AMD Ryzen

>>58056830
SR5. I have only 300$ for cpu and I wanna get a decent one.

Intel + Nvidia, it is the only way to have trouble-free experience.

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>>58056844
>Nvidia "trouble-free experience"
>Registering to use display drivers

>>58056830
if it beats my 6700k and cheaper why not?

>>58056888
The trips speak truth

>>58056830
First of all, Ryzen is a terrible name to the degree that I refuse to call it that, let's just stick to Zen.

I don't know which Zen CPU I'll likely end up buying since we have no idea what kind of configurations will be available and how much they will cost.

If AMD goes way below Intel price-wise for similar performance then I'll probably get one. If they just go slightly cheaper then Intel then I might as well keep my current motherboard/CPU/RAM a while longer.

I'm also very curious what the motherboards will look like and how they will be priced.

>>58056830
im not buying this pajeet garbage and so should you however i will emberace a price lowering from intel.

>>58057345
>pajeet garbage
>beats your shit at a lower price
nice meme

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>>58056830
>tfw going full AMD next year when VEGA gets released

Probably the equilevant to Intel's i5 or i7, now to hope that it's priced well, i'm running a crappy i7 930 so i'm fine with any upgrade right about now.

>>58056830
I need as many threads as I can get for xSplit so I'm considering the 8 core if the price is right

I'm actually fairly hype for the APUs.

Do we have an ETA on those yet?

>AYYYYYMD
Never ever. You'll always have some kind of issues with it.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UoXRHexGIok

I'm hoping to get something in the 200€ range, but we'll see what happens.

>>58056830
Ill buy it if i can get 8cores/16threads for 3-400usd and if it overclocks to ~4.5GHz

>>58058017
Well it's good for starters not to remove your cooling solution in general. Pretty weak example you got there.

That's like removing all the cooling liquid from two cars and then put them together as to which one fucks up first.

Might pick up some midrange models to test down at the shop, but it'll be a while before I'll have enough faith in AMD cpus to put them in my own rig.

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Hate the name, is it suppose to be equivalent to phenom? Or there are no numbers at all, and this specific CPU has single name?

>>58056875
>installing goyforce experience
you can install the drivers without their goyforce app

>>58058266
>but it'll be a while before I'll have enough faith in AMD cpus to put them in my own rig

And what exactly do you expect to go possibly wrong that you dont learn from reviews?

what you wrote is really silly and stupid.

>>58058335
They're targeting the Razer crowd.

planning on replacing my 3930k with one if they're solid

if they kinda suck i'll build it up as a linux rig or something

>>58058349
Razers were good-ass phones. Talk shit get hit.

I'll be getting zen and vega, but not on release on either of them. There will undoubtedly be shortages for the first couple weeks to month or more and when they become available again they'll be 10% above initial MSRP for another half a year or so until supply and demand finally evens out. Just look at the 480 release, we didn't see the cards go down to initial MSRP until black friday, and they've still managed to come back up a bit since then.

This is why I'm glad I upgraded my fx 4170/ hd 7870 to a 8320/fury nitro with the black friday deals. With this i cam happily await the release of zen and vega and the inevitable price rollercoaster we're sure to see.

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>>58056830
only the Octa cores version would be released in Q1 while I'm waiting for hexa or the quad core version.

I hat the Ryzen name.
Sounds like a type of bread that combines rhy and raisin that you'd find at one of those stupid trendy bread stores.

>AMD still makes CPU's

Good for them desu

>>58058061
This and if it those 8 cores actually is comparable within 10-15% of an Intel 8 core at the same clock. Then I'd actually go full AMD and realise my plan of having a kvm host with a VM for windows with gpu passthrough. Nvidia went full blown retarded with their no gpu passthrough unless you bought an enterprise card.

>>58058487
I hate the name too
but I kinda like the letters used if that makes sense

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>>58056830
Can finally have a all AMD system for the first time since my Phenom II.
I am going with the highest binned octa core.

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>>58058688
same here, my last AMD was the Phenom 2 955BE

>>58058395
He's talking about the gayzer gaming brand.

>>58058732
I still use my A8 3850, its the bottleneck in my system. Its almost 5 years old now.

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>>58058732
I still use my 1100T in my secondary system.

It was going to be an Atom C2750 but I've pushed the build off long enough that it'll probably be a quad core Zen APUdrive

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>implying a 2500k isn't enough still

I beginning to think we're never going to reach a point where a consumer CPU needs more than that

>>58058017
yeah I can imagine what a hassle it would be if you're the kind of retard that doesn't use a cooler

>>58056830
Can't wait to graduate. Sold my gaming gear on second year due failed first year (thanks gaming). Promised to build new one after graduating.

From
>Phenom II 720 BE + Radeon HD 4850 + 4 GB RAM
to
>Ryzen + whatever is good Radeon then + 16GB RAM

likely for same price. Can't wait.

>>58058487
it's not like the i name is good.

>>58056830
I just updated to a 6600K, and my machine is primarily a gaymen box. When games techology can take advantage of hyper-thread/multi-core better than it can now, hyper-threaded hexacore intel processors will be on the market aimed at consumer level instead of enthusiast/professional tier.

So, I probably won't be getting an AMD cpu anytime soon, unless whatever they bring to the table is finally actually better than what Intel offers.

7600k + 1080 ti or three upcoming volta gpus. Sorry but amd still aren't worthy of my money.

>>58058346
CPU bugs that take months to surface, like last time.

>>58057968

You and me both anon.

>>58058732
this. 1055T and r9 390 combo, feels bad

I want a CPU that can 120fps civ VI for when I buy my 4k120hz monitor wayyyyy in the future, but neither of those don't exist yet.

Still using my 3570k.

>>58056830
Obviously I'm going to dump $1100 on a fucking 6900k OF COURSE I"M WAITING FOR RYZEN YOU FOOL

Oh boy can't wait for Bulldozer again

>>58060113
All we need now is the price of the damn thing, now AMD has got the hype train in full motion they probably think they can sell the damn thing for $999.99. Hell they tried selling their 9590 CPUs at launch for over $900 and now they're under $200.

Do not fall for their hype, wait a bit after launch, look at the benchmarks and wait and see for Intels reaction.

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I just want a CPU that will last me for a 5+ years from now, is it too much to ask for

>>58060118
Yeah Keller's totally known for being brought in only to release a lackluster µarch

>>58060202
AMD can easily fuck up a Keller product.

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>>58056830

Probably Kaby or Skylake depending on how Ryzen affects the price in the next month.

Was going to give it a chance, but then it turned out that you're not getting thunderbolt 3 support on AMD's new AM4 board.

>>58060118
I'm really tempted to just go with 6700k build now, the Ryzen event they sure did cherry pick the games and what was really off putting was they used nVidia cards to do their benchmarks when they fucking had a Vega card right there with them when they tested that star wars game out.

>>58060219
I'll believe it when I see it.

>>58060199
You should be good with a CPU released in the past few years. Hell, my processor's 8 years old (at least, that's just how old the computer itself is) and I'm perfectly content

>>58060175
>Hell they tried selling their 9590 CPUs at launch for over $900 and now they're under $200.

wasn't it before Su? they are somewhat reasonable now, I hope they learned from fiji sales something

>>58060236
>not getting thunderbolt 3 support on AMD's new AM4 board
Does anything actually use any variant of thunderbolt? I haven't seen a single thunderbolt anything, ever. As far as I can tell, it's actually less successful than firewire.

>>58060416
eGPUs, external drives, high bandwidth stuff. It's one port that works for USB C and PCIe 3.0 x4, too bad it's so poorly adopted.

>>58060416
Mostly used with displays, storage drives and NAS, or as a port for a dock.

It uses a mini display port connector btw

>>58060455
Thunderbolt 1 & 2 do, Thunderbolt 3 uses USB C's connector.

>>58056830
Already bought Skylake because I wasn't willing to wait 8 months for Zen. My last PC was a shitheap from 2006.

It's much better but it's amazing how some programs still lag a lot even though my new PC is 30x better.

been out of the news for a while.

when will the new amd platform hit the european markets? im looking for a cheap build for my brother, but I can't believe I'm forced to play at least 75-80 euros for a mini itx 1151 mobo.

>>58056830
>broadwell/haswell IPC
>moar cores xD
>intelligent auto-clocking system
>all our fingers are crossed for a $500 consumer 8 core that hits 4Ghz+ on high end air cooling

Yeah if I had the $8-900 for the parts I'd buy it immediately

>>58060416
Thunderbolt 3 will/can use the same conmector as usb 3.1 (usb c) but it has some differences.

Though I just want to point out that Gigabyte has made a revision to their 990FX platform to add USB-C, so even if we don't see support for thunderbolt 3 standard initially, I wouldn't doubt there are some absolute madmen out there who will find a way to add it in time.

On the subject, it's absolutely nuts how many revisions gigabyte have made to their 990FX boards. Especially considering they didn't really have much competition since the Asus and Asrock boards are pretty shit.

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When are 100-200$ price range zens coming out?
I dont know If i can wait anymore and not buying a skylake i5

>>58058017
That's some ancient chips there.

>>58056830
i7-6950K and never AMD

>>58060504
What programs? And do you have SSD or regular old spin HDD?

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>>58058757
>tfw I lost my thuban to a powersurge
>So I replaced it with an 8350

>>58060504
We're well past the days where the CPU is the single most important piece of hardware in your computer.
Say, for example, if you're loading that program from a hard drive, the cpu will be waiting on the hard drive quite often. Hell we've gotten to the point where SATA 6/gbps isn't fast enough to keep up with the highest end solid state drives. This is why we're starting to see a move toward M.2 and pci-e in the highest end ssd's.
Plus RAM development is stagnating like crazy and the future is in 2.3/3 dimensional memory like that found in samsung's vnand on their ssd's, amd's hbm which is currently only used in the fury cards but has plenty of potential, and intel's xpoint memory.
And a lot of specialized compute loads are starting to be placed on gpu's instead of the cpu thanks to the thousands of cores (or texture units as they're generally reffered to sunce they're nowhere near as complex nore capable as a proper cpu core) which can process certain work loads better than traditional cpu's.

I'm getting ahead of myself though. Point is you're probably bottlenecked by something else.

>>58058766
Normies don't even need a desktop PC anymore.

>>58060560

Asus make the best 990FX boards. At least best if you don't want your vrms to explode when running at 5ghz.

>>58057291
>Ryzen is a terrible name

Why?

>>58056830
The next generation of AMD. I'm fine with my i5 2320 for now. Ah and i want an APU build, those things are cute as fuck for some reason

>>58056844
I have a 760 gtx and i can tell you that you're full of shit

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>>58060755
>Ryzen is a terrible name
>Why?
Heh, he doesn't know.

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>>58060813
You don't either

otherwise your autistism and will to always show people your obscure autist knowledge would force you to tell me

If it costs less than $250 for the CPU then I will consider it but for optimized games my 3570k is still working just fine

>>58060755
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ryazan

>>58056830
can anyone advise me free CPU? really don't know what to buy

>>58056844
intel + intel, you mean

>>58060813
oh look an obese neckbeard with an animuu GF is feigning elitism. How adorable.

>>58058789

Oh boi do I miss my 720 BE. It was unlocked to a 920 and oced to 3.4ghz.

I fell for the FX 4100 meme because it was cheap and less than 2 months I got lucky and grabbed an 8320 for pennies (sold the 4100 and bought they 8320 on sale at almost the same price)

>>58056875
>The /g/'s strawman logic that never applies to real life

Every single time.

>>58060722
Actually we are back at it in 2016. Literally every AAA game ends up being a console port that takes a i7 with HT to prevent bottleneck.

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I'm more interested to see what AMD does with the chipset. The Bulldozer launched with a stale repacking of the previous chipset that aged like fine milk with AMD not providing any revisions and board manufacturers turning to crappy third party chips to add stuff like USB 3.0 support.

>>58062467
That's only really a few stand outs, my i7 860 runs most things at least adequately. But more importantly;
>modern triple A gaymeme

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>>58056830
RYZEN + 1080ti MASTER RACE

I like the ZEN hype, what I don't like is win 10

>>58057968
Unless it ass blasts my e5-1650 v2 clocked at 4300mhz I'll be holding out for zen+. Either way will be getting plenty of hands on experience with it as I'll be working on building zen based systems. Curious to see just how effective their dynamic clocking will be.

>>58056830
This thing is more of AMD's bullshit until we see independent benchmarks.

>>58062593
Pretty much. AMD cpu and Nvidia gpu is the true patrician choice. We should perma ban all ATI Indian niggers from this board though.

Hoping they at least Intel price points with +2 cores. Just want an 8 core around 6700k/5820k prices and I'm golden. But the i5 tiers is where I think the price war will be interesting. Until they land in the UK and the cost advantages dissappear.

>>58062563
Chipsets have me worried, I think they're attached via 4x pcie, which is great for compatibility (think 3rd party cpu on Am4 tier) but does limit combined i/o use. Then again zen is a socket so I'm hoping for an itx boardwithout the need for a Chipset at all.

>>58062618
Doesn't stop you from shilling for 480RX which is worse than 1060 across the aboard except for win10 exclusive DX12 though.

>>58056830
I5 6600k

>>58062775

wat

I don't shill for anyone, I have a stolen radeon 6450

>>58056844
You forget that Nvidia installs telemetry crap with its recent drivers

/g/ is so hypocritical, they keep screaming windows 10 is a botnet stick with windows 7 but when it's time for AMD benchmarks they always bring out DX12 which is only on Win 10.

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>>58062837
AMD's RadeonSettings.exe is botnet by default

whatever happened to zen

>>58062572
Watch dogs 2 with a fx8350 is a nightmare even with a Gtx 1080

>>58062914
Oh lord so both of them are botnetted
Though I'm using the latest Nvidia and never saw the telemetry service run

>>58062744
>zen is a SOC

>>58058017
Now do the same test with AMD GPUs vs Nvidia GPUs; where AMD scales down clocks while Nvidia ones burn up.

>>58059155
7600k is confirmed housefire tier though. Hits 100C if you overclock it due to shit TIM.

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>>58062954

>>58056830
None.

My 4790k @ 4.7ghz will be solid for years to come.

Is the entire north bridge and south bridge on the zen die ???!?

>>58063493
Northbridge has been on AMD's die since FM1 (ignoring the abortion that was Piledriver). The southbridge is still separate from the CPU, but now a few more of its functions have been directly integrated into the CPU itself, like a few SATA ports and USB controllers. The interconnect between the CPU and the southbridge is now a full-on 8 lanes of PCIe Gen 3.0, which is a mistake on AMD's part. Expect poorer performance between the southbridge and the CPU with latency going through the roof compared to Intel's superior DMI 3.0 and even AMD's own HT.

>>58063726
>Expect poorer performance between the southbridge and the CPU with latency going through the roof compared to Intel's superior DMI 3.0 and even AMD's own HT.

:c

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>>58063726
Does it really even matter

Literally what's even connected through the south bridge these days

>>58063922
Additional PCIe slots, SATA ports, USB ports, M.2/SATA Express port, ethernet port, etc.

Stic ing with my 5820k

>affordable 8c/t16t CPUs with half decent IPC
Don't fucking me now you fucking street shitters

>>58056830

I won't buy any CPU from AMD until they distance themselves from their saudi investors. Until then I view them as complicit in the continued existence of wahabist extremism across the globe, namely ISIS.

>>58056830
An Intel CPU because Intel ME engine has been defeated unlike AMD's PSP spyhardware.

Probably the sr7 non black edition unless its way way better than the normal sr7. microatx with 32GB ram and a vega gpu. all nice and cozy in the smallest possible case

btw this naming scheme is proof amd is semi retarded.

they could have named it SR9, that way if you compare it to intels i5/i7, amd would have had sr5/sr7/sr9

and dumb people would probably end up buying the SR9 because its a higher numbered name lol.

instead its the sr7 black edition. which means nothing to noobs compared to sr7 or i7

>>58056830
I want to see a benchmark for intel vs ryzen with training a neural network.

just for shits n giggles

>>58057291

oh i forgot this. i just call it Zen for the same reason. ryzen has to yet again proof that amd marketing is a bit derp.

i wont tell people i have a RYZN or how the fuck you pronounce it in my system. its a ZEN cpu

>>58064879
>neural network
>cpu
>>>/x/

>>58059155

>three volta cards
>sli only supports 2 cards

why lie on the internet kid? we dont care that you pretend to be a rich guy.

>AyyMemeDee over Intel

Shiggy

>>58060061

dude, why not just buy a 4670k or something used, dirt cheap, clocks well and gives very good performance to the 390.

the 390 if its not cpu bottlenecked will be on par with a gtx 980

>>58060236

thats not true lol. motherboard manufactureres can easily add it (which they will)

even if the cpu itself does not support it, PLX or w/e its called will.

Ryzen is a great name.

>AMD's new CPU has the company RYZEN TO THE TOP
>Your PC will be RYZEN to new heights

The possibilities are endless.

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>>58062837
That was debunked, and then the thing that wasn't actually telemetry got rolled back like two months ago

>>58065064
Found the paid shill everybody!

>>58060783

I have intel + gtx 760 and I have zero troubles in both Windows as GNU+Linux.

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More like AMD Rhizome

>>58056830
If Ryzen lives up to the hype you can bet your ass it'll be my next CPU.

>>58060783
I have a gtx 460 and i can tell that you are a pooinloo amd shit shill

>>58064808
>because Intel ME engine has been defeated
proof? afaik me is yet to be bypassed

>>58065156
Too bad amd never lives up to its hype, i though you self proclaimed technology experts would learn that trusting a company which fails every fucking time is a bad idea

>>58065194
See this thread: >>58064758

>>58058766
what's his name?

>>58065266
yeah thanks I just found it. Really interesting, I've been waiting for this for years.

Gonna try this with some broken PCs next week

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>>58065311
pico

>>58060722
>RAM development is stagnating crazy
We have HBM, HMC, 3D Xpoint and even regular RAM reaches capacities of 128GB per DIMM. how is that stagnation?

>>58064808
AMD's PSP doesn't even have access to the NIC. Whereas intel can let the NSA manage your servers via VNC.

>>58060722
>gpu
One of the biggest drawbacks of GPUs is that you have to copy the data to the GPU and back.

>>58056830
No Ryzon to not buy Ryzen.
JK
Intel it is. Because intel is cheaper and faster per core.

>>58065438

>cheaper

You have no way of knowing that.

Dual socket 28 core Xeon Skylake with built in FPGA. I mean it has to be better than my current E5-2699 V4

finally time to replace my Q6600

let's just hope the consumer models are not going to be wallet rape like the current i5 processors

>>58065767

My gut tells me a 4c/8t SKU will sit just above a K i5 to invalidate the consumer i7 line. That said i'd rather there be a 6c/12t SKU in this price bracket and a 4c/8t SKU to sit slap bang in the middle of the i5 price range.

Or AMD decides to go mental and price it stupidly low to invalidate i3's as well (but I don't see that happening). Watch this space though - the real gem (again, guessing) of the zen range will be the APUs given how far ahead of Intel AMD is on the gpu front.

>>58056830

>2017
>falling for amd's shady marketing tactics

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ITA1_XoqM

>>58065334
My penis is confused.

>>58065767
>My gut tells me a 4c/8t SKU will sit just above a K i5 to invalidate the consumer i7 line. That said i'd rather there be a 6c/12t SKU in this price bracket and a 4c/8t SKU to sit slap bang in the middle of the i5 price range.

Stop making my dick hard.

To be fair though I wouldn't be surprised if they charged more than you think for their 8c/16c given the current prices from Intel. If they do what you say it could get real fucking interesting.

>>58065968
Meanwhile in reality the nvidia card renders less than the amd card when it detects benchmarks, including aos, is running, and despite this, the differences are attributable to the amount of procedural generation in the game.

>>58060783

760 here as well, kepler is gimped as fuck

http://www.gamersnexus.net/guides/2724-gtx-780-ti-benchmark-in-2016

i feel more sorry for 780ti and titan owners, $700+ gpu's from only 3 years ago that are performing worse than $200 midrange cards today

why the fuck would anybody get an nvidia gpu, it's clearly not a better LONG TERM investment than an AMD GPU, this is just the objective truth

>>58065922
>zen range will be the APUs given how far ahead of Intel AMD is on the gpu front.
Does APU matter if I have a dedicated GPU already?

>>58066040
People don't have the attention span for anything other than NOW NOW NOW.

Most don't fall for long term investments, they want results and they want it now even if it means paying more.

>>58066059

you're right anon, most people are retards

casual fools buy into nvidia's strategy, enthusiasts that actually know what the fuck is going on and think with their brains rather than their wallets know whats going on

the future is dx12 / vulkan

>>58066055

For a system with a dgpu a zen APU is worthless. The main reason why a zen APU is a serious game changer for AMD is if cpu performance is upto par a wad of fast ram would make such an APU a beast for laptops or for el cheapo vidya machine. Intel has only really caught up with AMD's 28nm APUs for igpu performance recently outside of iris pro chips because despite the staggering node advantage AND dedicating 50% of the die space to the gpu alone Intel still cannot into gpus.

Sure they will get there eventually but Intel's driver team is absolutely not capable of providing the software support right now to make their igpus suitable for vidya. The shit AMD and Nvidia deal with ensuring games run on their cards is mind bending and Intel is not prepared for it.

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>>58056844
Nvidia fucking has problems which each damn update, I've stopped updating regularly just to be sure that certain drivers doesn't have any fucking problems.

>>58056830
Depends what kinda 4 core, 8 thread clocked at close to 4Jiggaherts there are/is
I know it'll outperform my X4 880k, but want similarly clocked, desu

>>58056830
After hd 4890, e-350 and r7 250x I am not going to buy anthing ati/amd related.

I am not able to play any movie with >30fps without lag, not matter if it is 480p or 1080p

When vid has 1080/720p 60fps I have to watch 480p 30fps

fuck them

>>58066195
>For a system with a dgpu a zen APU is worthless
Nah man it will be great for a VM host doing pci passthrough on the gfx.

>>58066293
Lol'd

>>58066293
Agreed. Eyefinity6, Rage Fury Maxx, and 5950 were the products that pissed me off the point of never again buying ATi/AMD.

All these summer/newfags don't have enough first-hand experience with AMD bullshit to have a worthwhile opinion.

>>58066293

are you sure it's not because you're a retard and it's most likely a software issue not hardware

>>58066293
>e-350
Assuming this isn't a joke...

You do realize that is only a bit better than an Atom processor from 4 years ago, right? If you are not watching something that can be hardware decoded then its going to suck ass.

I know 720p 10-bit 24FPS anime was pushing that processor to its limits and would drop frames, it probably does worse at VP9 that Youtube likes to use now. If you stick to h.264 it can do 1080p 60FPS just fine.

Your best bet is to start using youtube-dl and making sure you have it set to only download formats your hardware decode paths can handle. If you are downloading movies from elsewhere then make sure you are downloading h.264 8-bit encoded files.

>>58066523
I have first-hand experience with this product. It was almost unusable for web browsing unless you stuck with Internet Explorer. Somehow AMD fucked up the driver in a way that only supported IE.

>>58066512
AMD has delivered great products for like 3 times the past 15 years. You just have to buy at the correct time newfag.

>>58066239
>https://nvidia.custhelp.com/app/answers/detail/a_id/4278
icing on the cake, does this imply all the older drivers are fucked?

>>58066558
That sounds like bullshit. I used to have a e-350 laptop and it worked fine with Firefox and Chrome, GPU acceleration worked fine. My brother still uses a E-350 laptop and is fine with it and mostly uses it for playing back movies on his TV. My dad uses a Jaguar based laptop (like the E-350 bobcat but a gen or two newer) and still loves it.

>>58066646
I don't know. I just know that scrolling up and down a normal website in Chrome or Firefox was painfully slow, and the same website would work fine in IE.

>>58066673
Sounds like memory-related problems. Or wangblows (in particular with regard to composition).

>>58066673
In Firefox check about:support and see if it says its using GPU acceleration. I do remember a few times where FF would blacklist a driver version for unknown reasons and I would have to muck about in about:config to force it to enabled. Never had any issues from doing that.

>>58062817

give it back tyrone

>>58058342
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>app

>>58058017
uhh what
should I remove the bricks from my fire place and start a fire in it and when my house goes up in flame say it was built badly or something?

also those chips are like a decade+ old

>>58066523
I have this issues with r7 250x.

e-350 can run yt 1080p without problem

>>58067719
R7 250X looks to have almost exactly the same video decoder as an E-350,maybe slightly improved. Wiki says its has UVD 3.1 compared to the E-350's 3.0.

I don't have personal experience with this one but I don't see why it would have issues.

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>>58066558
3 years ago on one of those ati drivers I had ridiculous issue.

Every time my pc went to energy saving mode and then it woke up itself (shitty laser mouse was moving pointer on it own) everything with sound like movie in vlc and every vid in browser (no matter if it was yt or pornhub) changed its volume from 0% to 100% and windows global volume to 100% and play all vids at the same time (even the ones that were paused)

One day I had like 5 tabs with songs pasued on yt and 10 porn tabs, I went for grocery (20mins), my pc turned on after 10mins.

You can only imagine music made of several songs and porn movies going on 100% volume when I was doing fucking grocery.

Keep in mind that usually I have sound volume on 20% in windows and it went to 100% so it was fucking loud and movies with anal fucking are pretty loud desu.


Now every time I have to take a break for pc I turn off speakers physically from pc.

foooking hell

I guess it was AMD devs bug because after drivers update it was working fine.

>>58067882
>exactly the same
>but different
I sounded like and idiot there.

>>58056830
My fx 8300 will last me a few more years. All I do is play shitty games anyway.

>>58067719
ah e-350 run 1080p 30fps without problem but it will not run >30fps


This issue with r7 250x looks like this.
For ex. on yt with >30fps whole movie is loaded but when I run it freezes every few second.

>>58066040
>long term investment
Who the fuck uses the same GPU for more than 2 years? Serious question.

>>58067957
My GPU's 8 years old.

>>58060453
It's poorly adopted because it's useless unless you're part of the rare high-end laptop species. What use are external graphics cards and external drives of that speed on a desktop system? All that shit can fit inside just fine.

>>58067992
ok let me clarify that
Why would a person that actually uses their GPU to play games keep it for more than 2 years?

>>58067957
Anyone who's not a cuck.

does it come as quad-core for 100eur? if so maybe yes

>>58068025
It's not useless unless you have a high end laptop, it's useless because it's practically only found in high end laptops. If Thunderbolt was on more devices more devices would most definitely be made for it.

>>58066040
I don't understand people who think like you. If you spend $700 on a graphics card, you do it because you want top performance and quality, otherwise you'd buy something cheaper. Now why exactly would you want to use this shit forever? I mean you either want quality or you don't, but no matter how a card "ages" a card from 3 years ago will categorically not be enough for top-tier performance and quality. By that time it's too slow anyway and you're upgrading anyway. The only reason to buy high-end is the performance it offers, buying for "long term" is retarded. If I wanted to max everything 3 years ago, won't I also want to max everything now?

>>58068153
But what device would you actually need for a desktop? I can only imagine extremely niche use cases, like having some specific workflow where you need very fast external SSDs or some shit to use on different systems, everything else is served perfectly well by internal hardware.

>>58068217
Where did I say I specifically wanted it in every desktop? I'm just saying that if more devices supported Thunderbolt then more Thunderbolt devices would exist. But to humour your question, it'd be nice for using Thunderbolt devices I have for my laptop, not to mention it's a USB C port so there's really no reason not to have at least one because even if you never use Thunderbolt you'll still most likely use the port and have the option to use Thunderbolt should you ever choose to.

>>58067895
That's hilarious.

>>58068170
Eh. What if three years ago I had a lot of free time and I was super into a certain game?

>>58068170
Good goy. You need the latest card every 5 minutes good goy. Buy buy buy! There's no way a GTX 770 can still max virtually every game today good goy!

>>58068170
Or you do it because the beefier end your GPU is the longer its performance will hold up to new titles.

>>58068026
In my country avg month salary is 500$ and prices of electronic are 30% higher than on amazon.us.

People do not throw stuff because its old, they are using it till its kill.

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>>58067895
>Now every time I have to take a break for pc I turn off speakers physically from pc.

Yeah that is pretty funny.

I have a wireless remote for my audio gear - makes it easy to shut off and turn everything back on.

Some guy said on some forum that GF 14nm is like intel 20nm

and then gave this article
https://semiaccurate.com/2016/09/26/globalfoundries-7nm-process-isnt-even-close-name/

Is this nonsense or what

>>58068432
>notevensemiaccurate.com
Didn't even need to open the link to know the answer.

Fx6300 oc'd
Gtx970
Will probably upgrade if it's cost effective.

>>58060722
on the ssd point, real world benchmarks show next to no difference between 600mb and 2000+mb

its only useful in sustained writes or reads where nothing else is going on, such as raw video, there is a bottleneck somewhere else not in the storage that prevents it from going faster.

>>58056830

I'm gonna buy the fuck out of this, and I will donate my X99 5960X to a friend of mine.

>>58056830
I will just decide what ever is best for my money.

>already deciding to buy Ryzen even though not much is known about performance

true consumer cuck.

>>58068612
>le ebin cuck maymay

>>58068612
actually there's no other alternative to AMD for x86 CPUs unless you're a self-hating consumer cuck

>>58056844
Intel supports Feminist Frequency.

>>58066040
It's not shocking a >3 year old high end card gets outmatched by recent mid range cards. High end cards generally get outmatched by midrange cards 2 years later, sometimes even less.

You're delusional enough to say that AMD is a better long term investment because the 780 Ti gets outperformed by the GTX1060 and even the GTX1050Ti, while totally ignoring the fact that the RX480 outperforms the R9 290X.

It's amazing the shit fanboys will convince themselves of.

>>58068642
I'll just check which CPU gives me the best performance.

If the new Ryzen can outmatch Intel in the usual workloads, I'll be sure as fuck to get that. If it disappoints and it turns out that Intels boring ass Kaby Lake refresh is still superior, I'll get Intel.

>>58067895
instead of manageing sound in windows, why not manage it through the speakers?

i have windows set to 100%, and my speakers are set to 10%-20% depending on the source.

but i'm assuming you meant a laptop now because no one would be stupid enough to do it this way if they had a choice.

>>58068432
>Some guy said on some forum that GF 14nm is like intel 20nm
Which is still horrendously wrong no matter how many times it gets repeated.

The 20nm planar processes created by TSMC and Samsung had far greater back end scaling than intel's 22nm Trigate.
TSMC and Samsung used their 20nm process back ends as the basis for their first generation 16/14nm FinFET nodes. They called them "Transitional" for this reason. It offset costs, and ensured yields wouldn't be terrible. Global Foundries offers Samsung's 14nm LPP process rather than one they developed internally.

The process that GloFo will be using at 7nm is from IBM since their acquisition. The 7nm FinFET process is SOI based rather than bulk, and nothing about it is publicly known aside from this. Its possible that it is another transitional process utilizing a 10nm backend with a smaller front end of line. Ultimately it doesn't matter. Having a marketing name for a process node is ridiculous in the first place. Consumers don't need to know, and the so called enthusiasts who argue about it have no EE background to understand transistor nuances regardless. What matters are the metrics like fmax, leakage current, dynamic power, drive voltage, and etc.
A good process is a good process no matter what its called.

This presentation has some information on IBM's 14nm through 10nm processes, and hints at some things for their 7nm process. Though this is from 2013, and they could have gone in an entirely different direction for 7nm since nothing was set in stone at this point.
All we know is that its SOI FinFET.

>>58068766
I will buy zen even if it's only 95% as good as kaby lake single threaded clock for clock tbqh

>>58068810
>, and nothing about it is publicly known aside from this.

Allow me to correct myself.
The process uses a fully SiGe channel, and its being ran with quad patterning until EUV machines are fully deployed.
Thats all we know for certain.

>>58068851
if it's cheaper literally why not.

same price, why?

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>>58068432
Doesn't seem very true 2 me

>>58068899
It's not Intel

>>58068899
AMD
M
D

>>58068810
and of course I forgot the link
http://www.soiconsortium.org/fully-depleted-soi/presentations/october-2013/IBM%20-%20Shanghai%20SOI%20Summit%20-%20Oct%202013.pdf

>>58056830
I was planning on doing a new build next year anyway, mine is nearly 3.5 years old and I want to go 4k. so it looks like Zen+Vega for me.

>>58068923
>>58068931
fanboyism is not healthy senpai

guys how long should I wait before I build my PC?

After Ryzen gets released? or After Vega?
I hope they both release at the same time.

>>58068948
Has literally nothing to do with fanboyism. In fact, quite the opposite. My choice wasn't blindly made based on which company I like more, it was based on avoiding a company I despise and having only one viable alternative.

>>58068988
>i despise a cpu company

woah dude did AMD hurt you physically

did he touched your peepee

>>58069014
You're retarded.

>>58068727
remember all the shit storm over the 780ti only performing as good as a 960?

they were forced to do a performance update because of it, but now, there are more and more games where the 780ti matches or is under a 960 performance wise but everyone just gave up.

>>58066040
>i feel more sorry for 780ti and titan owners, $700+ gpu's from only 3 years ago that are performing worse than $200 midrange cards today
I'd be worried if that wasn't the case, because that shows serious lack of advancement in graphics technology.

anyone think raid 10 with 8 disk array could make thier older desktop much faster than new 8 core cpu? the disk si the slow part, and the shti liek firefox n chrom who dont directly put file in ram cuz coders are assholes

>>58069116
Its one thing to buy a $200 GPU and see a new $100-$200 GPU out perform it a year or two later.
Its another to see the top end kind continually lose ground vs the competition with every new driver, only to have a hastily rushed out mid range card slap the shit out of it.

Major monetary investments in enthusiast level tech devalue at a greater rate than mid market oriented hardware.

>>58069131
Get an SSD, add more RAM, disable swap space.

Am I the only person that thinks that AMD might have the low end of their Ryzen line be a 6c/12t part? That would leave all of the 4c parts for raven ridge that is coming in q2 2017. That seems like a real winner to me. A 4c Zen cpu with a full polaris 11 die attached. If they go full retard and put a cut down vega with HBM on die that would murder Intel in the low end and laptop market.

>>58058448
the 480 was because a new wave of gpu miners just became viable power/performance for a short time frame.

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Has there been any word on weather or not AMD will keep supporting Windows 7 with Ryzen? or are they going full botnet too?

>>58069181
The Raven Ridge APU is only 12CU.
RX 460 is 14CU active, plus 2 CU turned off in firmware which you can enable with a flash.
So its not quite a full RX 460.

>>58069131
10yo Maxtor HDD works fine on my machine, with GNU/Linux everything is fast once caches have been primed and the only disk activity is caused by writes.
Windows instead is shit and continuously grinds even with page file disabled.

>>58069213
thats a stupid question right there

>>58068793
Why not? I have turn +/- and mute keys on keyboard, but to be honest I do not manage sound only once after reinstall.

My speakers are 2.0 11yo and its hard to set it on speakers because it usually play from only one speaker and its very low in the second one. I have to find using this wheel for volume exact set where it plays from both at the same time.

so how much a 4 core gonna be?
if they undercut the 6600k by $100 and is not much worse i might consider it

then again, knowing how AMD are a bunch of deceiving cunts, it's going to come up short of expectations

>>58069213
Zen based processors run on Windows 7 just fine, exactly like Carrizo and Bristol Ridge do.
Stop falling for salacious clickbait headliens.

Windows 10 is not required for anything except a new pstate switching implementation. The same thing intel has now.

>>58060175
If i remember right, the first wage of 9590 were oem only, They charged what ever the fuck they felt like.

But I have wildly conflicting release msrp, I know at one point they were nearly 1000$ side blasters, but I also see many places list their msrp at 200-260$ and I honestly cant remember if the 1000$ ones were oem's that sold it as a part separately, or if it was a consumer part.

>>58069223
Do we know for sure that raven ridge is only 12CU? The Zen core is ~5mm^2 so a full quad core module would be somewhere in the neighborhood of 60mm^2 if you account for cache, ect.

The die size of a full polaris 10 is 232mm^2 and polaris 11 is smaller. I could see them slamming together a 400mm^2 chip and selling it, can't you? Especially if they make it an MCM instead of forming them together.

>>58057968
Was looking at some of the comments on benchmark videos.
>Nvidia fags on suicide watch.

>>58064945
Can't tell if you're retarded or trolling. It's obviously a typo if you read it properly. It reads as or the upcoming volta gpu

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>>58069287
>Do we know for sure that raven ridge is only 12CU?
Yes.
APUs are not made with the desktop in mind, ultimate graphics performance is never going to be a target goal. They have to design something that will scale down to mobile TDPs instead of creating something with a significantly larger IGP like the console parts.

The Polaris dies are only as large as they are to reduce defects, die area was balanced with yield so they could ship out millions of them right off the bat. They're not designed for density like other designs will be. A dense version of the die used in the RX 480 would only be around 120mm~
They could conceivably created a massive high perf APU with a moderately sized die, easily under 400mm2. There just isn't enough market for it to be worthwhile in anything but a console.

>>58069262
Every speaker I used that was made for computers has an in line or on speaker volume control, and my current speakers, z5500 have a base station that is perfect for controlling the volume.

If i didn't have these, I would likely have a dac for headphones, or even a cheap dac+amp for speakers and headphones.

I have been burned by windows not remember settings often enough to never trust them, especially with audio, as its the last thing I ever want cracked up to 10 when windows forgets a setting. Both games and windows fucking forgets these settings all the god damn time, hell, everquest has a fun glitch where a single sound or piece of music will play at 100% when i have everything set to 5%

>>58064945
>implying you need all three GPUs to run in SLI to have three GPUs

>>58069372
Your own slide says 16CU man. While I agree that the point of an APU is not to be a gaming machine, there have been things stated about raven ridge being "console class" hardware. This means that you "should" be able to get XB1/PS4 gaming performance from them.

>>58069431
Learn how to read, Sherlock.
"Compute cores" is a marketing term for CPU cores+GPU CU.
It clearly states "12 Next Gen GFX cores"

>>58060251
cpu event, not gpu, all eyes on the cpu, why show vega when an incomplete driver could crash live? This way it was all on nvidia not to fuck up.

The only concerning thing said was amd gpu didn't push bf1 as good as intel at 4k, however that is to be taken as a lie as even amds 8370 will push bf1 to a gpu bottleneck.

either way, the deals on a 6700 are gone for the year and amd could drop next month or at the very least have another showing at ces so no reason to not hold out.

>>58069450
I know what it means you fucking slack jawed retard. I asked if it was only 12 CU, you said yes. The AMD slide you posted contradicted that. Why don't you learn to read you mong. If it was limited to 12CU, with a 4 zen core chip they would only get 8 GCN cores on it, not 12.

Jesus christ, why are you so obtuse. WTF is wrong with retards like you that obviously can't read while telling others to.

>>58060565
I have a 955

you are likely gpu bottlenecked rather then cpu

How likely is it that a $250 Ryzen will give me a good speed upgrade from my i5-4690?

>>58069499
CU are not "Compute Cores" you ignorant twat.
CU is a term that only applies to the GPU IP. An X86 core is not a CU.
The IGP is only 12CU.

You can't read, you don't understand any of the terms you're trying to use, and you sperg out when you're corrected. Take your medication.

>>58069527
In something like x264 highly likely just because of the cores threads.
For muh games? Probably next to nothing.

>>58056830
FX 8350/ GTX 1080
im overdue for a CPU upgrade. OC'ing my cpu will more than likely kill my motherboard

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>>58069533
no need to be mean to the guy

>>58069527
Not likely much. AMD has a couple billion in debt to pay off and can't afford to get into a price war with a company that can slash their iGPU by 90% and use the recovered die size to put out a 8 core 16 thread chip for $150.

>>58066035
the moba showing where they had the 6900 and 6700 told you in a wink wink nudge nudge way the price of the minimum 8 core was going to be.

the 6 core is likely going to be 250~ and the 4 150-200$ with a top binning zen priced somewhere between 350 and 1100 but keep in mind, they cant fpu, they have dull channel memory, and gutted some other shit next to nothing really uses. it is not going to be desktop performance king, its going to be price performance king, and given general computing/gaming does not use large fpu loads and barely uses memory to make shit faster anymore, it will give non E intel cpus a run for its money if not curb stomp them entirely especially in normal peoples cpu use needs.

>>58065968
Stop posting your gay videos on /g/ you fag

>>58069668
>Intel's shareholders and executive bonuses can't afford to get into a price war with a company that can slash their iGPU by 100% and use the recovered die size to put out a 8 core 16 thread chip for $500

ftfy

>>58069766
What?

>>58069817
>Intel's shareholders and executive bonuses can't afford to get into a price war with a company that can slash their iGPU by 100% and use the recovered die size to put out a 8 core 16 thread chip for $500

ftfy

>>58069856
What?

>>58065968
Anyone care to tell me what I have to put into 4chanx to filter this youtube video, any post containing it is worthless.

>>58069877
cf >>58069766 and >>58069856

>>58066293
Install H264ify.
Problem solved.
Was that hard?

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Who is looking forward to Logan from Clit TV benchmarking Ryzen?!?!?!

>>58066558
>>58066293
I had a laptop with an E350 for school, never had any issues with it whether I was gaymen or playing HD videos. There was something wrong with your setup, be it faulty hardware, software, or PEBCAK.

>>58069946
You still watch that shit channel?

>>58065200

I don't know about that, my 2 Athlon 5350 systems have been kicking serious ass as file servers. Both built for less than $150

>>58069881
A unique part of the URL, perhaps.

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>>58069946
Fuck this Amd shill

>>58070132
no, its the whole filter system that has so much retarded shit attached to it that I have no understanding of what it does, lets say I wanted to filter your comment, this is what it looks like

/^>>58069881\nA unique part of the URL, perhaps\.$/

I have no understanding what any of this means and the guide is... lacking for better term.

>>58056844
You can provide no proof that this single combination is going to have the least common problems across all users of all combinations.

just bought 1151 mobo and am poorfag

if i upgrade it will be a 1151 cpu sorry amdbros, I have a r9 fury if that counts..

>>58056830
Garbage CPU

>>58070268
You're buying a garbage CPU? Why?

>>58070282
He must be buying ryzen

>>58068655
this. this is one reason I won't buy Intel.

>>58068978
get ryzen a month after release so you knnow it's gud

>>58070321
>arch worked on by Jim Keller
>garbage
How much is Intel paying you per post?

>>58069213
is this bait?

>>58070321
good goyim

>>58057857
Not him, but I see you bought one already? Is that a thing they do in India? :^)

>>58058487
It always reminds me of Ryze from League of Legends.
>inb4 fuck back off to >>>>/v/

>>58058732
I'm still rocking my 955 BE.

With a GTX 1070.

Can't wait to upgrade.

>>58060199
Buy a Devil's Canyon or Skylake CPU and never overclock. I'm gonna say this because Intel usually makes pretty stable shit.

When the fuck does thing come out anyway? Is it January or is it March?

>>58070487
>playing ryze
whew lad

>>58070559
I never played Ryze. Last season he was broken as shit, and that pissed me off.

>>58070552
it'll """"launch"""" in march

>>58069527
judging by the Blender benchmark the 6c/12t Zen would be a lot faster than a Haswell i5.

8 core Zen at 3.4Ghz is almost twice as fast i7-4790k

Will it likely come out in January?

>>58060813
>>58060882

He might be referring to Toshin Raizen from YuYu Hakusho.

I just want to hear about when Vega will come out and when the new mobile chips will be in laptops and what not.
I could use a new decent laptop to hold me off.

>>58070666
No

>>58070225
/04ITA1_XoqM/;stub:no

Put it in the "comment" section.

>>58056830
RYZEN definetely, I hope it's not retardedly expensive though. An i5 6600k is 350 bucks where I live

>>58058017
>AGP in the video
>Hasn't been a connector since 2009

That's one stale cherry you're picking

>>58056830
Depends on the pricing

if they released an 8 core chip for significantly less than the 8 core 16 thread chip, I can live without the extra threads, or maybe a 6 core 12 thread chip would be amazing

currently on a 4ghz FX 8 core

>>58070871
AMD isn't jewish enough to disable multithreading. Intel only does it to differentiate the product. Not for actual technical reasons.

>>58070811
nz?

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I'll stick with my trusty Phenom II. It's 6 yrs old and still going strong. Recently applied some new thermal compound to it and my Opteron 170 (server's cpu) so good for another few years.

>>58065311
there doesn't appear to be any balls

>>58070897
Isn't it a part of the die?

>>58070946
a tiny part of the die.

Not a single Intel processor with 2, 6, 8, 10, 12 ,14, 16, 18, 20 or 22 cores has disabled hyperthreading. Only some quadcores have hyperthreading disabled to differentiated i5 from i7. No other reason than to sell the same fully functional chip at two different price points.

>>58071080
There's some Xeons that have no hyperthreading with 6/8 cores

>>58071080
>Only some quadcores have hyperthreading disabled to differentiated i5 from i7. No other reason than to sell the same fully functional chip at two different price points.

Are you sure about that. Sometimes yields are shit and some of the dies are not 100% functional.

>>58070946
>>58071080
HT is generally done mostly as a hack in the register renamer block of a CPU.

A real core has something like 128-160 physical integer registers compared to the 16 or so exposed in the x86_64 instruction set, so an out-of-order superscalar processor is already dedicating a lot of work to juggling things differently internally than what the external instruction stream looks like.

For the most part there's not a special "HT" block that gets disabled, just different microcode that controls how internal assets are divvied up (or not).

>>58062914
Realistically it's either the service checking for updates or a service waiting for error reports... OR maybe it's an ultimate plot to watch you play vidya games and your cuck porn.

>>58069575
Even the 4c 8t will be a big improvement

>>58069527
100% chance

>>58069372
>A dense version of the die used in the RX 480 would only be around 120mm^2
It that why the efficiency is relatively low compared to NVIDIA?

>>58069268
Rumor is $150 for 4c 8t, so yes of course it will wreck the Skylake i5s. At a higher price we'll see

>>58069213
Not sure, probably. Anyway it's MS who has to support AMD, not the other way around.

>>58068978
Depends on how badly you need one. If you don't have one at all (100% "need"), just get an i3-6100 with a Z170 mobo. You'll be able to upgrade to an unlocked i7 for cheap later

>>58068943
Wait for benchmarks, keep an open mind

>>58071747
>It that why the efficiency is relatively low compared to NVIDIA?

Both stem from the same cause. The design from the ground up was tailored to yield high, and AMD themselves set really wide margins on what was passable in terms of voltage/clock. Most dies are running with way more voltage than necessary to account for lower quality dies. They wanted to get as many RX 480s on the market as possible, so there is a really large range of ASIC quality ratings among cards you'll find on the shelf.
If you lower the voltages for all the pstates and tweak the power target manually in Wattman you can easily shave off 20w from the total power consumption. Account for the additional memory draw from an 8GB card vs a 6GB card and the RX 480 is in line with the GTX 1060 in perf/watt.

>>58070072
Annoying shit systems there, only 2 SATA ports. Had to get a card with two more for mine. Worked fine, sure, but that was annoying. Later I wanted to add more disks and just bought a A88X system. The 5350s would have been so perfect for small servers if they had 8 SATA ports. ofc 4 or 6 is standard for everything Intel offers for some reason.

>>58058766
That's a dude.
Probably the most of convincing trap I've seen, but still a dude.

>>58071207
so, each and every quad core had each and every smt part of the core crippled, but nothing else was wrong, only those smt areas?

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>>58057291
Has AMD RYZEN from the dead?

>>58070867
That video is 15 years old

>>58060416
>it's actually less successful than firewire.

Never thought about that. I've never seen a Thunderbolt anything.

Why are people hype about this?

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Still rocking Westmere-EP.

I want to move up to 1440p 144 Hz gaming with FreeSync soon, which'll require Vega and I'm hoping to get a Ryzen setup at the same time, with an M.2 NVMe PCIe SSD.

>>58074118
>Why are people hype about this?
See >>58060453

>>58074466
Vega isn't coming out at the same time as Ryzen but that's the plan on my end too.

>>58074481
Why cant you do egpu's w/ usb-c? I'd much rather have
that.

Edit: wrong quote for some reason

>>58060630
I know that feel
Lost my 940, some 4GB DDR2 sticks and the most awesome motherboard I've seen along with PSU last year.
Got Pentium /g/ meme temporarily. Can't wait to have a good computer again, but Ryzen seems a bit out of my price range, gotta wait for quad core.

>>58074592
Why? That's fucking retarded.