/hpg/ Headphone General

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>>58025381
/hpg/, I'm confused.
I don't get how """""""7.1""""""""" surround works for vidya and headphones. Like, the game gives your drivers 2 outputs. How the fuck does the 7.1 software/driver determine what is in front/back/up/down?

It seems pointless to me. If the game itself gives virtual surround then you don't need drivers, and if it doesn't, then the software has no way of determining direction other than left/right, right? The surround driver doesn't magically step between the game's audio engine and it's outputs, right?

The only real circumstance where I can kind of see it working is if the game has an option for proper 7.1 [as in proper 7 channel home theater set up] output, but not virtual surround, which is fucking stupid.

>>58025641
at least you can get free shipping

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How radical does this man look

How hard would it be to re-cable my Grado 225?

The cable cuts out unless I hold it a certain way. I have a soldering iron and a hot glue gun. Just what cable do I buy and how do I open it?

Whats more comfortable X2 or K702 or HD600?

I found SHURE SE215 for suspiciously cheap. Are there any telltale signs in the build / packaging that I'm dealing with a chinese knock-off?

>>58027146
すごいな

Respectfully requesting the webm of the fat autist plugging headphones into a phone and listens to something while he squirms in pain. I will return the favor please.

>>58027186
It's probably the jack, which is an insanely easy fix.

All you need is a 3.5 or 6.3 [your choice] jack, a soldering iron, and like 5 minutes of time.

Cut the cable, strip the wires, burn off any enamel if there is any. Solder on the new jack, and crimp them down with some needlenose. Attach sleeve. EZ.

You might want to get some heatshrink to if you want it to look noice.

>>58025424
You know only have 2 ears? Which literally means sound is only 2.0 so to say.

It works by providing louder sound to one ear and lower sound to the other in the other direction to simulate the direction, like sound would do to you in real life.

>>58027217
X2 or K702, but X2 has far better sound imo

just got etymotic hf5 for 110 usd. how did I do?

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>>58027411
It's not the jack. The problem is right where the cable splits into two. The two cables have been bent too many times exiting that piece and are falling apart.

>>58027564
I think Grados will repair it for you.

Now, where do I cop the duck earpads?

>>58027564
Oh. Not quite as easy of a fix, but is still entirely do-able. You can either try and make your own splitter, or you can just buy a splitter headphone cable, the type you can get for HE 400i and HD 600's, and cut the tips off, and resolder them onto the grados cable.
You'll want stress relief crimp things and probably some heatshrink.

You can often buy IEM's themselves for cheaper than an actual cable, and just salvage the cable from them.
Making the splitter yourself is harder but would be cheaper.

>>58027584
Think you have to make them yourself. I think they're dish scrubber pads in the shape of ducks that someone cut into grado cups.

>>58027515
You have no idea of what I'm talking about. Please don't reply again.

>>58027676
I was just describing how sound literally works for our ears. Please show evidence if you want to change the physical laws.

>>58025424
It's just marketing

>>58027752
Except you're wrong. Your ears aren't two microphones on two exactly flat planes. You can hear when shit is infront or behind. You can't do that with headphones without virtual surround.

What you replied had no relevance to what I even posted in the first place. Stop trying to be smart. You're clearly a dumb cunt.

>>58027782
But you can you dumbfuck yourself, ever hear of binaural recordings? Literally obliterates dolby atmos levels of performance and provides almost real life sound.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IUDTlvagjJA

Now please fuck off since youre literally too dumb to understand how headphones work

>>58027777
I'm not talking about """"""""7.1"""""" headphones. I know they're useless shit.

But just the actual software/drivers aren't. They serve a purpose if they're actually implemented. I think to sum it up is why does everyone fawn over that shit when only like 4 games in existence actually can use it. Most games that offer proper 7.1 channel support also offer proper virtual surround.

>>58027799
ARE YOU FUCKING DENSE
I'M TALKING ABOUT VIDDY GAME VIRTUAL SOUND
NOT AUDIO RECORDINGS
YOU FUCKING SPUD
LEARN TO READ
jesus fuck

>>58027819
ARE YOU FUCKING DENSE THERE IS NO WAY THAT VIDYAGAMES COULD SIMULATE 2 MICROPHONES AND THE DAMPENING OF THE HEAD. HOW COULD THEY? ITS NOT LIKE THEY MAKE SOUND MOVE IN 3D SPACE OR ANYTHING ALREADY


WHAT IS THIS MAGIC CALLED STEREO SOUND? REAL SOUND IS ONLY MONO. BURN THE WIZARDS

>>58027866
>ARE YOU FUCKING DENSE THERE IS NO WAY THAT VIDYAGAMES COULD SIMULATE 2 MICROPHONES AND THE DAMPENING OF THE HEAD.
Nobody is arguing that point. Current virtual surround for vidya isn't even attempting to mimic binural. Virtual surround is about locational imaging and distance. Binural is going for realism.

>HOW COULD THEY?
Programming, it's been done.

>ITS NOT LIKE THEY MAKE SOUND MOVE IN 3D SPACE OR ANYTHING ALREADY
They can, but that again isn't what current virtual surround does for the most part. Proper 3D sound is actually /more/ confusing for the human ear than simulated 3D sound.

Stop going off topic, or stop replying. Please.

>>58027954
The whole post was sarcasm you literal retard

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Ok, I have no idea where else to post this so bare with me here.
>ib4 not your personal tech support bla bla

I'm looking to step up my audio game in terms of speakers, not headphones. I want to get the Pioneer A-10-K (2x 50 watts / 4 Ohm) Stereo amplifyer.
https://www.amazon.de/gp/product/B0082JFKPQ/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?ie=UTF8&psc=1&smid=A3JWKAKR8XB7XF

But the speakers I want (AEG LB 4711) are 500 wats at 8 Ohms...
https://www.amazon.de/AEG-LB-4711-Lautsprecher-schwarz/dp/B005QMV5RE/ref=sr_1_5?ie=UTF8&qid=1481904622&sr=8-5&keywords=lautsprecher+200+watt

>Will I be able to drive these speakers at a decent sound and bass quality?
>If not, what Speakers should I get instead? If possible ruffly the same size.

...I'm gonna get banned for the /r/ing won't I?

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took these out after awhile and how are they still so goat?

the pads on mine have fallen apart though. are any of the aftermarket pads decent at retaining the original sound without disintegrating within a year? no memeshit. i have the dt 250 pads already and know better.

>>58029315
If something sound natural then there isn't really much you can innovate anymore to make it better.

That, and sound is very subjective.

>>58027234
>SUHRE SE215
There's your clue right there.

Looking to buy at ath-avc500. They are 73$ on amazon. Are they worth

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Is there a possibility for my K712 having been modified or faulty or something like that? I bought them new form thomann and the reason I'm asking this is for the overwhelming ammounts of bass that this produces. People say open backs can't produce enough bass like closed back but this thing goes all the way to 30hz or even less and manages to rumble my hears. I know there's a bass mod for the K700s line, I wonder if mine has that sticker removed.

I didn't like the 702s too much for the lack of bass and slightly sibilant highs on some tracks. When I returned them for the 712 I was expecting a small 3db increase in general bass (like advertised), instead this feels like 10db increase

Is the HD 598 a good versatile headphone?

I want something less than $200 that I can carry around and use at home with my fiio e10k amp

Is it possible to use it when I'm out and about? Obviously it's not ideal with a 5ft cable but still

>>58030279
I've listened to EDM, techno, house and shit like that on them so yea I'd say they're pretty damn versatile since their strength is in the mids and smooth highs

>>58030279

The HD598SE is black and has a 3ft cable, those are not portables though

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>>58025641
That's some money laundering operation or someone playing with the html

>>58030316
>EDM, techno, house
Normalfag taste on electronic music

get into my level next age

bass is only good for massaging and out of body experience

idm

>Budget
$100-200
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Maximum Comfy
>Sound signature
Neutral is good, but not picky
>Past headphones
I use a SHP9500s at home, and I love the comfort level.

I picked up a 598c for work and like the sound quality over the SHP9500s, but it's a bit tight and tiring. Any suggestions on something closed and comfortable?

Thinking about a Beyerdynamic DT-250-80OHM or M-Audio HDH50.

>>58030496

Gp for the dt250

>I can hear light crackling with no audio playing

My headphones are dying aren't they?

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So my dad got me a pair of headphones for christmas and I was asking for a microphone but the guy in the store told him they don't sell stand alone mics anymore.
The headphones were supercheap and terrible on everything, hi res audio sounds better on my desktop speakers than on the headphones and the mic (the thing I wanted) makes everything sound like it was recorded through a carboard tube.

I'm extreamly dissapointed but I don't want to tell my dad because he'll get angry

>>58031265
>My headphones are dying aren't they?
How do you figure your headphones emit sounds on their own?

>Budget
$100-150
>Location
USA
>Source
phone and Laptop
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfy able to wear for a few hours
>Sound signature
Not sure If it helps listen to bunch of classical music.
>Past headphones
just ones that came with my iphones.

>>58031271

Tell him you needed something different and go change them

>>58031365

Mdr v6 of k553 pro if you dont intend to go outside with them

>>58031922

V6 or k553 pro *

>>58031935
thank you but what would you recommend doe going outside with.

>>58032214

the mdr-v6, the coiled cable is the only drawback the k553 pro are really big

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Just got some monoprice dj for $15

>>58032224
Will the mdr cable work on my phone?

>>58032609

yeah, they will work on anything

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>>58025381

For my qc25 which replacement wire should I buy since i lost mine? Can someone recommend me a link please I don't want to buy cheap quality as I have bought those before and only last about a year.

Srs question

I know you guys don't like bose but my house is rlly loud i only bought it for noise cancelling

(indian family always yelling on phone and being loud in general)

>>58025381
Looking for a wireless headset for around $50. Yeah, I know wired > wireless, but with the way my setup is, having a wire is really awkward. No, there isn't any way to fix it.

Any recommendations?

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I know wireless headphones a shit but if you had to pick one (less than $250) then what would you get?

>>58030234
Aren't the drivers exactly the same? From my understanding the only difference was the memfoam pads so the db increase depends on how fucked up your head is.

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I just ordered a pair of AirPods. How fucked am I /g/? They just seem convenient as fuck to have no cable.

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>>58034734
I can't get over how douchey this guy looks in these promo shots

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am i supposed to check all the boxes? if i play a 96khz song will it automatically play the song in 96khz and then drop down to 44.1khz for the next song?

>>58030496
HM5

>>58028525
>I'm only acting stupid, I swear!

Is there a way to increase headphone's impedance through external means? I know cables with higher resistance exist but is there anything else?

>>58035000
Why do you want to do that?

>>58034837
>check all the boxes
Yes.

>>58035014
Curiosity, I wonder if it could improve sound quality for low impedance headphones and a decent amp.

>>58035122
it won't.

>>58030234
Country it is made?

>>58034708
Fuck Off

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>>58035209
You got me

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Does this animu grill have good taste in headphones?

Can we post about speakers here if there is no speaker general?

>>58035303
I hope so because those are the ones I'm getting.

>>58035303
That 2D girl fell for a deprecated meme

>>58029228
>ruffly

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>>58027186
recable is stupid easy, the housing breaks into 3 pieces and the wires can by unsoldered from the driver. It's so easy you should spend money on decent cabling and a jack to really pimp them out.

also make the cable single sided and detachable while you're at it.

>>58035562
Goddamn, why do grados look like medieval torture devices?

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There should be a general buy guide chart, there would be less repost.

Looking for a pair of headphones under $50~. Preferably closed, with high comfortably, and loud fun noise for the purpose of long sessions of video/gaming entertainment.

Is the Monoprice Premium Hi-Fi 8323 with Geekria cloth headband a good choice?

>>58032344
those are really good for 15 dollars desu senpai

>>58035692
The earpads are worse than the heabdand padding. Get some HM5 pads
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00MFDT894
and one of these
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/391507605337

I did that to my 8323 [and replaced the drivers] and i love em.

>>58030371
>next age
Probably dolphin noises in tunnels

>>58035858

US

This?
http://www.ebay.com/itm/Headband-Comfort-Cushion-Pad-For-Sennheiser-HD-Grado-SR-Sony-Denon-Headphone-US-/142028156922?hash=item211189affa:g:QXoAAOSw44BYO9Ma

Are these better than the wool?
https://www.amazon.com/Headphone-Sennheiser-Audio-Technica-Replacement-Protector/dp/B00L61YYXQ

>>58035191
Slovakia

>>58036498
And K702? Country is that made if you remember?

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>>58029315
I used to have these. Worked wonderfully until they got ran over by a minivan during a road trip.

>>58036621
No idea, was months ago

>>58027217
X2 but they are all comfortable, HD600 has stronger clamping force but that can be fixed and it weakens overtime, I'd get the best sounding headphone to your preferences. Want neutral? HD600. Want 'fun' and bassy? X2. K702 isn't worth it.

>>58027541
Excellent.

>>58035303
She probably likes BBC.

>buy USB DAC
>still getting coil whine on speakers
How?

>>58030234
>>58036498
>>58036867
You're not crazy. I think the same thing. Proof https://gyazo.com/4540c3a1c501635a44712ae7477a103c

>>58036932
Return it. Does your PC have optical out?

>>58036932

get better speakers

>>58030234
Lemme explain it for you.

All K7 series use the same driver, but the following ones are identical to each other:

K701 = K702 = Q701

K702 Anniversary Edition = K712 = K7XX

The differences between the latter and the former are that the latter has memory foam pads which allows for a better seal on the head, and it has been modified internally to produce a greater bass output.

The former ones are known for not sealing too well on some listeners hence why some say they've got no bass.

In my opinion, something ideal would be the K702 with the memory pads and WITHOUT the internal modification that exists on the latter models.

>>58036934
Page not found

>>58036994
I removed the foams inside the cups covering the driver and the boomyness reduced a lot

>>58036932
Ground loop maybe?

(fyi, i have no idea what a ground loop is but I've had similar problems and google says that might be it)

>>58037158
Tends to be a bassy hum, coil whine is different.

Only way to surely bypass it is to use optical.

>>58036952
>>58036969
>>58037158
I've had this happen across two separate computers (that used the same sound card)

Thought it was the sound card. Got a DAC. Still happening. Using unbalanced RCA. This only happens on the monitors and not the headphones that came from the same sound card and DAC. I also have a mixer that goes to the monitors that uses balanced cables and there's no whine. I'm thinking I need to use balanced cables on my DAC? This shit has followed me around forever and the only thing that hasn't changed is the fact that I use RCA to the monitors.

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why do you need such things when all you need are these? are you poor?

>>58037195
Is it a bassy hum? You can try a isolator if that's the case?

Also did you troubleshoot it with different devices? Like a laptop (try the laptop plugged and unplugged).

It could be your house's wiring at fault.

>>58037195
you have a ground loop, the bane of unbalanced inputs. Google it.

>>58035692
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16826138190

>>58037210
are you?

>>58037217
My stereo equipment right next to my computer going through balanced XLR cables do not have this noise even though it passes by the same wiring and electronic mess the RCA cables do. Just my computer going through RCA has this. Headphones from computer are good though.

>>58037231
Guess I'll try picking up some cables tomorrow. I'm going to kick myself if this was the issue all these years. At this point this is the only thing it can be after reading about this. I figured you only needed balanced for long distance runs.

>>58035303
anyone use the m50x with glasses? I've been considering them but I've seen people saying that they become uncomfortable quickly

>>58025381
is that my nigga duterte?

>>58027217
Depends on your head size and preferences. Sennheisers are generally very uncomfortable for larger heads. AKGs are pretty light and don't clamp much but the band can be annoying. X2 had amazing pads and the band is very comfortable but it might clamp a bit too much on larger heads, nowhere as bad as Sennheisers though, they're also kinda heavy.

>>58037247

Won't the pads get gross from absorbing sweat.

>Budget
$50-$150
>Location
US
>Source
Amp, iPhone, MacBook. This is for my brother, in case he wants to practice in his apartment without disturbing neighbors. But he also listens to music off of his phone and laptop.
>Type of headphone
Full-Sized, over the ears
>Open or closed
Closed. He wants sound-canceling headphones, but I'm not sure that will give him the best sound. He's open to anything.
>Comfort level
Decently comfortable. Up to a few hours of wear at most if it means a good sound for him.
>Sound signature
He listens to a lot of classic rock, blues, and country. He doesn't want a lot of bass, so I guess something that's good all around.
>Past headphones
I just know that he's not into Beats.

Considering getting some 250-Ohm Beyerdynamic DT990s as they are kind of cheap.
How are the 990s compared to the 880s or 770s?

Are there better choices than Beyerdynamic at $150??

>>58038144

880 600ohms are the best ones

>>58038154
Many people prefer 990 or 770.

>>58037776
so would leather pads

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>>58038165

Many people are wrong!

>>58038165

880 ->770 -> 990 increasing on v-shape

>>58038154
The 880s are kind of expensive.
Is it worth getting an 80-Ohm version or is there a noticeable difference in quality?

>>58038244
990s are on sale for like $130, is it worth paying $40 more for 770s?

>>58038165
880s are like brown mechanical switches.
If you have something that tries to get the best of both worlds (closed & open), you get the best of none

>>58038315

well the 770 are closed, the 990 could be a little extreme for you since the highs are harsh for a lot of people that have tried them

>>58038355

not him and my english suck, you mean the 880 try to be open and closed?

>>58038315

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wbyuSFyYOVs

>>58038389
The 770s do seem appealing as they are extremely good at passive noise cancelling
>>58038414
Yes 880s literally advertise having both

>>58036268
Yeah that. They're better than the wool, though it depends on the headphone mostly.

Wool is better for headphones with bad headband surfaces.
The actual removable padding is better for headphones with very little padding, or just shit padding in general. It's the same sort of pad that beyerdynamic headphones use.

>>58036932
It's not coil whine. It's either 'dirty' USB power, or your entire house's power is shit. Determine which, and then get one of those dumb 'cleaner/purifier' things. They work but theyre overpriced.

>>58034157
halp

Which would you argue is more important, a sound card or a dac/amp?

>>58038827
A soundcard is a DAC/Amp technically.

>>58038827
Sound cards are inferior dac/amps

>>58039096

That's factually incorrect, there's a lot of shitty dacs and amps (comparing to STX/II).

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Are the 400i's worth buying?

>Budget
About $700 NZD
>Location
New Zealand
>Source
PC
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Either, as long as the sound signature is what I'm looking for
>Comfort level
Willing to sacrifice some comfort for audio quality
>Sound signature
Looking for a neutral or slightly v-shaped sound signature. I want to use these for listening to electronic like drum and bass, future bass ect.
>Past headphones
Cheap sony's, ATH-M50x

>>58039141
If you compare ones in the same price bracket, I'm pretty sure a dac/amp would always be better, unless you're solely interested in outputs.

>>58039174
Yes. Less comfortable than HD 600's but that low end is moist.

>>58039195
Not the original guy but Ive heard some people say the mids are recessed and others say they are bright, and some say its neutral. Whats the real answer?

>>58039141
Not him, but for price to performance, DAC/Amps [either combo, or a stack/pairing] will generally outperform a typical soundcard in terms of audio out.

Hell, you could get a Fulla 2 and any sub $100 interface for less than a STX II, if all you need is audio out, and microphone control. It'd sound better.

Soundcards are really only relegated to home theater PC use nowdays.

>>58039214
They're pretty damn neutral. HD 600's are ever so slightly brighter in the highs. 400i's low end extends a lot further. Other than that they're pretty fuckin identical.

People saying mids are reccessed are probably thinking of the HE-400, not the 400i.
I'd still personally take HE-400S's or the OG HE-400's over the 400i's, purely because because the rolled off low end of the 400i's just don't suit me, but it's up to you.

>>58039307
So basically its an hd 600 with the 650 bass? Dam son maybe ill actually grab a pair next time they go on sale. Thanks lad

>>58039320
I've heard some people describe it as a 600 that goes lower, and doesn't have rolled off treble.

>>58039320
Not quite. Extension isn't the same as level. Extension is low it can go whilst still staying accurate. 400i's beat HD 600's on it.

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>Budget
<=$60
>Location
Bulgaria
>Source
Soundblaster X-Fi Go! Pro into laptop
>Type of headphone
Full-sized
>Open or closed
Either
>Comfort level
Pain is weakness leaving the body
>Sound signature
Prefer neutral, would tune the EQ
>Past headphones
Steelseries Siberia v2 and misc. chinkshit

My friends recommend HD681 Evo. I am willing to pay a bit more for something better - no added cons, just pros.

>>58039863
Save a bit and get SHP9500.

>>58039888
Can't find in any online store. Also $60 max.

>>58039863
662 EVO are better than the 681 EVO. By a fair bit.

>>58039888
>>58039902

look
>>58037247

>>58039888
>>58039974
Why?

>>58039981
Shipping costs to Bulgaria though

>>58039998
how much is the shipping
big?

>>58040014
From the USA usually more than a dozen dollars, which is already way over the allowance.

>>58039902
>>58039998
Don't forget the gigantic VAT tax.

Check german ebay/amazon/geizahls.de

>>58040027
Correct, Bulgaria has 20% VATs.

>>58039998
>Why?
681 EVO is bloated and nowhere near as clear. 662 EVO is closer to neutral.
People who actually know what they're talking about will tell you the same in /csg/

>>58040039
mMMmm and they're noise-cancelling. Good recommendation, anon.

>>58040050
No, they're not noise cancelling. What made you think that?

>>58040060
http://slushalki.net/superlux-hd662evo?search=662&description=true
That's VAT included.

>>58040073
I only speak english.

>>58040080
Selling for $38 + VATs. How do I recognise a chinese ripoff?

>>58040090
Superlux /is/ a chinese brand lol. Don't think anyone even makes fakes.

Might be cheaper here, too.
http://www.ebay.com.au/itm/291913732961
Will probably take longer to ship tho

>>58040107
Don't I pay VATs online as well or how does this work?

>>58040122
No idea. I don't live in europe. Though even with VAT it'd still be cheaper, right?

>>58040132
Yeah about $7 cheaper or so.
Alright thanks for the help anon(s).

>>58039888
How good are the SHP9500s?

Was looking at Beyerdynamic DT770s, but if the Phillips are truly comparable to HD600s, I'll sacrifice having a closed back.

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Thinking of making the AKG K612s as my next big purchase, I'm a big fan of AKG because they fit my massive fucking head.

https://www.amazon.com/AKG-Pro-Audio-Reference-Headphone/dp/B00DCXZY1W/

Would a 120 ohm pair need an amp necessarily or would it just be helpful?

>>58040497
They're a steal for the price (in US), good sound and build qualities, very comfy. They're open though and DT770 are closed so you can't compare them.

>>58040524
if you have a decent mobo or a sound card you don't need an amp
if you have a cheapo mobo you might need an amp

>>58040497
as far as I know they're a good pair of 50$ headphones and after the price raise an okay pair of 80$ headphones

there's literally no reason to sacrifice anything for it because they're not exceptional

>Budget
100 bucks or less is ideal. Can stretch it to whatever if nothing I want is in this range
>Location
USA
>Source
Laptop, Iphone SE
>Type of headphone
Full sized with decent soundstage. Please nothing that requires modding out of the box to improve its quality
>Open or closed
Doesn't matter.
>Comfort level
As comfy as I can get
>Sound signature
I favor clarity and instrument separation, but I also want a slight bass boost or slight v shape please.

>>58040545
Define "decent mobo"

>>58040531
The thing killing me about DT770s is the cable, but they seem like the best isolating closed back ~$120.
But hearing about some headphone for 1/2 the price, that is comparable to a $300 god-tier headphone makes me rethink.

Certified Memephones:

M50x
598 CS
Skullcandies
Beats

>>58040555
>>Type of headphone
>Full sized with decent soundstage. Please nothing that requires modding out of the box to improve its quality
>>Open or closed
>Doesn't matter.

>want soundstage
>doesn't matter if open or closed
except it does matter then
seeing as you live in the US, go to some audio store and try out Sennheiser HD598/558, it might fit your needs but you might not like it
If not, consider Hi2050 if you don't mind a pretty strong V shape and SHP9500 if you do


>>58040560
a mobo that isn't shit, when you were building your pc (I hope it's not a prebuilt), did you think "oh motherboards don't really add anything, I'll just get this cheap one with the inputs I need"

>Look up critical reviews of headphones
>Set a couple of low star ratings
>"OH THEY SOUND AMAZING!!! But the cable not being detachable makes them automatically shit"

I fucking hate Audiophiles

>>58040595
I meant it doesn't matter because what I asked for is slightly redundant. Open backs generally don't have a boosted bass/v shape, and closed backs don't generally have a decent soundstage, so I'm willing to go either route. I appreciate your suggestions, I think the SHP9500 is most interesting. Is the x2 basically an upgrade of the same sound signature?

>>58040553
So for example, a $130 Fostex T50RP would give me a better experience than the "magical 9500s"?

>>58040595
No, I thought I'd buy a separate sound card and not rely on questionable tech.

When did Audio-Technica become Beats By Dre tier

>>58040497
9500's aren't comparable to 600's. Anyone who thinks so is either deaf or just shitposting.

They're good, but they're not that good.

>>58040605
Customer reviews are rarely useful for actual sound quality.

>>58040625
Yes. Even more yes if you actually mod them.

>>58040626
then you're good, unless you haven't bought it yet
in which case ????

>>58040625
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/FostexT50RPMk3.pdf
jesus christ how fucking horrifying
might as well just buy a 668b instead of those things

>>58040632
They aren't. Dunno what you've been smoking.

>>58040605
how expensive were they?
Detachable cables on 300+$ are pretty much a make or break point for me because I don't want to have to buy a new pair of headphones because the cable breaks, you know the thing that happens with just about every pair of headphones ever made

>Want to buy a pair of 700x
>Everyone says to go buy a pair of 700s that are discontinued because the 700x is china built tier
>No 700s anywhere

Am I getting memed

>>58040572
Well, you have to realize that all the brands dedicated to headphones mostly just reuse the same driver in different packages, only the frame's build and earpads change from model to model until you jump into the next price range. Just look at people "modding" their headphones to change sound signature, it's the same thing.

Philips is a mainstream brand and headphones is only a minuscule part of their business so they don't make as many models, there's a flagship open, flagship closed, portable, earbuds and the poorfag model which would be SHP9500.
They're good because of competition (not catering to audiophiles but normies) and because it's often cheaper to just have a few good models than a dozen copies in different colors. Old and established brands like Sennheiser can get away with absolute dogshit build quality even in their midrange because people will buy them anyway, the same goes for garbage like Beats but for normie reasons.

Back to the topic, they really don't compare to HD600, they're just very good for the price. Build quality and comfort are better though.

>>58040652
>in which case ???
I'm a different anon, ask
>>58040524

>>58040688
>stealing some other anon's (You)s
not cool man

>>58040674
The build is fine if you don't toss them around. Build quality on the OG 700's is hardly any better.

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-e-mu-purpleheart?referer=2YVXYC?mode=guest_open

>collab with E-MU
do these guys even make good headphones?
I've never heard of them before

>>58040800
They're a foster brand.

Those are just 100+ dollar CALs that are purple

>>58040813
Fostex*

>>58025641
I am looking for dongle like dac/amp combos. Budget 300-350$, so far found Geek out GO2A and DACportable centrance. I am in EU tho, and delivery for at least DACportable will be 80$ and I might as well get Chord mojo for 430$. What should I do?

>>58040915
>dongle-like
Why not wireless

>>58040915
>dongle like dac/amp combos
???

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>>58040664
>because I don't want to have to buy a new pair of headphones because the cable breaks
Not knowing how to easily solder in a new one SHIGGYDIGGY

>>58041101
>open up the headphones to solder in a new wire
>a nest of spiders is inside

>>58041171
>>58041101
guys im hungry

>Budget
<$50
>Location
US Pref Amazon
>Source
Computer mobo
>Type of headphone
Full sized
>Open or closed
Closed
>Comfort level
Comfort slightly more important than sound

The can on my current headphones broke off and I keep having to glue it on, but no matter how careful I am, it will eventually break again.
I just need some cheap headphones that won't hurt my head to wear for extended periods of time. I'm not a big audiophile or anything so I don't mind if the quality isn't great or anything. As long as it isn't like noticeably tinny or something

>>58041186
Also despite saying <50, cheaper is better. I really don't have much money since I don't have a job while school is out.

>>58041186
probably best to just buy some hm5 pads and a cheap pair of headphones like the 8323 or the th02

>>58041210
Are they that bad without the pads?

>>58041186
I could live with open headphones too if its cheaper to get comfy ones,
Headphone band digging into the side of my head on the side with the missing can. This is hell

>>58041186
>>58037247

>>58041289
in this case also have a look to see if you can get legitimate (read: not from aliexpress) hi2050

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>>58040921
Wireless dac/amp whaaaaaat?
>>58040947
>>58040915

I mean shit like on pic, or maybe I am just a retard and it's called usb dac instead.

>>58041352
I know what you meant
I wondered why the fuck you would ever want that

>>58039184

HD650 and a dac/amp, origen+ or smsl m6

>budget
$20-30
>loc
amazon.de
>source
honor 7
>type
in-ear

i'm a poorfag but i like to do some research

Have anyone tried DT1990 PRO yet?

>>58041534
https://www.amazon.de/gp/offer-listing/B00B9BDNUS/ref=dp_olp_all_mbc?ie=UTF8&condition=all

http://en.goldenears.net/22319

What are the differences between the normal HM5 pad and the angled one?

>>58041613
The angled ones are angled

>>58041613
Comfort maybe? I don't know but here is graphs.
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/NVXXPT100FlatPads.pdf
http://www.innerfidelity.com/images/NVXXPT100AngledPads.pdf

This link have no angled pads http://en.goldenears.net/15167

>>58041375
I have a notebook set up and I want something small to be besides it to plug into, not a black box. I will be also moving around quite some in the coming half a year, and when I will eventually get a decent pair of in ears having a portable 'dongle' will be a nice bonus. But mostly I just don't want have anything noticeable on my table.

>Budget
100 CAD (around 75 USD)
>Location
Canada
>Source
Laptop
>Type of headphone
Full Sized
>Open or close
Open
>Comfort level
Does not really matter
>Sound signature
Does not really matter
>Past headphones
shit

>>58041833
hi2050

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I recently lost one of the XS caps for my AKG 323XS in ears, and sadly none of the other sizes which are included with the IEMs feel comfortable for me (even S). What good and very small replacements does /hpg/ use?

>>58025381
>Buy HD558's on sale + some coupon jewry for 59 gbp last week.
>Arrive today.
>Put them on.

What's with all this fucking bass. Everything sounds like it's been streamed through a stone tunnel. I feel like I'm traveling on a bus whenever a ounce of bass on anything kicks in.

My 22 gbp plantronic headset is more accurate than this.

What a fucking meme.

>>58037383
Yeah they used to hurt a lot under the glasses arms when wearing them for extended periods.

They stopped hurting a while back though and now they're just comfy af, may or may not have dents in my skull now.

>>58037210
>he cant afford actually an expensive pair of headphones, but goes for those cheap 159$ pieces of shit

Poorfag

>>58038244
Dogshit ->880 ->770 -> 990

>>58038639
>dirty USB
Even on the PCI sound card I had previous to this? Reminder this only happens when coming over the monitors not the headphones plugged into the same device.

>>58041540
Probably another shitty "Tesla" headphone by Beyer.

>>58041548
Woah that is a nice response. Anyone got experience with these? How's the build? Any reason why they aren't recommended here more? That is going to sound very good.

>>58042145
>falling for snapheiser meme

>>58042145
Wait what's wrong with the bass exactly?

>>58030234
I also bought a pair from thomann and they're quality as i'm sure you already know. The 712's were great overall but the bass wall a little strong and what I'd describe as sloppy. I sold them and bought hd600's. Never looked back.

>>58037312 here
Did a test with my mixer that doesn't have this issue that uses XLR to the monitors. Has USB so I'm using it as an interface for my PC right now. Turned on a game that would cause the noise to usually increase and no noise at all. Switched back to my USB DAC using RCA to the same monitors and the noise is back. I guess that's it. Gonna pick up some balanced cables to use with my DAC to my monitors.

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Gonna buy these Souls By Ludacris for $40.

Good deal?

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>>58043507

>>58043507
an amazing deal dude, you should get as many copies as you can and sell them back at a profit

>>58043507
Are you a nigger?

>>58043227
>I sold them and bought hd600
How's the bass on those? I've listened to the 598 and their bass isn't to my liking too much. I want something between mine and the 598s basically

>>58034605
Yes but they've been tweaked internally, Headroom had graphs where you can see the bass output was significantly higher than the Q701 which got a good seal on their dummy head.

Another example is HD518 and HD558, same driver but the former produces a lot more bass.

>>58035562
I find the grado's quite uncomfortable on the ears ( I have a big head). Is there any way I can remedy that?

>>58043828
buy good headphones

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are these the best noise cancelling earbuds? i'd never buy over the ear bose, but it seems it's the consensus that these are the best earbuds. i need a pair for my new work, fucking open offices man.

>>58043897
buy over the ear bose
QC is the best noise cancelling

>>58043682

buy the HD650

>>58043953
Those just have a small bump in the mid bass / lower mids, don't they? I'm more interested in the extension - the k712 have god like extension for me personaly

>>58043963

you have the k712? have you tried the 400i?

>>58043976
Twice the price so out of the question

https://www.massdrop.com/buy/massdrop-x-fostex-th-x00-ebony-headphones?referer=2YVXYC?mode=guest_open

>499
weren't these 399?

>>58043985

Have you tried the Fidelio X2? those might be what you are looking for

>>58044072
No but I've read bad things about those, like slighly recessed mids, V shape signature.

Yea, I's very hard to please me.

>>58043843
are they really that bad?

>>58044106
they're not THAT bad, but they're not good

>>58044102

if i were you i would go for the HD650 and just EQ from 15hz to 0 (is pretty audible if you EQ) and lower the rest, i use the HD600 and boosted the sub bass that way

>>58043897
>best noise cancelling earbuds
Yes and no.
In this case the in-ear Bose ANC is tuned to cancel out a narrow range of frequencies in the upper bass. It does that range better than anything else.
The passives can block out more sound than the Bose in-ears overall.

How durable are the Etymotic Research products?

I want IEM's that cancel noise very well that I can use to work out.

I'm leaning towards the Shure SE215 but the etymotics good too if it won't break easily.

>>58044256
> Sweating all over a pair of IEMs
I don't think any brand will last long regardless unless they're sweat proof

>>58040800
>paying for wooden cups and expecting it to make a difference
>implying that even if there was a measurable difference to appropriately damped plastic cups, there is no arbitrary variation inherent to wood

And this is why the headphone market is innovating so slowly, because even the 'enthusiasts' are stupid. Smyth Realizer has been out for nearly a decade and next to nobody wants it compared to meme multibit.

>>58044256
They're durable but not suited for working out that involves a lot of movement because of the microphonics.

Is the focal elear a good upgrade from the senn HD600?

>>58044351
I imagine there's still a plastic cup inside and the wood is just for looks

German maestro gmp 400 open/closed on massdrop now for 165$ What those headphones are? Hod do they sound?

>>58044256
Etys besides the ER-4 don't have a detachable cable. The Shure does, which is a serious advantage for it.
I don't recall SE215 having too many protective filters by default, besides the ones installed on the Shure foams.

Shure in-ears are hard to insert deep and subject to occlusion effect, Etymotics have lousy cable noise.
You can work your way around either problem, but they both have some issues.

hey guys i'm purchasing my first Dac/Amp and looking for some feed back. I use senn 598's and am considering the FiiO E10K. people have mentioned its a good amp and I am wondering if it would be a good choice based on the experience of someone that owns it.

>>58044582
e10k is basically the go to dac/amp here

>>58044596
I think the Fulla 2 takes its place now unless you want that coaxial out

>>58044596
good news, thanks for your input

Any good M50x replacement earpads?
What about velour pads, what advantage and disadvantages do they have?

>>58044610
really? ive never head of that one is there any particular reason for it over the e10k?

>>58044582
The e10k is very good and will cause permanent damage to your hears on the 598 if you crank it all up

>>58044610
>more expensive
>less features
really? Why is it better?
do most of you guys prefer how it looks or something?

I also think the e10k gets an edge because it's reasonably portable
that huge knob on the top looks like suffering if you want to carry the fullashit in your pocket

>>58044641
The potentiometer controls both the headphone out and the line out if you want to connect powered speakers.
The DAC used is the same chip on the more expensive schiit equipment
The amp is slightly more powerful than the e10k

I'd personaly just get it to control both the speakers and the headphones

>>58044659
I don't use speakers as the walls in my apartment aren't particularly thick but if the build quality is higher ill probably get it. could someone that has both chime in possibly?

>>58043237
Got my balances cables. No more noise using the DAC. Holy shit finally. This problem has followed me for years across multiple devices. I never thought it was because of this.

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>>58044695
>someone that has both

>>58044739
yeah.... its a stretch but I cant really find a reason to buy one over the other looking at the specs maybe ill just get the fulla because its a bit cheaper? I dont really know what Dac brands are considered trusted.

>>58043963
I'm the guy who swapped his 712's for 600's and they're perfect to me besides the bass which could be a tad stronger although it was much more natural sounding than the sloppy 712 bass. I've also tried out the 650's and I could barely hear a difference in terms of bass. All I know is that the overall sound signature wasn't as good as the 600's. They're the best headphones I've ever tried. I don't even look at headphones anymore and I barely come here now for the same reason.

What a a good DAC for under 250? I use X2s so power isn't really a concern. I just need a mic and 3.5 in. I like house and classic rock and some vidya like csgo sometimes

>>58044582
e10k my dude. I use it with my hd600's. It will be monstrous with your 598's.

>>58044833
thanks for the advice, how do you like the 600's? have you used 598's how would you say they compare? I am thinking of upgrading and Im really big on vocal clarity/quality and senns seem to nail them.

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>>58044808
Since I fully agree with headroom on their measurements now that I've listened to the 712s, do you also agree that the 650s treble is too laid back? The bass seems to be pretty good, just need to increase the sub bass on an EQ. The 600s seem to have bass similar to the 702s that i owned previously and found them a bit too weak in that department.

>>58044351
The ignorant and loud enthusiasts are a big problem. They form an echo chamber of opinions and they are simultaneously the people who many buyers look for advice. Standards are low, manufacturers get away with releasing absolutely terrible gear as there's always a group of apologists among the consumers to defend whatever kind of garbage gets released. There's plenty of science behind good sound but such a vast amount of "audiophiles" choose not to listen or believe it, often because it contradicts whatever they have experienced in conditions which leave a lot of room for various kind of cognitive biases. There are very little standards to uphold, very little limitations in what you can market and only a few places where you can get reliable information about many audio products. Specs are inconclusive, reviewers do not measure the gear and when you can trust neither, you are purchasing products blind and worsening the problem.

>>58044424
It's not an upgrade IMO.

But I'm one of the HD600 memers on here.

>>58044934
AKG 7##/612 is known for being treblemonster

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>Budget
100CAD is the top. Maybe a bit more
>Location
Canada
>Source
Galaxy Player 4.2
>Type of headphone
IEMs with either active noise cancelling or a nice isolating/passive setup.
>Comfort level
They're IEMs, so hopefully a nice snug fit.
>Sound signature
Neutral, clear sound desired.

Currently looking at these:

Etymotic MC5s - https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B003S3RFIQ

And these 2:
ATH-ANC33iS - https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B00CL3TAOQ/
ATH-ANC23 - https://www.amazon.ca/dp/B004K09H32/

But what I'm questioning about the Audio Technicas is... what's the difference between the two? The only thing I can find is that the ANC23 has a Y-Cable setup, and I think no mic/device button, but it's somehow more expensive?

Thanks for any suggestions. Something I can get in the next week would be best.

>>58044934
Under a ideal seal K702 has more bass than HD600 but the K702's seal varies a lot, I think the HD600 bass response is adequate, it does lack some deep sub-bass but music doesn't sound thin because of it. It has more bass than my studio monitors which sound a bit thinner in comparison because the HD600 is a bit emphasized at around 100Hz. The HD600 and HD650 have the same bass response, it's just that the HD650 has less upper midrange and treble response so it appears as it has less bass, and that's correct depending on how you level the frequency response measurements.

>>58045029
https://www.amazon.ca/Etymotic-Research-Isolator-Noise-Isolating-Earphones/dp/B00OQG7IC2/

MC5 sucks, get MK5.

>>58045084
Hell, these arrive before christmas too. Thing is, why wouldn't I get the ATH's, which actually have active noise cancelling? Can I return the Etymotics if I've used them?

>>58045097
Etymotic has the best passive noise isolation in the industry and they make the most neutral IEMs.

The MK5 is extremely neutral.

Don't know about the ATs, they might have a typical consumer oriented sound.

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>>58042006
polite bump
also the word I was looking for wasn't "caps" but "earbuds"

>>58045120
I can only compare anything active based to the Sony MDR-NC13s I have, only issue is this is the 3rd damn pair of them. The biggest problem with these Sony's is that the wire connection frays between the headphones and the noise-cancelling unit, and it's a bitch to get it working again.

http://www.amazon.com/Sony-MDRNC13-Noise-Canceling-Headphones/dp/B004P7O26W

>>58045177
http://www.head-fi.org/t/685312/new-akg-k323-xs

Check that thread for compatible tips.

>>58045188
The Etymotcs are durable but they're no tank either, the carrying case helps a lot with longevity too. I have no experience with those Sonys or ATs.

>>58045213
Cool. Thanks for the info. Still not sure if they can be returned on Amazon if I don't like them? Comes out to just under 100$ with 2-day shipping, arriving the 21st.

Also curious, some people comment on the uncomfortable eartips, or something about them filling in uncomfortably. What's up with that?

>>58045243
I live in the US. Don't know about Canada but I can return almost anything that I've bought on amazon.

The Etymotics go in a bit deeper than your average IEM, it comes with a variety of tips in the box. If you take your time and try them all, you will find one that suits you. There's also aftermarket tips but I think the included sets are enough. If you earcanals are seriously odd shaped I think they'll be an issue.

https://www.amazon.com/SoundMAGIC-Noise-Isolating-Earphones-Gunmetal/dp/B005HP3OB0

Are these really as good as /hpg/ and the reviews make them out to be? Especially on the isolation front...?

Bought a pair of Momentum 2 In-Ears
How badly did I fuck up?

>>58045458
>Momentum 2 In-Ears
They look like a scuba lmao

>>58044939
These are the same people who will buy into >muh closed-form time and frequency-domain optimized multibit filter.

Funny that they wouldn't spend that money getting their HRTFs measured and equalized for via the Smyth Realizer, because apparently its shitty virtual surround, despite the clear science behind HRTFs.

>Budget
<€250
>Location
Austria
>Source
Fiio X3 II
>Type of headphone
Full-sized, over Ear, want to carry them around
>Open or closed
closed
>Comfort level
high Comfort is preferred
>Past headphones
i use AKG K702 at home, i like the comfort, but i have mixed feelings about the sound

>>58044864
Never used 598's before but like I said to the other guy, after buying the 600's I never look at headphone stuff anymore besides rarely coming here to give casual advice mostly.

Vocals and general sound effects sound literally perfect, the highs aren't harsh at all and the overall sound is amazing but maybe with a very slight warmth (compared to the 702's at least for example)

They're my end game headphone. The only downside to them is the lack of nigga bass if you care about that and the headband is a bit plasticky. However it won't snap unless you stretch to like 3 times the width of your head like a retard. Just put them on a headrest and nothing will happen to them.

Are the DT-770s the supreme closed back$150 headphone?

>>58045853
>The only downside to them is the lack of nigga bass
A small low shelf filter should "fix" this, no?

>>58044934

I'm the guy that you're talking to and yes I'd say the treble and detail are slightly worse on the 650 compared to the 600, they're also a touch warmer and don't sound as nice overall.

The other guy who replied to you said this

>Under a ideal seal K702 has more bass than HD600

This is bullshit, I started out with the 702 and they're amazing headphones when it comes to detail and soundstage but the bass was very short and didn't extend at all. The 600 bass isn't what you'd call strong but it has a decent extension to it and combined with the slight warmth overall (though less warm than the 650) it makes the 600 the perfect headphone imo. It's been the top dog for so long for a reason, without spending thousands at least. And we both know that's fucking retarded.

>>58045914
I don't know what you mean, do you mean an EQ lol? if so yes. They don't need much more though.

so im looking at senn 600's and 650's and they are almost the same price right now i would assume the 650's would be the ones to get but does anyone have an input?

>>58046091
You can't go wrong with either one, but I personally prefer the 600s. Get them or wait until the 6XX gets refreshed.

>>58045812
>write a bunch of shit
>notice you want closed not open
well dick

Maybe try MSR7

>>58046136
i noticed they recently revamped the 5XX line would it be reasonable to expect the 6XX revamp soon?

hey gentoomen

my qc25 needs a wire for to go from my iphone 6s+ to my qc25

is this wire okay
https://www.amazon.ca/Premium-Replacement-Cable-Comfort-Headphones/dp/B01BL2HYRM/ref=sr_1_3?ie=UTF8&qid=1482000663&sr=8-3&keywords=qc25+replacement+wire

it looks like the one that sells for 5 dorra on ebay

>>58046148
i like open more, but i can't use them outside.

thank you

>>58045642
The Realiser falls into its own niche, one that it does well. As nice as it is at doing that, I don't want it.
You also need to keep in mind that the Realiser A8 has cost more than a lot of the popular products bandied around by headphone aficionados.

>closed-form time and frequency-domain optimized multibit filter.
This isn't the most outrageous thing DAC vendors have claimed. Not by a long shot.
At least it refers to something that can be tested and is falsifiable.

>>58045642
>muh closed-form time and frequency-domain optimized multibit filter
Yeah that's a good example of something that a manufacturer hyped up and people took their word for it, mostly Moffat's claims and the followers. While Moffat knows his electronics he doesn't seem to understand human perception and how these two relate, or in this case, do not relate. It didn't stop many people from believing it without an ounce of skepticism, even if they understood even less about the filter or the qualities of sound it was supposedly altering. It sure is easy to ride with a title when the enthusiasts are dumber than you.

I find it frustrating and boring to read almost any audio forums, articles or subreddits when a large amount of posts is part of this circlejerk among audiophiles giving awful advice, empty claims and nonsensical descriptions of sound based on nothing but listening impressions. It's like nobody actually wants to know but are content with answers which adhere with their experience, kind of a comfort zone which is getting nowhere. Worse yet is when these aspects of sound are then tied into some pseudo-scientific explanations in order to make it more believable when there's peer-reviewed studies on the subject already available. I also do not fathom the concept of "hunting the perfect sound" when you have no goal and your only point of reference is an aging memory.

I can't think of a comparison either. In so many technology related interests and hobbies the enthusiasts are often quite knowledgeable about the subject or at the very least aren't swayed by words or someone's experience alone. I don't imagine a videophile would buy a projector with no published performance data or install it without calibration.

>>58046385
Any memories of dumber things claimed?

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>>58046195

WHEN WILL THE OH WISDOM OF THE AUDIOPHILE GRACE ME WITH HIS REPLY

OH HOW I CANNOT WAIT FOR THEIR MAGICAL WORDS

ALL HEIL LORD OF THE AUDIOPHILES

>>58046349
nothing, QC is recommended here often for people who want ANC
few people probably have them

what's the worst that could happen if you buy them, if they suck, just go complain to sller & charge back money

I like the LS-160s, surprisingly. I thought that I would hate them, and they actually work great (even though they glitch on PC, but that is because they are not made for PC), but I wish I could get more bass. I don't always listen to D&B, so they're fine for the most part, but what other headphones in the $100-200 range are great at handling heavy bass?

>>58046493
Fucking this, I'm trying to get opinions on what my next headphone should be, so I watch ZeosPantera and metal571(or whatever) and every review tells me nothing. EVERY REVIEW says "these are best headphones but the treble is too high"
And don't get me started about that old fuck from innerfidelity.

>>58045957
>bullshit
It isn't. Don't let your experience cloud the discussion. K702 bass response varies a lot because of its earpads.

>>58047000
there has never been a single measured instance where what you are trying to imply has been evidenced

how about you stop passing off your uninformed opinions as facts and stop letting that cloud the discussion.

>>58046195
literally any cable is fine. People trying to tell you their cables are better are just selling snakeoil

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I figured this might be a good place to ask. I just picked up a mint looking Onkyo TX-SV636 from the local thrift store for $30 US. First receiver, how did I do?

pic related

>>58047126
what's the purpose of receivers anyway?

Philips X2/27 Fidelio on sale on Amazon for $199

>>58047258
x2 aren't even worth $99 let alone $199

>>58047256
Fancy equalizer/amp/output switch. They do a bunch of shit.

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>Looking for BLUETOOTH headphones.
I only own wired headphones. Need bt ones now.

>Budget: around 300
>Location: Germany
>Source: Tablet/Phone (but with Fiio Dac/amp)
>Type of headphone: over ear
>Open or closed: closed
>Comfort level: whatever
>Sound signature: neutral (a little bassy is ok. but not muddy!)
>Past headphones: Akg K550, K702 Annie, K500, K400, Fidelio X2

I'm willing to try out new stuff. (new to me at lest) Audio Technica, Sony, whatever.

>>58047256
being all-in-one home theater boxes

>>58047025
There has, see the Harman paper.

>>58047375
post it here

>>58045907
Unless you want neutral, yes.

>>58046195
literally any stereo cable will work
theyre like a dollar on ebay

>>58041748
>>58041352
Sads

>>58048241
I already have a pair of pretty neutral headphones.
I'm looking at the Fostex T50RP MK3 or the DT770s now. Only problem is I only have a new mobo to power them.

How can I reduce radio interference? I've got a rather bad problem with it.

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Xiaomi are good right? is there a difference between hybrid original and hybrid coil?

>>58046493
>While Moffat knows his electronics
I wrote a little something on the problems with the claims, independent of human perpection.
I also don't think he's especially good.

>he doesn't seem to understand human perception and how these two relate
A bit tangentially, I found myself wondering this with something Doug Self wrote about crossover distortion.

>I find it frustrating and boring to read...
This is more of my thoughts on the matter, but I think you're going about this in the wrong way. These forums generally exist for consumer product discussion. You can't really demand that these people know the subject deeply.


>memories of dumber things claimed?
I was going to suggest something about the transient response of DSD or why we didn't put in the reconstruction filter.

Thinking it over, most nonsense about digital comes down to
-Sampling theorem
-Naive ideas about the Fourier transform
-Not understanding properties of the DFT
-Definition/jargon confusion
And combinations of the above.

>55 max
>usa
>laptop
>want comfy closed back headphones, if there is something amazing for a great price open back is fine
>i don't know. probably boosted bass
>hd202s forever