Is /g/ interested in the upcoming Ubuntu 17.04? >Swap fi

Why is it not 17.0?

>>58086315
The version number is based off the date. 17 is the year, 04 is the month.

>>58086315
They release versions biannually in the Year.Month format. That is why you'll always see them ending in .04 or .10.

>>58086303
>>Swap files instead of Swap partitions
about fucking time

and I'll still use it with Gnome or MATE

Will it actually have Unity 8 this time, or is it going to be a repeat of last time where it's not ready again?

>>58086303
Literally nothing worthwhile is going to be added this release.

>>58086501
Unity 8 will definitely not be ready for at least 2 more releases.

I'll give it a bit to see if there's any major bugs in it before considering an upgrade. I'm on the LTS version right now.

>>58086303
>Swap files instead of Swap partitions
Windows has had this for literally decades.

Welcome to 1980, Linux. There's still a lot of catching up to do.

>>58086732
nice b8

distro hop more bitch

OP is a faggot

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>>58086752
Fact, m8. Not b8.

>>58086732
So what's the advantage? If you stilll need swap space (unlikely on a modern machine), isn't it more efficient to talk directly to a partition instead of calling through the fs?
Protip: install gentoo

>>58086501
>unity 8
hahahaha

might as well be waiting for Upstart, Mir and whatever other hare-brained Canonical garbage they want to push next

>>58086732
>Windows has had this for literally decades.
Linux has literally had this for decades as well

>>58086303
>Unity
Why would anyone be interested in that?

>>58088526
Because it's the future

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cWLgY-2bZZM
Enjoy loading screens on your calculator “app”

>>58086325
>>58086343

Two friendly answers from Linux users right after eachother.

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>>58088321
At least check your facts doggo.

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It's not even LTS you dumbfucks if you are not doing dist-upgrading to use it then you're just distro hopping without knowing what you are doing.

>>58088760
jesus christ how horrifying

>>58086303
>Swap files instead of Swap partitions
Good thing. Swap files can be dynamically adjusted, swap partitions cannot.

>More of the Snap packaging system
Great.

>Unity 8
Meh, I download Xfce anyway.

I don't see the point of the ubuntu releases which is not LTS.
They do not have the same support as LTS releases, you have to install them way more often as ubuntu still doesn't have a way to upgrade where you actually save time.

Switching to swap files instead of swap partitions is a technical difference, but I don't really agree with it. Most people have so much RAM, they do not need any.

>Mir
Absolute garbage.
Fuck you, Canonical. Trying to be special snowflakes.

>>58088785
At least RH have some competition even if they always give up the race.

>>58088802
This isn't a situation where competition is good.
Wayland is not tied to Redhat. It's a fresh start from X11, and had developers from lots of different places.
One of the most prominent developers near the start was actually Intel.

Now Canonical has come along and just fragmented shit for absolutely no reason.

Install Gentoo

It's not LTS so I won't be using it unless Unity 8 graces us with its presence, and even then I'll only use it in a VM to decide how shit Unity 8 is.

Not fussed about snaps either way.

>>58086668
i installed 16.10 on my spare laptop a week or so and set it up with unity 8 dev preview etc. It's so far from ready its not even funny. not to mention part of me wonders if it should even be worked on at all considering their current design goals. I can see unity 8 being what windows 8 was to its users in terms of ui.

>>58088985
How on earth is it that divorced from Unity 7 in form and function?

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>>58086303
>watching the vid
my fuck, unity is still pretty much horrible
why are they wasting their time like this?
a button with a menu overlay is pretty easy, people already know it from phones, and looks clean

why all these stupid transitions and slideout menus?! it is like they are trying to evolve a paradigm that was already abandoned by everyone years ago

does it work on steam-powered computers?

no
it has no games

>>58086303
>Swap files instead of Swap partitions
The Architect installer has been doing it for ages

>>58089184
>>>/v/

>>58086303
>Menu bar in the title bar
OK, Unity has my attention

Snap is pretty cool desu
Just that no one will support it and eventually red hat will create systemd packages that everyone will adopt for no reason.

how does ubuntu compare to lubuntu in terms of out of the box compatability? i find i have a fair few issues with lubuntu that i dont with windows, mainly stuff like ftp not sending files with non standard letters (like the e in pokemon)

>>58089761
They are exactly the same but with different default installed desktop environments. Stop being a stupid retard.

>>58089761
lubuntu is just ubuntu with a different DE, you'll have exactly the same issues

sounds like you need to just install microsoft fonts desu

>>58086363
>>58086732
>>58088523
Wouldn't it make more sense to have swap space as a separate partition that multiple OS's can use?

>>58088828
>wayland is not tied to red hat
Formally no, but de facto yes.

>>58090067
Just because Fedora was first to do Wayland by default, it doesn't mean that it's tied to Red Hat.
You've been able to use Wayland on other distros quite easily for a while.

>>58086303
You've always been able to set up a swap file in linux. Swap partitions are better.

>>58086303
so are there nvidia drivers for Mir yet? or am i just supposed throw away my gaymen gpu?

>>58086303
>Swap files instead of Swap partitions

wow it's fucking nothing

you could do that since forever

dd if=/dev/zero of=kek.swp bs=2M count=512
mkswap kek.swp
swapon kek.swp

The only limit is that the file must not be fragmented.

>>58090085
I'm not reffering specifically about fedora or other distros, but for the fact that Wayland was developed against the capacities of the Linux kernel in detriment for the other Unices.
Lots of interesting advances, sadly, are being doing for Linux disregarding POSIX and shit.

>>58090187
How?

>>58088605
Appreciating that.

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>>58089872
>Wouldn't it make more sense to have swap space as a separate partition that multiple OS's can use?
Yes, that's why it's done

>>58090547
But why? All of my OS's can use the same swapfile.sys just fine, thank you very much.

>>58086303
>Swap files instead of Swap partitions
The only thing good, the rest is shit, SHIT

>>58086303

I am i love Ubuntu but there a lot of problem with it i just hope it will be less resource intensive.

It's also the only Distro that have a Global menu that isn't shit.

>>58091385

True is there a single OS that have global menu that isn't shit so i can stop using unity ?

>>58086303
Will it resolve the crackling issue with linux and my dell laptop? It fucking sucks when the speakers are crackling constantly in the background unless I mute them.

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Welcome to 1977, shitnux.

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>>58086303

>in next year
>guys, you ready for ubuntu 17.10?
>come with Unity 8
>in 2018
>guy, ready for ubuntu 1x.xx?
>come finally with Unity 8
>in 2020
>II II II II II
>come with unity 8

>>58089761
In terms of programs like FTP, no difference.

However I have tried every flavor of Ubuntu, and I find Unity to be by far the best, with a perfect balance of features and smooth usability/stability.

Runner up would have to be MATE. I might have gone with it instead except for the fact that I'm now addicted to global topmenu, the Dash, and HUD.

>>58090335
That's what the EGLStream stuff is for.

>>58086303
>Swap files instead of Swap partitions
how is this new?
you can still make a swap file without a dedicated partition

>>58092944
>with a perfect balance of features and smooth usability/stability.
I like how you consider stability to be a thing that needs to be ‘balanced’.

Last time I tried unity it was such a monumentally buggy piece of shit that constantly locked itself up in increasingly hilarious ways

>>58094578
It's new in that they added a checkbox for it during the installer. You have to realize that Ubuntu users are literally incapable of setting anything up unless there's a GUI checkbox for it

Tile WM's BTFO

>>58088828
>Wayland is not tied to Redhat.
Do you honestly believe this?

>touch friendly ui
>hey guys, you can now swipe notifications using a mouse


Will it ever end?

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>>58086303
>>Swap files instead of Swap partitions
Not as eficient and can't be shared by two operating systems. Fuck that.
>>More of the Snap packaging system
Meh.
>>Unity 8
Amazon botnet.

>>58088828
>Wayland is not tied to Redhat.
You can't be this out of the loop, can you?

Wayland is almost entirely a Red Hat construction (like systemd, GNOME/Gtk etc. AKA every other source of terrible developer elitism and bugs-as-features)

>>58091421
Gnome.

>>58089512
Back to your hugbox SJW >>>/g/fglt/