/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

>>58097896
how can I tell whether a given T400 has a CCFL or a LED backlight screen?

I need to install windows on my x230, should I go win7 or 10? Got 10 EDU working on my main machine dualbooted and its pretty fucking great, but its running on a 16gb 6700k. what do?

I have an x230. Theoretically, would one be able to wire a second internal mSATA connector to the SATA pins on the dock connector? Is there enough room anywhere to store an mSATA SSD connected this way?

>>58098266
7. I had nothing but problems with 10. So, so many problems. Primary thing that made me go back to 8.1 was a broken fucking taskbar (it would crash very, very frequently).

reddit.com/r/thinkpad

They have recently had a spate of battlestation postings. Pretty awesome.

are there any ultrabook style thinkpads? all the ones listed above are too thick

>>58097896
Which Thinkpad has the best battery life? The battery doesn't have to be stock

>>58098593
Look up the carbon

>>58098596
x230 if you fully max out the battery you can get like 20 hours.

You're gonna need to buy a battery + slice from lenovo though, you CAN modify the bios to run third party batteries but I think the lenovo batteries are better anyway.

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partypads

who here
>stuckin2004

I love my ThinkPad x220. Really think it's wonderful. But if only I could travel forward in time to 2026 so I could get a rereleased x220 which looks and feels the same but has graphical processing power in the CPU's integrated graphics chip on par with the high-end graphics cards of today. So I can play Overwatch and GTA V on this baby

>>58098596
ultraportable models that can accept slice batteries, 9 cells and ultrabay batteries

so, most of the tablets and x series models

best place to buy 6 cell batteries desu? ebay isnt throwing up a lot of results

post eGPUs

tell me about performance, especially when using the internal screen

my w520 needs a boost and finding a quadcore+2000m motherboard is too hard, plus i don't think it would help much anyway

i don't have an external monitor to use or anywhere to put one so i'm particularly interested in the performance drop when using the internal screen, is it a straight decrease in framerate or is it something shittier like microstutter?

please advise

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who x201 masterrace here?

>>58098799
t420 + pe4c + 750ti

overwatch i can lock 30fps high settings on the internal screen 1600x900. 1366x768 and lower settings might get to 60

>>58098799
>i'm particularly interested in the performance drop when using the internal screen, is it a straight decrease in framerate or is it something shittier like microstutter?
It depends on the game. Some games load most of the data to the vram in advance, in which case the hit is minimal. Other games try to stream as you play. The latter type is rare, but pretty much unplayable. I think Dishonored is the best-known example of that.

>>58099216
>30fps
Literally unplayable

>>58099246
look at mr pro esportz gaymer over here won't accept less than 144 farts per second with a fucking business laptop from 2011 and a free parts bin gpu

>>58099285
To be fair, any FPS feels shitty at 30fps.

>>58098593
any thing --30 onwards has an (s) model which are the ultrabook versions. X230s T430s an so on.

>>58098294
there theoretically would be if you were to cannibalise the expressport.

>>58100100
>X230s
It's worth mentioning that this was a Japan (or at least Asia) exclusive model and you will never EVER find one anywhere else. X201s was the last time the West got a slim X series, but it's not that much thinner if any thinner at all than the X220.

Can anyone explain how to change the core speed on the w520? When plugged in it goes for max performance and gets pretty hot. When unplugged it's cooler but noticeably slower. Using cpuz it shows ~3.4 MHz when on the charger and when unplugged it's ~.9 MHz.

I don't really know anything about the significance of these numbers other then bigger number = faster, but want to able to set it an "average" speed for normal performance. I've explored the BIOS and could only find that I can either set it at max performance or battery saver.

The cpu is a i7 2860 qm and the gpu is a quadro 2000m

Also on a side note how do I make it so that the laptop sleeps when the screen is closed?

>>58097896
x220 masterace reporting

>>58098634
What do you even use these for?

>>58099216
>pe4c

Is it necessary to get an egpu expresscard thingy as expensive as that one. I looked it up and it is 162 USD whereas I've seen ones on gearbest for fifty bucks usd.

I have never done anything egpu related on a thinkpad just curious.

i did a clean install on used w540

what's do i need to install to get all the extra keys like volume up and down working? looking to install the least amount of bloat

>>58100570
Fun

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I need some help guys
I was upgrading my t420 to 1600x900, so I swapped the LCD cable and as I'm putting back in the palm rest I accidentally put in a longer screw, i didn't notice till I hit a circuit? I'm nos sure what it is
So, i put it back together and it won't turn on, I'm trying to determine if that's the cause, it doesn't look too deep and if it is, do i need to change the motherboard?

Tl;dr im an idiot

I have an i7 t420 with integrated graphics. How big of a step up is the t430 with an i5 and Nvidia chip?

Thinking of getting a modern Thinkpad or similar computer but it needs to handle MATLAB well. Thinking an i7 and at least 12 GB of RAM, any suggestions?

>>58101489
If you get an egpu or just build a budget gaming rig it would be a better investment imo

>>58097896
what size hdd does a t420 use?

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Is this a good deal on a w520? T420 owner here

>>58100605
i got it at a better price than that, but yeah i've heard the price jumped by a whole lot recently. the pe4c v3 is said to be more stable at gen 2 signalling than the older exp gdc versions. the more recent exp gdc v8 might have fixed that, though i'm not sure.

Does the T series have a tablet version? Basically looking for a 14" thinkpad with touch capability.

>>58101536
What sort of data will you be working with in matlab? I've an XPS 13 with an i7-6560u (2C/4T) and 8GB ram and haven't run into any issues with matlab.
Then again, I only use matlab for data filtering and analysis for my research. It all depends on your use case.

>>58100128
That isn't a bad idea. Only issue is the lack of proximity to the dock connector pins

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Well, I ended up buying it despite everyone here telling me it was overpriced by a couple hundred bucks.

I'll be sure to report back next week with the inevitable buyers remorse.

>>58101613

>bells and whistles
>WiFi

>>58100570
t42 is my daily driver for web browsing, games, etc
r52 is for music storage
x41t is for drawing
R30 is for CS 1.6
380ED is for, idk, windows 98 funtimes, simcity 2000 and doom
G40 is just for the lols, thiccpad is so cool

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>>58098871
X200/X200S here, picture shows my X200S.

I actually also used to have a X201, but the entry level i5-520m was way worse compared to the P8600 in my X200.

In any case, the X201 is the last no-touchpad X-series, so it deserves to be praised.

>>58102776
a custom touchpadless palmrest for the x2x0 would be sicknasty

[THINKPAD W520]
15.6" 1920x1080 LCD
Intel i7-2720QM Quad Core @ 2.2GHz
8GB RAM!
500GB SATA hard drive @ 7200rpm
2GB nVIDIA Quadro 2000M discrete video!
DVD+\-RW multi-burner
Built-in card reader
1394 Firewire port
802.11agn wireless
1GB Ethernet
Ultranav
Secure Chip
Fingerprint Reader
Built-in webcam
6c Li-ion Battery

>$300 USD
Did I make a good purchase? Gonna replace the battery with a 9 cell when it gets here.

>>58102052
I do image processing stuff, particularly with image registration

You have a recommendation? I've been looking at the newer XPS 13s with Kaby Lake

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how do you guys clean the oil stains off your thinkpads and those light scrratches on the rubber top part behind the monitor? These minor cosmetic flaws are a real peev

>X220T
>2520M
>300gb HDD (have ssd sitting here)
>original 6 cell battery
>9/10 physical condition

>$150 AUD

merry christmas lads

>>58101010
get a broken mobo and replace just that chip if you have soldering skillz

>>58101613
screen resolution?
nvidia 1000m or 2000m?
it's a good deal anyway, but you should know exactly what you're buying

Hello /g
can someone tell me if this if usefull
https://www.amazon.fr/KALEA-INFORMATIQUE-Controleur-EXPRESSCARD-SUPERSPEED-Affleurante/dp/B0083I317A

and will work on Tkp X220

got a thinkpad branded laptop bag today.

looks pretty good, holds my x200 with 9cell like a champ.

>>58104642
was it expensive?

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>>58104694
like 12 bucks shipped, which was a quick turn around. like a little over a week from china to the US

>>58104745
looks nice. i've been meaning to get a laptop bag for a while, i guess i'll look into one of these.
thanks

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Do I need a 12,7cm or a 9,5cm caddy for my T420s?

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R8 my pretty IBM T40

>>58104947

gay/10

Should I get an x201 or X220? I'll be using it for programming & note taking, which would be best for that kind of usage? Thanks!

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>>58104947
stop touching the screen

>>58106290
X220t so you can actually take notes. Typing is not an effective learning strategy, plus its fucking annoying to have an autist banging away at his keyboard in lecture.

>>58106499
Is the keyboard very loud? In my class we all bang on keyboards cause programming, but the netbook I've got now (samsung n150) has a pretty silent keyboard, albeit slow as fuck that it can barely run xfce smoothly

>>58106290
Get the tablet variant of the x201, I use my X22T for note taking and it's pretty damn great use of the stylus because onenote. But the 16:9 screen ont he X220T is annoying. X201Thas a 16:10 screen so that helps alot.

X200 : the pins of the power input got destroyed a bit and it keeps disconnecting, it's really annoying to find the perfect positing of the plug. Can someone take a pic of its power in? I'm not sure which is signal/power/ground

>>58097896
around a year ago i bought a t420 from ebay. the battery charged up until 68%. I found this acceptable and didnt bother much.

Now, I bought another T420. For some reason I used the power adapter that came with it to charge my "old" thinkpad. Somehow, it charged it up to 83%.
Though, both power adapters show different modell numbers, they have the same power output.

Anybody has a clue what the reason might be?

>>58098871
What is that wallpaper?

>>58107315
hot air baloon. I have it somewhere, but i dont feel like going through 6k unsorted, improperly named, images to find it.

>>58107351
>hot air baloon
Thank you!

>>58098006
shameless self bump.
yeah the >http://tp.krelay.de/ is great, but wat do if there's no way for me to know the type (no type sticker left on the machine || too much hassle to ask the seller etc)?

>>58102776
>the entry level i5-520m was way worse compared to the P8600
please elaborate.
aside from the trivial fact that it's one generation ahead, afaik the 520m has noticeably higher benchmarks, and I can't find a single advanced feature on ark.intel which the P8600 possesses and the 520m does not.

>>58103184
scratches are not something that you can clean off. you can either be more careful with your next thinkpad, i.e. always tuck it in a sleeve or a dedicated padded laptop bag, or just accept it being a tool, not a jewelry piece, and hence signs of wear being nothing to be ashamed of.

>>58102729
>t42 is my daily driver for web browsing, games, etc
what specs does it have which make it daily driveable?
I can't imagine anything older than **00 being still daily driveable without huge pain.

>>58107776
TDP, 25 Watt vs 35 Watt, big difference for a laptop that size.

For X220 users
I got my x220 today, but cpu is very hot. 70-80 degrees with chrome, 50 degrees idle.
Is it normal on x220? i7-2620m version

I bought a 2570p for $100. I hope I don't regret it, I've never bought a laptop before.

>>58108958
>2570p for $100
Am europoor and jealous of such bargain.

>>58108958
>>58109004
This. It's a great laptop

>>58102776
X200s here, but I have the p9600 and the 1400x900 screen.

Are there any x201s's for sale anywhere?

>>58108958
max it out with a quad core

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>>58109049
They're rare as fuck. Search ebay every day and you might find one within the next six months. Best official X series is worth it, though.

>>58098650
>GTA V
It'll play that on low settings right now.

>>58109099
I remember seeing one for like $250 on ebay a few weeks ago. Considering how rare they are, is that a normal price?

I got my x200s for $50.

>>58109126
Yeah, that's pretty good actually. Mine was an auction and it spiked to fucking $400 due to all the snipers piling on at the end. Of course, a week after I'd won it, I saw a buy it now listing for one for $150. You pretty much have to take whatever you can get with the rare models.

>>58109062
The product page said it has a quad core already, not sure if it's a mistake.

>>58109156
2 cores 4 threads

>>58108922
Repaste.

>>58109126
eBay? Does the x200s often go for that low?

>>58109707
I got it in "for parts or not working" condition, replaced the keyboard with a brand new one and slid in an SSD I already had.

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So I now have this.
How the hell do I enable Wifi? I can't find a key that looks like the antenna symbol I'm used to. Sorry if I'm being dumb, on my previous laptop it just werked.

>>58109799
Look for a small switch on the right side of the machine and make sure it's pushed towards the battery.

>>58109826
Cheers buddy.

Anyone can take a clean pic of the power plug of a X200 (laptop side)?

It's not a fetish, I just broke mine and might solder something.

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hey boys. complete fucking newfag. if i install linux on my chinkpad will it allow me to connect to public wifi/school wifi?

>>58101536
I have a t440s with the lower end i5 and 12 GB of RAM. I use MATLAB for image processing and parallel computing (to write programs for a computer cluster).

I'm interested in purchasing a Thinkpad for under $600 and there was someone in Amazon selling P50s and P70s for $600 when everyone else sold them for over a thousand bucks.

He's gone though, and now there's a guy selling them for $450.

As a future engineering student, these models are highly tempting but I'm unsure if it's bait, /g/.

>>58109918

Of course nigga.

t. Recently-kill $200 Fedora Acer craptop owner.

>>58109968

Update on this.

The guy ran out, now there's another guy selling it back at $600.

What kind of RAM would fit into an x230?

I get the impression RAM chips aren't as standardized as hard drives. Those I can do.

>>58110328
>PC3-10600 DDR3 memory at 1600MHz
says the wiki

>>58109799
german keyboard?

>>58110565
german keyboard!

How much would you folks pay for a relatively unused T460 or X260, online on an auction or used items site?

>>58109799
>RETEQ
wut?

Bought an L420 second hand a couple of weeks ago. Dropped some extra RAM into it and a larger hard drive.
Current specs: Core i5-2520M / 12 GB RAM / 1 TB HDD.

Some thoughts:
a.) Did not realize until after purchase that the L420 is Legacy BIOS only, no UEFI.
b.) Did not realize until after purchase that the BIOS implements whitelisting for mini-PCI wifi cards.

Solved problem A by using Clover EFI bootloader to emulate EFI in software.
Solved problem B by flashing a modded BIOS.

Now multibooting Linux Mint 18, Windows 8.1 Pro and macOS Sierra 10.12.2, all installed in UEFI mode.

Problems aside, bretty gud laptop.

>>58110565>>58110597

Same

>tfw it was cheaper for me to get a german thinkpad + keyboard than an EN layout thinkpad

tfw I want to remove my thinkpad x230 apart, but afraid of fucking it up and breaking it. I can't afford to buy a new laptop. What should I do?

>>58107776
Pentium M 755 @2ghz
2gb of DDR 666mhz ram
32mb Ati Mobility 7500
40gb 5400rpm hdd

Its still plenty for smooth web browsing, older games and Youtube

People grossly overestimate the requirements for shitposting

>>58111493
don't break it

>>58111493
>>58111722
This. But what excatly do you want to do to it that requires pulling it apart?

>>58111790

My computer keeps turning off without any warning. I want to remove the dust that may be inside and possibly apply new thermal paste on the cpu.

>>58111160
The company that refurbished it I guess. Think I'll remove that sticker, it's ugly.

>>58111898
I don't think you're going to get between the CPU and the heatsink without doing damage. Dust removal is always good, just blast it with an air compressor.
As for the machine turning off suddenly without warning, I'd bet that the power supply is shot.
I've never tried fixing a power supply on a laptop though, so I'd probably recommend you take it to an actual electrician for that.

>>58098266
If you have an SSD and don't care about the new (ugly to me) design go straight with 7, identical functionality, way less problems, more consistency through all the system and it doesn't just fuck up itself for no reason (the win32 integration and overall the new explorer are just unstable on 10 and that shouldn't happen).
If you don't have an ssd buy the cheaper one, the i5/hd4000 on the x230 are just so good I can't imagine them with an HDD, the cooling system is well made for the size

>>58098266
>>58098294
>>58112185
I'd recommend 8.1 Pro instead of either 7 or 10.
Faster than 7, supports Metro apps just in case you want them, but you still retain the option of disabling updates and maintaining a stable system, without the spyware unlike 10.
Although you will probably want to install ClassicShell for a proper Start Menu.

Why does /g/ mostly shill for the T420 over the T430? Is there a big disadvantage that I'm overlooking?

I need a notebook with a USB 3.0 port, so I'm looking for a X220 i7, X230 or T430.

>>58112365
muh keyboard

Going to akiba today to buy maybe an X220.

Does anyone have experience with any Japanese equivalents for Thinkpads? I noticed a ton of NEC Let's Note and other cheap Panasonic models.

Where do I buy batteries? (Im in EU)
Also, whats best, getting a shit one and replacing cells or getting a brand new?

Has anyone tried the t420 keyboard on a t430 mod?

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>>58112365
430 has a shitty keyboard and shittier USB placement.

Citation: All I do is work with thinkpads all day

>>58112431
Would you recommend the X220 i7 or the X230 over the T430 then?

I really don't care about the size.

>>58112420
I've done it with X230

>>58112460
x220 i7
but not him

>>58109890
You broke what, the cable somewhere on it's way from power brick to plug or the plug itself? In case the latter, maybe that's just me but the thing is proprietary and I doubt you'd manage to niggerrig any other plug that would fit.
On the bright side, it's not model-specific or even thinkpad family-specific, it's just the "Lenovo 20V round plug", picrelated, a grey one like this. Any 65W Lenovo brick with such plug will do, no matter if it's the newer one with round corners like picrelated or the blocky one like X200's stock. A 90W one wont hurt either, but they're heavier to carry.
Avoid older IBM ones, which have black plugs, those are 19V (or something) and wont fit.
Preferably avoid chink ones, /tpg/ says these can set your house on fire.

>>58112460
X230 with X220 keyboard

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>>58112550
forgot picrelated

>>58112460
Its kinda boils down to preferences.

The X laptops get hot on the keyboard but the T's get hot on the back and side if that matters. Personally im not a huge fan of any of them, and the only one I used for non work related things was the 420/430

>>58112073
>As for the machine turning off suddenly without warning, I'd bet that the power supply is shot. I've never tried fixing a power supply on a laptop though, so I'd probably recommend you take it to an actual electrician for that.

If the PSU is shot then at that point I might as well just buy a new laptop. I've had this laptop for almost five years, so it gave me a good run.

>>58104745

link

My battery is a piece of shit I only get one hour and half tops even running a WM like openbox
Is it worth it to buy a new one? I have a T410

>>58112550
It's only the female plug on laptop side is broken, it's kinda annoying. I'ma lready niggering it by pressing the plug against stuff to make contact but it always fail at some point, I just don't know which pin is supposed to touch which. (Should be evident but the pins are strange)

>>58113289
>only the female plug
>only
How did you brake that you savage?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WKupQKjnwKg

>>58104947
What OS are you going to throw on to the qt?

>>58108175
They also moved the graphics controller from the chipset to the CPU.

>>58112236
Why not 7? With careful patching it is better than 10 and 8 (in terms of usability) and doesn't have all the spyware of the newer versions.

>>58113766
>brake
I dropped it and the critical plastic part that maintained order in this clusterfuck of pin broke.
The drop also killed the backlight, which I have not replaced because.

>opening the laptop
oh god not again. thanks for the video

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So I just bought a laptop that runs off windows 10. Redpill me on why windows 10 is even bad and is it worth switching it to windows 7 or 8

>>58113954
Define careful patching?
I'm interested, I only use win7 on all my comp.

>>58111692
What OS and browser are you using on it? My T40 (1.5GHz, 1GB, same everything else) struggles with YouTube and heavy sites on W7/FF. Does the Dothan make the difference, or are you running some niggered-up Lincucks shit to make it usable?

>>58112236
>faster than 7
only on HDDs and only at startup, with a cheap SSD and with normal usage for a laptop (daily use with quick programs opening and standby when not used) 7 is as fast if not faster.
the only valid option you gave is the ability to use metro apps and... well... you judge
7 is the one that under normal usage gives more confidence with its stability and simple interface, prove me wrong

>>58114034
Telemetry
Advertising
Hassle

Google it faggot

>>58112365
just for the keyboard and the price is a bit lower.

in fact i have a x230 and i'm super happy with it, the keyboard is good enough for me (i got 95wpm on the first test i tried and i went over 100 once with an EN keyboard in IT mode) and the 3rd generation CPUs are worth their price, USB3, more efficient and far better iGPU. go for the t430 or x230 unless you're super interested in the keyboard.
also unless you need a big screen cause it will be your main workstation go for the X series, i got used to the 12.5 screen instantly coming from a 15.6 one and it's comfy as fuck, it's basically as portable as a tablet

>>58114050
Means to only install patches that do not add telemetry, GWX or any other spyware(971033 is OK if you have the OEM key).

>>58114059
It runs XP with Firefox
Handles 480p (which is fine on that screen if you ask me) and 720p if i download it first, but thats kind of stupid

The better cpu really does help, a 2ghz pentium is like 10$ and gave me a significant increase in peformance even just over the 1.7ghz one that was in there before

>>58112431
You can swap the t430 keyboard for t420, I dislike that you can't remove the cpu on a t430

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>new T470

>>58103164
E5470 with a full quad core CPU (6440HQ/6820HQ) should be sufficient.

>>58114645
Windows Hello compatible face camera?

>>58114787
Thanks

I really like the track point on the ThinkPads so I'm gonna see if I can find one meeting that roughly. Seems like they almost all use SATA for the SSD which is aggravating

Where could I snag a reasonably specd tp without breaking the bank too much

Ebay auctions? I'd like to stay away from Craigslist.

>>58116039
>Ebay auctions? I'd like to stay away from Craigslist.
haahha nice meme
You're more likely to get ripped off on Shitbay than anywhere else.

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Boutta buy a new P series

How big a mistake am I making?

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I want to test the battery on my thinkpad. I need a tool that will log the uptime of Windows and save it when the battery dies. I been searching for a while everything that I find seems to only give you the uptime of the current session. Any ideas?

I need a lot of help, my friend gave me his t400 for free but was in a bad mood and fucked off, god I can barely type, there is so much hair under the keyboard, help me /tpg/

Is there an easy way to get under the keyboard, I got a gas can but I'm assuming I cant remove the keys without the high likeliness of breaking the scissor switches [I think] underneath.

>>58116515
dude.. what???

get a rag and wipe it off? under the keyboard used a can of compressed air? make sure the power is off.

>>58116534
I dont know man, he didnt even tell me the user password which I'm assuming im going to need to reset it, Unbuntu Mate it looks like.

It's his cats hair, I incorrectly said gas can for some reason, sorry about that.

Sorry about my typing I'm in hell right now

I dont think compressed hair will be enough it's really in there.

>>58116575
Let's go step by step here, is this your t400 or someone elses?

The keyboard can be cleaned but whatever you do don't wash it, there's alcohol sprays and you can use a rag to clean it, anymore than that buy a new keyboard.

are you fixing for your friend? call him tell him to pick his shit up and fuck off because there's no need to keep people who treat you that way in your life, cut him off.

>>58116611
OK I switched to my phone, he gave it to me, he's a weird dude.

The surface of the keyboard has been cleaned, it's underneath that's the problem.

I tried taking a picture but my phones camera is too amazing I guess, file size too big.

I know scissors switches are weak as hell and if I try to pry the keys off I risk breaking them, so I was hoping for a better way to clean it?

He didn't give me his keyring login pw, and won't tell me cause apparently it's his generic for everything pw.

Still not sure if I'll need it to reset

>>58116675
Just get a new keyboard on ebay, they're cheap.
As far as the password, is this for the OS? Just format and install whatever OS you want solves the problem. if its BIOS though its a paperweight.

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>>58116701
Wow they are cheap, I'll buy a new one post xmas. Thanks mate.

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Just got a P50 with a Xeon. Thing's a beast! Love it!

>>58116743
jesus christ anon delete this.

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>>58114645

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>>58116778
I'm going in~

>>58116848

Is that pet hair or pubes?

>>58116866
He has a ginger tabby, pubes would be... I wouldn't have taken it even for free.

>>58104642
>>58104745
where did you get it?

>>58116743
i would buy a replacement keyboard off ebay at this point, more as an issue of self-respect

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Considering buying a X220 soon, as it is my favorite Thinkpad.

I was planning on slowly upgrading it over time.

Is it possible to replace the CPU?
What about replacing the screen to a 1080p one?

>>58117038
massive forehead without bangs

>>58116776
That's what I'm looking at buying. Glad to hear it works well, what's the battery life like?

>>58117057
Same as every asian girl ever. People are often ugly without tending to and adapting their appearance and smoothing over their faults; who knew?

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>>58117006
I will be doing that, eventually

But for now I think it's functional until I can set the money aside.

So the Ethernet port doesn't work, and neither does the bottom left click, how difficult are those to fix?

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What is this bulge on the right side of the lid? Never seen an X60 with something like this before.

>>58117631
Looks like a stylus holder of some sort

tfw five years from now the P50/P70 will be the x220/x230 of today. I can't wait to upgrade in five years.

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>>58117631

>>58117643
Why would a non-tablet X60 have a stylus holder?

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>>58102669
If I remember your post correctly, you got dubs, so Kek willed it. I ordered mine off newegg as well. Hopefully when ours get here we both will be pleased.

>>58117762

Yes, that was me.

Praise kek, my friend.

>>58117666
Never reply to my posts again unless you're contributing to the thread.

Are there any laptops on the netbook size range (10-12") With slots for 2 drives?

Bonus points if I can replace the keyboard to fit my foreign needs.

>>58118146
X220.

Msata and sata

>>58118476
Looks a bit big, are you sure it's on the netbook size range?

>>58118146
uhh the x131e might support an msata drive. probably needs to be the intel i3 model to be bootable

>>58118802
Doesn't need to be a thinkpad btw, since this thread is usually considered "business laptop general".

>>58118817
There aren't many good price/benefits new laptops out there on that size range. If you go used you'll end up looking at the x series Thinkpad or an HP elitebook.

I have a T430, is 16gb of ram worth it? I currently have 8gb.

>>58101536
IIRC, most of the time MATLAB is using a single thread, so there is no reason to go for the threads, i5 would be enough.
>>58119227
For me - no, I'm using my desktop for hungry soft. Look for yourself.

>>58117658
wwan antenna

I'm looking at a listing for an x201 w/ i5, 3gb ram, 160 HDD, and dock for $90. For no OS/battery, is this a good deal? Also what are some trusted batteries for an x201?

>>58117652
Probably, since all four of them are trash.

>>58118673
12.5" & easy to replace keyboard.

>>58117038
can not upgrade CPU
upgrading screen to 1080p difficult requiring special community parts.

>>58119351
So in the old times before they figured out to make part of the lid from plastic for better antenna connectivity, putting the antenna outside the lid in such appendage was the pinnacle of engineering? Impressive!

I'm looking for a t430, but also considering t430s,
what is the general /tpg opinion on them both ? It would be mostly on a dock, so extension ports are no problem, the mobility excites for when on the way. Don't mind the keyboard really. COming from t410

Looking at you >>58114258 :)

I just got my W520 today, I'm on amazon about to order another 9 cell battery, but since it already came with a 9 cell (said it was 6 cell in description) I was wondering if I should just keep the one I have.

>@ 80% charge it reads 5h 14 min remaining
is this good or should I just get a new one?

>>58119491
>>58119491
keep it
2hr 58m stock batteryt420 59

>>58112959
>>58116988
shit, sorry. was on ebay.

seller was caddy_shop so look for that one.

>>58119527
okay thanks

X220, X230 or X240?

How terrible is 1366x768 to use nowadays?

>>58120005
perhaps a little less terrible than using 1024x768

How terrible is 1600x900 to use nowadays?

So I played cs on my t430 lol all settings low and 640x480 res. It has the i7-3520. The game runs fine actually but my temps instantly shoot up to like 90c. Is this normal? Should I reapply the thermal paste?

>>58120105
eye cancer tier

Hi guys, I'm considering getting a ThinkPad. I've been looking at the i7 X220 as I need a touchscreen in which I can use a stylus to write notes on.


Any tips or recommendations?

>>58110448
Thanks. Can I go lower than 1600 mhz or would that be incompatible?

>>58119401
fuck
kill me

I've heard that the 20 series thinkpads and below are compatible with chink batteries. Is that true? Are 30 series model not compatible? And what about the other biz laptops (elitebooks, latitudes).

Although this is a dumb question since chink batteries tend to be shit anyways

Should I get a regular or mSATA SSD for my T420? Regular ones are cheaper where I live, but I kinda like the idea of how light the laptop would be with just an mSATA SSD for storage.

Anyone using a X220?

How does it hold up nowadays?
Is it worth it?

>>58120969
xx30 has a whitelist that prevents the use of fake batteries

>>58120126

>T430

I'm surprised it doesn't shoot past 90

>>58120969
already answered but yes its true

anything under xx30 is compatible with generic batteries, xx30 and up needs genuine lenovo batteries

i don't know whether this is a jewish trick, or if they do it for liability purposes (they don't want you to say lenovo burned your house down from using fake batteries)

>>58109968
>>58110170

Was his name Ximai? If so, sounds like a scam.

>>58120126
Yes, yes you should.

>>58116370
Well I found out batterymon from passmark did exactly what I needed, I left my x220 (stock specs, stock screen, 1 msata drive, 1 sata ssd drive) with a older 9 cell battery on Windows 10 with Wifi and bluetooth off brightness on 3, and left a video playing on fullscreen using VLC.


It got 5 hours and 51 minutes.

Will try it again tonight with Windows 7, same conditions and see what I get, may even try later on with msata only and see what the difference is, if significant I'll be getting me a new larger msata drive.

I just got a x220 i5/320gb hdd/4gb for $129, did I get fucked bois?

>>58123003
Nope. You were a good boy.

>>58123059

thanks senpai, I'm berry excite.

>>58123003
>>58123081
pics pls, I gotta fappe

>>58123086

waiting on it to be delivered in a few days, no gg faps today :(

>>58123166
i got mine for $70.

No HD, 8GB RAM and a bad USB port,9 Cell bat with 120 cycles

>>58119426
I've used a t430 on a dock this entire semester and had a fine time
Upgraded ram and ssd, put HDD in caddy

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Looking to get a eGPU for this old thing.
It's already 7/8 years old and I know it's irrational, but I see it as a little project.

I'm going to hook it up via the exprescard slot (http://www.gearbest.com/laptop-accessories/pp_229102.html)

Anyone any suggestion which gpu I should buy for it?

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>http://www.dankpads.com/2016/12/haswell-laptops-started-10212016-this.html
Starting on haslel laptops
Instead of releasing info all at once, I am going to do it as I go, then categorize them later in different pages

E7440 so cheap.

I put my T530 on energy-saving mode in the power manager. Then I looked around a little and find it entailed, among othr things "Passive" cooling for the CPU IE it lowers processor speed before increasing fan RPM.
Can anything get fucked up if I do this? It might be a stupid question.


Which Thinkpad runs the coolest and quietest?

http://www.theregister.co.uk/2016/12/22/raspberry_pi_foundation_releases_operating_system_for_pcs_macs/

>System requirements are modest: Upton promises PIXEL “should run even on vintage machines like my ThinkPad X40, provided they have at least 512MB of RAM.”

Might be useful. Playing with it in a VM at moment. Nice and light.

>>58124374
No, you are fine. Because the fan will just kick in or the CPU will throttle if it gets too hot.
Nothing wrong with keeping it cooler/hotter, as its mainly just 10 degrees difference overall.

You will be fine, I am presuming you are running windows. Unless it is extremely hot, like hot to touch. I wouldn't worry about it, because the fan will always kick in when needed.

Just redo the thermal paste, T530 has a big heatsink, so I would presume heat will dissapate better than my T430s.

>>58124453
Yeah I'm considering repasting it, I did so awhile back but I bought the cheapest possible paste. Maybe I should invest in some better paste.
Right now just writing this, with a few tabs open it's at 47 degrees celcius

>>58109111
Without an eGPU, no way in hell you can play GTA V. Intel HD 4000 barley makes it playable so no way the HD 3000 can do shit

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I would like to upgrade my Ideapad Yoga 13 to a Thinkpad, and I was thinking of the X230 since the i7 processor on it is slightly more powerful than the laptop I currently have.

Is it a good choice, and if not, what would you recommend?

>>58124680
Oh and I do basic video editing and basic gaming.

>>58124688
>basic video editing and basic gaming
you should get a thinkpad with kabylake
intel hd graphics have significantly improved since ivy

>>58124200
>>58124200
>>58124200
>>58124200
>>58124200
>>58124200

>>58124774
>>58124688
But ivy HD4000 is also a huge improvement over sandy HD3000.

>>58124550
Yes you can, I fucking run it through wine.

>>58124791
I mean you're basically asking the same thing as a guy building a desktop PC, for which there are many threads.

>>58124845
being able to 'run' a game is different from being able to 'play' a game.
do you think 15fps on vga resolution is playable?

>>58124881
It runs better than that. Have you even tried?

>>58124847
Doesn't matter right

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>>58116866
Both.

>>58124200
egpu for anything before sandy bridge is kind of a crapshoot. the only advice i can give is get that exp gdc instead of a more expensive pe4c and a really cheap nvidia gpu. that way, you haven't sunk much into a project that might not work out.

if the first shitty gpu works, try a 750ti afterwards. very likely optimus won't work with the onboard intel gfx so you'll need to use an external screen.

>>58124898
There's basically two bottlenecks instead of one.

First bottleneck is the PCI-E 1x bus, so no point in wasting money on a fast card that'll only be as fast as it should be in a 1/3 of the circumstances.

Second bottleneck is that there's no point in getting a fast graphics card because your CPU is old and you'll be bottlenecking that 80% of the time anyway.

Conclusion: Don't waste money on a fast card, i.e. 1050 or slower. I would say do something fun like a passively cooled card, and there's further bottlenecking if you don't use an external display from the card, so keep that in mind.

>>58124550
>>58124845
wtf, gtaV on intel 4000? I guess it's better than what's in the X200.. I can't run anything close to gta.

>>58125516
I regularly play Skyrim on a HD 3000. They're much nicer than people give them credit for.

>>58125427
>>58125494
thanks lads, this helps

>>58125531
Shit. I can't even play open haxgon without lagging. And it overheats on FTL. Damn.

>>58125531
They play games decently at the resolutions on the ThinkPads

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>>58098593
>ultrabook
>chicklet keyboards
>chinkbooks
Why not try a master race Thinkpad anon?

>>58125832
>x40

Sure is 2006 here.

>>58098634
shitposting from a souped up x40 atm

>>58125943
it gets 8-10 hours of battery and doesn't have any management engine nonsense

i even stripped out systemd and am working on eliminating dbus

trumpos

>>58125832
>calls itself ultrabook
>isn't thinner than my fingernails
pathetic.

>>58097896

X220 8GB RAM 120GB SSD 1366 x 768 for EUR 239,90
or L430 with same specs but
1600 x 900 (HD+)
64GB M-SATA SSD
500GB HDD
for EUR 249,00?

Is that 64GB SSD going to be a meme and I'll have to replace it?

>>58126003
nobody gives a shit about intel me, maybe with exception of some autistic freetards
Shoot yourself

>>58124453
Look who it is again, xsauc.. I'm fed up with your shit faggot. The other day when you called me a newfag, yeah, haven't forgotten about that yet. Fuck you I've been on here for months and probably get on here more than you anyways. Don't you know that you make yourself look like a newfag when you call others newfag? Just because you learned how to hack your name and change it to "xsauc" does not give you the right to disrespect anyone at any time.

>>58126018
a 64GB SSD is fine for install the OS and some programs
you'll be fine without upgrading since you have the hdd

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>>58126145
Why are you even on this fucking board?

>>58126238
I'm longer here than (you).
And I definitely belong here, unlike (you).

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>>58126284
Your (you) proves otherwise, get the fuck out.

>>58126314
Nice meme response. Where did you get these pictures from? Reddit or /b/?
Either way, fucking leave.

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>>58126359
Out out out.

>>58126284
Newfag detected

>>58126018
My Windows 10 Enterprise SSD was 64GB and the fucking OS decided to download 24 gigs of windows updates that I couldn't delete or remove

Fuck that thing right now.

>>58126173
is this a new meta meme?
cans i press f for respects?
f
f
f
f
f

ok b bye

>>58120126
I would game on my T60p with elevating it and having a makeshift casefan powered by a USB underneath

I had a keyboard and mouse to game with ofc.

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comfy

i've been running linux on my t430 for a while but i was looking to install windows for a few programs like photoshop and after effects, what would be the best version to run?
mostly interested in performance, but privacy is also a concern.
i5
8gb of ram

>>58126145
Actually more and more people have become aware of the dangers posed by these kinds of baked-in spyware schemes.

>>58126510
Just install those programs in wine, they run fine and it's easy.

>>58126515
you mean more and more freetards who simply didn't care so far

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Ljt

does anybody know the fan model for the t430 with nvidia gpu? i plan on getting a 3612qm, but would like to get a better fan or heatsink so my temps don't skyrocket but i don't know which model number i'm looking for.

>>58127487
nevermind, found it. 04W3269 for anyone curious.

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in bed at work, so comfy

Is it possible to replace the shitty T560 768p screen with a 1080p screen?

I recently bought a T420 on ebay (4236B28)
came with a french keyboard and no fingerprint scanner. Is it possible to upgrade the shell and trackpad for fingerprint support? Which part nrs. would I need?

Same for keyboard I want to change to US layout bought FRU 45N2141 to replace 45N2152(french) but it doesn't fit it's a couple mm too long even tho lenovo's keyboard service parts says they should be compatible (they're even both in the middle collum if that matters)

Do I need a different keyboard for the version with fingerprint too?

>>58128415
Just search eBay for the parts you need. You're looking for a palm rest with fingerprint scanner, keyboard, and the fingerprint scanner itself if the palm rest you buy doesn't have one.

It's all interchangeable.

While you're in there, pull your CPU heatsink and reapply thermal paste and clean the fan. If you don't have Bluetooth or the Ultimate N wifi card, now would be the perfect time to install them.

>>58117631
I believe that is the wifi antenna

>>58127564
So your moms house?

>>58128847
whats ultimate N wifi card? The stock wifi card in my t420 is abysmal

>>58128847
I already installed a cracked bios so that it supports intel 7260ac wifi, 16GB ram and soon I'll get my 2760qm(going to clean the entire thing up with compressed air and some ic diamond 7 I still gave around here somewhere) and hd+ cable for matte IPS 1600x900 screen upgrade. Along with 9000mAh 100wH battery and Samsung 850Pro 256GB ssd and ultrababy hotswap hdd bay adapter.

I'm pretty sure the only thing left to upgrade is the fingerprint scanner.

So far all works fine no issues just the keyboard I ordered won't fit, I'm not sure if the keyboard fru is dependant on the palm rest that's all.

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Which one?

>>58128415
>fingerprint scanner

don't

http://jolt.law.harvard.edu/digest/telecommunications/court-rules-police-may-compel-suspects-to-unlock-fingerprint-protected-smartphones

>>58129278
2nd one is just a github version, obviously 1st

>>58128415
C-can you send me the shell without the scanner if i send you mine with?

>>58129394
is thinkfan the correct thing to use? Or is there something better?

>>58129007
Base card iirc is 2.4ghz single antenna, ultimate N is 5ghz dual antenna

>>58129417
For what? Regulating fan speeds?

>>58129436
is this the base card? Ive noticed I get garbage speeds over LAN in Linux, even when copying off of SSD's

Intel Corporation Centrino Advanced-N 6205 [Taylor Peak] (rev 34)

>>58129471
yes

>>58129411
Nope

>>58129297
Not everyone lives in Dumbfuckistan cuck

>>58121333
bump

>>58129515
practically anything can do, so yes

>>58121333
"Anyone using an x220?"
so, nearly half of the entire general?
it's one of the best thinkpads along with t420 if you're looking for a good laptop with classic thinkpad features

>>58129588
Is it viable nowadays though?

>>58129599
vp9/h265 content makes my x220 get hot

no usb 3 is a pain in the ass

1366x768 isn't that great

ethernet port is in a stupid location

>>58129599
of course
if you don't find it viable, just throw in few upgrades
>>58129619
never had my thinkpad go past 30-40C on that sort of content, not even after hours of videos
no usb3 can be a pain, I admit, but I don't use it that much
1366x768 is shit, but it isn't as painful as it is on t-series, pixels are already fairly dense. panel is replaceable
don't know where this one came from, the placement is fine. hell, I've even used laptops with ethernet on the back, so compared to that, it isn't bad at all

>>58116370
>>58122902

OK so the results are in.

Windows 7 same task videos playing on VLC with internet off and nothing else. Volume on highest earphones brightness on 3.

Over 8 hours battery life vs over 5h30m on Windows 10

>>58129501
You need to swap this for something else if you want to hackintosh without using USB wifi.
But to swap the card you'll need to flash a modded BIOS because Lenovo are assholes that put a whitelist on the mini PCI Wi-Fi cards.

>>58097896
Just got a T530 for the wondrous price of free from a dead guy. How did I do, /tpg/?

>>58127487
Are you having to do a mobo swap or what? Where would you even get the igpu? I have an i7-3520 t430 and wanted to upgrade to a quad core with a dedicated graphics card but I'm not sure how to go about that or if it is even worth it.

Could a modern P50s use MATLAB well?

>>58131523
wondering this as well
also will be using other heavy-duty software
http://www3.lenovo.com/ca/en/laptops/thinkpad/thinkpad-p/P50/p/20ENCTO1WWENCA0

is it a cop or not?
and what specs are recommended?
don't play any videogames or anything

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fresh shilling

>>58131665
>Apple spends money to try to get our small community of neckbeards to buy MacBooks to bolster their profits

pathetic, Murrkans baka

>>58126905
normies care too anon

>>58128951
No, I get paid to sleep here in case something happens.

x220t is great as my doodle machine and people ask whether it's from the 80's when i get it out which makes me feel rad

>>58123713
thanks for the input

>>58101010
t420 mobos aren't that expensive on ebay, are they?

>>58126499

Seriously, black tape at the very least.

>>58130496

Did you kill him for it?

Best linux distro for my T420?

Has anybody tried the illuminated waterproof keyboard for the panasonic cf-19? Is ist better or worse to type on than the regular one?

>>58098634
my R61 looks almost identical to the one on far left
also if that thing on the background is a CRT it looks sexy as HECK

should I buy a x220 or x230?

Are there any guides just to cleaning out a T420? I've had mine for a while and I've been meaning to give it a good polish since I use it so heavily.

Hey guys.

My current laptop got fubared and I'm looking for a new one.

My needs are:
•~8 hour battery life (can include slice/ultrabay batterys and such)
•Can run Photoshop well with 2~3 open images of around 5mb's each
•Will last a minimum of 4 years with light maintenance (no total event collapse)
•Can maybe run Counterstrike on low acceptably without getting about 70°c.

I've had a whip around and I've considering either a 440p/s/standard.
What would be the best for my needs?
Would a 440p last long enough, would a 440s be quick enough?


Sorry for all the questions, I'd like to be well informed. Thanks guys. Ily

just found this PE4L v2.1b eGPU Adapter for 25Bucks.

Is it worth buying it?
wanted to egpu with my t420

>>58134066
x230/t430

>>58133997
x230

then replace the keyboard with x220

>>58133151
arch

>find X220T on ebay for 150aud
>arrives in 2 days from 1700km away
>2520M, 8gb ram
>condition looked pretty good in photos
>comes in original box
>literally no sign it has ever been used by anyone
>perfectly clean under keys
>exhaust doesn't smell like curry
>third party caddy that perfectly fits a standard 9mm ssd
>original 6cell battery
>power manager lists 5 cycles
>150 AUD

stoked 2bh

>>58134921
comfy af

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>>58134281
Not t440?
Also BUmP