/tpg/ - ThinkPad General

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>>58058985
Hello, is there a way to configure the trackpoint with i3 and Archlinux (through cli)? I can't use it atm…

T420 screen keeps going black if I move my screen a little.

How do I fix?

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JEBpad

>>58058985
Is it worth buying either an R40/R51 for only 100 AUD?
I found someone on eBay selling one of each for 100 per laptop, not sure if I should get one or which one I should get.
All I'll really use it for is lightweight web browsing.

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JEBpad 2

>>58056549
I would say that if you plan to do any gaming, get a desktop or a Lenovo Y series laptop. The W520 will handle older shit on medium settings just fine, but don't expect it to run anything from the past 3-4 years particularly well. This is a workstation and the drivers for the graphics card are geared towards professional work, not consumer gaming.

>>58059131
Assuming the Australian Dollar is no less worthleds than the Canadian one, $100 is too much. You could get a T400 for that money, and easily a T60, both of which are better. The R serves was the old budget line before the Edge came along.

>>58059211
I preferably want a Thinkpad with a 4:3 screen, I'll look into the T60 later but from what I saw earlier they were at least another 50-60 bucks. Would there be a big performance difference between an R51 and a T60?

what's the best model for my friend? current laptop's is slowly dying. likes to watch movies and use indesign, nothing much else really except for browsing. t420 or a better model? budget is around 250eu

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I'd like to as yet again - what is the general opinion about t430 vs t430s ? I'm most certain i'd like to have a t430 - upgrading from t410. But the t430s also seems a decent option.

>>58059619
Look up T430s disassembly videos. I actually don't know how difficult it is for the T430s, but for the T420s the process looks like a huge pain in the ass.

>>58058985
As I'm seeing a shitton of third party batteries for the x240/x250 : Did they make third party batteries possible on the x40 x50 series again? As in, no more chip that prevents charging?

>>58059109
screen ribbon cable broken. Try to open it up and plug it out and back in, if that doesn't work look if you can replace it, else you need a new screen.

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Looking forward to picking this beauty up for $17 next week.

Seller claims it works properly.

My first vintage Thinkpad, yaaay!

>>58059131
Absolutely not, im not sure how bad the walaby tax is out there on consumer electronics, but here in tbe US the regular price for working, in good shape T42, R52, and earlier related models is around 40-50 USD

If theyre in fantastic shape, fully upgraded to 2gb ram, 2ghz pentium m, good gpu models, and come with acessories, and have windows xp still
Then maybe

But you can get much newer machines at the 100$ price point
Try and find a T60/61
Oldschool shit is still plenty for web browsing, i use a T42 as my daily driver, but theyre not supposed to be expensive

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>>58059905
Nice anon

Welcome to the cool kids club

>>58059978

is that a 770 or 760?

I came across the laptop while scrawling literally the shittiest of the shit online ad sites for a Model M or similar keyboard. It was listed as "2526 think pad" or something like that. I hope other """"collectors"""" won't find it and pick it up before me. I have already hadarranged with the seller (probably an old man) a meeting next week and asked him to reserve it for me.

>tfw my frankenstein w500 with a dead battery and janky keyboard is getting some use while I reinstall windows on my primary machine

>>58060032
380ED
20 years old as of yesterday

Id go get it as soon as possible. These things attract hipsters more than a skinny jeans sale at American Apparel

Anyone know where I can find an E6320 in the UK for cheap? Cheers.

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is a T520 something that I could comfortably use on my lap while laying on the couch or is it too huge/heavy for that?

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Thinkpad x1...want this bad boy

How unwieldy is the 9-cell battery on the X220 when compared to the 6-cell?

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I know I'm making a mistake, but why shouldn't I get this? I want a fucking HUGE laptop, and this fits the bill.
Imagegs suck.
http://orlando.craigslist.org/sys/5922013574.html

>>58061824
Prepare for a housefire
My glock fowty has a 2.8ghz pentium 4 in it at the moment, hot as fuck

Theyre cool, even just for the "socket 478 in a laptop" factor
Dont expect it to be the most powerful machine though. The integrated graphics are trash, my T42 runs circles around my G40

>>58061954
I'm not looking for fast or anything, mostly just the cool factor, while still being able to be used. Are internals more modern, like SATA compared to IDE?

>>58061994
dude the G40 is from 2003
its still pata inside of there
you're looking at a max of 2gb of 166mhz ram, it can run (stably anyway) up to a 3ghz pentium 4, any higher will cause underclocking

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>>58060471

Seller agreed to hold it off for me until I go check it on Tuesday.

Do you have any idea what these accessories might be apart from the charger?

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I'll try again.

Yes or no?

Refurb, W10, 240GB SSD

>>58062222

Addendum: I'm buying something this week because I need a new laptop, so if it's not this, it's going to be something else. It's not an impulse buy.

>>58062163
looks like a serial to 3.5" floppy, some kind of foreign power adapter, and some little pcmcia to something adapters
but no cards to go with them, unless the cards are already installed in the machine

>>58062521
thanks

the power adapter is my appropriate to my region (EU)

I do hope there is an ethernet PCMCIA card in it somewhere...

>>58062545
if not theyre cheap as shit
i bought my IBM etherjet card for 5$ or something, downloaded the drivers onto a floppy, installed it on the 380ED

ta-da, shitposting from the late 90's

>>58062222
Do you need a tablet? You should be able to find this a hundred dollars cheaper

>>58062222
Kek wills it; logic doesn't.

>>58062222
>328 USD
is this a bad joke?
go away

Got an E6320 for £104 :D

Good price guys?

i can get an x120e for 135. looking for an ultraportable machine for basic webbrowsing and writing. that's a decent buy right?

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>>58058985
Thoughts on the elitebook 2570p?
Vs thinkpad x230?

I like the chassis of the elitebook more, and the design, and I love that it's got great cooling, but the screen and touchpad of the x230 looks nicer.

They're both also very close in price.

Could I upgrade the elitebook to an IPS screen?

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>>58064768
If only they made the x230 with a metal chassis and better color scheme ;_;

on the x230, does the whole touchpad click down like macbooks? also, how is the quality of the touchpad in general

>>58061608

pls respond ;_;

>>58065355

put a weight of 2.6kg on your lap that is roughly 15.6 inches wide. theres your fucking thinkpad

>>58059122
BASED ThinkJeb using an IBM thinkpad. I wonder what PCMCIA or express card accessory he's using.

>>58065678
based jeb has a biometric t42
and thats a wifi card

the lucky bastard, i bet he knows too, i bet he watches me from across the street through my window as i search on ebay for the biometric palmrests to put on my own t42

Hi /tpg/ I want to replace a thermal pads in T420 but I don't know what is the thickness of them. Maybe somebody know the thickness and can solve my problem

>>58066407
i'm not sure the t420 uses thermal pads. as far as i know everyone's been using paste

Does anyone know how are quad core 35w TDP i7 temps and battery life on a T430?

I can spend around $1500.
What's a modern, high-spec Thinkpad with good battery, that isn't considered shit?

>>58067255
hotter and less long

more specifically, you'd be looking at about a 5-10c increase under load and about half an hour less battery life on average compared to an i5

>>58068243
define "modern".

Currently being sold by the manufacturer, made in the last couple of years, i.e. not an ebay gamble.

>>58068506
Fairly recent, not secondhand, current specs

>>58068605
T460 is the current gen T series thinkpad
560 if you want a bigger screen
460s if you want a slimmer model at a higher cost

The current "best" stock T460 is around 1480$
>i7 6600U
>14" 1080p IPS screen
>16gb DDR3
>256gb SSD

24gb of ram is 20$ more, a larger ssd is a tad more, or exchangeable with an HDD

>>58068694
Thanks, that's what I was thinking about getting. I don't understand what everyone is saying went to shit with the recent models, though

>>58068812
They need to justify buying a 4 year old thinkpad with their neetbux.

>>58068812
well, when you compare it to some older models, you are losing some really useful features, and things that were unique to the thinkpad brand

dont get me wrong, the t460 is a good laptop, spec wise, build quality wise, and definitely holds its own against other professional laptops in its price range

but, the keyboard is a bit lackluster in a few ways, namely the shortness of the keystroke, the shape and curvature of the keys, and the odd layout
you also lose the thinkpad buttons, the i/o is a bit mediocre and the interal layout is a mess

if youre use to chiclet keyboards, or dont mind them, then you'll have no issues

but if youre like me and alot of other people here, who use alot of the older keyboard designs, ranging from the super oldschool with the shortstroke mechanicals, to the later keyboards in the IBM models, and pre t430 lenovo ones, its like using a cheap chromebooks keyboard

Lenovo at first took the Thinkpad brand and kept with what it meant. The rugged, high quality, noticeably professional laptop that was really worth its expense, and kinda went to compete with other consumer tier laptops while still marketing the laptops to professionals


but its currently the best thinkpad lenovo has to offer, if the thinkpad retro ever comes out then we'll have a true contender, with the older keyboard layout and better keys, and hopefully a 4:3 screen

I've got an ultrabase with a hard disk on it. What's the proper procedure for undocking the laptop? I currently run a quick

umount /mnt/ultrabay

I need a laptop that I can take to university everyday, and am torn between the t430 and x230. x230 has excelent battery life ans super lightweight, but the t430 has more screen real estate, especially with the HD+ screen. Is the weight of the t430 too much to haul around on a backpack all day?

So im looking at older ibm mini thinkcenters to use as network storage in my basement, ive found one thats a 2.8ghz pentium 4, lga 775 system with a x16 pci-e riser that supports a full size bracket
Now im thinking, 4gb of ram, some 775 xeon, networking card, raid card and shitloads of 2.5" drives rigged up inside
It has a 350w psu with an actual pcie 6pin on it, so power wont be an issue

What should i limit myself to price wise on this. With shipping its about 50$ as is, comes with XP and looks to be in great cosmetic shape

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Took you guys advice and bought a W-Series (W520) to compliment my X220 instead of a T420.
Payed USD 300 for it. It was on sale 10% off. This will be my second and probably last ThinkPad purchased. Unless I buy another X just because they're so portable and fun to dick around on.

>>58065888
Probably I suppose but I'm 99% sure that the T42 has a wifi card in it.

>>58070802
same

>>58064789
the x230 has about as much metal as the elitebook. the palmrest on the 2570p is kind of a cosmetic veneer.

who here x201 masterrace?

What are some fun things to do with a Thinkpad X201 running Xubuntu 16.10?

>>58070944
swear to god I made that last post in this thread before reading yours

>>58071024
i heard there's pornography on the internet you can look at

What distro & tweaks do you all run to maximize battery life?
I was thinking I'd go with Xubuntu, remove all the shit I don't use, and install TLP.

I hear Arch can get great battery life, but I'm a bit intimidated. I'm pretty comfortable with Ubuntu & Debian based distros, but installing from scratch is scary.

Does anybody else have problems undocking ultrabay devices while running Linux 4.8 on Debian testing? I'm not sure if it's a kernel bug or some configuration error. I'm using the ultrabay-scripts package and it was working months ago.

Would this work in an X230?
It says it's for Mac but from what I can tell it should slide in just fine.
Double-checking before I pull the trigger.

>>58071562
>doesn't include link
https://www.amazon.com/dp/B008LTBJK2

>>58071337
tbph my first distro was Arch
just follow the wiki, senpai, it's not that difficult.

>>58071634

I'm down for it. It's not like the computer is dead if I fuck up.

Does Arch have better battery life than others? I imagine it's heavily dependant on the choice of DE and how many packages are installed.

>>58069822
are you a massive pussy?
if no, it's not bad and barely noticeable.
if yes, get the x230.

>>58071580
As long as its the same speed and format yeah

>>58071562
It's a DDR3L SODIMM. That's a standard.
There's no reason why it wouldn't work, but you can get the exact same crucial memory without the "For Mac" stamp for $10 less.

>>58071680
I mean
The battery life is just as shitty if you install a billion fucking programs or use really resource-intensive ones
The only reason it would be better is if you intentionally keep as few packages on there as possible, and choose to use the lighter-weight versions of programs you currently use
Lubuntu would give bretty good battery life, as well.

>>58071726
>exact same crucial memory for $10 less
I don't see a PC3-10600 16GB kit without the Mac label, senpai

>>58069048
That, and the fact of the matter is, I don't see why in the hell someone would be over a grand for a laptop. I just... I don't understand WHY.

x220 for $120 or are there better options
keep in mind im poor

>>58072294
an x220 at that price is a pretty good steal.

>>58072348
not a new one, used, any problems with that? theres like 4-6 x220s used for that price and am probably going to get one after christmas

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If I buy the elitebook 8570p, could I upgrade it to a 1080p ips panel?

Or at least just regular 1080p?
They ship with a 35w dual core. Can I upgrade to a 45w quad core? Thermals seem really good in reviews, with no throttling of the cpu under torture so it's more of a compatibility issue I think.

Really loving the aesthetics of the elitebooks 2bh.

I'd rather the elitebook 2570p, but the touchpad looks too small to be functional. I was considering an x230, but you can't upgrade the processor and while the keyboard looks great for typing, I'm not a huge fan of the chassis design/aesthetics. Love the way the touchpad has been implemented in the x230 so it's still a potential option.

trying to decide between x230t or x230 and intuos draw wacom tablet. how well does the x230t hold up overall?

>>58072576
I'll be honest. What puts me off from the x230 is the plastic exterior.

what do u think of the x301

>>58072607
X230 has a plastic palmrest on top of a magnesium shell. 2570p has a metallic sticker on top of a plastic palmrest on top of a magnesium shell.

I want to upgrade my 2570p screen to a 1080p ips. Will this work?
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/32715184749/32715184749.html

It's for the thinkpad x240 but it's the same 12.5" as my elitebook, isn't it?

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>>58063966
>>58062222
Kek says yes

>>58072764
it's probably not going to work. there's been zero talk on the usual laptop dork forums about an FHD panel working in that model of elitebook. i don't think anyones even found a 1366x768 ips for it yet

>>58072965
>he forgot about taobao

>>58072965
If the connector is the same it'll work, right?

>>58066962
On chipset and some other things it use thermalpads

>>58073101
not necessarily. same connectors might still have different pinouts, accept different signalling, different power recs, etc. you gotta go over the specsheets to make sure.

nerds were very proud of themselves for finding the 768p ips from some alienware laptop that'd fit in a t420. still havent found anything higher res that'll work

then there's the custom adapter boards for the t430 those 51nb guys came up with, but that's a whole other can of worms

Would a T420 (or T420s) be a suitable replacement for a 2011 13" MBP (2.7 GHz i7, 16gb ram)?
Was looking at getting a dedicated machine for coding for school so I can use the macbook for photo editing/general shitting around online.
Even though I probably have a budget of $600, I think I want the T420 for the memes n shit. Would it be a wise decision?

>>58073555
why would you even bother?
the t420 has the same or worse specs, and a FAR worse screen.

>>58073283
Well, shit. There goes my dream of a 1080p quad core 12.5 inch elitebook for 500 dollarydoos.

Would that monitor work with the x230?

Holy shit can I use this in a ThinkPad?

14 inch 2K 2560*1440 IPS HDMI DVI DP DisplayPort Driver Board Display LCD Module Screen Monitor for Laptop PC New Original QHD
http://www.aliexpress.com/item/32695763249/32695763249.html
(from AliExpress Android)

>>58073584
I've found compartmentalizing aspects of my life has made me more productive, and I feel like having a dedicated coding machine would make me less likely to fuck around on it. And my current screen has a resolution of 1280x800, so it wouldn't be too much of a difference.

That being said, it could just be my GAS acting up again.

Looking to buy a good cheap laptop for multimedia. Will probably watch most my shit in bed.

Which business class laptop has the best screen? Don't care if 1366x768.

Also, would you recommend 12.5 inch or 14 inch? I was looking at the elitebook 8470p. Could I upgrade that to ips?

Does anyone have 8470p, what are the impressions?

Soooo... after pondering forever what kind of notebook I want this time, I've decided on a refurbished X240 with 1366x768 IPS. Ordered a pro dock, new 6 cell battery and 256gb 42mm m.2 SSD for it.


Did I do good? Will there be anything I miss, coming from a Latitude E6420 (apart from 16GB RAM)?

>>58074458
>no clit

>>58074474
it has a clit, it just doesn't have the physical buttons for it

>>58074474
I've heard that it was greatly disliked, but it was like 300€ less than a comparable x250

>>58069096
FN+F9

>>58069096
you got the button on the left side of ultrabase
just press it and undock

>>58074639
this fails to work on my thinkpad x200 running libreboot + trisquel. annoying as fuck.
there once was someone who fixed it but they took their github offline.

>T430 i5-3210M/8GB/500GB/1366x768
160 € in EU, cop or not?

>>58074697
install stock bios, you autistic fuck?
Jesus christ.
>buhuu I've installed shitty abominative bios, what can I do to restore basic functionality??
Install gentoo and shoot yourself

>>58074702
>1366x768
fucking dropped

>>58074783
why so mad tho

>>58074702
For 160E it's good

>>58071337
kernel options

workqueue.power_efficient=Y i915.enable_rc6=7 i915.enable_psr=1

modprobe.d

options snd_hda_intel power_save=1 beep_mode=N
options usbcore autosuspend=1
options iwldvm force_cam=N
options iwlwifi led_mode=1 d0i3_disable=N uapsd_disable=0

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Where can I find this?

>>58074825
because of straight up telling what bullshit you did to your thinkpad, you let them blindly guess and then revealed your massive autism,
Thereby wasting their time. You are a massive cunt.

>>58074825
because you haven't installed gentoo yet
don't forget about the shooting yourself part

>>58074783
>>58074851
what about ACCEPT_LICENSE="-* @FREE"

>>58074865
go on, but shoot yourself after that

>>58074839
Thanks man.
I'll definitely be reading into what exactly these options do.
Long live the battery

>>58059619
anyone else ?

>>58072064
It depends what you do
My dads boss have him a maxed out P70 as a job bonus, becausewhile his work doesnt really need it, a more rugged laptop thats much faster than his latitude would really help him.
As hes doing on the spot industrial drafting. His latitude did 2D AutoCAD 2015 just fine, but the P70 makes it look like childs play

Also, this kind of hardware just generally costs alot of money. Taking out the cost of everything thats not an essential component, a T460 is expensive to build. And wbat you get for that money is worth it when you consider whats at lower prices.
Yes you could get an i7 6600u in a crappy acer for 400$ less, then youre noticably losing the thinkpad build quality and other features like great cooling and expandability such as an hdd in the ultrabay

>>58072396
Thats the whole point of this thread existing anon

The cycle of a thinkpad brings it to us at cheap prices.
>bought by office
>used for 4 years or so
>hdds are removed, sold to resellers
>resellers sell as is or do quick refurbs
>1500$ laptop turns into 150$ laptop

So 120$ is a decent price. Just make sure it has the specs you'd want and looks to be in good shape

>>58058985
I have an urge of creampying every thinkpad user

>>58072576
The touchpad is small, but it works quite well for the size as it's made of glass. The metallic exterior is very nice and sturdy.

guys, I have a few questions. I'm looking for a really cheap laptop for doing work on the go (idk, around 200-250$ or so, and yes... I am poor) and I figured a thinkpad might me what I'm looking for, but I could use other suggestions too if you have a better one. I need a decent keyboard and screen (I could use a higher resolution screen than the 1377x768 one but I'm aware in that price range I most likely won't find, tho it's worth mentioning). Decent battery would be a plus too (I kinda only need battery for when I'm train, so around 2-3 hours of battery time would be amazing) and be somewhat portable. Also, as processor like and i5 will do (my PC right now has a shittier processor than the i5-2520M one a x220 has so yeah...) I won't be doing much gaming on it anyway, and the games I play (Heartstone, and Dota 2) might actually work better on that than my current PC.
Now my curiosity is ... what would you recommend getting? I'm not fixated on thinkpads, I can go for anything as long as it's in that price range)
I'm also curious how much does the battery of a x220 last? or even a T420. I need an average value depending on task if you guys can provide. Like I'm interested how much it lasts while coding and watching movies.

I'm pretty sure all of the 12" models with a 6 cell battery have battery life of 4-6 hours. x220/2570p/e6230 that is.

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I'm thinking of getting mSATA SSD and install Tiny Win7 from eXperience on it.
I have Linux installed on the SSD, and all the storage goes to HDD caddy.

Have any one tried doing something similar?

Hey. Is it possible to get a 1080p IPS screen for an x220?

sup lads
got my HDD caddy for my t420 after waiting like 2 fucking weeks and it works well. Only thing is the cover bit that makes it look like a dvd tray didn't take into account the little bump the t420 has so the caddy wont go in unless you take it off, Bit annoying as now I have to trim it a bit and it leaves a gap, can I plug it with like a bit of a rubber rail or will that cause heating problems?

Also what's a good tool to formatt this HDD on arch linux?

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>>58076938
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/partitioning

>>58076938
I have no idea what you're saying.

>>58076842
>Tiny Win7 eXperience
Hmm, looks interesting. Is this a safe thing or is it a Russian hacker botnet(TM)?

>>58076967
ok ok
>>58077068
which part confused you? I'll take a picture of what I mean about the caddy cover not fitting later

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>>58077200
https://thepiratebay.org/torrent/5039629/Windows_Tiny7_Unattended_Activated_CD_%28x86%29_-_eXPerience

It's from the same guy that made the microXP.
I want it to run some games, and windows specific applications instead of running a VM.
There is a USB bootable Win7 ISO but not sure how the performance would be.

Is it worth buying x230 over x220 if I find it at a decent price? what's different except the newer processor?

How much is my T450s worth
specs:
Broadwell 2.3 GHz i5
upgraded to 180 GB SSD
upgraded to 12 GB RAM
upgraded to IPS 1080p display

>>58077655
nuked windows right when i bought it, so would sell with linux installed

T420 still the best used buy?

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>i5-2520M
>Max Memory Size (dependent on memory type) 16 GB

can my x220 utilize all the of the memory or am i being memed?

>>58059093
archfags BTFO yet again

>>58078302
It can, But apparently it will have issues with eGPU setups under windows.

>>58078192
Depends on what you want

>>58078314
i dont plan on running a eGPU.

>>58078315
Battery life, sub 15" monitor and pre Ivy Bridge CPU

>>58078302
>archfags BTFO yet again
Thank you for keeping us in touch with your valuated opinion, OP!

>>58078314
>it will have issues with eGPU setups under windows
What about a W520 with 16GB in a 4x4 configuration?

12.5 vs 14 inch?
X230 vs elitebook 8470p vs 2570p?

Just want to watch stuff in bed like movies and anime when I'm tired.

>>58078407
as good as you're gonna get then

So, the d and b buttons of my T420 are being less responsive. I'm gonna clean the laptop inside out, but I assume that won't solve the problem.

Where is the recommended place to buy a replacement?

>>58077303
This is TPB new site?
I thought it's gone.

T430 with
8 GB RAM
i5
Nvidia NVS 5400M
180 GB SSD

for 320€
Should I?
Are Thinkpads with Nvidia a meme?

>>58079186
x230, since it'll be lighter sitting on your flabby anime chest than the 8470p and have a better screen (if you find one with ips) than the 2570p

>>58079289
'ppreciate it

>>58079449
Just going to buy the cheapest option available once I figured out which of the 3 I want.

So I guess no IPS then.
Also going to use a bed desk thingy and I'm not weak enough to be bothered by a laptop so weight isn't an issue.

>>58079373
can't speak for filthy limey prices, but my opinion is that onboard nvidia isn't worth it. an hd4000 might not run a game, but it's not much better for a 5400m to start the game, but run it like shit, and overheat during.

egpu is a fairly clunky solution to this, but people go that route because it really does work

>>58079537
>>58079373
As far as I understand the nvidia ones will be louder and warmer in general use as well, so there's not really any benefit

>>58079533
I just keep a book on my stomach and the laptop on the book. Started doing this when I had some shitty HP which could fry an egg while watching a youtube video but I've kept using it, keeps it a little cooler I guess maybe

>>58079615
Oh yeah and in addition the nvidia will drain the battery faster

any more news on the 2017 x1 carbon? some leaks showed they added thunderbolt 3, which is nice. but i also heard they're fucking with the keyboard, and not in a good way.

Is a thinkpad x230 screen compatible with an elitebook 2570p?

They both use the same 40 pin connection which should have the same standard pinout.

Who /Eseries/ here?

>really want an elitebook 2570p to upgrade to a quad core 12.5 inch workstation
>touchpad looks too small to be functional

Is it really that bad?
Also why did Lenovo fuck up with the x230 and solder it together?

Also, would you consider the i7 3610qm a decent processor? They're the cheapest quad core Ivy bridge I could find.

>>58079831
here's the only report i've found on someone trying to put an ips screen in their 2570p. pretty much no dice:

http://forum.notebookreview.com/threads/hp-elitebook-2560p-owners-lounge.586353/page-27#post-9232151

>>58080433
Looks like the ips just wouldn't fit.
Shit.

What is the best HD+ screen you could get for a T420?

So I'm transferring to a proper college in the spring from a community college. The community college provided everyone with cheap crappy Chromebooks so I don't have a laptop of my own yet.
Do you think a t420 or t430 would be able to take me through 3.5 years of college? I'm a double chemistry and physics major, so it would mostly be just for email, web browsing and word processing.

>>58080656
Yes, I don't see why it wouldn't

>>58080707
I just don't want to have to buying a new computer to get through senior year because the old one is too slow.

>>58077554
The x230 has a chiclet keyboard. They're not as bad as some people make them out to be, but they aren't as good as the old ones either.

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Hi guys!

So about a year ago I bought a x220 Tablet off of ebay for a decent price. When I first got it everything was very awkward feeling. The OS felt sluggish and would often do very odd things such as tell me file explorer had stopped working ect.. And mind you this was on a fresh install. I'm not a tech savy individual, so I was hoping some of you could point me in the right direction?
>inb4 install gentoo etc...
I am not comfortable with using any OS besides windows currently.

>>58080739
I can't see email, web browsing and word processing getting that much resource intensive within 4 years. Web browsing maybe, if they keep adding more bloat to websites but a scriptblocker solves that

Post pics!
Love seeing x220 and x220t!

>>58073555
>>58073774
Bumping for this.

Would this work?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Lenovo-ThinkPad-T420s-14-Intel-Core-i5-2nd-Gen-2-6GHz-8GB-128GB-Windows-7-Pro-/252675554539?hash=item3ad4a2fceb:g:4QEAAOSw4GVYS0yN

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>>58080848

>>58080890
pet that doggo NOW

>>58080897
But he doesn't like pets, anon.

>>58080909
impossible
don't break my heart

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>>58080918

>>58080780
Get an SSD. Absolutely the first thing anyone should buy to go with their used Thinkpad. Laptop spinners suck shit.

>>58080940
c u t e
u
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>>58081004
I actually already have one inside of mine. Maybe I should point out I still have all the thinkpad bloatware installed.

>>58081016
http://imgur.com/a/umqLZ

>>58081004
Speaking of which, I'm about to get one for mine. Does it make any real difference what kind I get or can I just go with the cheapest one I find

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>>58080848

>>58076842
just install WES7 x64, dumbfuck

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>>58080848

I know a big plus to thinkpads is their price (and then their modularity), but if a dell is currently the cheaper option, is there really any reason to get the thinkpad (I really dont give a fuck about all this hype)

yo any canadians out there this is a pretty good deal for an x220: http://www.ebay.ca/itm/222346264705

it's about what i paid except i had to pay more on shipping it from the us

>>58081229
If the Dell isn't a Latitude or Precision, it's not comparable to a Thinkpad. Even if it does belong to either series, you're getting a worse keyboard, far worse clitmouse (12-inch models don't even have a clit at all), and a machine that is otherwise equal or inferior in all other aspects. Also, while Thinkpads introduced battery DRM in the --30 generation, Dells have had charger DRM for a much longer time. You also of course miss out on the backing of the Thinkpad cult, which is not nearly as much of a joke as it sounds. Thinkpad enthusiasts know their shit.

I would only consider a Dell over a Thinkpad if it were significantly cheaper or a specific model like the E6400 over a T400.

>>58081229
replacement parts are stupid easy to find and a lot of research put into non-oem part alternatives. very well-documented modding of stuff like screens, bios, ram speeds, hackintosh, keyboard, etc. the docks are cheap and fuckin rule. there's an army of tp dorks on /g/reddit/tp forum/lenovo that can troubleshoot practically any problem on any model

>>58081229
>>58081462
a great example is in this thread right now: some dude asked if he could put an ips in his elitebook (ok an hp not a dell but it's still a fancy business notebook). the answer was a pretty solid "no"

if he had an x220/30, well there's these 3 part numbers available, avoid the first one since it ghosts a little more than the other two,and some guys in china figured out how to adapt this 1080p screen to work, and this other guy just prototyped another solution, so it'll be interesting to see his finalized adapter board, etc etc etc

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ran my t42 outside under load for an hour
its -18f outside

take a look at those temps

>>58081095
>>58081171
Comfy. What's the radio(s) for?

What Linux should I try on my E6430?

>>58081462>>58081563>>58081439
But guys... I can upgrade my inspiron (dell) to an i7-2620m, for 90 bucks (I broke the mobo side pins while upgrading my hd to ssd, so need to buy a new mobo (60$) and broke the keyboard (10$), these parts costs and risk of replacing these parts is why I wanted a new laptop), but I have no problem finding parts on ebay for it...
Why would I need a clit or dock?
The only plus I currently see with thinkpads is that my inspiron is a pain to take apart, but is there a thinkpad that is worth the cost? Im getting 8gb ram from a friends broken laptop, and the repairs and cpu upgrades listed above total 160$, is there really any reason to buy a thinkpad?

>>58081900
Also why is the trackpoint thing so inaccurate? Jesus.

>>58073625
Look for the x330 mod from 51nb guys

>>58081937
The battery has gone to shit on my laptop, but upgrading that (to 9 cell) costs some 30 bucks on ebay

So I actually got a Thinkpad T420.
I mean, it's not bad and all. It does the job of being a productivity machine and all...
Buti can't help but keep worrying that I might've got memed into buying THIS SPECIFIC MODEL.

>>58082118
i mean....what are your specific needs?

is W series good for mass storage, got a 6TB HDD for information storage. Basically im turning it in to a literal library. Videos, text files, PDFs, music.

>>58082150
It's no more or less capable than the T series. I think the W700 and W701 might be exceptions with two internal drive bays plus the ultrabay? I'm not sure about that.

If you don't have much need for specs (and it doesn't sound like you do), you could get a T400, two Ultrabay HDD caddies, and the Thinkpad Advanced Dock. That would net you three 2.5" bays without having to get an overpriced 17" monster.

>>58082118
i love mine
>looks cool
>robust
>nice keyboard
>clit mouse
and it just werks for browsing internet and playing music
just got my new hdd caddy, need some more ram and an sdd and im set for years
if you like it why are you worried about memes?

>>58082306
okay, good to know, thanks

>>58082306
why a t400 instead of a t420?

>>58082918
The Advanced Dock doesn't support the T420 and I don't know if there's a dock for the T420 that adds another Ultrabay. If there is, there'd be no real reason to not go for that instead.

>>58058985
not sure if it's alright to talk about here but are thinkcentres any good? specifically : https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-ThinkCentre-i5-2400-Professional-Computer/dp/B01E97J8OI/ : looking for a sub £500 pc to browse the web with and maybe play league but I know pretty much nothing about hardware

I'm making an offer on a t42p for the sake of having a light usage carry around laptop at a low cost.
From the images on eBay, the HDD seems tp have gone to shit. What are the specifications of such a drive and what's a good price?

Should I use windows XP on it, or try a Linux distro? Which one, if so?

>>58083142
You'd be looking for a PATA drive, but don't bother. Get a PATA to mSATA adapter and use an mSATA SSD instead. PATA HDDs are miserably slow.

>>58083104
now considering
https://www.amazon.co.uk/Lenovo-Desktop-ThinkCentre-i5-6600-Win10Pro/dp/B01LZTKRW8/

I mean it's a bit bigger but still within an acceptable size and that harddrive hotswap bay will come in handy

>>58083054
t420 can have 3 drives (msata + 2hdd/sdd, does t400 + dock get 4? if not then t420 is a better choice

>>58083267
Since he wants it specifically for mass storage, not necessarily speed, I was recommending the model he could stick the most 2.5" HDDs into. Talking total storage capacity, mSATA drives top out at 1TB, while 2.5" HDDs go up to 2TB for significantly cheaper. Two 2TB HDDs and a 1TB mSATA SSD would run you ~$500, three 2TB drives would only be $300 and would get you another terabyte of storage. I don't disagree that a T420 in such a configuration would be preferable for general use, but if raw storage capacity is all that matters, a docked T400 will get you more for less.

>>58083379
except you're overly reliant on the dock
t420 has 3 without a dock so it's way more efficient plus if you're going to keep your laptop docked all the time why not just build a nas instead?

>>58081937
well they gave you a few good reasons why *someone* would opt to get a thinkpad over another type of laptop. now it's time to look in your own heart and decide if they're good enough reasons for *you* to buy one.

fix the dell or get another one if you really want, don't expect anyone in the tpg thread to know how to fix it or upgrade it or mod it

>>58081937
lol you could get a t420 for 90 bucks if you really wanted to

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this is a computer i use only once in a while. last few times i had it on i remember it giving some basic Windows error messages about the HDD (a real HDD not SSD) that I ignored.

now when i turn it on few weeks later this.

is the hdd busted?

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>>58083551
this was the 2nd screen. after that it started up and there's a Windows error message waiting for me

>Windows detected a hard disk problem
>Back up your files immediately to prevent information loss...

>>58083584
HDD is donezo. Listen to what the computer says and back yo shit up.

>>58083621

cheers.

not like i even need the thing but now i can't really even sell it. oh well maybe i'll come up with a use for it.

>>58083142
i use my T42 on a daily basis, pick up a 2ghz pentium m for 10$ and 2gb of 666mhz ddr3 ram for about 20$, or stick with a lower clocked pentium m if you want longer battery life

XP is perfect for it, linux will be fine too, especially if all youre doing is web brosing and regular office program stuff, word processing, etc
youre not gonna see much of a performance difference anyway

anyways, 2.5" pata/IDE hdd will be fine
you can actually get them pretty cheap in good shape from ebay sellers who sell oldschool apple parts, my hdd in my t42 is originally from a powerbook g4
>>58083212
youre not gonna get better speeds when youre putting msata through pata

you still get pata speeds

wjy is x220 glorified?
is it a meme?

>>58084310
It is a glorified meme.
Buy the 2570p instead.

>>58084310
Because he is beautifl!!!!

Thinkpads x2xx and t4xx series suffer the PWM. It's very saddly

My first ThinkPad was an impulse purchase from an anon in this thread.

There's also this T42 2373 for a great price in working order, what perks or disadvantages come with this variant?

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My battery is dying for my x220. Its still using the battery that came with it when I bought it used.

How do I judge a good replacement battery to get?

This thinkpad still performs admirably for the tasks I actually require it to handle. The only problem is that sometimes it runs hot for certain tasks. The screen is much better than I thought it was going to be when I originally saw the resolution in the product description. I've been running pleb linux on it but I'm thinking of reformatting again as I tend to reformat every few months or so. I plan on switching back to arch because I find mint tedious is some respects but easier in others.

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guy taking orders for his x220/30 1080p ips mod:

http://forum.thinkpads.com/viewtopic.php?f=43&t=122640

a little bit of soldering to be done though:

https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B2mH6ffKfXjCSmZEdHZxbm5nbEU/view?usp=drive_web

>>58084543
is this thing worth it?
looks like too pricey. hope he opensources this, and chinks might create a cheaper one.

>>58066407
mine didn't have pads.

>>58069822
the weight difference is barely noticeable. and u get a bigger screen with higher res

>>58084676
honestly? i don't think so. it's a lot of extra money time and labor for what is supposed to be a good cheap laptop that just gets the job done.

still friggin neat tho

>>58071024
retro emulation with sixaxis controller?

>>58084747
there are some mods on t430/t420 s/non-s too.
some has qhd screens. wtf
qhd on 14"

>>58084537
If you want maximum life, get a 44++ 9-cell. Medium life, 44+ 6-cell. Shit life, 44 4-cell.

All will be better than your dying one. Buy new ones from Amazon or ebay. Used is asking for shit life.

is there a reason as to why my x230s battery life is so much worse in Ubuntu then it is in Windows I literally lose about 4 hours with the 9cell battery in Ubuntu

>>58084777
see, all that is dope as hell and i love that people are pulling off these wacky mods. but you gotta decide how deep into a $150 laptop from 2011 you're willing to get.

me? i'll pop out the TN and put in a 768p IPS if there's a deal on the panel since it just needs a screwdriver, but soldering in a board is a bit much

or put a quad in that t420 bro! MOST people don't need any better than the 2520m it came with, but hell it's simple enough to do

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Recently purchased an x1 carbon from microcenter for $450 factory refurbished. My first thinkpad, did i do well? I bought the usb 3.0 ethernet adapter from amazon for $15 and the laptop itself is touchscreen, I'm just wondering if I should maybe bring it back and exhange it for something else you guys would recommend

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>>58084928

>>58084928
looks like tape over the trackpad

>>58084227
>youre not gonna get better speeds when youre putting msata through pata
Yes, you're still bottlenecked by the interface of course. But you get the other benefits of an SSD and you'll have an easier time finding an mSATA SSD than a PATA HDD that's actually worth paying any money for. What's the point in replacing an ancient, dying drive with another ancient, dying drive?

>>58084840
thank you for the advice. I will look at getting a new 44++ 9 cell battery then. It looks like that alone will be 50% of what I paid for the thinkpad. I should also use this as an opportunity to get an ssd.

>>58085022
FYI, the 9-cell sticks out the back a fair bit. Look at a picture and make sure you're okay with that.
The 6-cell has a small bump on the bottom, and the 4-cell is stock.

>>58084928

that screen is pretty sexy, very nice

>>58085044
Oh, thats what I currently have in mine right now. Must have been pretty old/shitty then because my charge doesn't last very long unless I turn the brightness extremely low (normally I have it on like 80% brightness).

>>58084950
Most of the computer is made of carbon fiber apparently. The track pad is kinda shit but i mostly use a usb mouse so eh

>>58085172
it looks like someone put an aftermarket protective wrap sticker on the palmrest and over the trackpad itself. maybe the trackpad sensitivity will improve if you peel it off

despite the fact that literally everything about the 2014 x1 is what /tpg/ hates about modern thinkpads (chicklet kb with the infamous psycho layout, the fucking macbook pro touch bar, touch trackpoint buttons), def. keep it if you like it. maybe some dork will see it out in public and have a violent mental breakdown and you'll have some sweet greentext to post

>>58085044
I really like the 9-cell when I'm carrying the laptop around

>>58085374
I have no issue with it either. I was just informing the guy in case he wasn't aware.
Some people are against bulging laptops

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Is the THICCpad a rare commodity?

There's a Thinkpad G40 on sale near me for $35

Could I sell it to some fag collector for a lot more than that?

cleaning the speaker grils of a t420?

>>58085642
Nah
Got mine maxed out with acessories and P4 EE for 65$

Theyre definitely a more rare model, but not rare enough nor old enough to appeal to hipsters

what's some neat shit to do with the pcei slot?

>>58085863
pciexpress?
maybe put some usb3, card reader, esata, egpu etc

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Just bought a T420 off ebay for $190. Joining the family soon, boys.

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>>58059109
get a laptop that doesn't have one of the worst screens ever produced

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>>58059109
>>58086395

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so the x200 and the x200s are the exact same size and weight
what is the difference between them?

>>58086453
>what is the difference between them?
they aren't the exact same size and weight

>>58086635
from lenovo's website
x200:
>Width: 295mm (11.6 in)
>Depth: 234 mm (9.2 in)
>Height: 21 to 35mm (0.8 to 1.4 in)
x200s:
>Width: 295mm (11.6 in)
>Depth: 234 mm (9.2 in)
>Height: 21 to 35mm (0.8 to 1.4 in)

>>58086672
you've been had

ThinkPad X200 System:
Without UltraBase (with 4 or 6 cells battery):
Width: 295mm (11.6 in)
Depth: 210mm (8.3 in)
Height: 21 to 35mm (0.8 to 1.4 in)
Without UltraBase (with 9 cells battery):
Width: 295mm (11.6 in)
Depth: 234 mm (9.2 in)
Height: 21 to 35mm (0.8 to 1.4 in)
Configured system weight (with battery):
4 cells battery: Starting from 1.35kg (2.98 lb)
6 cells battery: Starting from 1.48kg (3.26 lb)
9 cells battery: Starting from 1.64kg (3.61 lb)
ThinkPad X200s System:
Without UltraBase (with 4 or 6 cells battery):
Width: 295mm (11.6 in)
Depth: 210mm (8.3 in)
Height: 21 to 29mm (0.8 to 1.1 in)
Without UltraBase (with 9 cells battery):
Width: 295mm (11.6 in)
Depth: 234 mm (9.2 in)
Height: 21 to 35mm (0.8 to 1.4 in)
Configured system weight (with battery):
4 cells battery: Starting from 1.1kg (2.43 lb)
6 cells battery: Starting from 1.23kg (2.71 lb)
9 cells battery: Starting from 1.38kg (3.05 lb)

>>58086775
and to make it more legible...

ThinkPad X200 System:
>Without UltraBase (with 9 cells battery):
Width: 295mm (11.6 in)
Depth: 234 mm (9.2 in)
Height: 21 to 35mm (0.8 to 1.4 in)
>Configured system weight (with battery):
9 cells battery: Starting from 1.64kg (3.61 lb)

ThinkPad X200s System:
>Without UltraBase (with 9 cells battery):
Width: 295mm (11.6 in)
Depth: 234 mm (9.2 in)
Height: 21 to 35mm (0.8 to 1.4 in)
>Configured system weight (with battery):
9 cells battery: Starting from 1.38kg (3.05 lb)

there's also a difference in height (29mm vs 35mm) when using a 6-cell battery

Elitebook 8470p or 2570p?

Trying to decide between 12.5 inch and 14 inch.
I want the smaller size, but the touchpad also looks too small so I'm worried.

>>58083495
But that t420 won't have 8threads, 3+ghz, 8gb ram, and am ssd (though to be fair, the ram and ssd dont cost anything extra and I could put them in the tp)

About to pull the trigger buying T430 with 1600*900 display for ~$270. Am I making the right decision?

Coming from someone who used Edge E420S for the last 5 years, what should I expect?

>>58087324
nor would a laptop with a laptop with an i7 2620m

why is typing on an x20 keyboard so damn satisfying?

>>58087722
I know, right?

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>>58087324
But T430 would.

>>58079615
>>58079662

4200m T420 here, this is not true. Optimus works as intended from the start and the nvidia gpu stays disabled if it's not running any of its assigned software.

>>58087707
You're right, I mistyped the model in ark, my apologies

>>58087901
Damn, nice lappy.

Sorry for the shitpost, small question. Currently on a macbook air from school - 2011 model, i7-2677M 1.8ghz, 4gb ram.

Would an i5 2520M 4gb x220 be a performance increase, decrease, or neither, strictly in regards to multi-tab web browsing?

>>58089085
Why not an elitebook 8470p, you could upgrade to an i7 3740qm and enjoy really good performance from an actual quad core processor with hyperthreading.

>>58079373
you can shut off the discrete graphics in the BIOS

I need a new laptop after the hell that is called HP Pavilion g6. I really want to get a ThinkPad, but I am on a somewhat strict budget.

I can afford about 650$ atm.

Is it possible to find an ok ThinkPad for that price?

I write much text and play simple indie games, want long battery time.

>that one guy who buys you x201 and requests a refund because he cant fucking activate the windows key, install drivers by himself, and thinks the battery life is a little too short for his liking.

My friend has a Latitude E4310.
Is it possible to install a mSATA ssd in it? Or is 2.5" the only option?
Also is it SATA 2 or 3?

>>58090132
what is google?

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>>58089939
You should get a t430.
You can cut your budget in half and be satisfied.

>>58090480
Thanks!

Do you know what to look for especialy when buying a used ThinkPad? Or are they almost indestructible?

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Hey I'm looking for something and think here is the right place to ask.

I need a convertible, like the x220/320t, but with at least a full-hd screen.

Do you know any alternatives?
Something like the x320t in 1080p.

I would even consider a minor step down in overall build quality. Given that my budget is only between 300 - 350€.

Build quality > Screen > Battery > Stylus > CPU/GPU > Weight

Thanks in advance.

Should I flash Core-/Libreboot on my X230 or is it just neckbeards hype?

>>58090734
>1080p
<ThinkPad
I'm afraid there are no TP's with 1080p and 300-350 €budget.

friends, it's only a few weeks now

>>58090530
Avoid any with bios locks, look for plastic chips around hinges, dead spots on the screen, avoid listings for "grade c" or lower.

Withthat high of a budget you can drop the extra 20-30$ to get one in grade A condition or one that was cosmetically refurbed

I bought my boss his T410 for 140$, which is high as fuck but it had zero scratches, scuffs, chips or anything else on it. Looked practically new

>>58091025
It must not be necessarily a thinkpad, just something business grade or similar build quality.

The budget is somewhat flexible but not by that much. I would look for something used and I have time, so I can wait for a good deal.

>>58084543
mng there is a pepe lineart on the pcb

>>58061608
It's fine, I have a w530 and the weight doesn't bug me.

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Looking to get a eGPU for this old thing.
It's already 7/8 years old and I know it's irrational, but I see it as a little project.

I'm going to hook it up via the exprescard slot (http://www.gearbest.com/laptop-accessories/pp_229102.html)

Anyone any suggestion which gpu I should buy for it?

i got my €120 x220, perfect quality and battery about 50%

there was also a free smartcard reader in the extress card slot, can i do something with it?

>>58087324
well of course a $90 thinkpad wouldn't come with that but you'd also get a mint chassis, better keyboard and clit mouse plus like you said all the other stuff can be added in for free AND all you'd have to do then is buy a new cpu if you were so inclined
I don't see why you're so inundated with keeping your old one

Anyway how bad an idea is it to buy a 1tb msata ssd for my t420? I want to seed muh torrents and also speed it up buuuuuuuuuut I feel like the wiser investment is putting a new hdd in my pc as it's always on (and so is my laptop)

>>58092262
>Anyway how bad an idea is it to buy a 1tb msata ssd for my t420

Yeah pretty bad. No idea what would drive you to do that, except having too much cash and nothing better to spend it on.

>>58092309
Yeah i'm being dumb. For the same price I could get a 2tb internal for my pc, upgrade to 8gb ram and get a kingdian msata ssd

>>58059619
T430s has soldered CPU, so don't buy if you want to upgrade it. It also has worse battery life and doesn't support a slice battery. Other than that, it's the same.

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>>58080848
Not mine but I love pic related

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thinkpad 13 opinions
should I go for it? That usb-c seems convincing af, plus it just seems to be a more modern x1

>>58093150
Looks like a crappy chinese knockoff of a real ThinkPad

>>58077668
Put Windows back on it for resale if getting paid matters. You might find other or correct Thinkpad recovery media on torrent sites.

Should I go for Core-/Libreboot?

>>58081900
Any in a VM, then decide which you like and boot live USB, if like results, install from the USB you created. I use Rufus when loading USB flash drives on Windows hosts.

>>58083667
You can sell it. Remove the junk hard drive then boot it off a live CD/DVD (cheaper than using USB flash tho that runs much faster) to demo it or take pics for Ebay.

FalconFour is a cool multiboot troubleshooting .iso or use Linux Mint etc.

Live media is a great way to prove notebooks work.

>>58090988
If you do not NEED to change BIOS then there's no reason to change it. Does your current machine do what you want? Yes or no.

Never forget that autists live in terror of their machine being compromised when true security means you have nothing to compromise in the first place.

If you REALLY care about security you leave nothing requiring protection on any computer anywhere. Boot a live Linux or BSD for online banking or shopping, and use whatever on your hard drive for non-secure work.

>>58093150
Isn't it made of aluminium or some shit? If so, that's mildly interesting.

I have to buy a new battery /tpg/. I'm on my T420s and the battery just died on me (won't hold a charge). I looked on the Lenovo website and found the 81+ for $120, but the same one on ebay for $35. The seller seems trustworthy enough. What's recommended?

Link:
http://www.ebay.com/itm/81-Plus-Battery-For-Lenovo-Thinkpad-T420S-T420Si-42T4847-42T4846-0A36287-0A36309-/271911984751?hash=item3f4f379e6f:g:S5MAAOSwqYBWoyLj

>>58094292
I recently got a new 9 cell for mine. Fine so far but it's an off-brand chink battery so it's probably going to blow up on my nuts in about three months

t420 or t510?

>>58094520
By fine do you mean like, fine for a chink battery, or fine in terms of standard quality?

>>58094561
I mean like it works and hasn't died yet. Lasts for maybe six or eight hours with some web browsing and school stuff, don't know how long it will keep the charge though. I usually keep it plugged in anyway

>>58094624
Do you have a link for me anon? I use my laptop on the bus all the time, kinda can't keep it plugged in :'(

>>58094652
I got it off some European ebay site because Amazon wouldn't deliver batteries. EU here I should mention

>>58094682
Alright, I'll just go for the one I found on ebay. Thanks for the advice anon

>>58092184
Which country are you from where they sell these so dirt cheap?
I'm from Austria and I haven't seen any X220 below €250 in the shittiest configuration.

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Hello /g
i h just recieved my Tkp X220
Look awesome
I would like a to know if this could be userfull
https://www.amazon.fr/KALEA-INFORMATIQUE-Controleur-EXPRESSCARD-SUPERSPEED-Affleurante/dp/B0083I317A

How "worn" do these screens look?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/132040293147
http://www.ebay.com/itm/142218877605

X220 with
I7-2620m
16gb ram
160ssd
3g modem
240$
Is it good /g/? Will arrive tomorrow

So why do people want the X220 instead of let's say the X230?

>>58096079
Until fairly recently people didn't know about changing the keyboard. For the average user the performance difference is not worth worrying about and they're roughly 70 dollars cheaper.
If you play games on the iGPU you need the X230 though.

>>58096079
So you can put the X220 Keyboard into a X230 easily?

>>58095504
Sweden. I thought the same, since I saw them go for ~€350 and stuff. You just gotta find the right site, for me it was a swedish auction site "tradera". They go for 120-150 for basic models.

Mine was a 2520m/4gb/300gb hdd machine but I had 8gb ram around anyways.

>>58095864
a bit high but good if the battery is good.

>>58096079
33%-50% more money for a ~15% better CPU
Add another 30 bucks for a x220 keyboard for that 15% cpu.

>>58096177
>>58096403
Tanks a lot.