Core i7-7700K and Core i5-7600K Review Published Before NDA

>>58106821
ฺB-B-But it's currytech.

>Pentium G4600
>2/4
If they can be OC'd like the skylakes can be, that will be the new price/performance king.

I'm pretty sure everyone who knows about skylake non-K OC is wondering this question

Now its upto motherboard vendors to implement/bypass the intel restriction. ASRock, make it happen.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zqihmsDj9Uo
unlocked i3-7350k review

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jewed

>>58106869
tl;dr even the OC'd dualcore-hyperthread is showing its age and can't keep up in modern games compared to even the older stock sandy bridge i5. However its still better than AMD FX 8370 series by far.

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>draw more power than the 6700k

>>58106902
Yep. Getting a locked i5 7400 is a much better investment. The only thing unlocked i3 would be better for is if you want to build a dolphin/emulation machine and absolutely want best single core performance but you don't want to pay for unlocked i5.

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>>58106899
digits confirm intel housefires

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>>58106821
krappy fake $hilltel gore iSemen end of life (cooler not included in a box) edition

>>58106899
Jesus Christ, Intel is trying hard to be the new housefire meme. How does it even reach such high temps, isn't it supposed to have a lowish TDP? Even with that big OC, it's too fucking high of a temperature.

>>58106952
>get skylake i5 6400 for $150
>OC it to 4.5 Ghz
It gets same performance as 6600K OC'd to 4.5Ghz

>>58106860
Sorry to break it to you, but there's Zen.

>>58106988
Ofcourse, but its just a speculation.

If there's 4c Zen @ sub $80 and performs near i5 range, it will be a beast.

>>58106821
>6 core CPU beats a 4 core CPU

Nothing to see here. Did you seriously expect 50% gains across 2 years? This isn't the 90s anymore.

suck my 5820

>>58107016
7700K
vs
6700K

OP's laughing at that.

>>58106921
>6700k
>139w
>7700k
>165w
>almost the same performance

J U S T. ITS A FUCKING 6700K OC WITH A NEW IGPU CONFIRMED

>>58106821
>Intel had already stated that Kaby Lake would be nothing more than an optimized product of the generation that came before it

>>58107003
They are not selling current fx 83** below $100. 4c/8t Zen is rumored to be around $150 by chink 3rd parties

The 7700k is just shit because of the IHS. If you could OC it to 5.1ghz out of the box like you apparently can with the 7600k it would be great.
That said, a 7600k at 5.1ghz would be a huge upgrade from a 2500k.

>>58107016
look the stock 6700k stupid nigger

Maybe next line we'll have a proper 4790k successor.

>>58106979
bad thermal compound, apparently. people have reduced the temps by as much as 25C by delidding.

>>58107056

So zen has a real shot here, huh? Literally 6700 = 7700 ? Wtf intel

>>58107076
Intel's waiting for their 8000 series to unreal a real punch, or they'll just suck their own dicks and cum money due to their already inflated reputation.

>>58107121
Coffee Lake is still 14nm, don't be surprised if it Skylake v3 but with 6 cores

>>58107121
>inflated
It's not exactly hard for them considering the AMD blunder after blunder.

We really need a third option that's not ARM.

>>58107056
You'd think they wouldn't cheap out on shit like thermal compound on a $350 CPU, but I guess Intel's inner jew knows no bounds.

Dear anons, think about it, give more thoughts about it.

Intel has huge assets compared to AMD.

If Intel tech management thought AMD Ryzen would be really threatening, they could have released something better.

But they didn't...

Tbh I don't see Ryzen beating Caby Lake performance / price wise.

AMD won't sell the Ryzen CPUs cheaper than Intel does.

>>58107036
>optimized

>>58107342
who even cares if its all for gaming and nobody makes good games anymore and traditionally the best games have the worst graphics?

>>58107342
even if AMD had better performance, Intel would sell more CPUs anyway

They just dont give a fuck

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mfw We are about to enter the age of AMD

>>58106860
Ive never understood this logic. Why get an expensive motherboard and a cheap cpu. I use the g3258 because it was overclockable but didnt need an expensive mobo.

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>>58106821

>>58107459
bought a $30 msi for my g3258.
oc up to 4.3GHz but still stutter in MGSV.
should have bought an athlon 760k instead.

>>58107342
>If Intel tech management thought AMD Ryzen would be really threatening, they could have released something better.

herp derp. the ONLY reason they're releasing anything at all is because of ryzen. they hoped they'd have cannonlake but they're at least a year off being able to ramp 10nm production to a level that they deem marketable, but they still wanted to pretend they have something new to compete with. thats why they released an entire """""generation""""", (actually two if you count coffee lake) of chips that are basically overclocked skylake. only dumbfucks are impressed by kaby lake and coffee lake and only dumbfucks believe this was a move of complacency rather than sheer desperation. intel are terrified of losing their x86 market share right now.

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>>58107838
>only dumbfucks believe this was a move of complacency rather than sheer desperation. intel are terrified of losing their x86 market share right now.

Wow guys, I guess we got an expert here with insider information.

>>58107916
>you're pretending to have insider information because you're talking about what's common knowledge

what a fucking retard lmao. i bet you /v/ermin tourists will be first in line on launch day for your 7350k's

>>58107974
Nah, I am not buying a dual core cpu.

>>58107916
in all seriousness it will be bad for intel, they are too big to lose even 5% of revenue - heads will roll

I just got a 6600. Do I do good /g/?

>7600K is functionally better than 7700K

kek

Ryzen is gonna make a killing

>>58107444
Trips don't lie

Are they even trying anymore?

>>58106821
> only 8MB cache
> in the year 2017

Don't do this guys.

>>58109214
>not even having L3$
back into your primitive mud huts, AMDrones

What the fuck do you faggots do that utilizes these FPUs?

>>58109407
Render 3D sissy white fuccbois getting their assholes reamed by big black veiny dicks

>>58109445
So.... you'll play honeyselect at 4K?

>>58107037
current fx 83xxx are considered high end (from amds perspective) and it's the end of their lifetime. that's why they're so cheap.

expect their 4c8t cpus to be priced at <=200$

>just bought a kaby lake lappy

uh oh... send help bros Imma kys myself if this is ture

>>58106965
FGT thats my meme you stole from reddit

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>people buying kabylake for whatever fucking reason

Pics related, i5-6400 @ 4.44 Gigahertz

>>58106821

>Post Zen being the disappointment it is
>BUT CURRYTECH MUH AMD

>Post Intel CPU losing to much more powerful 6+ cores
>Ah yes, currytech, the epitome of true news!

>>58111839
>6400

literally cucked yourself with single-core performance worse than the skylake i3

>>58112063
this

>>58112221
Reread the post.

Also >>58112634

Post your scores and we'll see

>>58108857
If AMD use Zen to get 10% of the server market, their R&D budget just skyrocketed. If AMD manage 25% of the server market it places Intel in a very tight space.

I can already hear retards yelling about Intel being worth so much more, they wouldn't be in a tight space, ect. Yes they would, they still own all of their fabs, and those are expensive as fuck. More over, their staffing is bloated because they have the extra income from market dominance. Should AMD take a moderate chunk of the enterprise and server markets Intel is going to be reeling. And since the EU and FTC are both keeping an eye on Intel this time around they probably wouldn't get away with shady deals again, many of the OEM's got in trouble for that shit too, so they likely won't be lining up to take the cash this time.

I don't care, I'm finally going to get Netflix 4K when I order my iMac with an i7 7700s. Kaby Lake!

>>58106821

Damn Ryzen is going to blow this shit out of the water

kinda want to pick up a 7350k for emulation. the entire kaby lake release is useless outside of that

I hope the price for the i5 6600k falls a bit with the new Kabylake cpus.

I doubt that the first generation Zen cpus of AMD can beat the 6600k.

>>58113383
>Implying Intel hasn't been stockpiling tech for two decades because AMD can't compete.

There is a reason Intel is always better.

>>58106821
I'm not sure what I'm supposed to be seeing in that graph

Somebody please explain to me like I'm a retard how this is in any way unexpected. Kaby Lake is literally the same architecture and process as Sky Lake

>>58113837
Aside from the odd $20 off sale it won't change much until it's out of stock. They never do.

>>58113878
Honestly I think releasing the Kaby Lake code name publicly just hurts intel from a marketing standpoint among tech enthusiasts. Everyone that's paying attention knows this is just a rebrand. They'd have been better off just calling it Skylake 2 or Skylake Enhanced or something. Instead of the focus being on "wow, Kaby Lake is the same as Skylake and this is bullshit" the tech press would say "Skylake 2 brings minor enhancements to an architecture that we already knew was strong." Boring, but see how the narrative changes?

Kaby Lake was a mistake.

>>58111839
too much of a pain in the ass to deal with non K overclocking

>>58115311
This.

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>he didnt buy amd stock last year at $2.00

>>58113383
Taking 15% of 2017's enterprise sales would be pretty big for AMD.
The total server market is around $50b~ per year. This includes non processor items, but of the processors sold X86 constitutes 80% of the market.
AMD pulling even an additional $3b per year would be a tremendous turn around for them. All long term debt gone, massive reinvestments in R&D, improved credit rating leading to stronger outlook as a whole. They'd be sitting very well coupled with GloFo's miracle acquisition of IBM's foundry business and unbridled access to all their IP.

anyone did the math?
(I didn't even open the jpegs)

sub 1% ipc increase?

>>58115942

This is the "optimization" stage of Intel. Which means new igpu. Nothing else.

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>>58113841
>stockpiling tech

Still takes time to implement the tech.

>>58106821
Holy fuck the Pentium though

skylake shitters on SUICIDE WATCH
no but really it's always fun when the next generation of intel cpus come out, the previous gen owners get epeen shrinkage and lash out.

>>58112063
Did you mean: We Copy Content Forever Tech?

if I build a computer in the next three months should I spring for one of those thousand dollar i7-____X processors? Or is it kind of not even worth it

>>58117543
I'm doing 3d modeling, machine learning, and some video games

>>58106952
Is the i3 6100 CPU a decent CPU or what's a better CPU for the same price?

>>58115572
Did glofo get IBM's mainframe IP too?

>>58117543
>>58117554
The 6950x is overpriced unless you need the best of the best. Unless you absolutely require that kind of performance immediately then I would wait for Zen's release to knock prices down then pick up a 6800k for a good 6C/12T CPU.

>>58117633
It's decent because it has a high clock speed which will always be relevant in everyday tasks but it's going to continue to get marginalized in demanding workloads as true quad cores become more mainstream.

>>58117685
Thank you for the advice, that's probably what I will do.

>>58106985
What motherboard do you use? Did you have to disable updates and revert the bios version?

>>58117685
I'm basically gonna use it mostly for gaming. I'll probably add a rx 460 since I wanna play kerbal space program and some older games.

Ill upgrade to the zen and rx 480 for games like Arma 3.

>>58117669
Process IP, assets, engineering staff, and they took on the obligations of standing production contracts in addition to being IBM's dedicated fab for their own POWER chips.

>>58117987
That's surprising. I spoke to a mainframe engineer a few years ago and got the impression that a lot of consumer cpu features were rehashed mainframe stuff.

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nice performance gains.

>>58113383
>r&d
all the hardwork is done.
all they will do now is let pajeet tweak zen for the next 10 years.

>>58118267
Only US teams have worked on Zen and Zen+ so far.

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>>58106821
>>58106899
>>58106921

>>58106899
>>58106921


Intel is finished

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>tfw i7 2600k and still rocking

>>58120079
same boat anon. its been running basically 24/7 at 4.8ghz since august 2011 without issue. every new generation I convince myself not to upgrade.

>mfw this is the third time intel releases a new lineup with only 0.5-3% increase
meanwhile zen is around the corner ready to provide supercomputing for average customers

I seriously hope you didnt invest in intel stock

>>58120079
Still using 2500K which is fine for most things.

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>>58120247
>meanwhile zen is around the corner ready to provide supercomputing for average customers
if anybody you meet ever says anything about amd that includes "just around the corner" you can just ignore them for the rest of your life with no qualms.

>>58117760
ASRock Z170A-X1/3.1
Bios 1.50 from official Asrock site
Windows 10 ver 1511 build 10586.63
Delete \System32\mcupdate_GenuineIntel.dll
Disable auto update
Use DoNotSpy10(for disabling botnet)

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>>58120280
>DoNotSpy10(for disabling botnet)
whatever helps you sleep at night I suppose. but don't kid yourself.

>>58120296
And removes bloats

:^)

>>58106921
This is interesting. Early reports was that the Kaby Lake chips would have no notable increase in IPC, but rather reach higher clocks at a lower power draw.

If it draws more power to reach those higher clocks then KL is no more than a die shrink and that alone.

8 core should be mainstream by now. Too bad Intel is choking the consumers. I'm looking at you AMD.

>>58120330
It isn't a die shrink, its the same 14nm process. Intel's PR branch claimed they had a 14%~ improvement in process parametrics, but they clearly never materialized. Though to be honest intel's PR branch never released any specific details, and they've begun taking an approach to utterly shutting out tech media.

Kaby has some hardware bug fixes, tweaked IGP, and updated video decoders. Thats all it really offers. It comes with wither stock clocks, but at the expense of increased power draw since its the same process as Skylake.

The next desktop platform from intel, Coffee Lake, will still be the same 14nm process.

This settles it for me. If there's no local sale for a Skylake CPU i'll go with Zen next year.

>>58120363
>not even a die shrink

Thanks for the correction anon. I have no idea what Intel actually did with this one then.

Maybe it overclocks like a dream...

>>58120079
>>58120262
>tfw my old motherboard AND gpu burned out and getting a used 1155 atx was going to cost as much money as a brand new 1151
>"forced" to upgrade as all this new tech is being released in just a few months/little over a year

Even if I had been willing to spend that money, I couldn't fucking find the thing from a trustworthy reseller. I just built an entirely new machine with 1151 and ddr4. The performance gains in everything I do (which is, admittedly, mostly gaymen with some A/V production) don't justify the upgrade. I wouldn't have done it had I not had catastrophic hardware failure.

It sucks so much knowing that Ryzen and consumer-tier hexacore Intel processors are right around the corner. Upgrading from a 7950 to a 1070 was a good deal, though.

>>58120500
Get a cheap used laptop/desktop from craigslist for the in-between time. You can get one under $50 and then sell it later or use it as back up computer later.

Then Zen it.

>>58113841
This is my favorite meme.

>>58106821
so this... is the power of intel... damn

It's like everyone in this thread already forgot that Intel ACTUALLY ANNOUNCED THEY WERE GOING FOR POWER EFFICIENCY OVER SPEED NOW BECAUSE THEY HIT THE SPEED WALL.
Did you retards think they only meant mobile SKUs? Protip: They didn't.

>>58120725
So why is the 7700k less power efficient than a 6700k in all benchmarks that have been released?

will Kaby Lake cpu's work with Z170 boards?

I heard they are being patched... are they the same form factor? im new.

>>58120725
They could make change their tier system to a more modern version, but they wont.

>2c4t - $50
>4c - $100
>4c8t - $200
>8c - $250
>8c16t $300

Phasing out pentium dualcore and lowering the tier down on the bottom end would give much more value to people but Intel wont.

Its not innovation, its rather competition. They illegally killed the competition with unfair/illegal practices, they paid billions for it, but the damage was already done.

>>58120739
Dunno, but they said that from now on they're not going for faster, just more power efficient and better IGPU, so perhaps the latter for this generation.

Either way, if you were expecting anything faster than what's already released, you're retarded.

>>58120766
>Either way, if you were expecting anything faster than what's already released, you're retarded.
I wasn't. I'm going AMD this generation because they decided to actually improve their processors rather than rereleasing the same shit over and over.

>>58106821
yeah nah intel can get fucked


Common zen dont dissapoint!

>>58120725
>Intel ACTUALLY ANNOUNCED THEY WERE GOING FOR POWER EFFICIENCY OVER SPEED NOW BECAUSE THEY HIT THE SPEED WALL.

Apparently they also hit a power efficiency wall

>>58106821
thank fucking christ my black friday i5-6600k for $170 wasn't a waste of cash

>>58120777
I took advantage of it and built a 5820k system with 32GB of RAM and a 1070 because nothing will be faster until we hit a paradigm shift.

The nice thing about them re-releasing the same shit is you can get the older version of the same shit NIB for dirt cheap because everyone's focused on the new shiny.

>>58106921
>>58106899
wow they REALLY fucked up

this is our punishment for letting AMD slack off

>>58120789
>i5-6600K for $170
>can't get even a fucking i5-6500 for 190€ in EU
Fuck EU, taxation is theft.

>>58106821
everything you show me about kaby lake

gets me one step closer to the edge

and I'm about to

break

>>58120805
wew its going to be like the good old days all over again

1999-2006 here we come boys!

>>58113999
Good idea, actually

>sold my i5 6200 lappy just to buy a brand new i5 7200 lappy
>literally no difference

just fuck my shit up, I'm done with intel

>>58120851
we all warned you this would happen.

AMD have been dropping the ball for what 5+ years now this is what we get

Still the best on the market so I will probably get one desu

>>58120877
>getting a CPU that really hasnt been bested since 2015
cucked

>>58106899
>Buying into synthetic bench marks

Fuck off dude.

>>58120996
whats the down side of synthetic tests?

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>>58120877
get 6900k then, feed the starving intel employee families with 500% upsale

>>58121027
Doesn't always reflect real or overall performance

>>58121027
They aren't real world examples. If you test the 7700k encoding video and gaming you'll see huge performance boosts over last gen.

I don't really need a new processor but I think I might buy this one just to piss of /g/. for teh lulz.

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>>58121044
they should sell i5 for $150

>>58121062
give the money to a hobo, at least he would have more fun with it than you

>>58121044

exactly, the whole point of Kaby Lake is essentially 4K playback, I'm very sure the single threaded performance is way higher than 6700K and probably on par with 4790K

>>58121030

6900K is another segment, 7700K is currently the best CPU. 6850K is better imho on that platform, overclocked to over 4GHZ, better single thread on hexacore.

7700K at 5.1Ghz is just insane at over 1.4W TDP, I'm running 4790K 4.8GHZ 1.3v ish at similar levels but these are synthetic for sure. I'll be upgrading by Tigerlake in 2019 anyway.

>>58121044
Modern GPU encoding's faster than CPU by quite a factor.

>>58121092
>the whole point of Kaby Lake is essentially 4K playback
so, you mean it's pointless to no end?
everyone moved to GPU encoding quite a while back

>>58121044
>>58120996
>>58121092
>>58121115
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>>58121130

Using the meme SVP (smooth video project) which is basically 4K 60fps on a real 120hz panel, you definitely feel teh CPU/GPU processing, devils canyon hyperthreaded averages 75% usage even with a Titan X, the optimization and usual TDP performance is often halved and that's the direction mostly for portable power consumption I'd assume, hence Kaby Lake was first released for laptops.

4K 60fps is fantastic. I'm assuming the ramping up is for 8K in the future, this is only on a playback level.

They probably limited the performance to give amd a head start. Once ryzen gets release Intel will unlock the 7700k's full potential and ramp up performance by 30%. It's just intels way of looping around the legal system so they don't seem anti competitive. It's for the consumers benefit.

>>58121247
>Jewtel
>for the consumers benefit

>>58121258
Well if they get sued for anti competitive practices you can kiss Intel goodbye and the whole country industry with it. AMD needs to seem like a competitor for a while so intel doesn't look like a monopoly. Intel is far too valuable to the consumer to be lost.

>>58121247
intel shills probably believe this unironically

>>58121280
>t. Paid Intel shill

>>58121258
>>58121280

Reminder that intel shifted over a year ago to cloud computing, internet of shit and big data memes

Besides, Intel has a patent licensing deal with Nvidia with a total value of $1.5 billion and an expiration date of March 17, 2017 it works out to about 5% of its revenue and a significant chunk of Nvidia’s $614 million net income (early 2016 figures).

Intel in talks with AMD to license GPU patents because Newvidya is now a wallgarden for the self-driving meme:

All of the data generated from the botnet vehicles is completely proprietary, allowing countless synergies with so many devices and businesses, it's def a strategic move from Intel to team up with AMD on the GPU level to some degree.

>>58121329
>Besides, Intel has a patent licensing deal with Nvidia with a total value of $1.5 billion and an expiration date of March 17, 2017 it works out to about 5% of its revenue and a significant chunk of Nvidia’s $614 million net income (early 2016 figures).

sell nvidia now.

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>>58121352

nah still holding, bought a crapton at 30ish last year in anticipation of paxwell and even if pic related just came in alot is riding on the self-drive meme, newvidya is the starstock and so many frontrunners are backing it up and just hiding their size. It's gonna take more Tesla marsman and SpaceX memes in flames to take it out, just that the twitter fake news debacle kinda creeped on Uber (same VC funding). The general tech industry is absolutely dependent on industrial rev 4.0 meme man, if they don't innovate it's just gonna deprecate.

hold

actually I kept selling and reinvesting the profits in AMD which is proving correct NOW just to have positions on both because China can't really use Intels botnet telemetry by principle.

when will the i5's hit the market?

im about to buy a i5 6600k.
i have a z170 gigabyte motherboard
if the i i5 6700k is around the same price i might want to get that.... if i can use it with a z170.

>>58121464

Q1 2017

>>58121390
maybe, bu I think their growth was not because of self driving cars
it was because they had zero competition in compute=enterprise
now they do

>>58121485
why isnt i5 6600k in those charts?

is it far below them?

>>58106899
you just need to delid the cpu

>>58121501
>you just need to change engine of your new car from water cooled to air cooled, it's easy

>>58121464
They should be out in January with CES 2017

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>>58106821
>>58121499

7700K > 6700K

http://cpu.userbenchmark.com/Compare/Intel-Core-i7-7700K-vs-Intel-Core-i7-6700K/3647vs3502

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>>58121499

chinese sauce plox

http://www.expreview.com/50159-all.html

>>58121464
Yes you should be able to, a lot of MB manufacturers are releasing bios to support it.

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>>58121642
i hope they release the i5 7600k around $250 or lower (reason zen amd pls). that would make me very happy. early january would be great.

>>58121539
>t. Intel shill
6700K > 7700K, see benchmarks.

>>58113399
>orders an imac
>for netflix

you focken styupid m8

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>>58121782