Linux Mint 18.1

>>58059972
I use 18.0 because I'm a lazy shit

>>58060008
you can upgrade in ~7 minutes
install all updates you have rn then click "edit" in your new update manager "upgrade to 18.1 serena"

a few new wallpapers is all i've noticed, you can also put panel on the side now if you're weird like that

>>58059972
A LEAF

A FUCKING LEAF

>>58059972

You should try LMDE.

If I need to use GNU/Linux I'm using Xubuntu 16.04, that's the best """""just-werks""""" distro.

I tried it and it looks like the same shit from 2 years ago. What's even new about it?

>>58060150
it's .1 better than 18

>>58060147
>not Xubuntu 16.10 the latest version
Are you asleep at the wheel there m8? Keep up

>installing a distribution that had its website hacked and installation ISO files replaced with compromised botnet ones
>installing a distribution without any security advisories
no thanks

>>58060133
You mean that thing the developers themselves don't recommend and are about to drop completely?

>>58060026
That's not possible yet.

I migrated from Windows on one of my laptops to Mint. The hardware on the laptop was never very good to begin with, but it seems to run fine. My very first Linux and I'm enjoying it.

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>>58060232
i did it earlier this morning, no way i would have 3k packages on clean install g

>>58060208
Really? You got a source on that? I pesonally use Debian, but recommended LMDE over it because it's more friendlier to beginners.

>>58060353
ubuntu has like 2000+ packages out of the box

>>58060181
>>installing a distribution that had its website hacked and installation ISO files replaced with compromised botnet ones

Pics or it didn't happen

>>58060147
xubuntu is dank as well. cinnamon is really pretty but kinda taxing if you have older pc

>>58060160
16.04 is the most recent "lts" ubuntu

>>58060411

come hack me bro. i don't care if their website got hacked and a few people clicked a link that directed them to a corrupted iso hosted on a different webpage altogether

only ever torrent .iso's if you're scared of that

>>58060411
Literally your first day on /g/
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=2994

>>58060411
use your favorite internet search engine faggot

>>58060440
>If you downloaded via torrent or HTTP, then it doesn't affect you.

Then how the fuck did it affect ANYONE?

>>58060385
roughly 2200 i have a clean install on my secondary laptop

but i upgraded, you can absolutely upgrade today
http://blog.linuxmint.com/?p=3185

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>>58059972
>rig
>rocking

Why would you use this over Ubuntu

Cinnamon isn't even that good. Half those applets either work like ass or don't work at all..

>>58060465
The torrents and mirrors were uncompromised. You only had to worry if you got the one that linux mint hosts.

>>58060492
>Half those applets either work like ass or don't work at all..

You just explained Linux.

>>58060181
>not verifying hash signatures
>being this stupid

>>58060492
honestly because I've been using it since 17.1 on same install and it works fine. It works much better than Ubuntu MATE and Kubuntu have for me on my desktop, and I refuse to use any distro that isn't 100 pct compatible with Ubuntu because I need the huge community support if i fuck my shit up

let's say my ssd fries tomorrow... i might give xubuntu a spin on the next one, but I have too much shit on my computer to be compelled to switch

>>58060539
Hashes were also modified, so the fake ISO would have given you a matched MD5. This is why they moved to GPG along with stronger checksums like SHA256.

>>58060492
Are you from 2012? Cinnamon 3.2 on Mint has reached a very good level of maturity. Fuck, is even better than KDE/Plasma.

>>58060559
their website got hacked on one day, not even a full 24 hours was the bad link up, and everyone knew about it the day after.

it doesn't speak to the integrity of the actual OS

>>58060353
>>58060469
Thanks for the info. Somehow I can't see it in the update manager (yet).

It comes pre-configured and you can't rice it, so /g/ doesn't like it

>>58060582
>better than KDE/Plasma.
Not much of an accomplishment.

>>58060715
I know. But still. Considering plasma has been in development since 8 years ago with more people involved and money and is an unfixable failure. Cinnamon is a well made piece of software.

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>>58059972
>>elegant
>>beautiful
>>best

>>58059972
>I am the first person on /g/ whose rig is currently rocking 18.1
No I set it up on a VM last night. I didn't even know a new version was out lel.

>install it on my dad's laptop
>the installation won't run
>google it, somehow it downloads with improper md5sum kek
>download again
>installs
>it won't shutdown
Everything works but it won't fucking shutdown without forcing it with physical power button. Linux, everyone!
>inb4 you're a retard
Nothing to do with clicking next on a freshly formatted harddrive.

i want to like it but its a buggy piece of shit

>>58060582

I tried Mint this year and I couldn't get some applets to work because "they weren't updated to work with newer versions".

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>>58059972
Install Debian. A word for you:

>superior

>>58060844
sudo halt

What are some nice themes compatible with Cinnamon 3.2?

>>58061019
Do they still not include any wifi support in the default kernel?

>>58061118
It's still laughable it won't do that through GUI, considered its selling point is noob users for daily tasks.

>>58061142
Works for me. :^)

>>58061135
>any wifi support
my Atheros wifi works on a default Debian install. Which is amazing because its the legendary AR5BWB222 which lags/disconnects on every windows 8.1+ driver ever released.

Linux Noob here.

Just installed 18.1 this morning. Having graphics problems now that I never had with 18. When I install the Nvidia 340 drivers and reboot i get some message about rollback mode and restarting.

The internet told me to install the latest 375 drivers but even after adding the repository I don;t have the option to install. Is my card just too old for 375 (GeForce G210M)?

How much of a performance decrease can I expect with the open source drivers?

>>58062588
>i get some message about rollback mode and restarting
Your desktop environment crashed. Are you sure this is related to your graphics? Might be a theme which isn't compatible to the new DE version as well. You should try the nouveau driver.

>>58060765

Plasma 5 is decent, the only problem is that it's still early beta quality software because KDE wasted all of their time with Plasma 4.

>>58063064
Pretty sure its driver related. Everything was fine before I updated the driver. Everything is back to the way it was originally including the nouveau driver now.

I'm not planning on doing anything really graphics intensive but ideally I would like the Nvidia driver working. Especially as it was working with 18 and the same DE last night.

>>58063605
I see. I'd check the Linux Mint IRC channel and the forums.

>>58060026
Does it wipe your system or just upgrade it?

>>58063582
While I use plasma5, I think kde4 was better.
They have fixed a lot of stuff, but they also removed a lot of functionality, that I thought was core functionality.
Eg, they basically removed widgets and the ones they wrote themselves are unusable.
It is still 50 years ahead of the other desktops thanks to krunner, so I will use it until someone figures out how to make a portable launcher that works as good as krunner.

I have mint 18. If I put a file on the desktop it doesn't align it to the grid unless I right click and select the align function. How do make it auto align?

>>58064463
It is an upgrade. You will not lose any files or installed programs.

>>58064631
Right-click your desktop and mark the checkbox that is besides "Keep Aligned".

>>58060026
Not showing up. This guy is a BIG FAT PHONY.

>>58064731
Choose another mirror.

>>58064793
Which one did you use?

>>58061019
this desu

>>58064793
>>58064812
pls respond

>>58064812
>>58064958
Try "Linux Mint" (located in the USA).

>>58064986
Still not seeing any update options. Only have 3 options on edit even after enabling unstable packages. I'm using Cinnamon btw.

>>58065047
Did you refresh everything? You don't need to enable unstable packages.

>>58065113
I did, updated cache, refreshed everything. Not getting anything, and I'm on Linux Mint 18.

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>>58059972
I upgraded.

NICE!

PS: it's asking me to update the kernel but the kernel number is the same as I have. Anyone know wtf that means?

>>58065159
What about the update manager? You should get the packages mintupdate and mint-upgrade-info.

>>58065202
I'm not seeing those either. Does the base mirror matter too?

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>>58065165

>PS: it's asking me to update the kernel but the kernel number is the same as I have. Anyone know wtf that means?

It means you should move to a distro that isn't broken by design

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>>58061019

>Debian

>>58064602
Krunner is not part of plasma. So it's ironic.

>>58065250
>dat butthurt
stay mad

My wife's son told me Mint is shit and that I should just install Ubuntu or Debian instead

Now I don't know what to believe

>>58066066
Stay comfy.

>>58059972
I'll install it when I get my new hard drive. Currently on Xubuntu and I miss a few things from Mint.

Currently running Ubuntu with Cinnamon on it. What would convince me to switch?

LINUX from scratch.
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How's this?

Why is Ubuntu the only distro that doesn't look like barf out of the box? I'm genuinely curious; I'm trying to get my feet wet with linux but can't stand the tacky themes.
At the same time, ricing looks like too much work.

>>58066531
>Unity doesn't look good at all. If you don't want to waste time with ricing just install arc-theme.

>>58066624
blessed

>>58061130
Arc
Boje if you're a darkfag

I thought about upgrading to 18.1, i installed manjaro instead

>>58066288

How can anybody be comfy with so much lies and misinformation flying around? The only non-meme distro seems to be Slackware at this point

What are the performance improvements on a rig with (whatever variety of ) Linux installed as opposed to Windows 7 installed? Have any of you tested this? Is the purpose of going with a variety of Linux over Windows to gain performance or to gain an illusion of privacy? Make a definitive argument why a Windows user should drop Windows and go with Linux. I remain unconvinced currently.

Can anyone help me with this stupid question...
I'm booting Linux mint from a usb to learn my way around Linux but none of my settings or any data save. How do you make anything actually save?

>>58061019
Debian has been shit for the past year or so. As far as I know, Maxwell GPUs still don't work OOTB. I also had a bunch of stability issues with the Mate desktop.

Having both of those issues puts you in a conundrum. You can install Jessie and have a somewhat better experience with Mate, but then my Maxwell card won't work because nvidia-driver in Jessie is ancient. If I install Stretch, I get a shitty crashy Mate desktop.

Before nvidia-driver in Stretch was updated, it was a clusterfuck getting Maxwell drivers to work. At first you could just pull the package from experimental (the driver in Sid was still too old). Then one of the Debian devs fucked something up and said "whoops you can't do that anymore because the new Nvidia driver is incompatible with some other component". So if you had a Maxwell card, Debian just wouldn't work at all. Then the dev apparently resolved the issue, but then when I tried to update the packages something massively fucked up and I couldn't get Debian to boot at all.

The whole experience kind of jaded me and I ended up switching to Mint. It's not as fast, and it has much more package bloat, but at least it just werks.

>>58071125
you install it on your HDD

>>58071125
You need to create a usb flash drive with persistent storage.

New slideshow for random backgrounds now blends images as the transition. Such a small thing to add but it makes a huge difference if you have a lot of wallpapers and like them to rotate. Nice.

>>58071251
Back in 2015, I installed debian on a pc with a 980ti. I was under the impression that, because Steam OS was Debian based, that linux games would work better on Debian. It took forever, and a lot of additional reading on forums, but I got the linux drivers, which I downloaded from Nvidia's website (not the packaged ones for Debian), to work, and I figured out the installation process for Steam (again, not the packaged version specifically for the distro). I wrote down all the steps, and saved them, but they got deleted in an OSX update. And then I discovered that Valve tells linux developers to develop for Ubuntu. Don't fuck with Debian, there is no point.

I am waiting for Bomi to support Xenial.

>>58075646
Compile it.

>>58071251
>As far as I know, Maxwell GPUs still don't work OOTB.

Of course not, you need the proprietary firmware for full functionality. Nouveau will not work 2D acceleration in Maxwell right now.

Though, after installing the drivers, you should be able to use them well enough.

>>58075104
Yes, it's nice, but conky fucks it up.

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>>58065267
kekd hard

>>58060379
frankendebian

/g/ got 99 problems, but Mint ain't one.

How much space do you need for a fresh install?

>>58077422
>conky
I found it way too distracting and removed it years ago. I have a system monitoring applets in task bar/panel and have it on auto hide so it doesn't distract me. conky's cool but it distracts

>>58079855
Cinnamon needs like 10 GiB, but make sure you have some space for further programs.
>>58080652
Which applet are you using for system monitoring?

>>58080701
>Cinnamon needs like 10 GiB,
WTF are you on, anon? I run Arch with Cinnamon and it takes 800MB installed (lots of wallpapers etc).

For a comparison, GNOME 3 takes around 2.5GB and MATE around 1.2GB.

>>58061269
>using the smiley with a carat nose

>>58081269
I was referring to a fresh install of Linux Mint 18.1 Cinnamon.

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Xubuntu yakkety on the workstation for min hassle / max comfy & werks™.

Arch / xmonad on the memebook for max overrice & impressing the shy nerdy qt in class.

You insolent dorks and your shitty meme distros can blow me baka tbqh onii-senpai.

>>58081623
ah, ok.

>>58081651
LM has good shit from Ubuntu and none of the garbage shit.

>>58081473
>Not being paid by the NSA to spread disinformation on 4chan ;^)

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>>58081651
well meme'd my friend

>>58081699
So does xubuntu, except it also gets regular security and package updates unlike m*nt.

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>>58059972
>definitely the best Operating System for the personal computer
>Mint
I agree if you mean for normies OP, but git gud.

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>>58081751
Mint gets all the security updates. Name a single CVE that Linux Mint is susceptible to. Go ahead, find just one! Prove to me that LM is insecure. Just spouting out FUD doesn't cut it, kid.

>>58061135
Only software I've had problems with ootb is nonfree fw for my dl380g5 server.
I stuck a belkin wireless adapter in it to download them and it worked just fine.

>>58059972
I tried it yesterday on a virtual machine
ran like butt, baleeted

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>>58081798
Its susceptible af to me wrecking ur mom's pussy faggit.

>>58060181
That was a thing that happened for less than 12 hours.. Your nump.

>>58081854
Most VMs in Windows run like shit unless you get down and dirty to make your VM run smoothly.
QXL drivers are a boon, physical GPU passthrough is awesome, giving it better disk drivers to use make it faster to load up and speed up program startup.

Most likely it was a poor default "one size fits all" VM config that made it feel slow.

I'd recommend finding some semi decent hardware to put it on a see how it feels on bare metal before passing judgement on software.

>>58059972
(you)
please go away cuck

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>>58081883
>all that empty talk...
post the CVEs already, you retarded mongoloid! let's see them.

Calm down. The C in Cinnamon is for comfy.