/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>>58178903
Just got a new mbp for Xmas
Blows my old ThinkPad miles away.

Open your eyes faggots

>>58178903
hey thinkbros i just got my first thinkpad (x230) and it's great and all
but can anyone tell me what the fuck the rectangular button next to the mic mute button is supposed to do? it does nothing at all (i'm running xubuntu)
thanks

>>58179049
can't remember but just map it to anything useful like opening a terminal

what's /g/'s verdict on the thinkpad 13 i5/8GB RAM? looks fine to me, should i get it?

So I am pretty new to ThinkPads and bought an x220 with an SSD but it only has 4 gigs of ram. Definitely going to upgrade that, but I have seen people say they have put up to 16gb into an x220.

Is this a useful meme or is it overkill for the machine?

>>58178903
Why is Canada such a third world country when it comes to buying.

They are so expensive and our money is not even worth the plastic it is printed on.

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Dear /tpg/,
I have a budget of (max) 450 dollars, an ssd, a 4gb and multiple 2gb sodimm sticks, don't give a shit if something is new or pretty, and need a laptop. The possibility of an eGPU mod would be an added plus.

I need at the bare min:
4 threads @ 2.6 GHz
720p, 16:9

Any particular models? Ebay links?

Thanks in advanced.

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>>58178903
i love my thinkpad :3
post your love for thinkpads

>tfw this is one /g/ meme that I do not regret falling for

All right /g/ I'm almost falling for the meme. I have a choice of either the X201 with Core i5 540 M or a T410s with Core i5 540 M and Nvidia 3100 NVS GPU. Which one is better for my needs of basic office work and casual gaming (Dota2)?

Any fellow /tpg/ europoors?

Looking for AUO B156HW01 V.4 for when I finally buy that beautiful T520 and given I'm stuck in Belgium, it seems I will have to resort to ebay resellers from UK such as
http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/AUO-B156HW01-V4-V-4-LAPTOP-LCD-SCREEN-15-6-Full-HD-AG-COMPATIBLE-/251505582570
http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/NEW-AUO-B156HW01-V-0-V-3-V-4-V-5-V-7-LED-FOR-HP-1080p-15-6-LAPTOP-SCREEN-LCD-/151293038964
http://www.benl.ebay.be/itm/AUO-B156HW01-V4-V-4-LAPTOP-LCD-SCREEN-15-6-Full-HD-AG-COMPATIBLE-/271455583339

Anyone with any experience with those or buying screen replacements in EU? I've also seen a few on AliExpress with "no dead pixels" warranty but.. yeah..

About to buy a T430, it's sold with a used 9 cell battery.
The vendor offers a new 9 cell battery for 35 € instead of the used one, should I get it with the new one or go with the old one?

Thoughts on the X1 Yoga with an OLED screen?

I'm in the market for a laptop and it would be my first Thinkpad.

Are Microsoft Authorized Refurbished thinkpads locked in any way?

>>58179629
probably overkill but if it's cheap enough why not max out. only problem is a x220 with 16gb won't play well with egpu setups unless you put in a custom bios

Always on USB port is damaged on X220(previous owner), how easy is it to replace, and where do I get an exact replacement

>>58178903
So I found a $43 SSD on amazon, but it's either from Germany or from Hong Kong
Would there be a risk of me being ripped off, or does amazon have protections against that
Both sellers are new sellers BTW

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ayy, bought my x230. Its on the way

Is a x230

>grade A condition
>I5 3320
>128 ssd
>8gb ram
>IPS screen
>1-year warranty

the biggest meme you've ever heard? Europoor btw.

>>58180531
320 jewros btw.

Finally joining the lenovo master race. Waited 2 months for this and its coming thursday

Lenovo E570 15.6" Laptop: i7-7500U. 16GB DDR4, 256GB PCIe SSD, GTX 950M

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>>58178903
Sprung for a T440p since its the last one with a socketed board apparently, swapped in a 4910m, 1866 ram, and a 1080p ips in addition to the drives. Amazing cooling, for what i assumed would be a nuclear holocaust of a chip in this chassis, keeps it nice and quiet too, hell half the time its fully passive. Only feasable upgrades I can do now are swap in some 2133 ram for extremely negligible gains on the iGPU, and swap the atrocious touchpad for the T450's much better one. Real solid, I think I'm in love.

>>58180601
>E570
>E
Shigiddy

>>58180601
How much did you buy it for?

>>58179049

It opens the ThinkVantage programs or can be used to access the BIOS. But that was in the past and you need the right drivers etc.

Is the fhd mod for the tblazeit ready?

>wanna set custom splash screen
>can't get the bmp file to below 38 kb, tried stripping color profiles and all
>when I try a gif it just shows up as random noise
what do

/tpg/,

I have happened across a T420s (i5-2520) with 8GB of RAM and no HDD (I have an SSD to put in anyway) for $115, yay/nay?

>>58180546
Well, since you live in Europe, they're going to be a bit more expensive
But shave $40 off of that and I'd buy it, as an american

Any of you use older thinkpads, ones with C2D cpus?

I am debating on whether or not to pick up a t400/x200

with 4gb of ram and an SSD, it should be sufficient for web browsing and video watching, right?

>>58180601
>E
You fucked up

>>58179699
Is this mabye something for me?

>>58181541
http://www.ebay.de/itm/322369929589
This, sorry
>>58179699

where to get cheap japanese keyboard for x230

Anyone get such a comfy, satisfying feeling from their ThinkPads? I just feel so comfy in my room with my x220 while there is so much commotion downstairs.

>>58178903
Im between the X220 and T420.
I'll mostly use it for light video editing.
Which one should i get, gee?

>>58181789
A desktop

>>58181848
i need it for portable editing while im on the plane.

>>58181875
a macbook
maybe a macbook pro if you're doing it for work

>>58180439
pls respond
I don't wanna get ripped off by commies

>>58180439
Do they have that standard description in their seller info saying something along the lines of "before ordering, please contact s e l l er @ shiteemai l .com"?

>>58180439
Buy a kingdian s280
t./csg/

>>58181945
>Please refer to the Amazon.com Return Policy or contact Thao Tran to get information about any additional policies that may apply.
>>58181965
>chink data storage
that's what I want to avoid

bout to purchase a p50

Would anyone highly recommend getting 16GB over 8GB memory?
Not a gamer, and won't be doing anything too intensive, but will be working with CAD programs once in a while.

It's an additional $160 for the upgrade

>>58182014
I have one in my t420
Its fine

>>58182024
Also,
importance of the colour sensor?

I've read of some people's laptops coming with poorly calibrated screens.
Personally I do dabble with design stuff occasionally, and sometimes hook up a wacom tablet to draw. Is it worth the $70?

Hello /tpg/ I have interest in purchasing a thinkpad. And I read through the buyers guide which was very useful, but before I purchase I wanted to ask for general opinion.
I want a normie thinkpad. I would mostly use it for web browsing and a little programing on the side. what model would you recommend?
Thanks for any replies,

What's the best lightweight distro for a T61?

>>58182149
OpenBSD

what can I do with a smart card reader?

>>58182208
What do you think?

>>58182093
T420

>>58182149
BunsenLabs/#!++/whatever DIY Debian+Openbox+tint2 shit you want

t. T601F owner

I just sold my w510 last month. I wish I still had it. Im thinking about buying another thinkpad. I've had t400 and w510 both have been great.

>>58182093
T430

Installed tlp on my t420 on debian 8, i removed default MATE power manager and now i lost battery status indicator. any ideas how do i manually put some battery status indicator up there

>>58180405
Shouldn't be too bad if you can solder, since it should just be a through-hole mount. You can probably find a replacement on digi-key or mouser or your other favorite electronics supplier.

>>58180958
Seems like a pretty good deal if it includes the hdd caddy, battery, and adapter.

>>58180903
You fucking missed it. Too busy looking for the green 420 sticker mod for it?
http://www.forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=45&t=122224

>>58182024
You should be able to upgrade it yourself for cheaper. As for calibrating the screen, you could just find a color profile for your exact screen model that someone has already made and posted online.

>>58182595
So buy another one.

>>58182650
>i removed default MATE power manager
Why did you do this?

>>58182668
>So buy another one.
I have $200 extra right now. Anyone know what currently can get best for this?

>>58182668
What do you mean by finding a color profile, and how would that work on Windows?

>>58182669
because i have tlp to manage my power consumption and they cant work at the same taem

no one owns a 13 here? i'd really need an opinion.

>>58182815
if you mean the 12.5'' X-Series, they are awesome. Super lightweight and battery lasts about 12 hours of doing whatever or like 18 hours shitposting.

>>58182073
Is it reliable like an equivalent samsung or sandisk?
is that the shark brand shit?

>>58182208
read smart cards

>>58183232
Mixza is the shark, go ask for benchmarks over there, its fine for personal use

>>58182815
It's got rounded corners
aka it's shit

>>58182996
no, i'm talking about the thinkpad 13.
>>58183445
is this some kind of an insidermeme?

>>58183510
Macbook has round corner therefore round corners are shit
QED
t. PhD candidate of shitposting

>>58183510
It's the abandonment of the classic "bento box" design language in favor of looking like a generic $150 laptop
If I were to buy a thinkpad, it would have to look like a thinkpad
>>58183556
round corners ARE shit, anon

>>58178903
How would a t420s go as a hackintosh?

>>58183510
no docking, not a good battery

>>58183616
Mostly fine, its been done before

pantone color calibration a worthy investment or nah?

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Help?

Can anybody explain to me what these options do exactly? and for what purpose I would select each one.

>>58182668
>the kits for non-s T420/T430 will be out, but special terms might apply, which I will open another thread later

Alright, this is what I was meaning

I don't like slim n light models of anything

>>58182668
>>58184140
Same guy here, what green 420 sticker mod?
I don't get it.

>>58184112
RAID 0 -- double storage across two drives
>benefit of faster speed
>drawback of LOSING FUCKING EVERYTHING if even a single drive fails

RAID 1 -- clones everything you do on one drive to a second drive
>benefit of always backing up everything, never lose anything unless both drives fail at the exact same time
>drawback of less storage space, due to the drives being seen as a single drive


fucking use google next time, asswipe

>>58184204
DUDE WEED LMAO

>>58184245
Oh...
Well, at the risk of sounding boring, I've never done weed.
I justified it by saying "drugs cost money, and money is a pain to find"

>>58184204
I mean, I can easily google for definitions, but I'm mainly concerned about which option I should choose when buying a new laptop, and why.

Guess I should go with the no RAID option though.

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just set up my "new" thinkpad I got for Christmas. Took a little bit to set up (it ended up being the software's fault) but I fucking love this machine.

P50 ordered and on the way!

im fucking hyped

anyone know how long the lenovo site usually takes to deliver? says ships within 7-9 business days.

So I ordered a X230 from online

Asked the seller if there was a bios password. he said no

Forgot to ask about computrace.

If it comes with it enabled, do I just flash coreboot?

>>58185454
You flash coreboot regardless

>>58185454
I hope either it doesn't come with it or you have a hardware flasher. Not the same process as '20 series or before.

>>58185743
oh fuck i didnt realise you needed external equipment to do it

I have an x230. Is it time to upgrade? I'm majoring in Accounting.

>>58185982
More than likely it won't have Computrace if you bought from a reliable seller. Play it by ear. Don't worry about problems you are not sure you have yet.

How are PNY SSD's?

>>58186286
Isn't all your stuff on the cloud by now?

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i'm a newfag to technology in general, and after lurking a bit i decided that i want to buy a t420. please help with the buying process. i have no more than $220 to spend on one
please answer these questions
>is a t420 good for everyday use? can i watch my animes in good quality and do some low/mid-end gaming?
>is 2.5 ghz good, performance-wise?
>is an intel core i5 2520M processor good?
>is 4 or 6gb of ram passable?
>should i buy an ssd and replace whatever hdd is in the t420 i buy?
>how bad is the TN? how easy and cheap is replacing it with an IPS?
please respond, /g/. don't bully

What's the best ThinkPad to install gentoo Linux on?

>>58181320
they can have up to 8 gigs of ram
yes, they are sufficent. modern day tablets have about same cpu performace

>>58187262
Wouldn't the c2d be a bottleneck for the ram?

>>58187325
Depends on what you're doing with it. 8GB will be enough for you to fuck about with a bit of overhead while running a Windows VM with [whatever] running.

8GB is arguably overkill for whatever you're doing with a C2D but not by a lot. I've been RAM bottlenecked at 6GB on my T601F.

>>58187153
cant answer all of that but i would say definitely get an ssd, the boot of OS and programs is awesome. and cant you find a thinkpad with an ips already in it? and why not go for a x220

>>58183616
The standard T420 guide apparently works.
http://www.insanelymac.com/forum/topic/285678-lenovo-thinkpad-t420-with-uefi-only/

W500 libreboot when? Should I exchange mine for a T500 if freedums is important to me?

I have a t430 with an i7-3520, is it worth upgrading to a quad core processor? Does that require a mobo swap?

>>58188238
No, and no.

Love the one you're with.

Or SSH/RDP/VNC into a desktop/server for """serious""" work.

>>58187153
>is a t420 good for everyday use? can i watch my animes in good quality and do some low/mid-end gaming?
I run dota 2 at around 50 fps in game with lowest settings if that helps.
>is 2.5 ghz good, performance-wise?
Its good for me with 4chan and dota 2
>is 4 or 6gb of ram passable?
I have 4 gigs in mine and its going good but I have 8 gigs in the mail
>should i buy an ssd and replace whatever hdd is in the t420 i buy?
Yes
>how bad is the TN? how easy and cheap is replacing it with an IPS?
The TN is not really that bad left to right but up to down is where its affected bad, Ips on the T420 is really gay so dont do it.

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>>58184506
rough

>>58187974
Cool. I was looking at this. I've only done a custom BIOS once before (Linux on a Chromebook).

Im a cs Student in need of a new Laptop, mainly programming stuff and some light gaming.

I was looking at the e470, buyers guide says not to buy e series though.

Why is that? It seems to have Great specs for the cost

16gb ram, i7 7500u, GeForce 940mx, 256gb ssd

I havnt found anything close to that for 800€ (im german)

>>58188748
Not as easy to repair
Cheaper plastic
I think the liquid draining is more shit

what can I do to upgrade my T430?

beyond ram and SSD, already did that.

>>58188819
There doesnt seem to be anything comparable in other series though, is it really not worth it?

Also what do you mean with Liquid draining?

>>58188848
There are holes on the bottom of normal thinkpads where liquid can drain in case of something being spilled on the keyboard.

>>58184867
It takes them like forever and they often add extra weeks of delays. It's usually a mistake to order direct from them unless the deal is amazing. Also: P50 sucks, be prepared for disappointment

On a scale of 1-10 how worth it is getting an SSD for my T420

>>58188840
If you don't like the chiclet keyboard, you could maybe replace it with a T420's. Or you could get a bigger battery.

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Heard X201's overheat, is this true? I want one for programming purposes and to play around in linux

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>>58188460
>>58184506

Just moved back to using Antergos again after using Windows 10 on my T420 for a few months. Eeeeh not really my thing. Really liking KDE, though. Normally prefered gnome 3 and Xfce

>>58189437
Mine runs hot but I haven't changed thermal paste yet

hey friends
so i heard that to "be nice" to your battery (extend its life) you have to set up some charging threshold thing so it doesn't go to 100% when plugging in or something

now everything on the thinkwiki seems outdated as fuck and there's a shit ton of tools described but now i'm not sure which ones are deprecated or not and this all has me confused

it should be super simple if i'm running the right tool, so if anyone could point me in the right direction that would be great (i'm running ubuntu 16.04 on a x230)

Bought an x220t a while ago, which came pre-installed with w10. I really liked the pen functionality it had, and the auto rotate when you flip the screen around, but still wanted to do a fresh install anyway.

After that the auto rotate and button to rotate the screen stopped working. I was able to find a driver to get the button working but no luck with the auto rotate. Anyone know where I can find that?

>>58179699
still no one wishing to rain their knowledge?!

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Will i make it
(i must refund right one)

>>58191380
the fug ? they send you Polystyrene?

>>58191432
it;s 2720QM

>>58180043
Bump

>>58190000

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>>58191380
it werks!

>>58191696
which thinkpad?

>>58191954
It's T420

>>58188840
Slap a better processor in it. Upgrade it to a quad core mobile like an i7 3612qm or go balls to the wall with a 3940xm or something. It'll be hot as fuck though.

>>58188748
Could get a t430, put in a 3612qm for a quad core cpu, upgrade the ram and ssd yourself, and use an egpu solution if you need better than hd 4000 graphics.

If light gaming is truly light, I can play Dota 2 or WoT on my t430. And the cunt that sold it swapped the cpu for an i5 2520m, so that's hd 3000 graphics.

i can get a t430s/8gb/hd+ for like 150 euro, should I do it ?

>>58192391
with wwan and backlit*

>>58192391
its probably fucked up

>>58192511
nope, a dude from austrialia is selling ex-lease thinkpads

>>58192518
>austrialia
fucked up for sure

>>58189238
Why does it suck?

>>58190179
Tlp

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wow this looks cool
should I buy this

>>58193296
what is that? TP 13 ?
thats 7700 Yuan = 1 061€? holly shit thats expensive

>>58193620
>TP 13
I dont know what that is but I think it belongs to T series

>>58193296
Thinkpad 13...mng

>>58193296
its a ideapad s2 so its shit

If I buy a used x201 with windows 7 on it, what are the chances there is malware on it?

>>58194040
also what are the chances it is bios locked

>>58194040
99.9%

>>58194136
Not very high.

>>58192593
why, or just because of the price ?

>>58194202
price is too low

>>58194040
just reinstal it

>>58194274
will reinstalling the same windows 7 image on the computer keep the same malware on the computer? Sorry if that sounds like a retarded question.

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I'm thinking about buying a t530 with docking station for $200-$250. What does /g/ think? Seems like a pretty good deal.

>>58194441
does it have nvidia gpu?
If not then the answer is no

>>58194454
I dont know. The ad says high res screen. I'd have to ask.

>>58194374
also, it is seller refurbished and from a distributor with good feedback, does that lower the chance of it having malware on it?

Just ordered a T460 with a 1080p display.

Picking up the Samsung EVO 500GB SSD and 8GBx2 RAM at the store in a few minutes, so my total cost for the laptop is $940.

Not really much of a contribution to the thread, but I'm pretty fucking excited. I used to have an IBM Thinkpad in high school and I loved it until it developed some hardware issues that made it marginally better than a paperweight. I would have liked to just refurbish a T420, but I can't bring myself to invest my time in a computer that might not make it through the years.

On a related note, do any of you know how I could transfer the licence of Windows 10 on the new Thinkpad to another device? I'm thinking of wiping my old Macbook and giving it to my mom if I can get Windows 10 on it.

>>58194441
Just realized the x30 are the ones with the shit keyboard. I'll probably go down to the x20's then and find one with better specs.

Hey /g/, any recommendations?
Looking mainly for
-Portability: preferably lightweight and thin
-Cheap: $700 at most

I already have a desktop for power and will be using the laptop mainly for normalfag shit like web browsing and note taking.

>>58189453
I was surprised just how well KDE ran on my x220, but it doesn't help that this is the most powerful computer I own so I have low expectations.

>>58194624
12 inch?

Retard question, but would https://www.amazon.com/Crucial-PC3L-12800-SODIMM-204-Pin-Memory/dp/B007B5S52C/ be a good purchase for upgrading a T430? I'm running on 4gb right now.

>>58194822
I'd prefer around 13-15 in.

>>58194593
>Just ordered a T460 with a 1080p display.
>ordering 1 fucking day before the T470 gets announced and prices drop through the floor

Dear /tpg/,
What the fuck is this shit.
Thinkpads are all about 'muh modularity', and the x230 is in the buyer's guide, but the X230 has a cpu that is fucking soldered to the motherboard. Is this easy to bypass and recommended? I don't think so.
In this case, are there any other thinkpads I definitely shouldn't even consider buying?
Sincerely,
a /g/ fagtard

>>58194893
get a 2570p then if you want a fucking socketed cpu

I have a x230t, and the battery it came with only has a life of about 2 hours. Where is the best place to get an extended battery, and what price range am I looking at, and what's the lifespan of a newer battery probably going to be?

Looking for the extended one because I like using it as a handle when holding the laptop.

Thanks guys, appreciate it.

Just got my x220 what are some proper ways to debotnet it?

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>>58194890
wakemeupinside.jpg

>>58194890
Source?

If that's true, I'll just cancel the order and rebuy it if the price goes down. :^)

>>58194890
>>58195009

Nothing on Google. I heard that new thinkpads are not announced until CES.

>>58194994
instl gnt

Yo /tpg/ I've got a really appealing offer (45%) on the x260 almost maxed out except for ram and ssd. But I'm worried that a 12.5" screen would be too small. I'm studying computer science, and I do lots of programming and documentation, also sometimes I run some VMs.

>>58194893
>muh upgrade cpu and burn board
kys

>>58194470
Refurbishers *generally* put their own win on it. It's a pain because you can't make a boot USB

>>58195212
Get a docking station and attach your monitor(s) to that. 12.5" is plenty for working on the go. For basic typing, reading, The screen is fine

I'm still rocking a X40. I threw a kingspec SSD in it and put the latest 32 bit Linux Mint 18 on it and it made it usable again. it it it so many it. This along with my R500 in the other room are my laptops I beat around the internet with. I have a Dell Precision M4700 that is my DD computer.

How do I store used-but-not-currently-used hard drives?

>>58195456
In the fridge, heat is the enemy of data storage

>>58194887
like t460 ?

>>58195498
"son, why is there a computer in the fridge?"
any better ways of storage?

Yea, or Nay?

http://www.bestbuy.com/site/pny-cs1311-240gb-internal-sata-iii-solid-state-drive/4825701.p?skuId=4825701&productCategoryId=pcmcat201300050005

Does anyone else still hang on to their old ass Thinkpads? I still have my A31, X40, R61 (x2) and a R500

>>58195709
I have this. It's a good one. I have yet to destroy it. and I've had it for 2 years.

>>58195780
So it's a good price?
might go for in store pickup

Finally getting around Haslel laptop pricing
Here's to those who havent went to dankpads in awhile

X240 - $200 - 380 // 500
T440 - $220 - 350 // 450
T440s - $250 - 360 // 500
T440p - $230 - 370 // 480
T540p - $240 - 570 // 720
W540 ~ $300 - 750 // 950
W541 - $500 - 900 // 100

E6440 - $160 - 350 // 550
E7440 - $210 - 350 // 475

820 G1 - $160 - 330 // 440
820 G1 - $160 - 330 // 440
Folio 9480m - $240 - 500 // 600

Zbook 14 - $200 - 420 // 550
Zbook 15 - $350 - 600 // 740
Zbook 15 G2 - $400 - $750 // 950
Zbook 17 - $500 - 700 // 1,000
Zbook 17 G2 - $470 - 970 // 1,150

>>58195726
Sadly I never got into ThinkPads until 5 years ago, but I do have some of the classics.
A31p is still my favorite collectible, I just ordered a part and it will look like the one on a wiki.

>>58195800
I got mine for like $50 on sale.
>>totally didn't look at the link till just now
$64 isn't bad. Is this your first SSD?

>>58195835
Yes, planning on installing Debian Sid on it
Does less moving parts = less power consumption?

>>58195823
I have a few other thinkpads, but those that I listed are the ones that actually still run. my 600E needs some work done to it. It won't make it past post.

>>58195853
I believe it does. I have picked up an extra half hour of battery life on my X40, and my R500. noting these are much older PC's but they should improve battery life.

>>58195895
okay, that's a nice bonus

Is it okay to plug in the battery while on AC? What about the opposite: taking out the battery after plugging in the power cord? I usually use my T430 with no battery, but this is annoying when I have to move. My battery is already bad and I don't want to make it worse by keeping it plugged in all the time.

>>58196143
if it's already bad, the battery management won't bother charging the bad cells. Just go and get another off ebay for like 20-30 bucks. Also these laptops are smart enough to not trickle charge the batteries. Once they reach about 4.2 volts per cell, charging stops.

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so /tpg/, just following up on my post about this shit last thread

got 60$ in amazon cards for christmas, no idea what to spend it on, amazon has very little in the way of accessories for 10 year old thinkpads, so im building a nas

bought an HP RP5700 for 50$
refurb, with a c2d E6400 2.13ghz, 2gb of ram and an 80gb hdd with vista

nothing fancy, but i chose it over a few optiplex models because it has two low profile pci slots, and two full size ones on a pci riser. Which with a bit of modifcation, could easily hold a full size GPU, with a bit of a length limit, on a pci riser, as there is a x16 slot

another issue then is the power supply, its only 240w and has only a 24 pin, cpu 6 pin, three sata and two molex
it is a "green" machine so under load it uses like 50w of power or something stupidly low like that, so i have a limit of about 70w i could reasonably throw at a gpu.

so i have no idea what to put in there, and i have no idea if the pci slot supports only 25w, or 75w

i can do either dual slot low profile, or dual slot full size with a riser, and i need it be an extremely low power card

it doesnt have to perform great, this is a low end c2d system that may have 2gb or 4gb of ram if i can find some in my box of ram

yes i know this has nothing to do with /tpg/, but you fags are more active than /pcbg/ and this actually may have to do with my thinkpads, as the nas is going in the thinkpad rape dungeon to be used as a hub to store all my shit, because the 750gb hdd in the snowpad broke, taking all my music with it

Does this seem like a good deal?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T460-14in-Notebook-Customized-/252696768628
I'm really just looking for a good deal on a t460 with a SSD

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>>58196341
also im totally gonna rice the fuck out of this thing

it still has all those green plastic covers inside and shit, im gonna make it look like it was never a POS machine, like i did with my Thinkcenter

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>>58195823
hey, long time no see, sell me e a t430 in europe pretty pls :)

>>58196366
definitely not that 700$ buy it now, but if you can get it for below 600$ thats a decent deal for the condition its in, and the 16gb of ram

>>58195872
600's are nice, I had gotten about 4 of them to make 2 working. Though the lids get kinda nasty

>>58196366
It might go for $650, just hope no one outbids the buy it now price, because it will happen.

I just got an optiplex 160 off of fleabay, It's a nice PC but it has the fucking SIS graphics chip in it. So that's a big no bueno for linux. I'd buy those now just for the hard disk and ram in them. PC2 800MHz 2x 2GB and yeah those go for much cheaper than $600. Also don't be afraid of getting 16GB of ram separately. get one that has like 8GB and swap it out for 16GB.

>>58195167
new thinkpads will be announced on the 28th

t. /r/thinkpads user

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Is a X250 for 260 euro + 10 euro shipping a good deal?

Looking to buy my first thinkpad for college papers and music production, I found one on ebay with these specs:
T420s Intel Core i5-2520M-2-5GHz 4GB RAM
What's the highest I should bid on it? The current bid is at 90 dollars. Everything included, thanks.

So I am looking for a new laptop since my old one (some cheap Lenovo Ideapad) somehow shorted its power supply and died...

In my country (I am in Europe) there is no market for used thinkpads, so I will have to buy new. I see that most people here have the T series, but they are really expensive compared to most other laptops.
I am able to get the new E470 for a really good price compared to any other laptop I have come across, so I am really considering it. It has the i7 7500u, 16 GB RAM and the 940MX for ~$1000, while comparable consumer laptops like the Yoga 710, which has the exact same specs, cost several hundred dollars more. An equivalent T series model is over twice the price.

Is there any reason not to get the E470, as compared to consumer laptops?

>>58196578
Hokay, if you are just writing papers up on it, you can get like a $45 R500 or something. Great keyboard, and costs literally nothing. now what are you really doing that needs an i5?

>>58196600
Edit: I didn't see the "Music Production" part, Still, if that doesn't pan out, and you don't need a quad core beast, even the older R500's are worth it. they have the DDR3 ram, so it's not useless like the R61's

>>58196597
>>58196641
yeah I know don't need anything very powerful, I'm mainly concerned with running ableton on it without it running like shit. Got any cheaper suggestions that can run that fine?
Requirements:
Windows:
PC with Windows 7, Windows 8 or Windows 10
Multicore processor
4 GB RAM
1024x768 display
DVD drive or broadband internet connection for installation
Disk Space:
Required disk space for basic installation:
3GB free disk space
Required disk space if all included sounds are installed:
Live 9 Suite: 55 GB free disk space

>>58196518
Shut up faggot
Keep that shit on leddit

>>58196553
Sounds like a steal, go buy

>>58196578
I've seen them as low as $140 complete in grade A/B condition.

As for me, I bought them under $100 if I can so I can build it up to be $200 or $250.

I did a long post about the DankPad on my site, check it out if you want to know what it can do n what not.
>http://www.dankpads.com/2016/02/t420-general-info.html

>>58196597
I think the Yoga is more expensive because its a touchbased laptop. so you have the touchscreen tax on it.

Ideally, I don't recommend the E series for ThinkPads, they are essentially a consumer laptop w/ a ThinkPad style keyboard and look. The frame isn't made with a magnesium composite, just a plastic composite, but unlike the former stronger R series because they want to make it light/sleek. However the good thing is that you will have a warranty on it so there's that.

Are there not any Latitudes or Elitebooks available in your country?

>>58196402
I seldom ship to Europe because of batteries and random shipping fees. Then there's the person who bids on it and then asks "Can you not use the global shipping program"...

>>58196721
Dell and HP are available, but they are also very expensive because you can only buy them with business warranties. A similar Latitude costs about $2000 and has a slower and older CPU.

I don't really care about the touch screen, not having one is actually a plus, since I assume it means more battery life.

Is the E series really that bad compared to consumer laptops? I fully expect it to last only 3 or 4 years.

i'm a paranoid retard that got a seemingly mint T43 for less than 50$ and i'm suspicious as fuck, i dban'd the hard drive and reset the BIOS, what are the chances of some sort of super spooky malware tracking my gay furry dragon dildo searches or something?

>>58196695
Well, you could get by with even a celeron based R500. I have 4GB in mine, it's got bigger than a 124X768 display, dual core, (go with a Core 2 Duo model) and it has a DVD RW drive. Literally any thinkpad newer than a R500 will do. Even the i3 variants. If you plan on gaming with it I'd do the i5/i7

>>58196721
What's wrong with the global shipping program
t. Doesn't use ebay

>>58196826
yeah no gaming, just making music and general internet usage. Cool, I'll look out for one of those then. The link in the OP says to avoid the r series though, any idea why that might be?

If you aren't scared of getting your hands dirty and refurbishing a used laptop, Goodwill-Maine on eBay has some great selections for stupid cheap. http://www.ebay.com/sch/PC-Laptops-Netbooks/177/m.html?_nkw=&_armrs=1&_ipg=&_from=&_ssn=goodwill-maine

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>>58196809
pretty low
old shit like that isnt very expensive

Source:
>i bought 6 old fuckers

My R52 was "mint" and cost me about 30$

>>58196885
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420-Laptop-i5-2520M-2-5GHz-4GB-RAM-No-HDD-/302170958558?hash=item465acaeade:g:d1AAAOSw44BYWBUm

>>58196924
looks like nothing is included

>>58196981
Well, it's just a bare bones PC. Factor in about $40 for a power supply, another $80-ish for a good SSD (because why not) or like $45 for a 500GB HDD, and well, that's it. so for about 150 you'll have a PC, if you use the windows 7 key on the bottom to re-install.

>>58197024
Fuck I can't math.. Also if you use a hard disk you already have, that's a $free.99 part.

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Did I do good?

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That's a good buy.

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>>58196721
>I seldom ship to Europe
oh boy!

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>>58197113
what a relief, first thinkpad

>>58197155
nice dubs. also yeah, just expect the battery to be shit, With that said, a new one is only like $30, but you can wait on that since a perfect battery isn't 100% necessary for a working laptop.

>>58197198
right, I'll get one down the line. I'll just have it on life support until then.

>>58197213
I'd actually be surprised if you couldn't get about 2 hours out of it. I've bought sooo many off-lease seconds off of ebay and like 80% of them had near perfect batteries.

>>58197251
man 2 hour battery life sounds awful, is that somwhat normal? also is a ram upgrade worth it later on?

>>58197288
I run a bunch of CPU heavy stuff on my laptops, so 2 hours is good. lol and yes, DDR3 ram is dirt cheap. you could get 8 GB for next to nothing on Ebay, just buy from places like where you got the laptop. the eWaste recyclers usually know how to handle and package the ram so they don't get zapped by static electricity.

i think a lot of laptop owners overestimate how much time they spend off ac power. i just ordered the 4-cell for my x220 that sits totally flush since i want less weight and size in the bag more than i need 8+ hrs of battery power. who's really not bringing the adapter with them anyway?

>>58196829
too bad
also use a trip or stop with with the t. faggot shit, newfag

>global shipping program, costs more for the buyer but keeps the seller safe from all the random fees, filing, & shipping assortments.
However I've had a few buyers ask if I could not use the global shipping program after they win the auction, (which I cannot change), which ends up sounding like a 'just send me your paypal email, paypal is safe' scam.

>>58197061
Yeah. Bought from Green Citizen a few times before, they are pretty accurate & made money by reselling them.

>>58197061
>420s
u dun goofd kiddo
not gonna find batteries for this one easy

>>58197364
there seems to be a lot on ebay right now, hopefully that isn't a problem in the future when I do decide to buy one.
>>58197362
>>58197348
Cool, thanks a lot dudes

How is this deal? What would the max bid be? Shipping is another ~$27.
http://www.ebay.com/itm/302177856544

>>58197415
Also, you simply won't be able to grab_it_by_the_9-cell_battery like real men do.

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>>58197451

Just got my x220
The track pad moves smoothly but the nipple mouse sorta lags, is this normal?

>>58197416
This is probably the best BIN T460 I can find
http://www.ebay.com/itm/272492478757

>>58197415
I think I paid $45 for a replacement battery, $35 for a 6 cell. OEM ofc.

I always buy OEM batteries. the only one I haven't was for this X40, and I really don't care about it.

>>58197589
Thanks for the link

>>58195228
burn board? wtf?
cpu upgrades on laptops work just like desktops, you uneducated artard

>>58197557
No.
What OS do you have?
additionally, reinstall the trackpoint driver

>>58198190
It came with Windows 8.1 but I installed manjaro on it, the issue remained the same on both operating systems

How do I grab the drivers on Linux?

>>58198542
Strange.
I would remove the keyboard and reinsert it, maybe the connection isn't seated properly.

I never had any problems with TrackPoint working on Linux, only when it comes to the middle scroll needing an additional script.

As far as drivers... you shouldn't need anything. it must be a hardware problem.

>>58198542
Maybe you aren't used to the squishy rubber?

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>Start lurking /tpg/, piqued interest in Thinkpads
>Start patiently browsing eBay for gud deals
>Cop almost-new T430 for $150
>i5, 8GB RAM, SSD, just needs battery replacement
>Read up on eGPUs
>Cop PE4C, GTX 1060 6GB
>Works perfectly with minimal setup
>All I have to do is plug in ExpressCard in sleep mode
>Runs most vidya on ultra even without external monitor
Thanks /tpg/

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Is flashing bios on x220 risky? I bought few days ago and thinking about flashing

>>58196341
>wanting to turn a low-profile non-ATX C2D machine into a NAS
Why? Just get a Supermicro board with an embedded system instead of throwing money at trying to find hardware that won't overload the PSU and fit the low-profile case.

If you just want to pimp out the machine you could always try sticking an old Xeon into it.

>>58198713
You on windows or Linux?

I actually have a spare PSU and gtx750ti sitting around i was thinking of ebaying, but you just reminded me I could do this setup

could you take a pic please? do you leave the laptop plugged in when gaming?
battery in as well or just ac power?

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>>58198713
>tfw

>>58198751
I Was thinking of that too, ill have to find what the mobo supports, i know it can handle a c2quad, which might be fun
But its really just a project for fun, and it has two 3.5" bays so i can run two disks in raid

>>58198736
I think Lenovo has a utility that does it for you so that should be a relatively low-risk way to update it.

Does anybody know how to open the case of 9-cell X220 without destroying it?

>>58192070
>>58191696
>>58191380
>>58191439
How are your temps?

>go to medical revision few weeks after surgery
>most of the staff's computers have thinkpad mouse, thinkpad screens
>most of the laptops are thinkpads
why are hospitals in Spain so based ?

>>58198958
>surgery
que te paso, amigo?

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>>58198770
Windows 7 right now. You may not even need the PSU for the 750ti depending on its power consumption, could just get a Dell D220P AC adapter like I'm using with my setup. Although I guess you might as well, since the PE4C doesn't come with an adapter anyway.

Laptop is always plugged in since the battery it came with is shit. EGPU should work fine with just the battery, although I don't know why you wouldn't just plug it in since it's tethered regardless.

Pls excuse my disgusting cables

>>58198958
Lenovo supplies gubmints and public sector in many countries, not only US, they even announced a ThinkCentre with russian meme cpu.

>>58199065
I use a t430 with 8gb and ssd, right now, all I need is the expresscard adapter?

can you spoonfeed me what I need plocks?

>>58188748
Bumping this for help, are e470 really that Bad? I didnt have to repair a Laptop for 25 years of using them and i never had the frame Break on me

>>58199103
>ThinkCentre with russian meme cpu
Do you have any additional info?

>>58199201
lurk for Baikal-T1

Lads, I just bought a brand new X250, and there is no internal battery, my Model is the "20CLS6PW00" and I can't find chat shit about it using any of the tools provided in the sticky, or lenovos site, it's not even listed in the lenovo PSREF. Any help? I want to know what this laptop is SUPPOSED to ship with, to check I wasn't bamboozled.

>>58199050
lung collapse
everythings fine and dandy now, just had to sleep with a tube to my lung for a few days!
>>58199103
thats pretty neat. what i didnt like so much is that they actually burn CDs for each X-Ray session

>>58199153
Friend has an E series thinkpad (I think E540 or E550), and the hinges are totally fucked after a few years. The build quality simply isn't what you would expect from a thinkpad. It's simply a consumer laptop, similar to the ideapad series

>>58199153
i used an e thinkpad before, was nice

but i agree with most of the sentiment that prevails on /g/

there is no reason to buy a lesser device when you will be using it for years, and also the magnesium rollcage is breddy guud

>>58199521
I cant find something with even similar specs for the cost (800€) though

>>58199546
because it isn't possible due to jewish tricks

that is why we all wait for 3-4 years to buy used thinkpads, :^)

the t430 offers excellent performance nowadays though, it is what i'm using right now

>>58199103
>>58199201
bump
>>58199490
ouch

>>58199628
Another Anon already answered:
>>58199227

>>58188748
Use the discount link in the Pastebin
The base model is $654.48
Get this SSD
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01IAGSD68/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_OiVyybY0CSQVR
And this RAM:
>https://www.amazon.com/dp/B007B5S52C/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_ep_dp_miVyybB6PQ2SA
$824.46 total
I think that's a pretty good deal
I would argue that i7 is unecessary if you're going to have enough ram and ssd, which you do. better to save the money

>>58199626
So if i use it mostly for stationary things and dont mind replacing it after 5 years the e470 is fine?

I have a refurbished thinkpad, with a license that only the refurbished can use. How do I make a Boot USB for Windows 7?

>>58199724
Build a fucking desktop for gayming fag

>>58199703
Base Model for the e470 you mean?

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>>58198935

what do you guys do when you have a laptop without a working battery?
what are some tips for selling not-so-great laptops and computers ?

>>58199755
No, I meant the base model for the t460 is $654.48.

And that SSD is currently on sale making it a pretty spectacular buy IMO, samsung evo is overrated as shit

I need to know the good and the bad between the X220 vs the T420. I'm considering both of them for my next laptop. What I already know is
>screen sizes are different, naturally
>the T420 has worse screens but can be upgraded through either getting the 1600x900 screen or putting in screens from other laptops that work better
>the T420 is thicker than the X220 and has an (unneeded) RJ11 port
>the X220 has some weird warping problem on the screen bezel when in direct sunlight (not really a problem considering replacement bezels from other models can be put on and from some of the ebay ads I'm looking at I'll need to replace the bezels to begin with)
>the T420 can swap out the CPU, the X220 has the CPU soldered on
>X220 has a bit better battery, probably due to the smaller screen
I'm basically on the fence about both of them. All I will end up using them for is for school and office work and potentially using them outside (which gives the X220 an advantage in this decision) but I also want to hear from other people.

>>58199913
only used an x220 but i currently use a t430

i would go with x220 because of battery life and coolness factor

>>58199956
Funny thing is I am technically considering the T430 too, but it was more of a 3rd option. Granted your endorsement does say a bit about the X220.

>>58199152
You just need a PE4C, make sure to get the EC version:
http://www.mfactors.com/pe4c-v3-0-ec060a-pm060a-hp060a/

Like I said, you could use your PSU, but if you want to save space you can get a Dell D220P power brick on ebay for like 15 bux.

When you have the PE4C set up, plug in the power, plug in the expresscard into your Thinkpad while it's off, and then boot up. Also, at least with my setup, I have to boot with any external display cables unplugged from the GPU or else it gets stuck. You can plug them in once your OS loads. Proceed with installing drivers, rebooting, and then check Device Manager (assuming you're on Windows) to see if the card is recognized. I ran into error code 43 here, the fix for me was installing older (372.70) nvidia drivers. Worked perfectly afterwards. You can plug the expresscard in/out while in sleep mode afterwards whenever you want.

If you run into any issues, highly recommend TechInferno. I'll be making a more detailed guide there for my setup once I build my case.

I spilled vodka on my T520 keyboard the other night and it really fucked things. When I try to turn it on I get some sequence of lights. I unplugged the cmos overnight and got into the bios and booted like normal up until the start screen where it shut off and returned to it's old behavior. Is it salvageable?

>>58200191
dont reply 2 this guy he SMELLS realy bad

>>58199788
I dont See it available in Europe for less than 900€

>>58186286
No. Accounting requires hardly any processing power, and 1366x768 is fine for spreadsheets and word processing (which is likely 99% of your coursework)

If I bought a refurbished x201 with win 7, will it probably have malware on it

>>58194962
ebay, ~$60 for a 9-cell, 10 hours on Xubuntu, 13+ on a WM like i3.

>>58200661
Definitely, luckily it isn't too hard to erase all that malware and install a *nix operating system instead

is the t450 worth it yet?

>>58200584
Sorry, I forgot the perks at work discount only worked in the US and Canada. Looks like you're fucked unless you want to refurbish an old one, which is actuslly a good option

Is this compatible with a T420 is I want to replace the HDD?

https://www.amazon.com/PNY-CS1311-240GB-Internal-Solid/dp/B019H3B3OW/ref=sr_1_3?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1482885430&sr=1-3&refinements=p_n_feature_keywords_two_browse-bin%3A4929543011%2Cp_n_feature_keywords_four_browse-bin%3A6158693011%2Cp_n_feature_three_browse-bin%3A14027458011

>>58201089
Well i dont mind going for a e470 then, only has to carry me through the 3-4 years of my phd

>>58201104
Why is this on sale everywhere?
I literally just picked one up.
It should fit in your dankpad

>>58201199
I just pulled the trigger as well. It's 7mm height so it should fit

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>Your recent order from Lenovo has been cancelled. We are unable to complete the transaction with the information that has been provided.
I don't want to live like this any more
I don't want to live at all

>>58201231
What did you order?

>>58201231
P50anon?

>>58201231
What did they mean by that?

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Just got my first ThinkPad (T420) for Christmas and decided to install Arch on it. This is what I've got so far. I'm absolutely loving this laptop so far.

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>>58201364
Here's the wallpaper

>>58185982

>not having a SOIC clip and spi flasher

GTFO newfag

>>58201364
Is pacman hard to learn?

>>58201364
>1366x768

How can you be loving it?

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>>58201231
Fucking hipster faggots and their attention whoring. We all know that song.

>>58201468
Uh what? you just do pacman -S package-name to install and pacman -R to remove.

Not hard.

>>58201276
>>58201309
I'm >>58194593
This pisses me off so much. This is the second time I tried ordering this fucking laptop, the first time they fucked up the shipping and after hours on the phone with Lenovo I still haven't got a refund after over a month.

I'm done with this bullshit. I'm just going to order a T420 tomorrow, which is honestly what I should have done to begin with. I just get really nervous buying third party when I can't inspect the product before I buy it, I'll be fucking triggered if I buy a T420 and it has scratches or dead pixels.

>>58201475
1366x768 is literally the comfiest resolution

>>58201491
I just thought it was melodramatic and funny, anon. Why do you hate HANL so much?

>>58201520
Why is Europe so gay, a t460 is 900€ here and thats the most basic model

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>>58201468
these are pretty much the only commands you need to know

Where can I buy a SATA II to USB-A adapter?

>>58201584
how do you get i3 to look like that?

>>58201523
No. 1600x900 is

>>58201584
That's a comfy looking i3 setup. Any special config tweaks?

>>58201609
All i did was set the terminal to 50% transparency, removed titlebar/scrollbar and changed the background. I use the "Terminator" terminal.

The rest is just using i3's built-in floaty windows function (mod + shift + space) and then moving them around with (mod + leftmouse + drag)

>>58201653

see >>58201671

>>58201364
The only thing keeping me away is the 1366x768 res, is it as bad of a screen as everyone keeps saying?

>>58201653
I'm using this Vim config https://github.com/amix/vimrc

I also added this to my .vimrc in order to make it transparent:

hi Normal guibg=NONE ctermbg=NONE
hi NonText ctermbg=none

>>58201723
The resolution is not so bad. The screen itself is what really bothers me the most. You need to be looking at it from the perfect angle or else everything becomes blurry and kind of unreadable.

Can I run ArcGIS on a 1440p monitor off of an x230?

New thread:
>>58202238