Obsolete tech. I wonder if a USB 3.0 PCI card exist. You would

>>58145770
that's actually pretty funny desu
PCI BTFO

>>58145770
PCI can go up to just over 500MB/s, only a bit less than the 625MB/s of 3.0.

>>58145770
your down syndrome is showing

>>58145882
I'm pretty sure the 133 MB/s one is the one you will find on most motherboards.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conventional_PCI

>>58145882
>>58145986
whichever one it is, it will always be bottlenecked; especially when using multiple devices

>>58145986
PCI has already been replaced by PCI Express though. A latest version PCIe x16 bus can reach throughputs of like 14GB/s.

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Lets see if you can name what this obsolete slot is /g/
Yes, that one half is PCI but it is not PCI-X.

>>58146136
isa?

>>58146136
>tfw reverse image search exists and it is too easy

>>58146136

VLB?

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>>58145770

>>58146310

The command set is very much alive.

>>58146136
Some kind of PCI variant slot, I forget what its called exactly.

>>58145770
PCI can do 500MB/s, and usb 2.0 tends to peak around 30MB/s in real life usage. 35MB/s if you're lucky.

>>58146330
Command set is alive yeah, but it's evolved very far from what it used to be in the 80's and 90's on many other levels.

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>>58146136
Looks like PCI X to me.

>>58146136
asus media bus

>>58145770
They do exist, and they have a purpose.

You can get greater than USB2.0 speeds over the PCI bus to a single device.

I have a mini PCI-e 1.0 card in my server that gives me two USB3.0 ports I use for backups. Better than using the USB2 ports. Same speed bus as PCI too.

>>58146383
PCI-X has the key on the rear like pcie does. This is some nonstandard manufacturer specific crap.

i dont remember how many years ago...
but i remember when my mother had to buy a usb card for her windows 95 computer.

I know USB 3.0 PCI-X cards exist, and they're backwards compatible with PCI.

>>58146493
Mpcie gives you pcie 1x, doesn't it?

>>58146619
Yes, so around 150MB/s.

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>>58146560
Once anon said asus media bus, I looked it up and saw the same picture as OPs, but you have admit that it looks a lot like a PCI X slot, the 64-bit version.

>>58146633
Oh. Right.
I had no idea 1x was that slow.

Why did we get rid of pci again?

>>58146560
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Asus_Media_Bus

It was a short lived interface designed for media systems in the 1990's, essentially it allowed for manufactures to produce expansion cards with more than one function like video cards with audio capability. The supposed logic behind this was it reduced the amount of slots you'd have to use for various expansion cards and possibly reduce inter compatibility problems between them.

>>58146647
smaller physical interface connector.

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>>58145770

>>58146646
Oh right, forgot the 5v version exists. Still, if it was a normal pci-x slot it would hopefully be all in one piece.

>>58146647
Because it's smaller and the cards will work in whatever slot they will fit in, so you could stick a 1x card in any slot and a 4x card in a 4x, 8x, or 16x slot. Of course nobody ever uses this part of the design.

Besides RAID controllers, are there any 4x or 8x cards?

>>58146493
>mini PCI-e 1.0 card in my server that gives me two USB3.0 ports
Pics?

>>58146647
Sorry, I remembered wrongly.
1.0 1x was 250MB/s.
3.0 1x is just under 1GB/s.

Basically we got rid of PCI because it was big and couldn't scale up like PCI-e does.

>>58146732
https://www.amazon.co.jp/%E7%8E%84%E4%BA%BA%E5%BF%97%E5%90%91-%E3%82%A4%E3%83%B3%E3%82%BF%E3%83%BC%E3%83%95%E3%82%A7%E3%83%BC%E3%82%B9-MiniPCI-Express-USB3-0-MPCIE/dp/B009KKLRM6/

>>58146718

All objectively superior to USB. Except the VGA of course

>>58146753
I wouldn't really say they're superior to it. More that USB should be used in tandem with them instead of in place of them.

>>58146770

Parallel printers just worked. Serial mice just worked. How I long for those days.

>>58146753
>objectively

>>58146749
http://www.hwtools.net/ has some oddball adapters too.

>>58146770
>used in tandem with them
i agree. the same ports were not meant for all physical connections. id say more but i'm drunk and am too stupid.

>>58146791
Exactly, peripherals could keep using the old ports while new shit like flash drives and HDDs would be better with USB

>>58146722
>4x
4-port 1Gbe ethernet cards
PCI-E SSDs
Thunderbolt expansion cards.
USB-C cards
Very few graphics cards.


>8x
10Gbe SFP+ network cards
40Gbe QSFP+/Infiniband network cards
RAID/JBOD cards
FC HBA cards
Enterprise PCI-E SSD's
PCI-E over external cable
Some workstation graphics cards.

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>>58145770
They do.

>>58145770
expansion slot general when?

>>58146834
uhhhh why though when the bus can't even keep up with the speed

>>58146952
probably never, because if you go on any desktop guts thread you'll notice that no one ever installs anything other than a graphics card.

>>58146962
Because PCI is at max ~9x faster than USB 2.0, so even though it's not fast enough to achieve full USB 3 speeds it's still a hell of a lot faster than USB 2.

>>58146834
I need this.
Where to buy?

>>58147032
It's a startech card that's available on amazon or newegg.

Probably has shitty drivers to go along with it too, but who knows.

>>58147050
Yeah I'm not paying the price of a modern pc just for that

>>58146136
Looks like the bastard child of agp and pci

>>58147050
>Probably has shitty drivers to go along with it too, but who knows.

chances that a generic usb 3.0 driver shipped with any modern OS will work with it.

>>58147192
They make adapters to go from PCI-E 1x to PCI which are cheap. Combine that with a half-height PCI-E 1x USB 3.0 card and you're set.

>>58147338
>modern
>unix-anything OS
are you sure about that?

>58147482

gotta work harder for that (you) pajeet.

>>58146718
I wish I had a serial port :c Now I have to use USB -> serial, or my old thinkpad.

>>58146791
Isn't USB simply a successful attempt at standardizing serial ports? Is there actually something wrong with USB or is it just /g/ being tech hipsters as usual?

>>58147816
>Isn't USB simply a successful attempt at standardizing serial ports?
Yes. USB also made plug and play widespread.

>tfw old enough to remember having to reboot Windows 95 for every new piece of hardware it detected
>tfw full plug and play (generic drivers) did not happen until Windows 2000
Anyone who hasn't gone through the pains of 3+ reboots for a printer/scanner combo in Windows is underage.

>>58147875
>Anyone who hasn't gone through the pains of 3+ reboots for a printer/scanner combo in Windows is underage.
Not really no