What are the easiest and most rewarding IT jobs?

who is that system daemon?

>>58113722
the most rewarding isn't the easiest, assuming you mean financially rewarding

>>58113722
will it get me a broad like that?

>>58113731
She can mount herself on my hard drive, if you know what I mean.

>>58113731
>>58113768

If you give me proper answers, I'll post her chaturbate link.

>>58113722
sys admin hands down.
if nothing breaks, you do nothing all day and get praised. if something does break, you're fixing the problem and considered doing your job.

>>58113722
System Administration - If you like making developers your bitch
Network Administration - Generally rewarding

Sys admin if everything works

>>58113731
>>58113786
Look up olgachocolate. I fucking hate faggots that do this.

Get fucked you piece of shit. Enjoy your years of being looked down upon and being treated like shit from retards.

>>58113768
Money will.

Systems analysis. You go around giving your opinion and kick off new projects

>>58113901
>Get fucked you piece of shit. Enjoy your years of being looked down upon and being treated like shit from retards.
CS is far worse. As a developer you'll have zero job prospects in the next few years because it has all been outsourced. If you're lucky enough to find a job it'll be at less than half the pay you should be making.

Treatment varies from company to company.

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>>58113972
> it has all been outsourced
Assuming that were true, you do know that IT is outsourced even more heavily?
The last company I worked at didn't even have an IT department. They hired an external company to do it for them.

>>58114007
>Assuming that were true
So far two of the major enterprises I've worked for (see >60,000 employees) have outsourced ALL of their development. Don't be stupid, the train is coming whether you like it or not.
IT in enterprise is not being outsourced because it's impossible to manage an entire datacenter from India.

>They hired an external company to do it for them.
They hired a local company to manage that shit. The local company pays the same wage. This is the norm for SMBs but is not really a problem since you can just go work for that company.

>>58113816
this, do it for some fucking offices, easiest shit ever, you can even break stuff then spend all day in the server room and people think you're proper working hard

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>>58113722
Sys Admin.

Youll get the feeling of reward when you go back home to fix your mom's computer and actually have her express some sort of gratitude towards you.

malware analysis
pretty easy to begin with and hella fun, plus I've heard of people making decent money on the side analyzing malware for hackers before they distribute it

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>>58113722
>What are the easiest and most rewarding IT jobs?
QA. There's nothing more rewarding than a frontender's butthurt.

Unless you want to work for a small to medium non tech company as a sysadmin, IT is becoming CS. I work in IT for a large tech company, we've stopped hiring traditional IT people, we now only hire people with strong programming skills. Systems engineers must pass the same programming tests we give to software engineers, but you don't need the same level of programming experience.

The days of point and click sysadmins are numbered, if you can't automate you will be automated.

>>58113722
helpsdesk

>>58114103
Feeling of reward?

Are you feeling up ur mom mate?

>>58115577
Yeah, got a problem with it?

>>58115534
Fuck off. helpdesk is dreadful, though it is easy.

anything not in operations

>>58115534
>Helpdesk
>Rewarding
>executive assistants chewing your ass about calendaring problems
>40% of your calls fixed by rebooting computer
>20% of calls expired/forgot password
>REWARDING

>>58115762
Help desk is a dead end at most companies. You'll be stuck there forever and when you finally get out, good luck getting fair compensation after your "promotion"

>>58115828
internal promotions are a fucking joke. that's why you improve your skills and leave the company. come back 2 years later using your contacts still at that place.

only suckers take internal promotions.

>>58115534
Is entry-level and can be skipped if you do the right shit in school.

Also all this shit about outsourcing is gloom and doom bullshit. Just got look at job reports.

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MIS

>>58115853
The problem is you won't get the skills in a help desk position and companies don't like to pay for help desk tier employees to take vendor training.

Sleeping your way to the top.

>>58113731

Anzujamuu

How do I get IT work in the middle of bumblefuck, USA?

Do I just grab a A+ cert and try to get a jewb at a PC repair place?

>>58117775
Tier 3 working at an MSP here, I have a four year degree but that's just a checkbox. I had years of contracting before I formally learned anything on a credential test. Moving to a sysad position with some special requirements next month.

You're going to need to be within driving distance of a city, preferably a metropolitan area. When I was contracting I was in the Baltimore/Washington corridor (took jobs in both cities), and Chicago (took jobs in Chicago, Central IL, and northwest IN). Negotiate door to door drive time, get paid.

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>>58113816
>>58113844
>>58113867
>>58114103
>>58114300
I'm a software engineer (4 year exp) that just got laid off. How hard would it be to get into sys admin? I'm pretty decent with *nix.

Any links tips etc.

>>58113972
Your last statement nullifies your entire argument.

Teacher

>>58116282
nobody said it would be paid for. you have to want it.

>>58113816
This
I basically spend my days shitposting and rarely, when something breaks or someone wants to set up their mail account, I help them as quick as possible and everybody respects me for it because they really don't know what I'm doing. Having your monitor vertically with htop and some random terminal shit also helps. When someone comes with something stupid you just say "oh sorry I'm compiling right now, maybe tomorrow".

>>58113816
How's the pay?

Which skills do I need to have to become a sys admin?

IT is shit, you always get blamed for it later. You might get a good high when everyone thinks you're fixing the problem but 2-3 days later they'll forget and it'll be hyperstinge and be your fault.

>>58113816
>you do nothing all day and get praised
>get praised
Nope.
You don't get praised when it's all running smoothly

>>58117902
musta been a pretty shitty software engineer XD

>>58113722
IT Manager. You got people to work for you.

>>58113901
>chaturbate com/olgachocolate/
404 not found

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>>58114103

>fix your mom's computer
>not setting up loonix for your mom and never have to worry about fixing it again

>>58114007
How do you manage to get a CS degree and somehow not understand that IT work needs physical presence.
You just got BTFO by >>58114056

>>58115534
Helpdesk here. Not it's not.

I'm gonna saying data entry. I don't live in the US so take my pay rate with a grain of salt.

I went for a job for a 2 month contract at $26 an hour doing it. They hired 3 of us at the time and during our "training" period they made us take a typing test. The other two scored around 40 - 60 WPM and I scored in at 105 WPM.

After the two months they didn't renew the other's contracts, but kept me on in a permanent position and I negotiated to $31 an hour. It was a really comfy job. I reckon only about 3 hours of my day was actual data entry and the rest was mainly filing and doing mail merging for the sales guys.

If you're looking to get into I.T with no previous experience; I would say that data entry would be the best foot in the door and it pays relatively well.

KNEEPADS

I do cloud support. It's great

Sysadmin here.

I'm now really good at bloons tower defense

>>58121026
How's the pay?

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>>58113722

>>58113722
Sharepoint admin

you do basically nothing and get paid $120k

>>58113972
Idk man i'm just a junior in college and I already have a cool internship for next summer and all of the seniors (good seniors) that I know graduating already have jobs.

>>58113972
>As a developer you'll have zero job prospects in the next few years because it has all been outsourced
That's not true unless you work on trivial shit an Indian code monkey could do for less money instead.

>>58121238
He's just trying to scare away people from CS.

You should be doing the same thing.

If CS gets too over saturated our pay will drop.

>>58121263
>If CS gets too over saturated our pay will drop.
The "CS is/will be saturated" is a meme. First of all, CS isn't even the tenth most popular STEM degree. Secondly, the world is changing as we speak and the demand for people with CS knowledge is evergrowing. Sure, the number of JavaScript code monkeys required may be finite, but there are plenty of more jobs for CS majors out there. I've even seen job listings for positions that traditionally required graphic design degrees that now require CS degrees because the level of programming required.

>>58121288
It's like you want to be poor and unable to get a job anywhere you want

>>58121306
Actually, I want more competent westerners to do CS instead of shitty humanities, so I don't have to deal with remote dev teams consisting of poor english speaking Indians. It's a myth that tech companies are only outsourcing in order to use cheap labour, they are outsourcing because privileged white kids stopped studying STEM fields and now waste their time on the humanities because they were told "follow your dreams" throughout their childhood.

>>58121332
But I wanted to be Daniel Jackson. I didn't feel like being Samantha Carter was for me.

>>58121332
>>58121306
This also explains why H1-b visas are so popular among Silicon Valley tech companies. It would be far cheaper to just outsource everything to India or Bangladesh where there is no workers' rights whatsoever and people work for $3 a day, but they are in fact massively importing foreign workers for large amounts of money because John Doe either doesn't bother with a college degree because it's a "waste of time" or he studies something completely useless instead.

>>58121347
There's a reason why Samantha Carter usually saves the day by calculating some wormhole slingshot and ends up being in charge of Atlantis, while Daniel Jackson is just running around and causing all sorts of troubles.

>>58121361
You forget the part(s) where Daniel Jackson saves the day by figuring out ancient tech, by just being able to read the RTFM.

>>58121736
True

>>58121736
*to RTFM

Sorry for the brainfart.

>>58113731
I'd fork her process if you know what I mean

>>58121778
I'd fork her so hard we would have to SIGABRT her zombie child process.

>>58115854
>Also all this shit about outsourcing is gloom and doom bullshit.
I just tell people everything has been outsourced because I want to keep people out my field and my wages high.

I was looking at jobs on craigslist the other day

one opening for an entry level IT/IS position required a 4 year CS degree with a 3.0 GPA

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:^)

>>58121889
this sounds like hell

>>58121889
I bet a womyn wrote that

>>58121889
I bet this job sucks donkey balls

>They salary is shit but you can look at Star wars posters and discuss Jabba the hut's dick all day long

>>58121889
> NAT, DHCP, DNS and IPv6
That's it? This is the only thing they want? Looks boring as hell tbqh desu senpai.

>>58122002
I think it's the opposite, someone like you wrote it

and that's what they mean by "You can make jokes and they will actually get it", you can say stupid bigoted bullshit and not get called on it

>>58113731
I'd fuck her if you know what I mean. (Talking about sexual intercourse)

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>>58122014
the salary isn't too bad... if they actually keep their word.
I've got a hunch they'll give you 33k one way or another.

>>58122018
I'm so desperate that I would apply if only I knew how to actually implement the things. I have the conceptual knowledge but not the real life experience to actually put it to work.

shit sucks tbqhfmlm

>>58122026
maybe I just assume it's sjws because I've never seen IT guys act like what this poster describes

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>>58119788
>>58119845

Then you're doing system administration wrong. Instead of VPN'ing home and surfing /g/ from your basement office you should walk around a few times a day and help the lusers compute better. If they don't see you because everything is working and you're in your cave then of course there's no perceived value.

>>58122035
no, please explain

>>58113722
Owner of 4chan

>>58120333
It's her instagram and Katysheva_Olga for twitter

>>58122058
In my experience, almost all of the IT/Tech people I've ever met are exactly like that. I'm dreading the day I can actually join the workforce

>>58121889
>Servers
what kind of servers ?
More than half the people I know that are certified MS server admins would piss themselves if they had to do command line work on Linux, BSD, or AS400

>>58122060
I've been sysadmin for 4 years now. It's one of the most unrewarding IT jobs in terms of compliments.
I still like doing it, but don't make it sound better than it is.

e.g. I once had an exchange server go down for an hour (due to a bug outside of my power mind you). The only thing you hear users say is that it never works. Yet it has never had downtime in years.

>>58122154
It is true, but even worse. One of the guys I worked with had an extensive my little pony collection at his desk and would not shut up about "the last airbender".

Also most are way overweight and eat terrible food, our big company would have pot lucks and the IT team couldn't cook thier way out of a wet paper bag and I was the only one that would eat a vegetable.

>>58113722
SUCCESSFUL YOUTUBER THAT ASSEMBLES PCS AND PLAYS VIDEOGMES

>>58113768
She is Russian.

By default she is a golder digger.

She doesn't give a shot what you look like if you buy everything for her, have a nice house and open your bank account anytime she wants.

I dated Russians that look like that.

I know and learned the hard way

>>58122383
sure you did tommy

>>58122347
Worst things about being a system admin would probably be MIS management getting sold on some new product that doesn't work with some of your legacy stuff. Any big company will have legacy stuff that will be a headache to update/replace.

>>58122405
i did.

maybe if you left /g/ youd find one too.

not hard if you are above a 5 and make money

>>58122383
>By default she is a golder digger.
>She doesn't give a shot what you look like if you buy everything for her, have a nice house and open your bank account anytime she wants.

No shit sherlock

Russians are niggers but only with wrong skin color.

>>58122410
Sure tommy, post pics then

>>58122419
> with wrong skin color
> wrong
Y tho

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>>58119852
Five person company and we lost a huge client. Downsizing.

>>58121347
Underrated post.

>>58122426
When you see a nigger, you automatically despise it and find it revolting, like nature intended. It's a sort of natural warning sign to keep away. You know it's not up to anything good.

Russians (and slavs in general) can be mistaken for being white. They are like jewish shape shifters, trying to blend in so they can infiltrate and ruin society from within.

>>58122421
im not posting pics of my ex you virgin faggot.

i dont think i'll ever date a russian again. every one of them i met is this way

the men are cool and are bros. they even acknowledge how much of gold digger russian women are.

dont ever date one

>>58122451
hhahahahaha sure tommy

>>58122451
> the men are cool and are bros.
> dont ever date one
You just said they're cool and good to go.

>>58113731
I'll mount my dick in her /pussy

>>58122458
i dont date men, i date women.

stay away from russian women unless you respect your bank account

>>58122455
i was wrong. not even a gold digging russian girl would date a beta faggot like you. they do have some standards. they have to be seen out with you.

>>58122469
sure tommy, don't stop projecting lmao

>>58122052
Bruh, you can pick up all the "skills" they're looking for by just grabbing a WRT54G or some shit and dicking around with it.

>>58113722
>not CS
CS jobs are usually a lot easier than IT, since they involve much less contact with other people. You can literally become a self-supporting shut in doing something like web development from home. It's also a lot more rewarding, since you're actually building something rather than maintaining something that someone else built.

>>58122528
>Working from home

end this meme

>>58122582
It's not a meme, I've been doing it for years. Why aren't you?

>>58122582
>work from home
>start my christmas vacation a week early
>enjoy mom's home cooking

I really don't see the problem

>>58122617
Not him, but I can't do it because I would end up being unproductive as fuck. I need an office so I can be at home with my "home mindset" and relax, and be at work with my "work mindset" and focus on work.

>>58122582
Not a meme. Have been doing it for 6 months. Unless you love commuting, microwave food or irregular eating patterns, idiotic colleagues and a fuckton of other things nobody remotely sane does, it's immeasurably better.

>>58122617
Yeah sure

>>58122469
> i dont date men, i date women.
Come on, don't be so serious.
> not having backdoor buddies
> 2016

I got a degree in Industrial Engineering from a top 15 school and I am an "implementation analyst" at a software startup. Essentially, I implement our product to all of our customers.

It's pretty sweet... Pay is great and I got equity in the company. You have to be *decent* with cloud computing, but it's mostly about problem-solving setup requirements and interfacing with end users (not all of which are retards, fortunately).

I feel like some kind of millennial Chad 2.0 though. My programming skills basically do not exist.

>>58113722
PC REPAIR LOL

>>58113781

Mount your brain?

>>58114300

That's why I decided to major in Accounting instead of CIS.

>>58121889
I watched Inception but I thought it was boring.

I know what NAT (Network Address Translation), Dynamic Host Configuration Protocol, DNS Dynamic Name Service, Internet Protocol version Six is.

Looks easy.

>>58114300
haha made me legit kek

>>58122652
>>58122617

Samefag. Nobody's falling for your shit

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>>58123017

Hey guys i just missed on a free cpmptia a+ certification. I won 2 vouchers for 801-220 and 802-220 something like 2 years ago from NetRiders. I tried to schedule the exam 2 weeks ago but there were no more places available this month and the vouchers expire in 26 December. Did I miss on anything? I do plan to get a job in the second year of college in this domain. Did I miss on anything?

>>58123091
just took a comptia test recently. I had to check different locations to get the time/date I wanted. I would check other locations you can make it to. Usually there are a ton of places that offer these test.

It would be worth it, my test was $300 - so check all locations you can make it to.

>>58123091
Try using the vouchers for an exam at a later date.
Chances are that vouchers need to be redeemed by the 26th. It doesn't matter when the date of the actual exam is

>>58123149
this is a good idea, I had to pay when I scheduled the exam, so it may just take your voucher for a later exam date.

>>58117902
Learn a configuration management stack like Puppet, Salt, etc. You can leverage your programming skills to automate sysadmin tasks.

>>58123127
Yeah there are 2 more places in my country I could go to. I'll try it but I don't know if I can prepare for it in just 4 days.
>>58123149
I could try this but on their website it says that the exams must happen before the vouchers expiration date.

>>58123342
Oh crap I just looked in my email and the vouchers expire only on 31 December

>>58123362
Yeah I checked all location and the only available one is tomorrow but it's on the other side of the country. I could take the train tonight but I would arrive only 24 hours later at the end of the day because of my shitty country train infrastructure (Romania). I tried the bus but I would get there at 2 pm+ and the last appointment hour is 1:45 pm. Fuck why I didn't check the other locations before. I'm gonna try to make an appointment in January after the expiration date of the vouchers.

when i was working for [well liked fast-food chain] they offered Programming job for within the company, not really experience needed just apply and throw whatever type of technology experience you've had.
I applied and got an interview but didn't get it because my major wasn't related to IT or programming at all. They seemed to want somebody permanent and I would've only done it a couple years anyway.
I always seem sysadmin and always seems we advertised here, seems cozy.

>>58122821
You are what we call an abomination.

>>58123462
Nope can't do that. It's lost. I don't plan a career in IT (currently studying electrical engineering) but it would have been great to have a plan B. Was this exam a must have? I asked my teachers about comptia if they can help me with some preparation but they've never heard of it. Would have I been able to easily get a job as a student in computer repair or smth? I have some MTA certifications on the side, various competitions I participated in highschool and IT essentialls from Cisco.

what's a good IT job without a degree?

I'm asking for a friend

>>58123601
any IT job you can get if you don't have a degree, certifications or experience.

>>58115862

MIS is honestly the way to go - Recent grad with major in MIS and minors in IT and CS. Working as a solutions architect / product/program manager for a big data company. I answer directly to the CEO/CTO and make a good salary right out of school. Basically I make developer and IT teams my bitch for a few weeks on a project.

>feels good m8

>>58114007
this is why SaaS, PaaS, and IaaS are real.

Amazon have warehouses of servers that companies can rent for free

Less and less companies are using local servers which are more costly and less secure

>>58123601
A good job is one you create yourself. You're not fully taking advantage of capitalism if you're employed by somebody else.

>>58123703
so basically you hear about buzzword 2.0 and make the people that do the work implement it.

>>58123723
amazon is hardly free or cheap.

it does make sense for some companies to not host their own servers, but for many it would be much cheaper to host your own.

I doubt the cloud is more secure. I think you have a bigger chance of screwing that up than a local network. Especially if you have multiple servers/services that talk to one another.

>>58123774
having your own local server is only better if you know exactly what you're doing but most companies don't

>>58123740
Somewhat - however I'm a little more technical then that. With my background in IT and CS I can work directly with the teams and navigate their work and explain anything that needs to be changed directly. Or if they need something I can take what they need technically and explain to management what and why they need it - and make it look attractive to them.

I'm almost like a technical to business translator. and vice versa

>>58122347
>>58122409
Yet another fundamental flaw with IT: people use it as an excuse to not do work. for example the reason why they said the e-mail never worked is because they don't want to do anything

>gets delivered to their inbox in a microsecond
>"ummm I didn't get it!!!!?"
>"wow fuck computers they make everything harder this is probably our IT guy's fault"
IT is shit

>>58123865
I don't think you work in IT. If something works, you almost have to be retarded to change it.

The benefits of change would have to be very great to change something that just works.

Upgrades go wrong, shit is more complicated than people thought, you find out later something isn't compatible, ...etc

I literally worked somewhere where a switch to office 365 destroyed a portion of the exec's calendars & even MS couldn't get it fixed. Literally all IT management involved got fired eventually for that. Never mind that they were told they could easily migrate 20+ GB size email accounts. kek

>>58119647
how do you get this job? Im doing CS/CE right now

>>58114300
>if you can't automate you will be automated
anon is throwing mad bars,on some philosophical level shit

>>58123961
Holy shit, anon... Are you me??

>>58123961
>20+ GB size email accounts
>not forcing your users to store everything past 6 months offline in a .pst
Shiggy

>>58124732
this...

>>58124732
I agree, they should have archived all that down to a maximum of 2 GB size email accounts before the conversion/import but that wasn't my project and I didn't find out until later.

Have you ever had the pleasure of talking to executive assistants about there calendars ? Just.......

>>58113722

Relationship Manager

>>58124804
>IT

>>58124779
Those feels...

Having to talk to morons who make 5x what you make...

>>58124804
You mean HR? How the fuck is that IT related?

>>58124732
>forcing
>your
>users
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA

HAHAHAHAHAHHAAAA

Good one Anon, good luck with that when upper management comes down on you like a mountain of bricks because they can't store every mail from the dawn of time.

>>58114300
>The days of point and click sysadmins are numbered, if you can't automate you will be automated.
See people harp on and on about automation, but nobody ever explains why the fuck is supposed to be automated.
>hurr durr automate all the things!
Like what? specifically automate what?

>>58125795
onboarding people, account creation, permissions changes, disabling of users, etc....

basically taking the sysadmin out and making buttons that HR or management can push

>>58125893
Staff onboarding is something that definitely can be automated, but you're expecting HR to configure permissions?

>>58125760
>not pretending to give management freedom while they actually are your bitch
Nigga you're doing something wrong. Come with some bullshit explanation and tell they need to store mail offline or give funds to upgrade. Win/win

System Coordinator, basically 20% IT work 80% Project Management.

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tfw born too early to where robots have all the jobs and we humans can sleep, browse the web, and watch television until we die.

>>58113722
Jizz mopper

>>58126394
>Come with some bullshit explanation
Doesn't work when management literally will not listen to logic or reason
>Tell they need to store mail offline or give funds to upgrade
Also doesn't work when business is run by enormous cheapskates

Enforcing a retention policy of purging deleted items and sent items periodically went down fucking swell, oh the tears.

>>58113901
Cool guy

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>ctrl+f NOC
>no results

>>58113901
this is what justice looks like.
Thank you based anon.

>>58114103

PS3 is kill?

>>58122347
Really? I had a user at a client update some client software on a whim which required me to update the entire database schema and I had a box of chocolate on my desk before the scripts finished. Mind you this is a candy factory so boxes of chocolate aren't hard to come by but damn. Also today I had someone offer me tickets to an NBA game because I elected not to change a DNS record 3 days before Christmas after buying me lunch last Friday because I handled an emergency problem like it was an emergency... and before they called I was just sitting around reading news.

Granted, I do have clients that think that when -they- delete the credentials I've attached to their local windows accounts (because fuck a domain, amirite) it's because --I-- want to come out and see their frowning grumpy faces and bill them another 2 hours for something they should have just called me for and I could have remoted in and seen how they were wrong saving them a not insignificant sum of money.

If you solve the problems that users think they're having because you speak to them, they will love you.

>>58115862
this pic is pure executive corporate masturbation bullshit fucking hell

>>58121889
>pro grade server cluster
>DHCP

>>58123728
>>58123728
this is also true if you have a degree, experience and certs. You are basically employed to make someone else money. Why not cut out the middleman if possible.

>>58113972
still needs white dudes to design the systems.

>>58117902
>I'm pretty decent with *nix.
you're done, now go find a job.

>>58125147
"The IT Crowd"
Google it.

>>58122481
>tommy, tommy, tommy tommy, tommy

yeah he's the one projecting LUL

>>58130225
I do exactly this job. With the same amount of freedom. I fucking hate my life.

>>58130448
little upset there, tommy?

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>>58130098
Just applies to about 35 positions... hopefully I hear back.

>>58115809
you forgot the other 40 percent being having to walk someone who's too dumb to google through solving issues over the phone :|

>>58117902
youre dumber than a bag of dicks if you think you want to into sysadmin/devops - being on call and having to fix all the shit that you guys fuck up by writing shit code and having shit QA practices blows

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>>58131911
I was the system administrator and IT on top of the software engineer role for my last job (5 person company). Don't worry, I understand.

>>58113722
>What are the easiest and most rewarding IT jobs?

Keeping machines running for people who actually generate revenue.

I had a friend who worked for Honeywell at a big-ass plant in Arizona awhile back. Literally everyone on his team was borderline retarded. Like, I can't believe these people were actually employed. My friend wasn't very bright, but he was way the fuck more competent than anyone else on the team.

He would get a complaint of, say, a slow computer, go around, collect the computer, pull out every sellable item he could, swap in new replacements (often time lower performing), take the old ones home, and sell them on ebay. Usually the actual problem with the computer was something completely trivial.

He cleared something like an extra $30k in one year doing this.

For around a year, he would come in around 10am, immediately head out to morning coffee, come back around 11:30, do maybe 30 minutes of work, go out to lunch for two hours, then work about an hour before heading home to work on the pool he was building.

Eventually, he got called into an office. Management had a six inch stack of printouts of his card in-out times, and of his Internet usage. He'd been spending most of his "work" time day trading. Did they fire him? Nope. They fully admitted that they wanted to, but he was the only guy on the team that could manage their servers properly, so he was on "probation". They still never figured out that he'd been stealing the entire time.

>>58120400
>>58114056
Because IT literally doesn't need a physical presence.
You might need a guy to run around and physically move cables, but the rest of it's done remotely.

If you don't understand that you've never worked a day of IT in your life.

>>58132080
>Because IT literally doesn't need a physical presence.

Uh. What?

Did you mean Operations? IT collects problem computers from workers' desks, performs physical repairs, distributes new hardware, deploys network hardware, and all sorts of other hand-on stuff.

>>58132109

I forgot the most important hands-on part of the job: getting uncomfortably close to Janet's fat tits. Yeah, Janet in Accounting. You seen dem titties? Big ol' bags of sand, right there.

easy jobs = low pay

just sayin

>>58113722
Sysadmin

>>58132117

>Not using Janet's fat tits as handles while you make sweet love to her from behind during your lunch breaks.

Sounds like you've never actually had a job in IT before, bud.

>>58133394
>>58113816
>>58114103

What are your qualifications? How much do you get paid? Can I see your CV?

>>58113722
Someone post the pic of how men and women share pictures of the stuff they have.

>>58133378
You gotta find the sweet spot between easiness and pay

>>58113731
>falling for that trap

>>58114300
This.
Enjoy learning another trade in 3 years

>>58129148
>butthurt IT cucks

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>>58113722
I'm a sysadmin in a data center

Shit is cake, yo. All the benefits previously mentioned in this thread, such as barely working, and on top of that I only deal with other IT people. Sure, some of them might be dumber, but when I'm right they fucking know it. Same thing with the management up to the owners; they all did this shit from the grunt work up too.

This month I've been cranking out gunpla kits like it's my actual job.

Network engineer reporting in. It's fun detective work most of the time, but you do need a solid knowledge of TCP/IP and, well, common sense. I see it a lot like lego. Pay is good, nothing to do when nothing breaks

>All these fake sysadmins

Don't listen to them, OP. Being a system admin is not easy at all.

>>58134349
>He doesn't paint his kits

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>>58133675
This one?

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>>58135749
also this one

>>58113722
>Being in IT
Hahah fucking pleb I'm rolling in dev money

>>58137076
b-but im not as smart as you ;_;

>>58125795
For my team we manage the infrastructure for thousands of virtual machines that run internal company services. Everything from financial oracle databases to open source security platforms. We've made vm provisioning a matter of people filling out a form, your new sever is delivered automatically in minutes. Server configuration is managed completely by code using Puppet. Server owners check in their config code through git which is then delivered to the servers automatically.

Aside from server management, we try to identify manually driven processes that we can automate away. Automation reduces error, reduces workload, and frees people from repetitive tasks so they can focus on more important things.

>>58137487

Are accountants still good?

>>58135749
>>58135904
Thanks familia.

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>>58135904
>>58135749

>>58138058

Female detected.

>>58122914
He probably meant his 3.5 inches floppy drive

>>58119845
Work for an MSP and yeah, everythings our fault no matter what and no praise when it works as it should. Who gives a fuck? I get paid to do my job, thats all that matters. I could care less if the client is sour grapes over something out of our control. Their ISP has issues, or hardware they refuse to replace ahead of time fails etc

>>58114007
>dungeon meshi
my nigga

>>58137973
I don't know shit about what modern accountants do, I mean how many do you really need with all of this software?

>>58113731
malloc(MyDick)

>>58137487
See that I can understand that but it seems like super huge enterprise kinda stuff.

I've only small business experience with on-premise servers and VMs, CRMs, VOIP systems, some Networking. So when I hear about automation I get that you can deploy wicked VMs at the drop of a hat, but I can't see how they'd be used?

>>58131911
You could always just kill yourself instead of complaining on an imageboard.

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>>58132080

>>58122821
Would getting AWS certifications get me a job like that? Sounds fun

>>58123774
Cloud is more secure for one simple reason.

Externalized risk. Amazon picks up the tab for ensuring PCI, HIPPA etc. Its amazon's fault when things go wrong and the board gets to shrug.

Unless you are a large company you are probably not doing proper patching (as in testing before production), vulnerability management, paying for audits and pentests and other bullshit that will be "required". Hell, How big do you have to be to actually have a SOC where you have to pay people to watch logs across your infrastructure 24/7. The whole fucking security business doesn't scale well to small businesses.

also
>>58132080

I don't understand how some of you fuckers do nothing all day and your company hasn't replaced you with an external group. Its like your living in IT from 20 years ago.

>>58141382
secure might be the wrong word if you use it in the normie sense.

"meeting acceptable levels of risk"

>>58119759

not him, but where I work each of our system admins make about $60k.

>>58113972
>2016
>believing that outsourced lowest bidders will outperform university graduate software engineers
>ISHYGDDT

>Network Consultant
>Get paid to tell the retards ITT how to un-fuck their 1990-tier networks

Feels okay

>>58134457
i assume you spend a lot of time in the wireshark then

Network Engineer here.
I mostly work with firewalls and WANs links though.
Ezpz stuff and pay is good.

>>58139389

malloc(0)

returns a garbage pointer, anon.

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>>58122444
You have to go back to pol

be me, working for state government for 10+ years. Pay is decent and thanks to layers and layers of rules and whatnot, after you pass probation period you can't be fired for any reason unless one of these things happen. 1. You score low on evaluations (Trust me you gotta really work on this to score low) 2. You cheat on time you actually work or 3 the government goes bankrupt/goes into shutdown (extremely rare). Plus benefits. Problem. I want to land IT job within my building. However pretty much 75% of all IT jobs are contractor held. so for an IT job I gotta pretty much throw 10+ yrs of time/benefits/job protection out the window and leave state gov service and enter the private sector.

I fix maintain/fix hardware at the head office for an amusement company. Everyone is super cool, and the guy who does hardware is my bud.

bumperino

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>>58121288
>The "CS is/will be saturated" is a meme

:^(

>be me
>go to college and get some basic IT certs
>801/802, MCP, SEC+, Basic CCNA, and there was a few other but that was long ago
>no one would hire me since no experience and I thought what the fuck
>joined the navy as an IT
>realized that you aren't an IT without on the job experience

Drunk so i'll rant about being a Navy IT

So as a Navy IT you are either Radio, ADP, SSES, or IA(information assurance) if you are a Radio IT you set up communications on the ship. You are pretty much the ISP for the ADP/SSES ITs on the ship.(ADP manages the unclass/secret networks and SSES does the top secret network). Then IA(information assurance) audits the ADP ITs and SSES ITs to make sure they aren't abusing admin privileges and they also run extensive scans on the networks.

Initially I was an ADP IT and that's the hardest one since you are running two networks(unclass and secret) which consists of 1800 endpoints, 4 backbone switches, 18 switches, and about 40 servers that are managed through VMWARE.

I went from helpdesk to managing a few systems to becoming the guy who just knows everything and the newer guys come to me for more advanced issues.

So I technically run the helpdesk, keep the essential servers running, and troubleshoot small issues for days at a time since we have a new network and not even the makers of the network know what's wrong with it 99% of the time.

So overall I recommend system administrator.

>>58122018
Thats easy as fuck and im barely into semester 2 in my Cisco courses.

Looks like a smooth ride for me senpai...

>>58121288
The parts of CS most people who visit places like this, ycombinator, and even reddit are oversaturated.

You know, writing lisp/C/haskell/C++ for interesting projects instead of "yet another"s and "paid shitware 3.0 2016 gold edition"s. For all those guys who walked into uni hoping to write back-end financial and scientific shit in scala and use linux on the job are looking at an oversaturated job market full of codgers with more experience than them and at least 10 years left until retirement, and people applying to work at google which you won't do because you have a conscience.

Or there's always bioinformatics

>>58147052
best way for a rookie working help desk at a small org (thanks nepotism) to make way forward? What certs are best? Already have a useless arts degree lol

>>58113722
3DPD

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Bumpo

how can i become a system admin ??????

>>58113722
>rewarding
>IT job
choose one

>>58113722
those jobs have gone over seas because indian monkeys can do those jobs.

>>58121889
>/g/-autist writing a job ad

>>58122451
So what happens if you pick a more ugly model say a 7/10 or less

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Imaging cumming in this girl's month... I think I could die in piece after that..

Bringing coffe to the admin....

>>58151032
what

>>58150304
Maybe you could berry your dick in her too

>>58120433
>26$ an hour for data entry.
What in the fuck. Where do you live where it pays that well because data entry is a job that pays no better than Mcdonalds.

>>58122444
Wrong thread josh.

>>58151586
Exactly this, data entry is a "Still breathing with a pulse" tier minimum wage job which will suck the life from your bones.

>>58113722
Source on girl please

>>58122139
So are there nudes or

im studying CS
What comfy job should I aim for when I finish
by comfy I mean decent pay and something not challenging/hard

>>58155509
full stack web dev
learn the meme frameworks and rake in the $$

>>58140319
I struggle to understand this too. I'm in uni learning networks and I've just completed some VM/cloud courses. It feels like only massive companies are ones who need this VMs-automated-to-the-tits stuff. WHAT THE FUCK DO THEY ACTUALLY USE THE VMS FOR?!

>>58126756
implying robots wouldnt take over and keep only a few humans as pets. also implying this couldnt be done right now (it can) but wont for a few hundred years (or ever) because then the people in power would lose all power if you have everything you need

>>58155509
>>58156130

Also work on side projects constantly. It is easy as a full stack web developer.

I make a side income and hope to strike gold one day.

what should i major in college, im not sure if i should do engineering, CS, or MIS.

>>58159155
Photography

>>58121844
>they actually care about your gpa and not any projects or anything relevant that you have worked on
try again friendo

>>58122383
>She doesn't give a shot what you look like if you buy everything for her, have a nice house and open your bank account anytime she wants.

sounds like a fair deal to me

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Phone-sex Telemarketer

What if I live in Las Palmas? How do I get in IT?

>>58161564
Rip in peace

>>58155509
cs is a meme

when will this thread die. please.

>>58145033
no, it returns a valid pointer

im tired of seeing this russian slut on /g/

>>58163857
?
if so then I already fell for it and u didnt answer my question so ur response is also a meme

>>58164019
No pls

>>58164080
That's a good thread though

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>>58113722
make a shity video share page sell it to cnn or M€icrosoft