T420. Is it better to just do a clean install of OSX as the only operating system? Is there a guide written specifically for the T420?

>>58209598
i got my lcd mod from a poster on the thinkpads.com forum. $50/mod with shipping iirc. they're not always available so you might have to lurk for a little while. you could probably find a cheaper option elsewhere but i wouldn't recommend it. its a fairly close knit community of thinkpad enthusiasts. my mod works great and i haven't had a really bad experience on there.

i haven't done any power optimization in linux for the T430s. I think there are some knobs to twist and buttons to press but I haven't looked into it. squeezing out another 10-20% battery life should be possible.
the T430s is pretty light, which i like because I move around with the machine. The hinges need replacement. luckily a lot of geniune T430s parts are still relatively easy to get.
i have't done the the t420s keyboard mod yet. i'm thinking of doing it. when i replace the hinges in one shot. i'm not keen on the idea of not having working keyboard indicator lights so we'll see.

>>58209807
cool, bookmarked.
I can manage it with the hd+ for some time i guess, and i find the 'new' keyboard not so bad. I think I will def go for backlit.

last question: what are the normal temps?

>>58209125
yucky keyboard, but yes, it was priced correctly and looks in good condition besides the kb sheen

>>58209929
idle temp for me is about 46-50C, which i feel is kind of high.

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>>58210019
currently 63 for my t410, altho on the lowest setting from TPFanControl, rarely see it below that.

another thought, can the t430s, also the newer models, be picked up for the screen like the t410? Really like, that I can do it with this lappy.

>>58210128
is that fan blowing in or sucking out?

I bought an used x220 for school (applied mathematics) and daily use, and now I want to updrade the HDD and RAM. This components are going to be okay?

https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PC3L-12800-SODIMM-204-Pin-Memory/dp/B007B5S52C/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1482945110&sr=8-1&keywords=16+gb+ddr3+sodimm

https://www.amazon.com/Samsung-2-5-Inch-Internal-MZ-75E250B-AM/dp/B00OAJ412U/ref=sr_1_1?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1482945151&sr=1-1&keywords=samsung+ssd+850+evo

>>58204025
well you could say that 5 years ago.

this is basically improved T460 which I planned on buying (didnt cause no TB3). The only downsides to new thinkpads are the build and the keyboard. It depends how you weigh those 2 things.

>>58204249
>T42
my man. I got paid to "fix" an older friends t42(with xp on it) about two years ago. He has had it forever, and it was running incredibly slow. I found the problem, it was all the ancient porn he had downloaded on it(or according to him, the person who owned it before had on it) from sketchy websites, along with a bunch of standard malware. So, I asked him if he had anything important on the harddrive, he said no, and I recommended just reinstalling windows and wiping it, because it was so fucked. He asked if that would delete the "smut", I said yes, so he just said no, gave me 15$ for my time and that is the last we talked of it. Great machine though, and I was glad to see a normie still using it.

>>58208034
The only reason u'd need more than 4GB is if you run virtual machines or use any other ram consuming software like MATLAB

>>58210513
Why didn't you tell him about SSDs and linux?
Not even trolling, that would have fixed all his problems

>>58207480
ew no

>>58210486
the build quality and keyboards of todays thinkpads are still the best options on the market. unless you count macs and the chromebook pixel 2 as in the same market.

>>58210568
>MATLAB
Funny that you mention it
I had a course about it last week
But this course is just for the first semester so i'm gonna go with 4Gb

But still can't decide between T420 and T430 :(

>T420
>i5-2410M
>4GB RAM
>SSD
>Windows 7 (need it for work)
>everything still slow as fuck

Why the fuck is this allowed? I would love to say the blame is on me and my old hardware but I'm sure it's the fault of incompetent devs who focus on making their shit shinier instead of optimizing it to run well. It's not like I'm trying to run new video games on the highest graphical settings.

>>58210725
>tfw even the best today is still shit

>>58210814
if you type a lot, T420
video performance is the only real advantage of T430

>>58204025
what exactly is wrong about these? Don't tell me it's because they come in silver so you think they look too much like macs...

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125$ for a x121e?
i3-2367M 1.4 GHz

Good deal or no? I could probably get it for under 100$ with a little haggling.

>>58211219
Maybe go for $80
It's a netbook with a shit processor

>>58211242
It has 4 gigs of ram... I am assuming that's not enough to comfortably do some programming in Visual Studio?

>>58211219
Get an X201

>>58211447
Wish I could... I missed an X220 for 40$...
Still kicking myself to this day for that.

>>58210990
Thanks, this really makes my choice easier
Can't wait to turn it on for the first time and customize it like it suits me

>>58211447
This. I just bought x201 yesterday in almost new condition for $100. Its pretty small but I dont need it for much.

How's Hackintosh on the T420?
Is it worth it?

>>58211693
if you are gay it does. Otherwise its not

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>>58211693
it was relatively easy on the t410, hadn't done it before i had to redo everything a couple of times. Too much of pain in the butt to get wireless working properly, trackpoint, sound, brightness and whatnot. The HDD with El Capitan is in the drawer since 2 months. Stick with your current OS of choice.


>>58210325
can't remember, i fooled around with both directions, but In the pic i think it's blowing in.

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JUST PULLED THE TRIGGER AND ORDERED A "LOT OF 2" X201's BOY IT FEELS GOOD WHEN YOU BEAT ALL THOSE EBAY WATCHERS TO THE PUNCH

>>58208496
Why the Intel 7260ac?
Just for the increased speed?

>>58210990
>>58211488
Go for the t430 and do the keyboard swap. I regret opting for the t420 bc of the keyboard. No third party batteries though for the t430.

>>58208496
>>flash modded BIOS for keyboard and remove whitelist
please give a guide how to do it.

Ordered a 1600x900 t420 from eBay. What is the likelihood it will actually have that resolution?

>>58212299
Thinkpad wiki

>>58202238
i just orderd a new t420s and it's slow as fuck.
>note to self never listen to /b/

>>58212314
as long as you paid via paypal you can just chargeback at no cost to you.

>>58212314
It should. If it doesnt paypal will give your money back pretty much no questions asked.

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Yo /g/angstas what do you think of the x201? It feels pretty fast and responsive with fedora mate but the battery is shit and only lasts 2 hours. I'm used to big guy mode thinkpads like W series and at least T series. Downsizing to the little manlet feels pretty good. I dont notice the screen resolution difference all that much.

>>58212561
Get an SSD, shitlord.

guess I can ask here
buying a laptop, narrowed it down to two options
>HP EliteBook 8470p for 310€
14" HD+ 1600x900 LED
Intel Core i5-3210m
Intel HD4000
8GB DDR3
128GB SSD
>HP ELITEBOOK 8460P for 260€
14" HD+ 1600x900 LED
Intel Core i5-2520m
Intel HD3000
8GB DDR3
120GB SSD
will use mostly for uni stuff, watching films and some light photo editing
my question is, is the 50€ price worth the better specs on the 8470p?

>at college
>have a brand new Thinkpad
>everybody else is using ipads, or some cheaper tablet, a few macbooks
>professer is a huge macfag
>tells us mac is the future and we are stupid if we don't get a mac
>tell him he is wrong
>he pulls me up to compare my laptop to his macbook
>mine is faster, and better in every way
>starts getting mad
>he pours water over mine by "accident"
>"oh no! your 90's laptop is dead! you had better go buy a new macbook after class today!"
"Actually, this is a $2000 top of the range thinkpad, and it's water proof"
>hold my still running laptop over his macbook and the water drains onto his and kills his
>"the fuck did you just do? GET OUT OF MY CLASS!"
>tried to get me expelled
>they look at the security footage
>come back next week and see a new lecturer.
>he's a huge Linux/open source fag
>has Richard Stallman picture on his thinkpad

>>58213598
I love this pasta

>>58213553
Yup, it's worth it for the better GPU. But you know that all 14" elitebooks have shitty displays, right?

>>58213553
>paying this much for pajeet books
glad I'm not a europoo

>>58213672
didn't know, are they shitty enough to choose a model with a smaller resolution?

>>58213817
The 1366x768 models are the worst

>>58211447
What's a good price for a X201?

I have on listed in Australia for $139

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Why do all new Thinkpads have only 4GB of ram by default?

Is Lenovo really that Chosen People.

>>58213899
Pretty good price considering you live on the wrong side of the world
What specs?

>>58213899
Thats definitely a little high for US prices I think unless its literally never been used. Not sure about Australia.

>>58204500
>nearly 2000+17
>not using Bluetooth headphones
You brought this on to yourself

I have a T450s myself, but with nice options and while this year's iteration had a few downsides to the last model, Lenovo learned and now merged the strengths of both models in the new T470s.

I'll probably wait another year until I upgrade because mine is still very nice and working greatly. And I think the T480s should still work with my docking station. I think they only change those every 4 or so years.

>>58210635
It's easier to convince normies to install POS 2009 since it's XP but still with security updates

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For once please fucking help me /g/

My W520's cpu always runs at 797mhz when its not plugged in. I've messed with Bios settings and the stupid lenovo power profiles for hours and can't fix it. Help pls.

>>58214195
Sorry cant help you but nice laptop.

>>58213553
I have some hp elitbook as my work laptop and it's shit. Just get a thinkpad, if you have no money then at least get a used model from last year or something.

The most important thing to a laptop is mobility (battery, power consumption, weight) then screen and keyboard and obviously to some extent performance (ssd, processor).

It's absolutely worth it to invest a bit more if you can, because you're going to use it nearly daily and if it's heavy, you have carry charging cables around and look for the next charging opportunity every 5 hours, screen and keyboard suck etc. then you're not going to have any fun with it. Trust me I did it, and not regretted it a day, I even wrote all this right now because I believe in it that much.

At a local store I found an x201 w/ i5, 4gb ram, 128gb ssd, and OEM battery & charger for $90. Seems like it's decently priced and I don't have to pay for shipping, what do you guys think?

According to BatteryBar, my x201t battery wear was 15%, after draining it and charging it back up, the battery wear is now 30%.. WTF? Did I do something wrong or was BatteryBar wrong to begin with? The battery inside is an old OEM 8-cell that probably hasn't been used in ages, got this for free. I guess I did good.

>>58214420
As well are there any diagnostics I can do at the store or things I should look out for?

>>58214195
That's normal behavior, especially if you don't have anything demanding running. Check the Thinkpad energy manager (The green battery icon on the taskbar)

>>58214195
W520 throttles itself on battery for safety reasons according to Lelnovo. As far as I know, there's no workaround for it.

>>58214562
is it to prevent house fires?

>>58210635
I actually did tell him about Linux but he said it wasn't worth the effort as he barely used his computer anyways. He is an old hiker type.

>>58214501
Nothing pushes it beyond 797mhz, I ran passmark and it was still stuck at that speed.

>>58214562
So whenever I use this thing like an actual portable machine I have to deal with ass slow performance?

>>58214618
>>58214683
The CPU and GPU throttle themselves to not damage the battery
You are not supposed to run any heavy shit on battery anyway

Now that ThinkPads are officially kill, thoughts on the current Toshiba portégé?

>>58214721
Just irritating because I can't play my vidya gays on battery :/

>>58214713
>portable
That was your first mistake. It's not portable, it's a mobile workstation, meaning it can be moved with relative ease compared to a desktop. The battery serves more as a UPS than an independent power source.

>>58214777
Since when are they an ded?

/g/, is there any modern machine that features the following...
>Dedicated GPU, good CPU.
>Tank-like construction
>A lot of ports
>good keyboard
>Utilitarian design, indicator lights, physical buttons etc

or is workstation ded?

>>58214808
they're silver now, therefore they aren't as distinguishable from macs so /g/ can't feel superior when using them in public.

>>58214794
Not him but the battery lasts like 10 hours for web browsing in the W520. Just not while doing intensive shit.

>>58214848
W520/W530? I've heard the more recent models are worse

>>58214781
You're not supposed to play vidya gays on a laptop anyhow, also
>:/

>>58214808
see
>>58204025

Lenovo's docs indicate that X200 is available with a 2.8 GHz processor, but I can't seem to find one. Do I have to make my own from http://www.thinkpad-parts.com/43Y9985-Thinkpad.html ?

>>58215120
I don't think it's dead, then again I'm some newfag with the newly aquired x201t

>>58215201
well, it's obvious lenovo has ZERO(0) plans of doing anything good to the thinkpad lineup

>>58214721
>The CPU and GPU throttle themselves to not damage the battery

what the fuck am i reading

>>58214781
it's a power management bug

>>58215276
>what the fuck am i reading
You can't draw 95W from the battery or it will be literally on fire

>>58215285
then Lenovo fucked it up

>>58208904
Standard, I'd say. My T520 reaches and remains at temps of 78-80 on cowna-streyk: sauce. But I replaced the thermal paste as soon as it arrived.

Is buying a refurbished think pad from newegg a good Idea? I'm thinking about something like this: http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16834332444&cm_re=t420-_-34-332-444-_-Product
Should I look elsewhere for buying one, or is newegg good? Also should I buy with it the upgraded i7 cpu and 8 gigs or would it install that stuff myself

>>58215454
They arent priced as well as an ebay one.

Ok, I'm wanting a new laptop in the new year,
and it's between the T470, T460 and the XPS 15

Thoughts?

my battery is drain fast after upgrade cpu
it's time to upgrade battry?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/9-Cell-Battery-for-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T410-T420-T520-SL410-SL510-Power-Supply-/262472268054

Is there anyplace that still sells OEM x200/x201 batteries?

>>58205106
T420 is nice for raw Unix but modern DE not gon a be the best. For gnome xps 13 touch is goat

>>58215760
T470(s), the upcoming X1 (Yoga) depending on what you like

>>58215509
Got any good sellers for a refurbished t420 for around 200$? I would like one that cosmetically looks near new because I'm kinda autistic about that stuff.

>>58216421
Just look for off lease. Its most likely been sitting in a closet for years.

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Why is nobody in here talking about this yet?!

My dick is diamond.

http://blog.lenovo.com/en/blog/latest-thinkpad-notebooks-boost-it-agility-and-protect-stability/

>>58216874
fucking revolting

there's nothing bento box about that shit

Just bought a refurbished t420, what can I expect it to all be able to do?

>>58216874

stupid >>58204025

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>>58216874

lenovo pls leave

>>58210814
I've had MATLAB eat the 8gb of ram on my x230 in a minute of simulation before.

>>58216874
>silver
>no titanium lid option

why

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>>58217160
Yeah, MATLAB will do that when the user doesn't have a clue what they are doing.

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>>58216874
Oh good, now I can have my thinkpad look even more like a macbook, that's exactly what I wanted.

>>58214848
Newest I would think is the t420, go any newer and you start losing features.

>>58202238
I can get a T430 for about 350, do you guys think it's worth it?

Which hardware flasher is good (and cheap) for flashing t430 BIOS?

>>58217454
Tell us moar

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>>58217490
Here's all the specs for it, seems like a pretty good deal but idk

How are my chances of getting win7 to work on an e470 alongside some Linux distro? Lenovo Site says its made for win10 but i dont want that shit

>>58217688
Quit considering ANYTHING in the E series you dumb shit

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Opinions about stickers?
Not this shitty small intel component stickers but stickers for the back of the display

>>58217688
Get a fucking t460 before I report you for spam

>>58215847
eBay

>>58216421
This one looks like it's in good condition. I actually just bought one from the same seller.
>https://www.ebay.com/itm/122241012388

>>58210635
>ssd
>pata

>linux
>i686
>ever working right

trust me i tried, but xp fits it better anyway

>>58218003
i love your messy thinkpad anon
looks like someone beat the shit out of it and then stitched it back together again with electrical tape and glue

i had a desktop like that years ago

>>58214195
PLease tell me you've got the file for that background? And if so could you post it desu senpai?

Does anyone know a good price for a used W700?

>>58219512
not that anon but
http://www.mocom.ru/Wallpapers/ibm.htm

>>58219819
>.ru

>>58219819
>http://www.mocom.ru/Wallpapers/ibm.htm
thank u anon <3

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>>58219819
>>58220644
btw I made it 1080p :3

>>58216874
see >>58210719

how many of you guys actually use windows on your thinkpads?
Not asking to be a memelord, I am actually curious, as I am thinking about dualbooting windows 7 and debian on my incoming x201

>>58214195
post this wallpaper

>>58214855
the x-series still ok

Would the corporate discounts work on the new thinkpads coming out next month?

>>58218003
fucking nope. laptops always look better naked. I cringe when I see macbooks on campus with a lot of awful stickers plastered all over them

>>58221375
win10 and i'm satisfied and don't care. Used to always have some linux for dualboot and fucking around with, but got bored of fucking up and having to reinstall. Since some time I have just windows, my current and previous jobs both required windows, also i don't have much free time at home to fool around with the computer... Thinking about giving ubuntu another shot tho

>>58204025

what's the issue here? the T470 looks good and keeps the thinkpad aesthetic for the most part, just a little more rounded and a slightly lighter color

I am thinking of buying a x201 for ~270$.

I have never bought a used laptop before, what should i know to make sure that i dont get scammed

>>58222281
>X201
>$270

fuck no unless it's been heavily upgraded and has a lightly used SSD

>>58222292
>>58222281
theres another one with similar specs but has an i5 for ~108$, is it worth it?

>>58222332
>$108
Now that sounds more like an X201.

>"but" has an i5
based on that context im assuming the one for $270 has an i7? From what I've heard i5 is still a good choice either way.

>>58204025
>>58204046
>>58204069
>>58204133
>>58204151
>>58204249
>>58206192
>>58208633
What exactly are you complaining about? They look fine to me, better than the buttonless trackpads they had on their Haswell laptops.
>Lightweight
>modern ports
>better screens
Are you just memeing?

>>58222782
>windows xp was the best windows

>>58222782
they are autists. But i have to admit silver versions are gay

>>58222782
>printscreen between alt and delete
>page up/page down next to arrow keys
>fisher-price shaped keys
>turning on a lock just to actually use function keys
>disgusting glossy look

Speaking of the x201. My battery currently only lasts ~2 hours. What replacement battery will give me the longest possible use time maybe 4-5 hours or even more if possible. I've seen extra batteries that attach to the bottom. I'm not sure if they are designed for this model. Can someone please recommend the best and longest lasting battery I can buy for x201? I will be using lightweight fedora linux distribution. Thank you very much /g/irls on 4chins that can help me find what I'm looking for.

>>58222292
even with ssd that's a totally shit price. With or without a ssd the x201 shouldnt be anywhere near $200

>>58222980
Most of the things you listed have been on Thinkpads ever since the Haswell laptops or earlier. They're also totally arbitrary "criticism," based completely around an aversion to change (a sign of autism). If you're comparing these new ones to the pre-Lenovo Thinkpads, then sure their keyboards and bodies are not as good, but then why the declarations of "Thinkpads are dead" when they've been "dead" for nearly five years?

Anyway, some of us want modern ports, a decent screen, a big trackpad, compact size, and a good battery life. For us, we're stuck with the Lenovo models.

>>58223230
watch this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=doEZMNXz1JY

tldw: you are a moron macbook tier le aesthetics baby
fuck off thinkpads are not for you

>>58223021
there are some chink ones that have bigger than stock capacity
just know that if they don't look fuck hueg compared to the stock one then they're lying about the capacity
>>58222980
you can set it so that it's function keys first, special shit wile pressing fn in the bios
>>58223249
that's some top tier autism

>>58223267
>that's some top tier autism
maybe actually watch the video you fucking adhd millenial
there's legit criticism about why the new keyboard layouts and why the huge trackpad is an awful idea

>>58223249
>Classic Thinkpad vs. modern Lenovo Thinkpad redesign
You didn't read my post. Let me repeat it: If you're comparing these new ones to the pre-Lenovo Thinkpads, then sure their keyboards and bodies are not as good, but then why the declarations of "Thinkpads are dead" when they've been "dead" for nearly five years?

>tldw: you are a moron macbook tier le aesthetics baby
You seem awfully obsessed with aesthetics... I thought Thinkpads were about functionality.

>>58223280
I've seen it multiple times before
yes the keyboard layout is objectively worse
but it's still just fine for every day use (and still better than most other laptop keyboards)
You'd realize this if you've every actually used a thinkpad with the new keyboard layout for longer than 10 seconds

What do the keys for a dock do specifically?

>>58223398
lock the dock to the laptop.

>>58223398
they lock the computer to the dock

>>58223319
are you retarded? lenovo has been making thinkpads for years and the "classic" thinkpad he is using as comparison in the video is in fact a lenovo thinkpad

>You seem awfully obsessed with aesthetics... I thought Thinkpads were about functionality.
you are the one obsessed with that baby shit if you think it's fine to completely fuck over the old FUNCTIONAL design which has been a thinkpad staple since the beginning, AND after lenovo took over production, moron

>>58223328
oh so being JUST slightly worse or "good enough" is justification for fucking up their amazing old design? use your brain
of course it's useable but it's objectively inferior, and how is that okay in any way and why should they continue producing these objectively inferior designs?

>>58223267
>there are some chink ones that have bigger than stock capacity
claim to, anyway, and not a one of them actually delivers on it.

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A reminder that retro Thinkpads exist.

>>58223415
>are you retarded? lenovo has been making thinkpads for years and the "classic" thinkpad he is using as comparison in the video is in fact a lenovo thinkpad
Another sign of autism is that you're focusing on minor details of my argument (which aren't even technically wrong) because you think it proves a point, rather than looking at what I actually said.

Hm... I have to say I'm not impressed with your attempt to explain why the 2017 Thinkpads, and not the ones from all the years before, are the ones that truly put the Thinkpad brand in its grave. Maybe you should see a therapist and he can help you overcome your autism.

>>58223429
Those skinny hinges are giving me anxiety

>>58223456
nice autism buzzword
that's all you have to say
sick

>>58223416
My friend actually got one for his x220 that was over stock capacity
thing was fucking huge though (stuck out like twice as far as the stock one, for only like 1.5x the power)
>>58223415
because lenovo is run by chinks and chinks are retarded
>>58223429
>stuff random laptop mobo in x60 case
>call it a think pad
I mean on the outside it says thinkpad, but on the inside it's a standard consumer grade laptop

>>58223473
It's funny because you're not even denying you have autism. It's okay, I don't hold it against you.

>installed manjaro
>linux is quite comfy
>printer didn't work by default lol
>vmbox driver fix took 4 hours to figure out lol
>stuff that would take 3 seconds on windows would take 3 hours of googling
>decide fuck this, burn a cracked W7 ultimate on a USB
>install it
>W541 cucks me and doesn't install drivers

Does Lenovo have a tool to auto-detect drivers? I'm in great need of help... just 20 minutes ago I had no wifi driver.

>>58223731
>cracked W7 ultimate

you're a fucking idiot

>>58223824
why senpai?

>>58223894
https://gist.github.com/mkuba50/27c909501cbc2a4f169be4b4075a66ff

>downloading a shitty curry ISO when you can download the legit MS ISO

Why not use Linux or W10?

>>58224002
*a better non retarded distro like Fedora or Ubuntu

>>58223478
>I mean on the outside it says thinkpad, but on the inside it's a standard consumer grade laptop
Moron.

>>58210826
what are you doing on it?
4gb ram is imho too small i wodl get with 8gb minimum

>>58216874
looks like discoball

Is this the proper place to get drivers?
>http://www.solvusoft.com/en/update/drivers/laptop/lenovo/thinkpad-w520/4284-aq2/model-numbers/

>>58224344
>not lenovo.com
no, just google (laptop model) support and 99.99999% of the time the official website for drivers will be there
also never EVER download drivers from any website but the manufacturers (aka lenovo.com, nvidia.com, intel.com)

>>58224459
good to know, thanks.

New thread:
>>58224512