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Is pic related worth buying for learning algorithms for use in programming?

Also general books thread
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don't buy anything
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Good for theory of a ton of algorithms (sort, graph, etc)
Not so nice for practical since everything is pseudocode
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>>58150508
this
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>>58150543
nigga, you are not supposed to copy the code from the book into your program. It's there to understand the working of various algorithm and get a feel for efficiency, running.time etc. Also most likely you dont need to write any of these algorithm in any language anyway, they are used in the default libaries most of the time anyways.
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>>58150596
>that last book

tip top kek
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>>58150543
>Not so nice for practical since everything is pseudocode

holy shit neck yourself
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>>58150411
It's a seminal work; I jack off to it every day.
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>>58150658
>PDF named Physics

t...thanks
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>>58150658
mega?
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>>58150919
Seconded
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>>58150658
Can you share your archive with us?
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>>58150658

EE?
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>>58150411
The book will teach you everything about algorithms- Do you want to know everything about algorithms? then buy it. If not, then search for a pdf no longer than 40 pages and learn the actual algorithms, try them, and experience and asking around will tell you when to use quicksort instead of radix sort. Algorithms aren't hard.
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>>58151424
>search for a pdf no longer than 40 pages
is there a place you go looking for pdfs like that?
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>>58151457
Google, of course. Many universities make handouts that are freely available on internet.
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>>58150596
Here's /g/'s real book list
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>>58150411
I bought Algorithms by Sedgewick/Wayne... It teachs you how to program in Java while teach you Algorithms... it's a great book...
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>>58152291
>It teachs you how to program in Java

Into the trash it goes.
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>>58151541
masters of doom teaches programming concepts?
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>>58150919
>>58151076

https://mega.nz/#F!NA1VibTI!e0D6yaxkbRnouShArbHTPg

>>58151391

CE
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>>58151361

See >>58152537
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>>58150411
It's the best of the best.
Any computer scientist/programmer should have it.
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>>58150610
>Also most likely you dont need to write any of these algorithm in any language anyway, they are used in the default libaries most of the time anyways.

then why bother?
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>>58152438
>masters of doom teaches programming concepts?


>every good book is supposed to teach you more ways to reverse binary trees


fuck off retard
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>>58150596
That convex optimization book is very difficult. I want to learn it, but the linear algebra I learned in university don't seem to be enough. What should I read to prepare myself for that convex optimization book?
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>>58152537
>CE

lmao CE is fucking shit. have fun learning a noob salad of everything tech related.

at least with CS you kinda go into formal languages, machine learning, computational shit and so on, and with EE you go into networks, low level hardware circuits and shit.

this is why pajeets are taking over.
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>>58152593
Because the algorithms presented outline many of the best approaches to solve problems that are common for programmers.
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>>58152669
>Because the algorithms presented outline many of the best approaches to solve problems that are common for programmers.


surely you meant to say


>Because the algorithms presented outline many of the best approaches to solve highschool/programming competitions problems that are common for highschool/1st year uni programmers.
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>>58150411
nothing you can't learn from wikipedia, take it from a Computer Engineer, the only way you can really learn something is by applying it , that means coding. After you coded your first sorting bsp algorithm you can feel your way around.
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>>58152649
>this is why pajeets are taking over.
>pajeets taking over anything

3rd worlders can't even code their way out of a recursive function.
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>>58152537

>software engineering

>gnu make

>linux_system_programming

seriously lmaoing right now desu
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>>58152903

Fixed.
Sry senpai

>>58152649

Well, it's fine for me.
I work as a test engineer with some embedded stuff.
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I've got CLRS 2nd edition with the old fucking pseudocode style.

I want to neck myself.
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>>58152841
>3rd worlders can't even code their way out of a recursive function.


yet they take your jobs

qed
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>>58150658

> C++ 14 Quick Syntax Reference.pdf

what a strange book
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>>58152537
I didn't get to finish the download, can you put the link back up ;_;
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>>58152537
They brought it down already, fucking hell.
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Where can I order books online and pay with bitcoin?
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Is Sedgewick's algorithms any good? I just bought the old one with everything in pascal off amazon for like $3. Did I dundid goof?
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>>58152291
its free online dummy
>>58152416
java is just an interface to express how the algorithms are put into programming, you can easily convert it to a different language of your own choice.
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>>58154602
go to princetons website and find it, its free and the site has lots of information to read about to go with the book.
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One does not simply read a programming book
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>>58154883
cant find the link to download the book on princetons website
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>>58151541
This is actually pretty solid
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>>58151541

4/20 actually almost useful irl

the rest is snake oil memery
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>>58150411
Humble Bundle has some books, enjoy

https://www.humblebundle.com/books/code-your-own-games-book-bundle
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>>58150411
My Algorithms course uses this book. Am I at a good school /g/?
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>>58150543
>Not so nice for practical since everything is pseudocode
typical pajeet. Can't be bothered to understand. Surprised you could even be bothered to read.
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>>58156692
It's a pretty standard/ubiquitous textbook. My uni uses it too.
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>>58150411
The best to learn is Skeina's Algo design manual http://www.algorist.com/

CLRS has a good intro chapter, which is essentially the same as the 'Mathematical Preliminaries' in Kuth's Art of Programming Vol 1 but a little easier.

If you really want to learn algorithms you of course read TAOCP, and not as a reference. It's doable, the first volume at least (I did it). Red/Black trees are in there, described under 'Mathematical Properties of Trees' even though idiots claim they aren't in TAOCP. I prepped for TAOCP by reading CS:APP 3/e
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>>58151541
Great list esp Programming Pearls, which is mandatory read for any Jewggle interview.

I would remove Sedgewick's Algo book and replace with Skeina's, I would rip out the Dragon book as it focuses a lot on parser generators and says almost nothing about analysis and optimization which is what any compiler developer would want to do, plus you have to read Introduction to Automata Theory, Languages, and Computation (3rd Edition) first before attempting Le Dragon book.

Lisp in Small Pieces or EoPL should be in there too just as a large overview of programming languages. EoPL is fantastic http://www.eopl3.com/

This book should also be added, since nothing in there talks about hardware http://csapp.cs.cmu.edu/
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>>58152537
Yep, link is down :(
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I remember impressing my college instructor with my "design patterns" from this book.

>Instructor: How the fuck did you come up with a pattern like that? A+ !!!
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>>58157747
Just use libgen.io to pie rat any texts, or sci-hub if you want access to current academic journals
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>>58157721
This seems like some good advice. What do you think of the introduction to theory of computation by sipser? I was thinking about buying that next.
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Since I'm involved in software security, I will present a list of books if you're also interested in this (and have read K&R plus CS:APP (asm))

- Tangled Web: A Guide to Securing Modern Web Applications
- The Web Application Hacker's Handbook
- The Art of Software Security Assessment (if you want to sell exploits to TheGrugq)
- A bug hunter's diary : a guided tour through the wilds of software security
- Robert Seacord's CERT book on secure C programming
- Greyhat Python (only so you can learn to write your own security tests)
- crypto101.io
- cryptopals.com challenges
- memorycorruption.com
- Buy a copy of Burp Suite and zing down old wordpress installs and attack your own Rails sites
- Every book on Graph Theory you can find. For instance, Halvar Flake and his team at Zynamics use graph isomorphisms of basic blocks in BinDiff, which is the industry standard tool for reversing security patches back to vulnerabilities (IDA pro)
- Research papers on Arxiv and in academic journals pirated via Sci-Hub so you can learn how to extract Control Flow Graph's and run SAT solvers on them.

SMT (satisfiability module theory) solvers basically allow you to do things which are slightly more complex than plain SAT solving.

If you're looking to learn more, Leonardo has a nice introduction to SMT and its applications over here: http://dl.acm.org/citation.cfm?id=1995394. To make a long story short, various problems in program verification and static analysis have seen success with SMT.

That's all I got, don't do anything stupid unless you live in Russia because you will get caught even if you are Jason Bourne running around the country. People will pay you a lot of money to break their shit legally so good luck.
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>>58157887
Yes.

I also like Papadimitriou's textbooks: Elements of the Theory of Computation and Computational Complexity.

Another book not here is The Computational Beauty of Nature, it's sort of like GEB (Godel, Escher, Bach) in that it gives you a treatise of computer science to see if you're still interested. https://mitpress.mit.edu/books/computational-beauty-nature

I originally learned recursion, proofs, set theory/axioms, calculus and linear algebra just from GEB and the Computational Beauty of Nature so when I came across it later in classes I was already familiar with them
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>>58150543
> Not so nice for practical since everything is pseudocode
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>>58157926
Thanks, I appreciate the advice. Ill have to save to text file so I can come back to it later.
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>>58157952
More advice, I use Abe Books to buy "international versions" of textbooks because they are only 10% the regular price.

For example, CS:APP 3rd edition is $300USD. Abe Books has it for $30, exact same book just the front cover says 'Not for sale in Canada or USA'
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>>58152416
Into the street is goes.

FTFY
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>>58157887
Sipser's book is good.
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>>58150411
Also math books that help, assuming the reader knows nothing:

- Basic College Mathematics by Margaret L. Lial et all. This is elementary school math (do you really remember fractions?)
- Precalculus by Sheldon Axler because it has a student solutions manual (every second exercise's solution is shown to you in its entirety).
- Elements of Mathematics: From Euclid to Godel. This gives you a great overview of all 'elementary' mathematics, and shows you some advanced stuff. Quick read, amazing text.
- How to Prove it by Velleman. Required if you want to understand GEB, or do proofs.
- What is Mathematics? By Courant is great to read after SICP, it's sort of the SICP of math.
- Apostol's Calculus I and II. Analysis and Linear Algebra intro. You can read Spivak's Calculus instead and skip Apostol vol I if you want.

.. at this point you have a good foundation in math and can go in any direction, but since this is a CompSci thread

- Linear Algebra by Sheldon Axler though there is some criticism to be had here with Axler's book is a bit troublesome in inventing new terminology unnecessarily. Still a must read.
- Algebra: Chapter 0. Paolo Aluffi (read the errata page though or bang your head repeatedly). This is probably the best book I've ever read done by a mathematician
- Concrete Math which will make you a better programmer guaranteed.
- TAOCP, now you can actually do the exercises which you should try, just 30 min a day get up early and leaf through the book for a few months. There's so many gems in here like how to design a program from scratch, common pitfalls that are still relevant, how O notation can fool you into using the wrong algorithm and other important advice. It truly is the Art of Programming.

I use the LA knowledge from Aluffi and Axler to ace those annoying white board interviews too or codify tests. LA to me is the most important math to learn if doing any kind of programming.
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>>58158469
>tfw Terry A Davis will never write a book on programming
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>>58154602
>>58155402
You can find it for free online just google the title name with pdf attached to the search query.

Watch his videos on Coursera, they follow the book.

Personally I don't like the book nor his coursera videos.


My advice is if you want to learn Discrete math and Data Structures then start by buying and going through the Zybooks on Discrete Math then Data Structures, then Algorithms Unlocked, then CLRS @ >>58150411
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Read all EE and CompSci/Math books, congrats you can now cast fireballds

http://4chan-science.wikia.com/wiki//sci/_Wiki
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>>58150411
I've read "algorithms in a nutshell" and liked it, dunno about that book.
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>>58150543
> Not so nice for practical since everything is pseudocode

>Not being able to convert pseudocode to a programming language.
wew, lad
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is it even worth to read a book on html and css? which?
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>>58150411
Are books even worth reading anymore? I've heard that most programmers don't use books nowadays and they just learn what they need as they need it by googling stackoverflow n shit
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>>58158935
Only top tier (0.1%) of programmers reads more than 5 books in their lifetime. And those are just shitty books non computer theory/math
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>>58158921
No. I think thats just all about reference material. Theres not really much to learn.
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>>58158935
I think reading a book to get a grasp of the most common algorithms is more convenient than looking at them separately.

Books don't have inherently better content though, all that shit is accessible in other ways nowadays.
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>>58158935
thats a bit superficial tho innit?

in projects and shit, when problems arise, i think its aiiiight to google it, but being able think for yoself and solve problems is very important and imo books help in that
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>>58158970
that u tyrone?
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>>58158935
Definitely still worth reading books. You cant get design patterns and the bigger picture of programming and computer science from just googling.
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>>58159013
no thats I, yo main man, ali g, aiiii?
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>>58158935
Doing that is a great way to be a fucking code monkey.

You cannot learn data structures and algorithms from SO alone.
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>>58152438
Yeah it teaches how to be baller
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>>58158935
Modern programming like say, Machine Learning or Web Programming is about "poking at big libraries" to find out what they do according to Sussman and he's right.

However being able to open up that library and find out what it does will still make you a better programmer of course. In my day to day job before I got into security testing I was just stringing together libraries and was surprised they were paying me $150k/year to do that. RabbitMQ plus some ruby gems junk or React shit is typically all you're doing these days.

The majority of my programming now is just for fun like it was years ago when I first started, the programming I'm paid to do anybody here who's read an intro to python book can do.
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>>58159098
Speaking of MOD, if you want another good book read the book about Max Ray Vision aka Iceman. He made his baller means jacking other criminals and for fun I do this too, just go on some drug dealer site and jab at their stack you'll be surprised how easy it is, plus nobody will come after you for robbing other criminals, just don't touch any credit card info/stolen dbs go after bitcoins and esp Zero Cash because it's untraceable. Good luck
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best book to learn CPP?
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>>58150596

Some of those are really good.

Hoping to add Practical Foundations of Programming Languages to this list. It complements Pierce's Types and Programming Languages really well. It's pretty theoretical but approaches PL engineering from a type-theoretical perspective that's really consistent and powerful.
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anyone got any good books for starting neural networks ? if any related math books are required for it, please list those too. much appreciated ;)
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>>58150596
where's the torrent?
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>>58160425
I'd also like to know this.

Stroustroup's book makes me want to cut myself.
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>>58158970
>but being able think for yoself and solve problems


you dumb cunt, how many real life problems you can solve in a medium sized project by reading "introduction to the theory of computation" over and over?
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>>58158935
>Are books even worth reading
not for u
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>>58158619
>CIA Niggers: A Practical Approach
>The Word of God: Essential Stochastic String Algorithms
>VGA Graphics: Bringing Your Applications in to the 20th Century.
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>>58162650
>CIA Niggers: A Practical Approach

Would buy
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>>58150658
Olá anão :3
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>>58158872
Be more fair to him --

Translating math to code is a skill that takes practice, and having a leg up with a demo here and there really helps. Learning by example is what we do.
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If you want to learn data structures & algorithms learn discrete math first.

I recommend this book for discrete. Covers topics most discrete courses don't have time for. Then buy their data structures book, then move to something like CLRS
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>>58151541
Nothing on TDD?
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>>58158742
>http://4chan-science.wikia.com/wiki//sci/_Wiki

holy shit that's real
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>>58151541
It's missing formal semantics.
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Does anyone know anything about this book? I bought it so I could learn emacs lisp for writing extensions and config files but I dont know whether I should put energy into working through this or something else.
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>>58150596
>>58151541
well, damn, thats a lot of pages but at least part of that sounds intriguing.
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>>58165761
Doing that book will make you a better programmer in general, but to learn Emacs Lisp specifically read the info manual "An Introduction to Programming in Emacs Lisp" that is bundled with your Emacs (`C-h i` then select "Emacs Lisp Intro" from the Table of Contents) as it enables you to evaluate the example lisp forms in-line in addition to being a really great and pedagogical introduction to elisp.

There's also this:
https://emacs-doctor.com/learn-emacs-lisp-in-15-minutes.html

And the official GNU manual https://www.gnu.org/software/emacs/manual/elisp.html which you can buy in hardcopy used if you go on Abe Books and look for it https://www.abebooks.com/servlet/BookDetailsPL?bi=20778787510

That said you may also want to learn Guile because Guilemacs is now a thing, and it's almost complete.
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>>58164652
What do I need to know before Discrete Math, though, Calculus?
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>>58166220
Further, if you check out GuixSD you can run your entire operating system with Emacs + Guile.

Emacs now has support for C modules in version 25, so tighter integration is possible where you can even try and run it standalone on vanilla kernel http://www.informatimago.com/linux/emacs-on-user-mode-linux.html
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>>58166284
Velleman's How to Prove it book, Abstract Algebra or Linear Algebra, Graph Theory books.

Calc isn't needed, but if you did do Apostol's or Spivak's calc book you'd get a firm grounding in introductory analysis and have a lot of experience doing proofs but it's not required to learn discrete math.
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>>58166329

Well, 2017 is going to be fun. Can you recommend any books on Abstract/Linear Algebra, and graphs?
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>>58166284
counting
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Is there a book that's less about theory and tools and focuses more on building example software from the ground up?
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>>58166373
Skiena, Algorithm Design Manual has graph algorithms, or this which is heavily proof centric http://diestel-graph-theory.com/

MIT has a good gigantic book of lecture notes on Discrete Math (plus videos on Open Courseware)
https://courses.csail.mit.edu/6.042/spring16/mcs.pdf

Or just dive into Concrete Math by knuth and when you run into something you don't understand wikipedia it
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>>58166451
yes, tons
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>>58166482
Thank you!
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what would be the best way to get into graphic programming with books?

I've been trying apply some linear algebra into some code(c++ & sfml) and started to read a bible on openGL. Are there must read books? I've googled a bit and haven't really seen any "this book changed my life and the whole industry, behead those who insult this book!".
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>>58166505
Any good examples?
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>>58166539
Depends on what you are making.

"Practical Django Projects" by James Bennet is pretty great if you want to make web applications in Django.
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>>58166507
There's also this, the lectures are open
http://www.cs.cmu.edu/~./15251/schedule.html

Bottom of the page has full lecture notes.

All of this will make sense if you read Velleman's How to Prove it book first.
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>>58166565
Thanks. I'd appreciate something similar for Java, C++, or even C#. All I can do at the moment are little fizzbuzz tier stuff on the console, so I'm craving some more practical guides.
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>>58166513
The "Red book" http://www.opengl-redbook.com/
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>>58166451
Zed Shaw has videos where he shows exactly how he goes about building software from the ground up, starting with small snippets and just making one thing work, then fleshing it out. Not sure if they're still avail without paying on his site (check his jewtube channel).

There's also edx 'Systematic Software Design' which uses HtDP book. It will teach from the ground up design https://www.edx.org/course/how-code-systematic-program-design-part-ubcx-spd1x

Practice of Programming has good advice for building programs, Mythical Man Month, The Imposter's Guide https://bigmachine.io/products/the-imposters-handbook/

The best were the Zed Shaw vids if you can find them
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>>58166714
> Zed Shaw

Jesus christ.
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>>58166611
C++, to be honest, is what I would call "bad freedom".

I could say that, because it's closer to the hardware, you have more opportunities for speed, but, at the same time, compilers aren't dumb, these days.

Really, when you have good software practices -- the type Uncle Bob would be proud of -- you see why Java is actually pretty solid.
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>>58150596
b-but there is no need to learn math to be programmer
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>>58166661
I'm going to read it then. But considering newly released vulkan, wouldn't it be better to read vulkan's red book?
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>>58166714

Zed Shaw's Learn Python the hard way and even learn C the hard way are really good books for someone just starting computer programming, but that's where it ends.

Even if you wanna go into Test Driven Development with Python, Obey the Goat, that's pretty good, too.

But, after that, you gotta go with Clean Code, Design Patterns, and so on.
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oc merry christmas /g/
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Should I move on to K&R after C primer plus?
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>>58164652
What is this book or site?
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>>58158469
where can I find that book for 10$?

The cheapest is 35$.
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I am starting to learn C for the sole purpose of creating little text or curses (a library) based programs, but can't find cookbooks for anything.

Anything on creating any of these:
A little unix command.
Curses based file manager.
Curses based music player.
BBS (bulletin board system).
MUD (Multi-User Dungeon).
Etc.

Anything is welcome.
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>>58167159
>A little unix command.
just a binary on the user path, usually /bin or /usr/bin

>Curses based file manager.
find one and read the source. vifm, for example

>Curses based music player.
same as above. ncmpp or other meme player

>BBS (bulletin board system).
same as above

>MUD (Multi-User Dungeon).
i don't know this meme
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>>58150596
>don't buy
>posts more products
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>>58167455
download it, see if you need a physical copy at all

unless you're retarded rich of course
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>>58166451
Practical common Lisp,land of Lisp (games)
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THE ONE AND ONLY
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>>58166285
Damn thats pretty cool. I'll have to check it out I'm not sure if I'd ever do it. But thanks anyway for the info.
Also fuck these select the street sign captchas. Do these actually work the way theyre supposed to for anyone?
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>>58150596
I thought Engineering a Compiler was a great book. Enjoyed learning the math behind optimizations.
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What book(s) would be good for learning Haskell?
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>>58168643
>learning Haskell

If you want to have a good job avoid meme languages and focus on improving your main ones.
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>>58169439
Nothing wrong with Haskell
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>>58169439
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Newfag here, what should I read after k&r?
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Any good resources for high performance cucks?
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