Is this the latest proper OS from Microsoft?

>>58187414
Yes, they have gone far off the cliff of failure since.

No, that's not Windows 10, you autist.

No.
If you wear tinfoil hat every day, then probably Windows 8.1.
Otherwise it's Windows 10.

>>58187492
>muh charms
>muh start screeen

>>58187487
>>58187492
If you want all of your personal data sold, and you do not value your privacy then Windows 10 is perfect!

; )

Xenix.

>>58187948
Why did they have to give up on UNIX?

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>>58187414

DOS

>>58187998
MS was small at the time and couldn't compete in the UNIX market.

>>58187414
Yes.

>>58187414
rar

I use 10 at work just to remind myself why i use 7 at home.

no, it's 10

microsoft spy on w7 too since ever fucktards

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i remember back in the day /g/ was saying XP was Bill's swan song. 7 is still the best os from ms, i only use it for gaymez

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>>58190394
your windows features list should look like this. really speeds things up

>>58190410
Thanks, I had some bs tablet configuration checkmarked on my desktop

>>58190385
They do, but at least with 7 you are still in control of your PC (mostly). With 10 you are literally at microsoft mercy with everything you do.
Why is this so hard to comprehend for underage /v/edditors like you? I guess it has to do with the fact that you didn't pay for any shit you own and don't feel the value of it.

>>58190454
yeah its enabled by default for some insane reason. windows search is a big resource hog though because of the suboptimal way its process is threaded within explorer.exe. remove that too and youll notice the best increase in snappiness

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I don't normally like to post opinions, especially negative ones, on the front page. In this case, I can't resist, as this bastardization of Windows makes me quite angry. Having used every version of Microsoft's operating systems since 1988 (MS-DOS 5.0), this is the first time I truly believe that Microsoft has lost its way. To put it bluntly, Windows 10 is a mish-mash of interfaces, and in some cases borderline deceptive options, mainly to serve Microsoft's dubious ambitions in the mobile device arena, rather than consumers and businesses. It will only serve to further confuse and alienate the average PC user, and hasten the PC's demise. I've used Windows 10 as my daily OS since the Preview back in January 2015, and I can honestly say it seems like one step forward, four steps back when compared to Windows 7.

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>>58190394

>>58187414
Yup. Would be nice if freetards could get their shit together and start working on a proper replacement.

>>58190385
>microsoft spy on w7 too
Prove it

>>58190385
>sends your data to Microcuck
>stutters in gaymes from 1999 while recording
>crashes just because your taskbar is set at the top and to disappear after a few seconds
>"WIN+G "game HUD"
It's literally the worst in the last field of consumers it has, gaming. Get cucked, faggot.

>>58190410
>internet explorer 8
Better update that one. It's useless if you don't

Windows 10 is far better.

>>58187617
>Believing tinfoil hat lies
How retarded are you?

>>58191126
Prove them wrong

>muh personal information
>muh malware
>muh spyware

>>58191126
Thanks for your input, pajeet.

Literally using Windows 10 right now to be honest

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>>58191179
Subscriped

Even my tech illiterate siblings hate Win10.

>>58191197
No wonder why.

>>58191197
Sure they do, kiddo.

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>>58187414
No.

>>58191123
just disable it like in the pic

>>58191280
i realy dig vistas glossy look. too bad i never got the chance to use it.

>>58191143
The burden of proof is on the retard making the claim.

>>58191376
Maybe we just don't use it, then.

>>58191415
That's fine. But then I'm sure you understand why we call you tinfoil hat retards.

>>58191465
Because you're 14 or 15

>>58191473
Seems to me the ones making dumb conspiracy claims without proof are the true underages.

>>58190385
>>58190465
>>58191007

They put in a telemetry update, but didn't a recent update remove all traces of the W10 nagware tool? and the telemetry, I think.

>>58191513
>They put in a telemetry update
You have to join CEIP as OPT-IN to telemetry before anything is sent. It's breaking (international) privacy laws if they do that without users consent.

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Windows 10 Enterprise LTSB is best for people who know how to configure Windows properly.

Windows 7 Ultimate is best for people who need a more comfortable out of the box experience because they're a bit mentally challenged.

>>58191655
Great sales speech there.

>>58191655
Windows Vista is best for people who seek Microsoft's best efforts that has been put into.

>>58191241
I literally was told several times that multiple pop ups and forced updates are PAIN IN THE ASS. And was asked to install Win7. But w.e mister Kumar.

>>58191739
>original dev team had no idea what they were doing
>they were later kicked out and a new team had to continue from it knowing even less yet still had to hastily force it out.
Sounds about right

>>58191771
>VIsta was shit meme
I bet you still use XP.

>>58191791
7. Vista is shit.

Windows 7 is still the best for me. Still not perfect.

How do you fix it guys? For example I haven't figured out how to place classic theme without games and other software doing weird things and having massive amounts of screen tearing.

>>58187998
because microsoft developers are too stupid to build a decent working unix os, heck they cant even build a Linux distro of their own

>>58191848
>I haven't figured out how to place classic theme without games and other software doing weird things and having massive amounts of screen tearing.

What weird things? Besides screen tearing you shouldn't have any negative effects.
But non-exclusive programs that rely on your GPU will perform faster.

It sucks that you can't use the classic theme with DWM, though. Or the Aero/modern theme without DWM, for that matter.

8.1 just werks

>>58191848
>I haven't figured out how to place classic theme without games and other software doing weird things and having massive amounts of screen tearing.
You don't. Vsync on desktop tied to aero and there's no way to force it otherwise.

>>58191904
>>58191879
Yeah guessed as much.

Really sucks because I don't care about this on my desktop, but on my old laptop aero vs classic is night and day in performance and I can't stand the tearing everywhere, even when scrolling pages and watching YT videos.

I tried 10 and it was really snappy and really fancy, but holy fuck the amount of stupid shit there is in it.
Ads, bloatware, 200 pages for different settings of the same thing, auto-restarts, so much stuff that doesn't make sense. And then you discover that out of the hundreds of things that you had to change, one of those breaked something for some fucking reason.

>>58191655
>Atom
>2GB RAM
>Windows 10
What the fuck are you doing

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>>58187414
The best is Tiny7.
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5039629/Windows_Tiny7_Unattended_Activated_CD_%28x86%29_-_eXPerience

>>58187414
Yup

>>58190394
Does reverting to this theme really help on old hardware?

>>58192971
Tiny7 is a pajeet-tier PoS for idiots.
Get WES7. At least it's a secure, official MS product

>>58193049
Depends. If the GPU is weak as shit, yes it helps. If not and can handle Aero effects, then it'll offload some tasks off a weak CPU.
tl;dr usually yes.

>>58187617
>using windows 10 (technically the best, easiest and most up to date windows) for anything else than gaming and other minor tasks that won't reveal too much about your personal life

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>>58193109
>technically the best, easiest

>>58187414
I honestly don't understand what the point of having this conversation over and over again is. This was it, Windows 7 is the last real OS they made. I no longer even feel the need to justify my viewpoint, as MS does it for me with their shit "features" they have now

Only actual retards continue to use it. I have, no joke about this, lost count of the amount of times I see newfags come onto the board and make threads complaining about W10 and how they didn't believe all the bad stuff about it

there isn't even a conversation to be had anymore, its just shit
I never wanted things to go like this or be forced to switch to Linux, but its simply how things happened

>>58193070
WES7 is an actual /poz/ infested with telemetry, It's Win10-Alpha
As far as I know Tiny7 made by eXperince.
I use it for VM.

>>58192971
>>58193070
You both are retards. Just get an official Win7 SP1 iso and activate it.

>>58187414
Everyday the same posts, you people are just like a broken record

>HURR URR WIN7 IS GUD WIN10 IS BAD

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>>58192588
Enjoying snappy performance, incredible battery life and true portability I guess.

It's hilarious watching people fuck themselves with unnecessarily bloated setups and paying a fortune for expensive hardware or running outdated software to compensate for their own stupidity.

>>58193245
>official Win7 SP1
That's the definition of pajeet tier OS.

>>58192588
>What the fuck are you doing
Being Hindu Sans-Sanitarie is his full time job

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>open thread
>people defending Win10 data mining practices
I wish you all faggots could go back to your videogame oriented containment board.

>>58193210
WES7 has no telemetry, no activation services, no botnet
It's a full Win7 Ultimate with ability to remove system modules
And tiny7 is shit. It's unofficial and should not be used if you care even remotely about security of your data

>>58193819
>no telemetry
Yes, it does.
Any package sniffer will confirm this.
>no activation services
True, still it sends some data the first time it was activated.
>no botnet
It's for embedded systems, it's the core of botnet.
>ability to remove system modules
That's the only reddem feature it have though you can do it on any Win7.
>tiny7 is shit
Subjective opinion and projecting inner insecurities.
>should not be used if you care even remotely about security of your data
That's why I've tested it.
So far nothing suspicious happened.

Also a few malware doesn't run on it.

>>58193935
Please pajeet, stop advertising your shitty illegal windows 7 conversion. Nobody is ever going to use this shitty thing.

A little PSA for everyone: use groversoft's privazer and shellbags analyzer if you're concerned about the traces left on your computer from your activities. On privaZer, make sure you go through all of the sub options (like when you clean your MFT, have it remove index entries). You only have to do the MFT and freespace cleaning every once in a while.
the shellbags analyzer lets you delete some/all non-microsoft folder views (microsoft ones too, but there is no reason to clean those and it can cause issues if you do so). This helps if you have encrypted drives/volumes because the filepaths access forensics stored in your registry can be removed.

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>>58194069
>pajeet
You're advertising WES7 that will receive a WES10 upgrade "FOR FREE".
And Tiny7 is used by /g/ for VM.
I myself use MicroXP for VNs.
Check your status.

>>58194128
there is no such thing as wes10
Get back to your designated shitposting forum, subhuman.

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>>58193070
>Get WES7
doesn't even have a neat logo..

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>>58194128
>>58193819
>>58193646
Enjoy your rootkits.

>>58195107
That is because you chose unbranded in the IBW kek
That is literally a feature

>>58195113
What rootkit?
WES7 have no activator.

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All Windows are essentially the same under the hood. Only thing changes is the skin and driver support. Telemetry has existed since XP and is used for updates and service packs.

>>58191513
It removed the W10 nagware but not the telemetry. Why the fuck would they remove that? In fact the telemetry update can no longer be avoided because W7 has moved to W10 style updates (all or nothing, no cherry-picking).

>>58196929
This.
WES have next to no driver support.

>>58196967
People who use old and outdated software are really stupid. It makes sense for enterprise and servers where they need stability and migration would be costly.

If you are a desktop user, just update your shit and move along.

>>58192971
Nice, now you have Microsoft and Russians spying on you with built-in trojans.

>>58192971
At this point, you are better off with Lubuntu or Debian Linux. Why do you torture yourself with unofficial Windows and shady activators?

I would never trust any ISO that I did not download myself from Microsoft website. Fuck torrents and the viruses.

>>58197001
>built-in trojans.
There are none.
It's just Windows 7 Ultimate with removed features with modified registry.
>>58197031
>shady activators
Are you implying DAZ loader isn't shady?

>I would never trust any ISO that I did not download myself from Microsoft website.

>>58197087
I have Dreamspark account with free license keys for 7 and 8.1 for student use. I don't use activators.

>>58196967
WES2009 if you must integrate drivers before FBA, otherwise takes all XP drivers
WES7 takes all W7 drivers

>>58197087
>There are none.
You wouldn't know if there were.

>>58197405
anyone know a good site for finding information to optimize OSs in general? /g/ helped me discover shutup10 and learn about turn windows features on/off. Would be nice if their was a site with a list of things to do when running a fresh OS install

>>58197135
W- wanna share?

I use Windows 10 at work just to remind me why I use OS/X at home.

>>58197676
>their
I was about to help you but that triggered my autism.

>>58187487
>>58191126
>>58191143
https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-US/privacystatement
They literally admit it.
>Microsoft collects data to operate effectively and provide you the best experiences with our products. You provide some of this data directly, such as when you create a Microsoft account, submit a search query to Bing, speak a voice command to Cortana, upload a document to OneDrive, purchase an MSDN subscription, sign up for Office 365, or contact us for support. We get some of it by recording how you interact with our products by, for example, using technologies likecookies, and receiving error reports or usage data from software running on your device. We also obtain data from third parties.

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>>58199879
This also applies to:
>>58191655
>>58191179
>>58191163
Not to mention that Microsoft has been a participant of NSA's PRISM project since 09.11.2007.
http://www.theverge.com/2013/7/17/4517480/nsa-spying-prism-surveillance-cheat-sheet
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/jun/06/us-tech-giants-nsa-data

>>58187487
>inconsistent UI
>forced updates
>privacy hell
>"""""""""""""""""""""best""""""""""""""""""""" os

>>58199453
why the fuck more people do not use Linux is beyond me. I have never enjoyed an OS more than I enjoy GNU plus Linucks.

My computer gonna be somehow vulnerable if i don't install all the important updates? I've just installed Win7.

>>58200279
Who cares? It's not like you know if anything at all gets patched. There are no changelogs and it's a proprietary OS after all. Don't worry about it and more importantly, don't risk getting telemetry.

>>58200152
Not everybody is so open to learn how to deal with new softwares, they are afraid to drop their comfort zone migrating to something that isn't Windows.

>>58187518
try startisback you cutie

>>58200306
I dunno, 8ch don't have a chart to keep track of all telemetry updates added to Win7?

>>58199879
>>58199946
Funny how not a single person defending Microsoft's practices dared to reply when faced with facts and evidence.

>>58191655
how can you run windows 10 with 2gigs of ram

mine uses more than that in idle

>>58193553
good job convincing yourself that's what "snappy" feels like. truly a mental athlete.

>>58200430
He's like every other apologist. Endures it.

>>58199879
Literally everything mentioned in your post can be removed or avoided.

Is there ANYTHING you do in Win8 or Win10 that you can't do in Win7 ?
>>58190964
wtf was that briefcase thing for? some kind of zip file thing ?
also i cant tell if this is 2000 or something else
do you even have any option for antivirus?

>>58200773
Win10 have multiple desktops but linux has this since 1995.

>>58200683
Even the documented and an ongoing involvement in a data mining project?
http://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2015/08/even-when-told-not-to-windows-10-just-cant-stop-talking-to-microsoft/
http://www.forbes.com/sites/gordonkelly/2015/11/02/microsoft-confirms-unstoppable-windows-10-tracking/#7d31e8472f4a
We can disable everything, right? Let's actually look at some traffic analyses:
https://archive.is/QFL8e
http://m.disclose.tv/news/a_terrifying_traffic_analysis_of_windows_10/121544
Let me remind that these tests were done on a supposedly secure Windows 10 Enterprise, which despite ''removing all the botnet'' made 5508 connections to Microsoft's servers over the course of 8 hours. Surely, that's how a secure OS works, right?

>>58191327
Why? IE 11 works fine for viewing webpages and watching videos, so there's no problem with it

>>58200821
they just now added the multiple desktop thing? lmao i remember using that since ubuntu 8

>>58199786
That's nice, can't even be bothered to proof read desu. Mistakes happen, but you're living a shit life if one simple grammar error on 4chan fucks you up that good.

>>58187414
Windows 10
>t. Openindiana user

>>58187414
>proper os from microsoft
I'd say we're still waiting for the first.

I need to update to W8 from W7 to use some software, but I'm a lolicon artist and I'm afraid that the NSA will spy on me.

What do I do?

Apple MacBook doesn't have this problem

>>58202570
wrt telemetry/ceip, W7 and 8 are the same. You should be more worried about the physical machines/drives and online anonymity (assuming you share). The NSA is a far away spectre compared to more local law enforcement.

>>58202570

>make that kind of admission on 4chan
>worried about the NSA tracking you
>boy are you in for a rude awakening soon

>>58203467

Windows 7 and 8 are not the same with respect to telemetry because you can simply not install the updates that are trying to retroactively add it to those OSes unlike with Windows 10 where it's native (and no, you can't really disable it, not even the LTSB server version does it absolutely).

>>58202570
I have cute pics of lolis saved ever since the July Windows 10 update and nothing happens.

>>58203552
I didn't make a judgement on W10. You're agreeing with me.

>>58203602

>and another idiot appears
>like roaches in the dark they just come out of thin air
>stupid fucking people will be the death of us all

>>58193049
yes.

but also do this

>Sound Profile: No Sounds
>System Pref > Advanced > Performance > Best Performance

and finally turn off all windows features, like this, especially that piece of shit, windows search
>>58190410

>>58203739
do all of this and you have a non-botnet'd, DIY "tiny 7"

>>58187414
Windows 10 has rolling updates monthly which yes you do need. Use linux for your privacy-required shitposting.

Windows and constant surveillence is the way of the future and is safer, though I don't like it either. I also hate the windows 10- subscribe to benefit gag their trying to force on businesses.

Also I have a scheduled telemetry powershell that runs that I also update occasionally.

>>58203788
>way of the future
yes, the way of (your) future, not mine
>and is safer
no

>>58203893
but retard, that monthly update Tuesday is a security update

I mean for fucks sake most sites with adverts take your chrome browser and use it to steal your home router with sharded coding from images, while you are on W7, I'll be on 10 getting an update that month for all the crazy shit people are doing to get my data.

>>58200152
>why the fuck more people do not use Linux is beyond me
If gayman is your main thing then Windows7 remains far better. I game in Linux but the range is way smaller so I'm usually dual-booting for Windows only games.

>>58203788

>Windows and constant surveillence is the way of the future and is safer

What fucked up future are you from, the one where the TV show "Continuum" was based, with corporations controlling the world and everything in it including governments?

Get the fuck out.

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>>58203788
>Windows and constant surveillence is the way of the future and is safer,
No it's not, that's the point that's been made since time immemorial.

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The real question is how Microsoft is giong to sell this shit to government who don't like handing over control to critical systems to random jokers over the internets.

>>58204545
The guy is a joke, but MS has always collected some telemetry when it came to crashes and hardware.

>>58203753
>DIY "tiny 7"
That's not how it's done.
You need to delete many things like multi-user support and such.

>>58205235
You are a stupid shit, dude. Install original ISO from microshit or its partners with SP1. Activate it. Debloat (uninstall features, etc) it and optimize all settings/configure services. Done. Thats how non tech illiterate people do it. Its really not hard, you dont need any 3rd party to do it for yourself.

>>58187414
That OS was far and away the best MS has ever released, but it still had the same fundamental issue that all MS OS's had: Monolithic design. Even being extraordinarily generous, they should have realized the issues with monolithic design no later than Windows ME, and released XP with a modular design.

The user experience would have been similar, but it would have done a wonderful job locking down their system to keep it much more secure.

The fact that they are on Windows 10 (which is rumored to be their final OS, eventually just becoming "Windows"), and still haven't gone to modular design is willful incompetence.

>>58187998
Something about lawsuit of Unix System V.
A big joke when unix users were declining at that time, UNIX licensees were suing each other, rather than making UNIX accessible to consumers.

>>58187414

NO, XP was.