GitHub is losing piles of cash

>>58021138
already using bitbucket
github doesn't even have private repos without paying

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>>58021521
>already using bitbucket
aren't they as bad as SJWhub?

>>58021577
dunno, at least they being sjw is not a meme
how hard is it to host your own git server anyway?

>>58021138
>>58021577
why don't these cunts just stay on facebook?

>not hosting your own

>>58021577
Bitbucket is atlassian which is an Aussie company, they're not excessively sjw.

What happened to the old days of the Internet where developers just had a .zip file with their program's source code on their website and that was that? Why do you need all this GitBucket bullshit?

>>58021920
>>not hosting your own
How? VPS and shit? What software?

i just use git since no one else works on my projects anyway

>>58022005
http://www.linux-magazine.com/Online/Features/Install-Your-Own-Git-Server

look at what a single search on ddg or any other non-google search engine can render

>>58021860
i'll trigger your g-spot, slut.

>>58021613
Not hard but doesn't have features like issue tracking, PRs, etc

Self-hosted gitlab master race reporting in.

Get the fuck off my internet, github.

>>58021969
>I don't actually know anything, BUT I'M GONNA ACT LIKE I DO

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>shithub
not even once!

btw, anyone remember when this shit went down? those were fun times on /g/

>>58022576
Feels good m8. The only thing that I have about it is that is uses a shitload of RAM even when idling.

>>58022676
wtf i hate github now

If you have a hard time not being an asshole, maybe you should reconsider your life.

I'm not confused why github is losing money.
I'm confused why github is making money.

Its a free, open source, source code catalogue with real-time updating and branching pathways, I thought it was supposed to be a non-profit.

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Fuck off, the real reason you shouldn't use github is that it's a proprietary cloud service, not >Le SJWs are hurting tech meme

>>58023237
It's a business that has a SaaS model, not a non profit you retard

>>58021613
checkout gogs

>>58023248
I've never had to pay for github.
When did that start?

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>>58021138

>>58021138
>Women get involved in coding
>They ruin everything

gee what a surprise

>>58022653
He isn't wrong, open source software existed before the mid 00's.

>white people
>mental breakdowns over someone posting an eggplant in a discussion thread

>>58022165
>getting offended on chan
>lashing out with an insult

Welcome, newest of fags!

>>58023237
Github is not open source.

>>58023238
God she is adorable

>>58023410
Not that anon but, pretty sure that was jest and not actual malice.

>>58023410
>Can't take an insult

I think you just revealed your power level anon

lurk more

>>58022676
I'm going to use "retard" as a verb in a repo (something like "___ results in severely retarded response times") and see if I get the same email.

>>58023436
>She

>>58023507
>""""""TRIGGERED""""""

>>58023430
Isn't that just smart business?

>>58021138
>not running gogs on your own server
I mean, this this what /g/ has digressed to?

>the CEO looks like a fucking nu-male
Well there's your problem.

>>58021138
>getting this hiney harassed over an emoticon

>>58023654
welcome to
>women in tech
>applel users
>womyn "coders"

I am not very good with computers so someone please explain to me what github provides beyond an issue tracking thing and a repository? Like why dont people just use launchpad and bazzar (both AGPL)

Didn't Webm for Retards have to get rehosted onto a new site because github didn't like the name?

>>58023693
it provides safe spaces for this >>58023672 demographic

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>>58023466

>>58023436
>she

>>58021577
> Django cucks encourage and accept patches from these degenerates

> Based Rails creator DHH tells them to fuck off as he drives around in his new Ferrari J50

>>58023763
>Based Rails creator DHH
he's not based. he's a Hillary shill. he hated Trump and called him a racist for opposing illegal immigration. DHH is a fucking shithead. Hope he gets deported back to that shitty (now islamic) countyr he's from.

>>58023789
DHH voted for Trump.

>>58023856
You're just bitter that the women won't let you see, let alone touch, their titties.

>>58023436
Without makeup she is a 4/10, it's kinda funny

>>58023908
Stop that meme right now. The people who hate women the most are the ones who have had to actually deal with them. If you've not been with one, you put their pussy on a pedestal, hoping for a chance to have sex.
I don't know how you can begin to defend these women who will never fuck you instead of supporting this fellow man on /g/ who would have your back in another thread.

>>58023937
>this fellow man who would have your back in another thread.

He is likely to stab me in my chest with a wooden spoon if he could cop a peek at her titties.

>>58021138
That is genuinely fucking pathetic if that reaction was over a simple eggplant emoji.

>>58021138
>>58021577
>>58021664
>Triggered by *instalgen2*
You cucks probably voted in november

Well this is what happens when you spend millions of dollars on social justice programs.

Good thing git is distributed.
Although I'd suspect a huge amount of github users don't even know what this means and will cry when it inevitably shuts down.

who gitlab here

>>58024857
Most github users think git was invented by github and that git and github are one and the same.
It's disgusting.

>>58024871
I've seen people confused by this on /g/ and in my CS classes as well.
I think it's hilarious rather than disgusting.

>>58024867
gitlab rules. fuck sjwhub and fuck giving your code to others.

>>58024871
what is the point of git anyways

>>58024893
To provide distributed source control and versioning, allowing branching and all other manner of neatness.

>>58022165
How are you going to do that, Anon?

>>58024893
source code version control
99% of git users don't require version control for their personal projects, it's just a hip and trendy thing to put all your shit on github

>>58021920
What self-hosted git front-end would you use? GitLab is a pile of trash, so is cgit.

None have the clean interface, features or comfort level of shithub, which is the reason why I still use it. But if it's true that they're dying then we will need to step up the alternatives game FAST

>not using gitgud.io

Why care?
Who doesn't self-host?
>>58024924
I use gitbucket. Mainly because practically nobody looks at my stuff and it was easy to set up.

>>58024893
it's a site that lets you save your 5000-file zip packages, so every time you make a change to 1 line of code, it gets another zip file
>other people can see your old fuckups and fork that to try to get rich quick and end up failing
>meanwhile you still sperg over that one line you overlooked 6 versions ago

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>>58024944
>not running gitlab on your own server

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>>58025100
>not using deep web git

>>58025100
Isn't gitlab completely overkill and bloated for a personal repo? I remember people complaining about it being unable to run on cheap VPS.
Gogs is good enough.

>>58025120
It is, I was half joking since the site linked was a gitlab host. You probably want to run something lighter for just a personal repo. You could probably even build something from scratch-ish to act as both a portfolio and a git if you really wanted to.

Gitlab is nice for a private company git though. I like their merge request/code review a lot, and no problems so far (at least ones that weren't due to ops fucking up an upgrade) at work since we switched from svn a couple years ago.

>>58021138
>>58021577

no productive human being gives a shit

>>58025178
Now that I think about it, I do wish it was easier to keep a specific project's changes in sync with github from gitlab, since we have a couple of open sourced applications and usually pushing our patches to github is a pain in the ass since we have to manually check a bunch of stuff (not leaving in stuff like api keys, staff emails, local db passwords, or utilities that we bundle in house).

>>58021138
kek Thanks OP I have to cook that eggplant I bought before it expires

>>58025223
kek'd. got any good eggplant recipes ? I hear eggplant parm is great.

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>>58021138
>tfw some new hire, female of course, uses emojis in code reviews on our git
>tfw have to review a patch from her for the first time last week
>some fucking overcomplicated python code that could've been done in a 1 liner (2 liner maybe) is spread over almost 15 fucking lines
>that same snippet also assigns useless variables that are never used and then assigns a completely different type object to the same variable for no understandable reason
>pic related, the only thing I commented on that diff

my manager thought it was funny but told me to not do it anymore because he didn't want to have to listen to her complain about it if i did it again

fucking emojifags

>>58021138
>not hosting your own svn server or git server

how long until this gets banned?
https://github.com/cosarara97/fucking-weeb

>>58025368
It's written in scheme, so probably never

Only hipster python/javashit/ruby stuff gets targeted by SJW because those are the only languages dumbed down enough for them to “learn”

>>58025368
neat

http://www.cosarara.me/jaume/files/videos/fucking-weeb.webm

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>>58023436
>she

>>58023466
"retarded" is not a verb, retard

>>58025446
Fucking hell, this does it. I can't take it anymore.

Time to start an anzu folder. Can this be an anzu thread now?

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>>58025468
no

>>58025461
>"retarded" is not a verb
Yes it is.

>>58021521
>2016
>not using gitlab

>>58025479
Oh shit, I thought it is an adjective. Sorry, English is not my mother tongue.

>>58025499
Retard is a verb, retarded is the resultant state of retardation.

>>58025508
But it is past perfect, amirite?

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>>58025478
fixed

>>58025524
>dat armhair

>>58025533
it's cute tho

>>58025519
>But it is past perfect, amirite?
Yeah retarded is the past tense form of retard.
"We retarded their advance"

>>58021521
They found an exploit for that a while ago, dunno if it still works.
But then again, they would be the first ones I would not want to be able to see a private repo.

Make America Great Again

>>58021521
>>58025597
What's the point of having a private repo?

Sites like github etc. are literally only useful for sharing code with the public, and making stuff like issue trackers and documentation easily accessible to your users.

A private repo defeats the entire point. What do you even need github for then?

>>58025325
>Using tbat emoji to comment on the diff
Holy shit that's golden

>>58025524

Can't escape the turkroach arm hair.

>They're gonna die unless someone buys them out.

Good, just so they can learn. The only way to deal with snowflakes is to have them try their stupid shit until it fails catastrophically. Twitter better not be a thing in two years.

>>58025644
I think arm fuzz is cute. I don't like clean-shaven girls. Makes their skin seem cold and dead to the touch

>>58022165
I doubt you could find it yet alone 'trigger' it. 1/10 anon, bad post.

>>58025686
>cold and dead to the touch
Like you life :^)

>>58025533
>turkroach
>surprised it has armhair

Well, duh. Bandwidth doesn't come free. That's why the previous owners of sourceforge ended up resorting to bundling malware

>>58026235
It can be extremely cheap. Github probably have other things draining cash.

Transit in the US is at $0.2/Mbps and peering at more IXPs is free.

github is as much a "public good" as twitter and wikipedia are, to me. the fact that github runs itself as a for profit business just boggles my mind (maybe even more than it does with twitter). i strongly feel that github's investors should try to move it to a collectively governed not-for-profit platform similar to wikipedia but obviously with a more conventional "pro staff".

all this shit about SJWs is either a red herring or just some easily-triggered faggots on /g/ whining about their feelings being hurt. retards are everywhere. if you're not patrician enough to get shit done despite them existing in the same space as you, then do all of us a favor and kill yourself.

>>58021138
Github aimed to make money?

How?

>>58026276
by selling upgrades to accounts that allowed users to host private repositories.

the problem that they didn't quite anticipate was that
1) people like github for the social features, not the asocial/non-social ones, so public repositories were more desirable anyway, and
2) getting people to give a fuck about your repository is so goddamn hard as it is. there was a study of open source projects on sourceforge a while back (obviously before github was crushing SF) and the median number of contributors to "active" open source projects was 1.

so even public repositories are effectively private in the same way that, assuming there IS intelligent life other than us in the universe, there might as well not be for the fuckall we see or hear from them.

github tried also expanding to corporate accounts, and that's actually been kind of smart — let a company put a bunch of private/proprietary/sensitive code under private repositories, and bill on enterprise stuff — except that this business isn't really that big. and if you try to charge too much the company in question will just weigh the benefit of using github against making their own git service and running it in-house.

i'm not sure if it wouldn't have been smarter to charge people for being social instead of antisocial. that is, find some way to either charge users for running hyper-popular projects, OR (much more likely) charge people little bits (like microtransactions) for being involved in lots of projects.

neither option seems great, and it would cost me more money than the status quo, but the status quo has github hemorrhaging money, so they should find some way to get more money out of people, and maybe the people should be its users (rather than primarily businesses).

>>58026276
selling your data and code?

>>58021138
bitbucket and gitlab masterrace

>>58026376
Top post anon! How do you know all this?

>>58026270
>github is as much a "public good"
I feel the same way and that's exactly why them constantly giving attention to SJW is a problem. Such a service that has more users than a medium-sized country should have some free speech rules in place to avoid what happened with webm for retards, for example. Closing the original (abandoned) repo and ALL its branches with no prior notice should never happen.

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>>58026270
>dude modern liberals who shit on free speech and think everyone should be a thin skinned pc retard on the internet are not a problem lmao we should adapt to be passive aggressive cuckolds who get nothing of actual value accomplished just like them lmao

kill yourself literal human cancer

most likely github will be acquired by microgoogbook or whatever and will be operated as a way for them to mine people's source for whatever

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GNU is SJW, always has been.

The funny part is how Linux users complain about "SJW" whilst being unaware that that is exactly how they come across to everyone themselves.

>>58021138
It's funny how the word git is only used once in that article. Linus Torvalds isn't mentioned, and the article seems to imply that the underlying technology of github (git) was single-handedly created by github.

>>58023321
Mind if I use this logo?

Is it licensed under the GPL?

>>58026270
>>58026407
>public good
I didn't know we had disgusting commies on /g/. The private property is sacred, I would much rather have a free SJW company than a bunch of communists seizing that private labor and forcing freedom of speech.

>>58023304
Github has always had a premium model

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>seed a company with SJWs
>watch the stocks drop
>buy them
>remove SJWs
>PROFIT

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I'm kind of a newbie. What if you post a code to some project on github and somebody steal it?

>>58026376
>making their own git service and running it in-house.
It's worse than this (from GitHub's perspective), they don't even have to make it. There's already GitLab and Gogits (and I think maybe one other) offering self hosted alternatives.

>>58026643
Theres some basic licensing on github but for the most part its all considered open source. Private repos are for confidential stuff.

>bitbucket is better.

>>58026535
I assure you the stream of shit that comes out of my mouth prevents anyone from getting that impression.

>>58025626
>A private repo defeats the entire point. What do you even need github for then?


How do distributed teams share private, proprietary software, Trebek?

>>58026405
i study human-computer interaction, specifically computer supported cooperative work (which is a really vague way of saying "how people do shit (sometimes work, but usually not) with each other using technology"), and some sites (github, wikipedia, twitter, facebook depending on your relationship with them) have become common grounds for researchers, so we all become pretty familiar with the particulars of each of these platforms whether we use/like them or not.

there's a bit of research about 4chan, actually, but the biggest paper i've heard of was like "all of the shit we know about (successful) online communities is that you need X, Y, and Z. 4chan literally doesn't have any of these things, but by all accounts it's successful. huh???". beyond that it's quiet. same with study of online drug markets and prostitution and whatnot mediated by technology, etc... (you'd think that since a lot of illicit trade is mediated by trust the internet would be an impossible place for this stuff to work, but it *clearly* does work, so why?)

anyway, i digress.

>>58026407
there's not really a good solution to this problem. github is owned by someone. if it's owned by a corporate body/limited number of stockholders, then it has a responsibility to them. if they're owned by the public (in a sense like wikipedia), then the policies are still just determined by the people that show up. stephen fry ranted about how retarded it is that he can't fix a factual inaccuracy about his own page unless he does an interview with someone who publishes that thing he wants corrected.

if github goes full on collective-ownership, then we can make an argument that free speech is important, but we'd have to make an uphill battle to convincingly argue that we're not defending the "retard" case itself, but defending against a bad precedent that we would later regret

>>58026675

Got it. So if I want to keep my code safe I should either consider another kind of repo or pay for private repos

>>58021969
>What happened to the old days of programming when you just mailed each other boxes of punch cards?

>>58025626
>What's the point of having a private repo?

I have more than one computer, but I'm too lazy to maintain a git server manually.

Plus it's basically a free backup service for shit I don't want to share.

>>58022676
>28 July
>2 days ago
obviously fake and gay

>>58021138
Bitbucket isn't terrible. Gitlab is worth looking at, though -- it's what I use, at least.

>>58026440
i'm not a communist. i'm actually pretty right-leaning in general. there are just some things that we should have that clearly have no viable means of being profitable. on a very limited basis, we should consider making them public goods.

>>58026581
if you're going to take such an ideological stand about this, i don't know where you hope to connect with reality. you'll have to come down off your high horse.

>>58026649
sure. i just mean that facebook could pick up their toys and go elsewhere and once they do that github is never getting them back in the way a paper supplier might win back a customer that has gone to another supplier. Heroku has the same problem. once your needs grow past hobbyist stuff, heroku just doesn't seem equipped to remain competitive, and your best bet is to either move everything in-house *or* move things to AWS.

>>58023390
Yeah, they used CVS. It was awful, but it worked.

>>58026440
>>58026535
>>58026562
>>58026581
CIA nigger, is that you?

>>58024893
Ever thought
>I've got this great new modification for my code! I'm going to rewrite half of it!
Then end up with a bowl of non-functioning spaghetti with no idea how you got there?

Git let's you save a full version history of that code so you can roll back when you fuck up.

Git/hub/lab let you make that versioning publicly accessible

>>58026854
i mean a lot of people use git in a way that might as well be centralized. i remember in my undergrad people would meet up and make sure nobody was working on the same file because they were too afraid of dealing with git merge conflicts (to say nothing of the fact that there are practices they should've been using that would have largely prevented all merge conflicts in the first place)

>>58024893
>what is the point of git

It's like Windows, it keeps all the plebs away from the good stuff (svn, hg, perforce).

>>58024893
when you fuck something up, you can go back in time in a very very fine-grained way.

it's also nice for collaboration and stuff, but i have a repository of papers that i write (i'm >>58026802, grad student writing academic papers and shit) and being able to take a change and diff from an old change is really useful.

and honestly, git isn't that great for regular writing. it shines even more when you talk about proper code

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>>58022676
I wonder how I didn't never get a mail like that: the most frequent words in my repos are shit, fuck and nigger. I suppose is because those repos are shit "hello world tier" anyway

>>58026622
makes sense, after all SJWs are just useful idiots for the rich and powerful.

>>58023466
you won't for a few reasons:

1) you're using it in a substantively different way. the repo that was canned was something like "Webm for retards", as in the noun. if you use it as a verb, it's a different enough word.

2) the webm for retards repository was popular. it was in public view. masturbating in public isn't legal, but you're more likely to get away with it if you do it behind a dumpster in an alley than if you do it on a bench in a park.

3) the way you're using it is arguably unintentional. my hunch is that, especially after the drama with the webm repo, they're taking a more measured approach with cases where a word triggers some faggot.

also, as an aside, github owns their platform. if they wanted to summarily ban anyone who ever mentioned bananas, that would be their prerogative. it would be fucking nuts, but that's up to them. there's nothing explicit or even implicit in github's terms of service that suggests we have a right to access them.

this is why i encourage people working on controversial shit not to trust sites like github and whatnot; you may be parallel with their interests now, but that might just be an oversight on their part, or their interests might change and you'll be left in a lurch.

every single place on the internet is owned by someone, probably someone other than you. their right to make arbitrary decisions is more important than your right to say/do whatever you want. it's a hard truth to hit against, but all users are guests in someone else's house.

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>>58025325
How long would it of taken her to write it?

>>58026850
That's called expropriation and it's a communist tactic. You are not right leaning. You are a disgusting pinko and probably voted for Hillary as well.

Repeat after me
>PRIVATE
>FUCKING
>PROPERTY

Their company, their rules. Stealing that company and making it a public good is communism.

>>58026986
long enough to earn her day of pay

>>58027051
when i say "in general" that means in general, as in sometimes not. sorry if that was confusing. in general people understand english, but sometimes not.

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>>58027199

>>58027247
i honestly have no idea what you're trying to say here. do you think "in general" is double speak or something the way women use double speak?

>>58027051
By your logic, giving PUBLIC MONEY to PRIVATE ORGANISATIONS is also highly morally reprehensible, since you're complaining about the reverse.

>>58027269
it is, but morons are brainwashed to complain only when private gives to public

>>58024917
>it's just a hip and trendy thing to put all your shit on github
It's basically your resume if you're applying for tech jobs, too

>>58027281
It's almost as if a system where private organisations should be made representative of their constituents by having representative government give and take based on long-term prospects and the desires and needs of the people. In such a system, a person, and a private organisation would have different legal rights.

Nothing in the last paragraph is true in the US.

>>58024917
>99% of git users don't require version control for their personal projects, it's just a hip and trendy thing to put all your shit on github
what? this is nuts. you know that, right?

certainly most people don't need the features github (or even just git) offers, but saying people don't need version control is like a step away from saying people don't need to save their documents. don't even fucking say that shit. maybe you don't do anything that merits version control, but any document that ever changes would benefit from version control, and it's enough of a challenge to get people that need it to adopt it without uninformed idiots confusing users.

>>58027328
are you ready to bet that public taxes never went to private sector in USA?

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>>58021969

Kill yourself

>>58026908
Terry?

>>58026775
Using git?

>>58026835
>I have more than one computer, but I'm too lazy to maintain a git server manually.
“maintain” a “git server”? Do you even know what you're talking about?

git is decentralized/p2p, it doesn't even require a central server. This isn't your CVS system from the 80s, grandpa

>>58025626
i'm trying to understand what you think you're trying to say, because at face value this point is just stupid. maybe it would help to point out that "private" doesn't mean "only you". it just means "limited access" as in you invite people into that circle that can push/pull/etc...

>>58027593
>i'm trying to understand what you think you're trying to say,
Well from my point of view, the only value something like github has is that of the community; since it allows your project to be discoverable and gives people access to an easy-to-use wiki and issue tracker. It's also very familiar to other developers, so they'll be more likely to send you pull requests etc. due to a combination of the ease of use and high exposure.

There's no other value to github for me. I don't need a web GUI if all I care about is having version control for my software. Without the community, the site would add nothing. Ergo, private repositories defeat the entire purpose, to me.

>>58027269
Wow and now you're putting words in my mouth that I've never said. Public work is shit because it's always over budgeted and beyond schedule.

Stop trying to rationalize taking away from private enterprises
>muh public goods muh socialism muh power to the people

>>58027892
Dude you're retarded. Git is all about version control. If you're developing an open source application then public repos are the whole point of it, but if you're a company working on something of your own then you need private repos.
GIT IS SOURCE CONTROL ITS NOT FUCKING SOCIAL MEDIA FOR DEVELOPERS
Both public and private repos have their place

>>58027965
Maybe you should learn about the difference between github and git before you flail insults at others, kid

>>58026836
This was 2 or 3 years ago IIRC. The guy was posting about it on /g/.

>>58027985
Github is a git solution to avoid wasting time on setting up your own git server. Maybe you should learn that the world doesn't run on public open source software.

>>58027998
>Github is a git solution to avoid wasting time on setting up your own git server.
Git is serverless

>Maybe you should learn that the world doesn't run on public open source software.
Git is open source. Not sure what you're trying to imply here

>>58028039
>Git is serverless
God you're stupid. A company working on a product will need a git server, it's not just one developer with git on his computer. Either they waste time setting up their own, or they use a private GitHub (or whatever git provider you want) repo.

Arguing that you don't see the point to private repositories is the one of the most stupid things I've read on /g/, and this board is known for its retardation.

>Not sure what you're trying to imply here
That software developers usually want to keep their source code closed, and they need private repositories for that.

>>58028083
>God you're stupid. A company working on a product will need a git server
No they don't, git is serverless.

>Either they waste time setting up their own
There's no such thing as a git server, so I'm not exactly sure what you're trying to “set up”. Have you ever actually used git?

>>58028129
This. I'll give you a practical example:
Let's say me and you are working on a project on the same repo.
I can type

git remote add otheranon ssh://<user>@<ip>/path/to/repo

and done! Now I can push my changes directly into your repo and pull yours. A "git server" is nothing more than just a shared repo nobody uses (and created with --bare so it does not have a checked out copy).

>>58027892
ah, okay.

you don't seem to appreciate that github appeared when the alternatives pretty much consisted of sourceforge and going and fucking yourself. it wasn't a great time.

but aside from that, there are good reasons to use the private repo feature. for one, you might simply want to limit access to the repository but not want to insist that existing github users also register for new accounts. for another, you might plan on making the project public at a later date, but not want to do it just yet.

if you think of github as a generic git service, i don't see why the option for private repositories bothers you very much. i hardly use it, but i don't see any reason to object to it.

>>58027269
>giving PUBLIC MONEY to PRIVATE ORGANISATIONS is also highly morally reprehensible

Nah, it's ok

It's just the main reason that governments are corrupt.

>>58028176
>A "git server" is nothing more than just a shared repo nobody uses (and created with --bare so it does not have a checked out copy).
This. You can basically use any machine in existence; as long as you can log in to it (i.e. you have an account), you can use it as a shared git repo

>>58028234
>if you think of github as a generic git service, i don't see why the option for private repositories bothers you very much. i hardly use it, but i don't see any reason to object to it.
Because you don't need a “git service” if all you want to do is use git. Just use git. It's what we do at our company. We have dozens of private git repositories, and I don't see why we would need something like github for any of them.

Git repositories are self-contained, and git is decentralized/serverless.

>>58028234
>you don't seem to appreciate that github appeared when the alternatives pretty much consisted of sourceforge and going and fucking yourself. it wasn't a great time.
But see, SourceForge has the exact same function that I'm saying GitHub has: making your project visible to the community, and allowing for community interaction/feedback.

A private sourceforge repo would make just as little sense to me as a private github repo.

>>58028339
>I can't think of any use cases beyond my little bubble
Yeah you're stupid

>>58021138
Been boycotting them since they came out as a liberal supporter, Kellogg as well.

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>>58023238

>the real reason you shouldn't use github is that it's a proprietary cloud service

you're a fucking meme

>>58028339
>We have dozens of private git repositories,
somewhere in your company are remotes, correct? otherwise where are people pulling from?

the whole point is that your company has the infrastructural needs that justify having your own system for dealing with this stuff. most users don't. github solves this problem for them and also nets them the win of facilitating collaboration if the project is interesting. some are. most are not.

>>58028346
sourceforge was not nearly as good as github was at the time, to say nothing of sf only supporting SVN if i remember correctly. people were getting way into git and it was proving more useful for various reasons.

i honestly don't know how to convince you to agree to the fact that there are people who find value in private repositories. because that's the thing you're pushing back on. i'm not trying to convince you that you need them, or that you should be using them or anything like that. somehow i'm finding myself trying to convince you that there are people in the world who are using private repositories on github who are not wrong for doing so. and at this point i don't know what part of my explanation you don't understand or agree with.

i don't know, man. your company has private repositories. could you imagine a smaller company wanting the same but not wanting to run that shit? that's the simplest path i can think of to connect your experience to a reasonable excuse to use private repositories on github.

>>58023410
Holy shit that comment was cringe.

>>58028502
He's just being contrarian for the sake of being contrarian.

>>58028396
Well suit yourself. If you want to have your own misguided views on how Git works, feel free - but apparently the people agree with me that private repos are not worth giving any amount of money got GitHub for, or they wouldn't be in this financial predicament.

Just out of curiosity can't you run your own git server? like just get some $5 a month host and install it.

>>58028502
>somewhere in your company are remotes, correct? otherwise where are people pulling from?
It depends a bit on the repository and its scope. For example a repository tracking configuration effectively has the server affected by the configuration as the remote; when you push something, a git hook on the other end will make sure that configuration gets applied (e.g. updating HEAD and reloading the affected service).

So in practice, you'd pull or check out the current configuration, make your changes, test them etc., and push them upstream to the relevant server if you're happy.

For something like a pure code repo that has no real associated resource, we just have a VM lying around (‘git.example.com’) to which you can push so you have a common place to store shared code for future generations.

It's not like it requires any setup to push a git repo anywhere you want. All you need is SSH access, which is a given anyway.

>>58028502
>could you imagine a smaller company
I honestly can't. My team consists of 5 people. If we can throw up a VM and install SSHd on it, so can anybody else.

>>58028625
absolutely. you don't even need a server. if you want you could just make commits on your machine and not push anywhere.

>>58028563
i mean i get that tactic and sometimes i do it myself, but only with the intention of trying to flesh out my own view or firm up theirs. like if i'm worried i'm harboring a double standard (e.g. everyone had a meltdown when apple dropped the headphone jack but like 2 or 3 other phones had done that in the last 6 months and nobody seemed that upset, so i had to figure out whether i was just annoyed at apple because it was apple or because there was something else that made the situation different).

but again, that only works if you try to come around. if you just insist on being difficult, then what's the point of all this? to troll?

>>58028681
I don't see why this is a problem, fuck github's main site and just host it yourself, any even semi reputable business already has hosting of some kind. If you were worried about putting it on your resume, just make a separate portfolio site and post it there.

>>58028625
Yeah, it's absolutely trivial. You don't even need to “install” anything. All you need is SSH access, which you'll have out of the box when you rent a VM anyway.

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>>58021138
>waaah I can't post /pol/tard shit on private website

>>58028563
No, I'm not. I'm just trying to argue that people who think GitHub private repos are useful have probably missed the point of git or don't understand how it works; and I'm asking for a counterexample (legitimate use case for a paid private repo)

>>58028667
you're saying you can't imagine a group of people with different skills than you? like throwing up a VM isn't a universally held skill. a group of 5 students might not have the ability to do all that (or the willingness to pay for it), but still want private repositories.

this goes back to >>58028681. i can understand being contrarian, but there's a not-very-fine line between contrarian and stubbornly myopic.

>>58028654
you explained a lot of detail about your company considering the point we're getting at is that there are repositories that multiple people access that are not public. this is fundamentally what private github repositories solve, without someone having to run their own VM, maintain or update anything, pay for hosted service, etc...

i'm not saying that you're wrong for having your own setup — that gives you room to configure things however you like — but at this point if you can't see that people might be willing to forego that configurability for ease then i don't think you're ever going to come to terms with the fact that there are people who use this service, who have reasons, and whose reasons are valid. and it's worrying that someone in a company ostensibly providing a service for others can't wrap his head around this.

>>58028667
But how can you not understand that different companies have different needs? What if nobody wants to bother with the installation? What if you need collaboration with people from other places and you don't want to give them access to your machine?

What if you want to provide the source code for all your customers but without making it completely open source?

Besides, in the end Github/Bitbucket/whatever are services. I can change my own oil but I go to my mechanic to get it changed. I can make ice cream but I go to the parlor when I want to have some. Just because you can do something doesn't mean you want to.

Having it as a private GitHub repo is one less thing to worry about compared to having it running on your own machine.

>>58028727
>a group of 5 students might not have the ability to do all that
But we are literally all students

>>58028711
>You don't even need to “install” anything.
the VM? an updated version of git? keeping things up to date? checking uptime and debugging when things go wrong?

there are costs to running your own services. stop acting naive about that.

>>58028714
This is about not being able to post eggplants.

>>58028757
>an updated version of git?
Maybe I need to repeat this a few more times: Git is serverless. What are you going to update if there's nothing to install?

>>58028742
so you're not a company? are you a completely different person or something?

and are you getting the VPS for free? are you telling me that your group is happy maintaining and updating stuff on that VPS yourself? what if you break something in the server's configuration, or the server goes down? or are you saying you have better reliability than github?

if you're a different person, i'll refer you to the post you just referenced. i don't care if you switch. i just want you to try to come to terms with the fact that some people do different things than you, and that's reasonable.

>>58028757
The baseline is that having a central computer online 24/7 that works with thousands of people is more expensive than a GitHub private repo.

>>58028772
are you kidding? git just released 2.11.0 like 2 weeks ago. this is what i'm talking about. this is one of the many kinds of upkeep that you get to/half to think about if you're running the infrastructure. depending on your needs, it's either a benefit or a cost. do you need me to justify the potential reasons that it could be one or the other?

>>58028729
>>58028776
You make a pretty damn convincing argument, and it's hard for me to find any more reasons to disagree.

I think this example is the one that made the most sense:
>What if you want to provide the source code for all your customers but without making it completely open source?
That pretty much makes sense. Basically it's the community aspect of GitHub but with a limited community.

Not that I agree with it, of course, but at least I can understand why people think this way. (Because they think they will make more money by aggressively hiding their “trade secrets” instead of embracing the customers)

>>58028793
MAybe I need to repeat this a few more times: Git is serverless.
Serverless. S e r v e r l e s s.

The ‘git’ software which you are describing as having received updates is something you only install on your development machines. This is true whether you're using GitHub or not.

>>58028809
>The ‘git’ software which you are describing as having received updates is something you only install on your development machines. This is true whether you're using GitHub or not.
you don't seem to understand that people effectively use git with a central server practically all the time. git's decentralization still offers a win in that you don't need to check things in and out.

if you have a group of workers not on a local network, the setup without a central server (A pulling from B, C pulling from A, etc...) becomes a mess. a server that's accessible from the public internet becomes a de facto feature of most git implementations.

you keep harping on this workflow with no apparent sense of actual practices. am i laboring under a false assumption that you use git in your work?

>>58028776
>so you're not a company? are you a completely different person or something?
It's complicated, and also irrelevant. I guess the only reason I brought it up was because you should be able to safely assume any developers competent enough to be using git are also competent enough to lease a small VPS (for the exact same price if not less) and use that as a shared repository

Plus security updates are basically maintenance-free if there's no software or configuration you have to update. A base system is literally all you need, since git is serverless. Slap unattended-upgrades on the thing and you can safely forget about it.

In my experience. the only time updates require manual maintenance are if you're actually running nontrivial services on the thing, with custom configurations that require migration.

>>58028890
>competent enough to lease a small VPS (for the exact same price if not less)
a github account with private repositories is free for students, so no not really. and it is relevant if you're a company with a business interest vs a couple of students working on a class project. i can't imagine how your circumstances can be much more complicated than "we're 5 students who are working on a startup" or something.

>>58028890
>A base system is literally all you need, since git is serverless.
Your VPS is the server. It has git. You can remote in and type "git --version" and get the version number back.

you should probably update your shit, dude.

>>58025233
Probably way too late for an answer but pasta alla norma is also a good eggplant dish.

gitla.in

As someone working on personal projects, private repos are pretty damn useful.
I don't want to have my website code open to the public but I still want to work on it from several different computers. Say that I'm on my desktop, I could use git there and that's it. But what if I'm working on my laptop away from home, I would have to keep my desktop PC running all the time? Private repo gives me a cheap solution. Free, actually, because I use Bitbucket.

>>58028886
>you keep harping on this workflow with no apparent sense of actual practices. am i laboring under a false assumption that you use git in your work?
I've been a free software developer for about a century, and have been using git for the better part of it. (I have about 400 contributions to FOSS projects in the last year on GitHub, according to my profile state)

I use a decentralized / p2p git workflow all the time. Usually in the form of throwing a patch in the way of the maintainer and having them review it, and then merge it locally (sometimes with changes). My main working repo often has something like 10 remotes, each from different developers.

Heck, the entire philosophy of GutHib is based around the decentralized git model, with the way they implement their fork/PR system and graph (every repository on github belongs to exactly one user).

At best, you could consider GitHub's code model to be an extension of the p2p way in which git was designed, but with an always-reachable cache in front of every developer. I never commit directly to the “main” (parent) repo in any of the projects I've contributed to in the past X years. (Unless, of course, it's my own project and therefore my own repo is the “main” repo)

GitHub is fundamentaly built around the needs of “social” coding, the FOSS community, and git's decentralized model. While private repos may have a use to some people, they don't really mesh well with the rest of GitHub's design, which is fundamentally community-oriented. It feels like sort of an afterthought they slapped on as an idea for how to monetize the thing. It just doesn't surprise me that apparently not enough people are interested in paying for them.

>>58028890
Just because you're competent enough to do something doesn't mean that you want to, or even should. Did you learn anything about software engineering? Do you know what design-to-tools is? Sometimes you want a ready-made solution because it's simpler and leads to one less thing to worry about.

>>58028912
>It has git.
It doesn't need to have git installed at all. You can use it straight over SSH, or even straight over HTTPS. At the very basic, git just needs a filesystem.

Heck, a git remote can literally just be a file path to a local dir or something you've mounted over SSHFS, NFS, or whatever

>>58028957
>for about a century
meant to write decade, fucking hell

I'm not that old

>>58028949
I have private projects too, e.g. for my password database; and another for my website (although I've actually published the source to that on github as well, because I have nothing to hide)

I just push them to the same server that's hosting the website. Heck, pushing is the same as publishing the change.

>>58029012
I believe it's safer to develop on a work repository and push the main branch to the host server. Then again I'm using Heroku and I've never tried branching the master, always simply push to it.

how can i delete a repo from a team that i am not the owner of?
i'm no longer a part of the project and this piece of shit has used my code as his in the past

>>58028995
Whatever you say gramps.

>>58028995
>>58029305
>be in 1800s
>sad because nobody to argue with because no other programmers
>punch out wrong dot in card
>machine explodes and opens time rift to present day
>spend all time learning modern langs to so you can argue which one is the shittiest

>>58027998
>to avoid wasting time on setting up your own git server
because spending a few seconds to fire up a docker container or some similar shit is so difficult

it's not installing gentoo or anything

>>58023404
I think you meant weak minded millennial women

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>>58026887
>svn
>perforce
>good stuff
They're both shit.
Perforce duplicates entire repo when you make a branch. It used to lock files when a user checked one out ages ago. Literarily fucked up design and is paid.
SVN is centralised, doesn't support local and is generally basic as fuck.

>>58029490
What happened to his son? Is that him outside?

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>>58021613
Extremely easy. Check out Git Lab. It's better than github in every single way and had features that git hub is only just adding because they had a fire lit under their ass.

You can just download their pre-configured VM if you wanna try it out. Or use their automated script to install everything.

I use set it up at my work place.

>>58029775
I like Krówki

It's nice to have a self hosted git service, isn't it?

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I fear the day will soon come when I will need this button.

I don't understand why they allowed themselves to get cucked by SJWs. I understand this field is full of numale pussies, but millenial SJW NEETs are not the ones paying your bills.

Adults with money that do real work pay your bills. Why in the fuck would you listen to anyone but them? Honest question.

Can anyone answer that? I'm sure it's publicity, but CLEARLY it's not working out for them.

It's a shame, really, I'd rather pay GitHub than use something like Bitbucket for free, but that will soon change. I don't care about SJW bullshit, but when it gets in the way of a companies ability to function as it has here then it's a problem. Happened to Twitter too.

>>58021138
Why does it feel like every major organization in the computer industry is riddled with SJW ideology nowadays?

>>58030576
The fear is not the SJWs themselves but the shit they will post about you on github and then that is associated with your name/account. A lot of examples of this, the guy hadn't worked on the code for years and it had been sitting there, and an entire storm erupted over use of the word "he". Then the code is removed and you can't actually see how it was pointless and over nothing, and all that's left is how you're sexist etc.

>>58021138
>using github enterprise at work
>can't fulltext search commit messages
this is retarded. have they never heard of lucene?

The very premise of FOSS is SJW. Look at its basic tenets. What do you think happens in communist communities?

You'd best know the comissar!

>>58030605
Yes, let's ruin someone's reputation and life because he didn't use my proper pronouns. Well, call me crazy, but it seems like they don't want social justice at all.

Seems like... They want the opposite... Like... They're a modern day Nazi. It's almost like they're just angry at the world because they're overweight blue-haired landwhales and everyone else must suffer because they want to feel special and important. Hmm...

It's like they know they're wrong so they just make things up to discredit you. Hmm... Well, I'm sure that's not it.

I use BitBucket, because Atlassian would never dare pull retarded shit like that, being actual professionals and all

>>58030687
yeah, it's never been about actual equality or justice. it's just another excuse to get attention, whether negative or positive. they have no end game or goal, all they want to do is say and bitch and whine unquestioningly for the rest of time. and they're getting it

They couldn't care less about github itself, pronouns, they don't have principles, all it is is one big excuse to get a reaction. Girls feed off attention, and this is just another way they can do it.

how much GB all last public projects could take?
i want to download at least some of it

>>58025461
Regard is a verb. It means to slow down.

>>58028916
>pasta alla norma
thanks anon! never heard of it but I like the recipe. gonna give it a try one of these days.

>>58023410

The irony is palpable. Lurk moar

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Guys, never hire women. NEVER! They destroy everything.

Github's downfall started when this cunt claimed harassment:

https://archive.fo/oTo33

>>58030687
I agree with you fully, and wish they would go away. But I've seen how easy it is to rank someone on google, if you already had hosting at several different places, it would be a 10 minute deal to ruin someone. That is why you would take one of the alternatives like hosting it yourself privately.

>>58030857
This too, they are trying to get in with huge corporations as "equality experts" because of shitty quotas, I remember one of the SJWs literally offered "equality services" where she would go to your business and point out how unfair everything was. Businesses are stupid enough to do this because they see it as PR especially since all HR is women. This is how they get income.

>>58030650
or xapian if you want something that isn't apache shit

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>>58029490
this actually happened to a retired marine here. Total badfeels.
His son was one of those faggots in the "white cishet SJs assault hindu trump supporters" incident awhile back.
It turned out the old man had offed himself the year before and I can imagine it went something like that.

I remember when I was studying and they said that I had to upload everything on GitHub in order to get a job jokes on them I work at McDonald's now

>>58031231
HR was a mistake. Needing to incorporate chicks in the work force meant creating needless, pointless positions like human resources, then needing to give them a reason to exist but not really giving them any power.
Because it would just be too sexist to say "we need a sysadmin, let's look at our candidates and pick the best one", and the best one always being a man.

>>58025461
> Retarding this much

>>58024867
Woo

>>58026896
I considered doing that for the same reasons, how do you save your documents so they don't look like shit in a diff?

>>58032398
save as binary?

>>58023377
someone isnt good with women

>>58021138
Thank God. It's an AIDS festering sodomites asshole.

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>>58033490
virgin detected

>>58023299
+1 for gogs. It can be set up in a matter of moments.

>>58030576

you underestimate the amount of numales that exist in the software space. I'd say at LEAST 50% are numales who would support speech policing

>>58032104

HR is not pointless just like having a secretary isnt pointless. It's something you can afford if you have some amount of money as a company and you dont want to constantly call people yourself and bother interviewing them

>using anything but self hosted
I threw up

>>58033997
You missed the point of GitHub

Criticizing people for using github instead of a self-hosted git repository is like criticizing people for drinking at the tavern instead of alone in their basement

>>58034068
>social network of programming
I threw up again.

If you had contributions worth anything it wouldn't matter where they are hosted. If you valued your freedom of speech you wouldn't use a social coding cancer site

>>58026622
>borrow company stocks
>sell stocks immediately
>plant SJW
>buy back when stocks are near 0

>>58034122
Again, you missed the point of github. But whatever, you're obviously on some sort of political “BURN THE SJW WITCHES!” crusade so trying to reason with you is a waste of time.

>>58034202
You're just going to keep me guessing at your imaginary points so you can keep commenting on how wrong I am? Haha, nice argument

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>>58025114
but anon, I DO run my own git on tor and i2p!

i even got a techcrunch article about it for some ghey reason. lost the old private keys tho.

>>58021138
I never understood how they expected to make money nor how they burned through so much so fast.

How the fuck does running a text-mostly web service cost have $20M+ overhead a quarter?

>>58034346
they hired women because they have vaginas and had no business plan
that's enough right there.

>>58034369
> assuming genders from genitalia

check your privilege, shitlord.

>>58034383
>being a trannyfaggot apologist
>wondering why github is burning
yup, that's why.

>>58034407
how can you have stumbled your way into 4chins and not be able to detect sarcasm?

>>58034505
sarcasm is like the female orgasm.
when it happens you know, it's very obvious.

>>58021138
>written by installgen2
not even subtle

>>58021940
We use a bunch of Atlassian products at work, they don't let social issues get in the way of software.

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>>58034346
>How the fuck does running a text-mostly web service cost have $20M+ overhead a quarter?
Do you think all those diversity experts and useless black & brown people come cheap? Think again.

Github has a whole team devoted solely to diversity:

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2016/02/08/report-anti-white-agenda-revealed-at-githubs-diversity-team/

>>58034541
it is to anyone not from /g/. no one else would get the joke.

>>58021664
Github have more

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>>58025468

>>58033560
Humans smell. Woman too. Đ

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>>58034320
>ayyyyymail
>ENDCHAN
You must be a party animal.

>>58035119
nah, I am a total looser.

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>>58021577
>>58023763
>Django cucks encourage and accept patches from
yeah Django is an ableist, an sjw ableist at that, isn't it ironic?

>>58035053
>Đ
what european shithole are you from, bro?

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>>58035119
That picture gave me a PTSD.

>>58026675
>for the most part its all considered open source
False. Unless the code is explicitly licensed as open source, the code is 100% closed source even if it's open for anyone to read.

This is a huge trap for big companies. If you have the resources to back it up, you can sue stupid medium sized companies for huge amounts of money if you have a way of figuring out that they're reusing your code.

Big companies like Google completely ban code that don't have an explicit open source license.

>>58034202
Leftists literally are witches though.

You should read up on pizzagate. Not using the mainstream media, using trusted sources that tell the truth.

>>58032398
write it in latex or some other plain text syntax. when you do diffs, make sure you do

git diff --word-diff

or something. it'll give you a diff by words rather than by lines. works great for natural languages, terribly for programming languages

>>58036868
>Leftists literally are witches though.
lol

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>>58036895
google 'spirit dinner podesta abramovic" for more

>>58036986
hahahah okay

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>>58021138
>we should also take time to make sure they are doing ok.
Github was a mistake. This is what happens when women are allowed to contribute to things.

>>58022653
>>58026813
>>58027392


Getting b8'ed this hard. Apply yourselves.

>>58021138
>not using git.teknik.io

ISHYGDDT

>>58036986
>fake news

>>58036986

fuck, that guys is creepy.

>>58028949
>I don't want to have my website code open to the public
Why though?

>>58021138
Time to use Gitlab!

>>58023321
I like the viens. Nice touch

>>58023466
In that sentence, it is an adjective. Using retard as a verb would be tricky. Maybe something like, this code is so shit it retarded me

>Majority of users have public repos on Github, which is free, nets Github no revenue, and costs bandwidth.
>Those who need private repos typically using Bitbucket because better deals for those with less people committing to the repo.
>Giant corporations who could make use of Github's deals can afford to host shit on their own.

Really, I'm surprised that they haven't been losing money sooner.

>>58026977
>>58027051

>their right to make arbitrary decisions is more important than your right to say/do whatever you want.

So you're against net neutrality? Because if not you should spend some time making your belief system more self-consistent.

>>58027581
>git magically exposes itself to the internet on a static IP without running a service

Chromosomes aren't Pokemon, anon. You don't have to collect them all.

>>58034320
Go to bed, psi

>>58023466

I would actually go about using 'retard' in it's practical application, when referring to slowing something down.

For example, in cars, your engine can have it's timing advanced or retarded.

>>58027051

>communist
>Hillary

Nice b8

>>58025626
>>Why would you want version control? Seriously?

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362KB, 1106x1012px

>there are people who thought using github was a good idea for archiving

Good news is hopefully fossil or bitkeeper can gain some market share.

>>58021577
That's not even ableist

>>58036995
Well, sure. We can rely on people who drink blood recreationally to govern the country with integrity.

I mean, they would have to swear an oath on the bible, and that means something to someone who buys canned human shit and puts it on a pedestal, just so he can laugh at the confusion it causes the commoners.

>>58034723
Do you use hipchat? Am I missing something, or has every release since they moved to Qt been absolute shit? Like the search feature in the desktop client requiring you to log into the fucking website.

>>58040889
why?

>>58023178
my 64GB ram is crying, because gitlab is eating all of it..

this is not chrome, desu

>>58023466
That's still using it as an adjective, retard.

>>58021577
>letting people who can't even program """contribute""" to the project by shitting all over the documentation

but y tho

Can I just write a script to create free accounts and fill them with gigs of reaction images to waste GitHub's storage and bandwidth and drive them closer to the brink?

>>58027051
Private bakeries are allowed to deny service to gay wedding cake buyers then?

SJWs should murder their families and then themselves.

What to use instead?

>>58021521
Enjoy losing your repositories to random bugs Atlassian will never fix :^)

why doesnt someone just make an open sores version of github

>>58041214
At my company we decide which people get our services and which people don't and get kicked out. It's not like this already happened.