COFFEE MACHINE DISCUSSION GENERAL

>>58014419
well, that's a fake picture.

>>58014452
as is the espresso from these kind of machines

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I have the machine in pic related and in OP pic.

>exclusively use the "coffee" function instead of "espresso"
>coffee always tastes kind of bitter no matter what beans I feed it

Just now found out that it's because the water is drained through the grind for too long, drawing out bad-tasting compounds.

Now I hit espresso, and then fill the cup the rest of the way using the hot water function.

The taste is way better, but still kind of watery no matter how little water I add.

>>58014459
Convenience has its merits. How do you make yours?

>>58014537
just with the good old rancilio silvia and a macap grinder

>>58014563
>rancilio silvia
Pretty expensive for a machine that pushes hot water through coffee ground by another machine.

>>58014608
yes, but that's why it does that consistently for decades, and is completely user repairable
running through several of these philips machines in the same time is way more expensive

>>58014459
indeed.

>>58014537
Rocky and Silvia have got my back.

>>58014676
>>58014563
Cleaning/maintenance rituals?

I use a digital scale with my french press

>>58015101
I backflush every evening and flush it with cafiza once a week. grinder burr comes out to be cleaned maybe once every six months, but the macap stays incredibly clean because it has almost no dead space inside

>brother in law gives me jap water boiler
>Tea all day every day
Feels incredible man

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>>58014563
this is mine

>start job as barista, use $2500 espresso machine
>all it actually does is grind and measure for you
>I just bought a $15 milk steamer wand and drip coffee instead of a meme machine that doesn't get cleaned

>Not compiling your coffee from source

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Your opinion on double-walled cups?

I hate cold/lukewarm coffee, and while double-walled cups do a fantastic job at keeping coffee warm, I can't stand the feeling of cold glass against my lip and then scorching hot coffee against my tongue.

>>58016076
Just stop drinking coffee

>>58015925
anything that is automated is absolute dog shit

most important thing about coffee is the grinder, second most is the machine, third most is the freshness of beans

best drip coffee machine for 100 dollars or less?

>>58016111
So basically it's better just make my own fucking coffee, but adding the all-important "machine step" that's makes this a $2500 experience?

I bought one of those double-boil coffee pots that works like a condenser for $20, is it /g/ approved

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French press master race reporting in. It is the least /g/ device though.

>>58016111
>machines can't grind beans like humans do

Tryhard dumb faggot

>>58016125
make pourover

>>58016111
the beans are the most important thing

I have shitty Jura C60 for everyday use and when I am feeling not lazy (happens every so and then) I'll use muh french Press

I won a Nespresso with 48 capsules some 4 months ago and it's pure disgusting trash
I would be mad if I paid for it.

I use a keurig and it's good enough, but I don't mind doing 2 minutes of work to make a better coffee
I got a hard limit of $50 what all do I buy?
I figure grinder and milk steamer won't take out too much cash

>>58016111
For espresso:
grind quality > freshness of beans

For drip:
Freshness >>>> grind quality

For French press:
Freshness = grind quality

Don't fuck with me, I'm an addict

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>>58016323
Can I make a better coffee than a keurig for $50?
I unfortunately got addicted to things that aren't stylish and hip

>>58014459
It's not fake at all it's a pressurized water system.

It's just bad. We have a Saeco super-auto at work and it's impossible to dial it in to make a good shot. It's not awful but it's definitely insipid.

When the thing cost like 2 grand there's no excuse.

>>58015210
>be japan
>no gas hookups anywhere
>make everything electric
>grid regularly browns out as a result
>scheduled rolling blackouts in summers
Japan is weird.

>>58016349
Yes. A pour-over coffee maker and a cheap blade grinder are perfectly fine. You have to sit there pouring for several minutes, but it's no big deal. The fresh beans are going to be way better than a Keurig (and cheaper).

>>58016475
doesn't surprise me that thing uses a ton of power keeping 4 liters of water at 200 degrees
it's fucking amazing though

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How is the Oster Prima Latte Pro?

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The coffee is SO GOOD! I find that Starbucks coffee works best with this machine. Kcups are super convenient too.

>>58016512
Can I get either of these at Walmart and is there an easier way

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>>58016588
>wake up
>close lid, push button
>coffee in bed
Comfy>Quality

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I use a Siroca Crossline, it's an AIO grind n drip, but I only need some fast black coffee in the morning, I like it quite a lot, paid $120 USD for it.

The grinder is a bit loud though.

Currently using beans from a local brand Gourmet and Brazil Santos.

Will probably pick up some Starbucks from Costco to see what the fuss is about.

>>58016076
This is truly the most insignificant problem i've ever heard.

>>58016590
Probably both at Walmart. OXO makes a pour-over. Blade grinders will definitely be there.

Only easier way is to get a basic drip maker that boils/pours for you. No matter what, you have to do your own grind (a maker with built-in grinder is costly).

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>>58016708
Exploding teeth is no joke, don't be so reckless

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AEROPRESS
I have found it the least acidic as I have the stomach of 100 year old woman

>>58016933
>have keurig machine
>clean it out with vinegar as per instructions
>all coffee from it has been acidic for two weeks
>don't care because I have stomach of 23 year old male and am capable of eating an orange

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I used a gold filter cup for years. Love that thing. No paper filters needed, brews pretty quickly, just dump out the grounds and rinse the cup.

A few years ago, my acid-sensitive brother-in-law mentioned that paper filters seemed to reduce the acid content. So, I've switched to that. Basically, it's the same as the gold filter, but it takes a little longer and I have to buy a pack of filters every few months.

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>new apartment has instant boiling-hot water tap
Life is good

>>58016590
If you have 50~200 bucks, Walmart sells grind & brews of various features.

Just add beans, water and flip the switch.

>drinking coffee
>the current year

just drink WATER you fags. if you need caffeine just get some pills.

this is objectively the best drinking option. no acidity. no bitter flavor. costs way less. no need to add unhealthy sweeteners/creamers. why do we still drink coffee again??

>>58016171
a percolator?
Nah senpai, shit- tier I'm afraid but good for /out/

that said this is /g/ so I don't assume you get out much

>>58016194
there are infinitely different tiers of burrs which produce objectively better or worse coffee you stupid low income fuck

grind has to be continually changed with each batch of coffee beans you get

machine cant do that properly, its always the same which results in shit coffee

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>>58016700
>>58016727
>>58017051
>>58017222
>>58017224
>>58017231
Fuck all this I'll just keep paying $3.75 for Dutch bros

>not just buying mcdonalds coffees

>>58017279
>Dutch bros

They're obnoxious. So much fake enthusiasm. I just want a fucking coffee on my way somewhere more important, stop trying to be a meaningful part of my day and just make my goddamn coffee.

>>58017489
My alternative is the local slutcoffee stop and as enjoyable as that is I don't trust them

>>58017051
>I have to buy a pack of filters every few months.

I'm a really frugal poorfag who will complain about prices a lot too, but $2 for 200 paper coffee filters is about as cheap as things can possibly be. Why are you complaining about having to buy paper filters?

>>58017647
>the local slutcoffee stop

Gonna need more information on that one...

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>>58014419
Pictured: my combo

t. Poorfag

>>58017818
If you've lived in Washington or Oregon you've probably at least heard of them, they're basically exactly what they sound like, half naked girls with see through clothes or pasties or whatever make you a shitty coffee and charge $5
They got cracked down on so some of the less hygienic things they did are gone but they'd basically act as slutty as possible for a tip
I look at it as an evolution of overly flirty baristas, they just pinpointed where their tips come from

I have a Jura J9 Impressa. Happy with it.

>>58014419

these things are fucking disgusting plastic chunks

you consumer whores will be the first ones in hell

>>58017988
>They got cracked down on so some of the less hygienic things they did are gone but they'd basically act as slutty as possible for a tip

I heard the local Bikini Coffee place got shut down because they were doing, uh, extra things for tips.

I assume this meant things like flashing their pussies rather than handjobs, since the latter would take too long.

I don't know the state of the laws, but I remember back when they instituted a distance requirement for strip joints that serve alcohol. My friends all went to "juice bars" where you buy non-alcoholic drinks and the dancers grind on you.

>>58016437
'fake' as in 'the brewing is drawn in-- espresso and crema do not look like that'.

>>58018290
I heard someone in class say they got a freshly-fingered finger to stir their drinks, that's the point where I realized I shouldn't be paying that much for a shitty coffee that could give me herpes when I can just buy a normal coffee and watch porn

>using a 1000USD machine to make your mud and sit around talking about how it now tastes slightly different
I rather not

>>58016708
you haven't been on /g/onsumerism long have you?

I have a saeco odea giro plus. I absolutely hate that there is zero check for water in the tank before brewing. There's not even a window on its side so you could see in there how much water is left. You just set the knob to a particular amount, brewing starts, and you may or may not get the chosen amount of water in your coffee.

Any other automatic machines that do not have this flaw?

>>58014419
Coffee makers are like vaping.

I eat generic caffeine pills instead. No work, prompt results, no cleanup, lower cost, total convenience.

>>58014419
Boil water over fire in a ceramic coated tin cup from walmart. Add two spoons of coffee grounds from local grocery store. Stir until grounds settle. Enjoy.

>>58019787
Cept coffee be good for you...

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Finally, a coffee machine general. Does anyone know where i can find high-pressure PTFE tube fittings at a reasonable price? The one pictured is 28$ without shipping which is super retarded.

>>58016700
>and Brazil Santos
>People on other countries actually buy our stuff
i can't get this on my head

>>58019787
I hope you also drink tap water and eat unflavored soylent bars exclusively, because all of the above reasons you already mentioned.

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Why are people buying these high maintenance coffee machines when you could have a better cup of coffee with less effort + money with a french press?

>>58020503
I don't know about the other anons, but I use my coffee machine almost as often to just instantly have a way to dispense hot water for my tea, than making coffee.

It's all about convenience. Sure, you have to maintain the machine, but when you have, it's good for a week to dispense good coffee at the touch of a button.

>>58020541
I just use my electric kettle and put two table spoons of coffee in my french press, pour hot water on it and wait 4 minutes, then put the plunger down and serve. i don't even have to rinse it with soap if i rinse it right after is serve the coffee. plus you don't have to keep buying descaling solution.

>>58020617
But you have to repeat this process every time if you want coffee, while I can just press a button and have my coffee in 20-40 seconds, and pick the time when I do the maintenance work. It's all about time management.

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>>58014419
I use a bonavita Gooseneck kettle and a Lauria pour over coffee dripper.

>>58020657
easy there bateman

>>58020667
Nice, that made me laugh.

>gifted a nespresso machine
>it's loud as fuck

bit of letdown. moka pot is better anyway

>>58016933
what's your method for using this thing? this is what i usually do:

>grind enough coffee to fill two scoops
>flip press upside down so that the plunger is facing me
>put coffee in
>put hot water in
>stir for about 15 seconds
>flip over and press it into a cup
>add more hot water to cup to make a full cup

>>58020788
The inversion method is supposed to be used to let the coffee brew for a few minutes to simulate a French press. Try 3-4 mins next time.

>>58020330
It's occasionally buy one get one free so 900g instead of the usual 450g if that makes you feel better.

>>58016111
assuming you have access to good fresh roasted beans the MOST important factor is the quality of your grinder. you can get away using a standard 16 bar semi auto as long as you have a good quality grinder (as opposed to spending $1000 on a rancillo silva or la pavoni but using shit pre-ground crap)

>>58016191

Yeah, this is the only way to go. Anything else is just jerking off your tech-ego.

>>58016349
Yes. Get an Aeropress from Aliexpress ($25). If you wish to invest a bit more get the metal filter ($5 or less). You won't regret it.

>>58016191
I once had my french press stored on top of my refrigerator

some how it slid off of the perfectly level surface and fell, the beaker didn't even break, but bent the shit out of the aluminum housing

I also have a 3 and a 6 cup moka pot
never could figure out how to get a good cup out of them though

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I just use a french press and an electric kettle.
Any other coffee making device would require me to wash it after every use and a french press just happens to have the least amount of parts, 2.

Keurig has been aggressively marketing their coffee cartridge crap in my area by giving out free samples in EVERY store I've went to this week.
I asked for one and their machine started leaking water as it was making my coffee.
Not a good impression, and I don't even get what's so convenient about it.
You still have to load it up with water and clean it regularly.

>>58023020
I use French press but if you don't see the convenience then you're delusional. You only fill the tank like once a week and have to de-scale like once a month or something. When you want a cup you just pop a pod and you're set, no prep whatsoever.

>>58023020
I've got a French press and a Kalita wave. I like them both, but the Kalita is a bit easier to clean. Keeping the filter screen clean and free of grounds can be slightly annoying sometimes.

>>58023020
Keurig is so popular because they sell you like a couple dozen premixed coffee of all kinds of flavors.

It's basically like the people who buy premixed instant coffee packages, but now in coffee maker form because of all the sites that tell you coffee from actual beans is better for you, which the masses equal to any kind of coffee maker made coffee is better for you.

Keurig capitalizes on that and the lazyness of most people buy selling you premixed cup coffee which are better for you than instant coffee. Just pop in one of those little premixed cups and you're set.

Alot of instant coffee powder doesn't even have actual coffee in it, just caffeine and coffee flavoring.

Does grinding your beans on site really make that big of a difference when using an aero press?

Currently I use pre ground but it's roasted and shipped to me within 2 days but I'm debating if I should grab a grinder and order whole beans instead.

>>58016588
My sister bought this for my dad and he thinks that the coffee isn't hot enough. I don't know what's wrong with his tongue.

>>58023239
Yes. If your beans aren't shit, they'll begin noticeably losing any interesting flavor within an hour of being ground.

>>58023255
You're retarded. The man knows good coffee, that's what. And you can't get good coffee from a plastic hot water heater. It can't get hot enough otherwise the plastics melt, and you don't get good coffee unless it's brewed at optimal (HOT) temperature.

>>58023282
"Muh super hot coffee" is like "muh super dark roasts". Neither person really cares about the flavor and just wants some hot caffeine juice shoved down the back of their throat

>>58023282
I don't know how you're brewing coffee, but I've used a keurig machine and it went basically boiling when it came out.

I'd never go that high with my own coffee, but it was at a party, so whatever.
I couldn't even drink it until 20 minutes later.

>>58023297
>non-coffee drinker confirmed

yep question someone's tastes when it's yours that was in question all along

>>58023282
Well, I don't know much about coffee brewing so I'll assume you're right.

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>>58016191
Reporting with thrifted Bodum. Basically new in box for 10 burgers.
>>58022914
Probably the compressor gradually vibrated it off the edge, desu.

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>Tfw bought this new for $79
>Better and easier than my aeropress

I use a nespresso. works very well

Barista here

i amke a course just to make good coffee and fuck, these machines make it good as I

I feel bad...

>>58016191
KISS is very /g/

ideally.

>>58015215
is it pump or steam driven?

>tfw too poor to buy a single-group Slayer for my house

>>58022859
>>58016349
Or you can pay $5 more and get it from Williams-Sonoma in the USA.

http://www.williams-sonoma.com/products/aeropress-coffee-maker/

>tfw "Made in USA"
I will cut you if you buy the chink version.

>>58016588
>kureig
>good
>actually liking starbucks
This HAS to be bait...

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>>58016708
This "just drink your shit from whatever and be a man" thing is a modern meme.
Throughout history, some of the most bad-ass warriors, generals, and kings have almost invariably had a taste for the finer things.

Pic related is Napoleon's personal service.

Alexander the Great drank from lavishly ornate golden cups.

Richard the Lionhearted got caught trying to sneak through enemy territory because he stood out for demanding the luxury of roast poultry.

The list goes on and on.

>>58020503
Isn't it retarded to do single cups of coffee with a french press?

>>58023161
>>58023020
How long do you wait until you plunge?
Does it make a difference?

French press question:

I know from experience that seeping water through coffee grinds for more than a few seconds makes coffee bitter, but with the French press the grinds just sit there in the water all the time.

I mean, what gives?

>>58024685
I wait 3 minutes, though most people suggest 4.
I also use 1:25 grounds to water ratio, and most people suggest 1:10, so don't mind me.

>>58017051
>A few years ago, my acid-sensitive brother-in-law mentioned that paper filters seemed to reduce the acid content.
Just dump like 1/4 tsp of bicarb soda in der or however much is appropriate.

>>58024645
No, just get one in a proper size, like 0,35 L. What's retarded about that?

>>58024618
>Richard the Lionhearted got caught trying to sneak through enemy territory because he stood out for demanding the luxury of roast poultry.
Did he died?

Just get a Keurig

If you want fancy Y5 milk

>>58024618
>Throughout history, some of the most bad-ass warriors, generals, and kings have almost invariably had a taste for the finer things.
You're neither.

THAT is called a privilege. Your particular need is called being too fucking finicky.

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Who needs cowfee when you could just smoke meth out of a light bulb?

>>58025146
>You're neither.
Talk about missing the point and being stupid.

The point is that "be a man and drink your shit from whatever" is a meme, and anyone who can should enjoy the finer things in life.

>>58025177
YOU are the one missing the point. If you've just defeated hundreds of enemy combatants, no one will dare to question your manhood, especially not in front of your face, if you go ahead and suck on a fucking baby bottle... you do whatever the fuck you want, because you have nothing to prove.

This "cowd den hawt wawa huwts mah mouf" is just faggotry, idiocy, or both.

>>58017874
exactly the same here. do you notice wear on the mill already? at the point where the handle is connected to the shaft?
i hope i'm getting a delonghi dedica 680 for christmas.

>>58025195
Wait, so what do you think is the reason Napoleon, Alexander, Richard, ... enjoyed their fine dining and drinking implements?

>>58025250
eccentric retards wish for eccentric retarded things like power or conquest and pay for it with miserable ends to their life

can you name a successful scientist that ended as terrible as any of those guys?
besides the ones that got burned

>>58025379
>eccentric retards wish for eccentric retarded things
Or: the manliest of men acknowledging the added enjoyment things like good drinking implements provide.

The point is: shit like cup quality matters, and it's not just dainty poofters that care.

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cawffee

>>58023376
what the fuck is that sentence

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>>58025423
soykaf

>>58025406
look I drank starting from cheapest tin to quite expensive thinnest porcelain
it really doesn't matter

>>58025523
For all I know, tin feels the same as porcelain.

Drinking from a glass double-walled cup is weird though.

>>58020104
mom and pop style appliance repair places usually have that kind of shit for dirt cheap.

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>tfw you can't drink coffee anymore

>>58026975
why not nigger

>>58024729
>I know from experience that seeping water through coffee grinds for more than a few seconds makes coffee bitter
You sure you're doing it right? A pour-over is supposed to be poured over a 4-minute timespan because that's when brewing grounds release their maximum goodness.

>>58023217
No man. I am not a fan of Keurig but it still makes coffee way better than any instant coffee. People use it for convenience and passable taste (especially when you can get fancy diverse flavors). Everyone knows instant tastes like ass.

>>58026975
cuck

>>58028312
>You sure you're doing it right?
Well this is my experience using my espresso machine, the one in OP.

I'm guessing the grind is much finer, and the water can't seep as long as through courser grinds.

>>58028469
Espresso has a shorter steep because it's a very fine grind and it's pressurized. Normal coffee should aim for a brew of 3-4 minutes. If you poured all your water on course grounds it would be over too quickly, so you have to pour slowly. Coffee makers trickle it on slowly for you.

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Finn here


Mocca Master, ground up Juhlamokka coffee or GO HOME


Jesus christ some faggot ass "coffee" makers at home with capsules and hot foamy cream, just go cream your boyfriends asshole reeeeee

>>58028918
>reeeeee
This.

I prefer yerba mate over coffee, makes me less jittery and anxious

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Anyone use or own a capsule coffee maker

I swear that fad lasted a month at most

What's a good coffee if you drink black? I just get a small hot coffee at dunkin with nothing in it because it's cheap, but I've been wanting to save even more money by getting a coffee maker. I was looking at the Japanese UCC coffee after trying one and liking it. Also what's a good coffee maker for a beginner?

>>58029301

Jesus christ amerikans

>>58029336
Cmon pajeet.

>>58029301
"What's a good coffee" isn't much of a question. There are endless amounts of good coffee. As long as you get a decent brand of whole beans, use the beans quickly, and grind right before brewing, you will have a solid cup. The roast style and bean locality is your preference.

I have an impressa F7. It's pretty big and nags me to clean it all the time but it works OK. I wish the water tank was sealed better because the plastic is a dust magnet and dust somehow always gets inside and clogs the filter after a few weeks. No wonder they say to comepletely change the water every week.

>>58029537
>>58029301
Oh, and the best brewer for beginners is a basic drip brewer and blade grinder. A pour-over is a little more work but just as easy.

>>58029631

Do they not sell ground up coffee beans in a very sealed bag outside of finland

>>58029666
fresh grind is way superior

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>being on /g/
>not having a botnet-connected coffee maker
plebs, level up

>>58029631
>blade grinder
that's like getting a twitching junkie with a rusty knife to do your wife's sons circumcision, you can get a manual grinder with conical burr for like $50

>>58029666
Of course, but grinding your own is better.

>>58029827
Burr is totally unnecessary for a drip brew. That's like hiring a sushi chef to cut up a Philly cheese steak.

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>>58029795

>>58029885
what if you have one of those SCAA certified drip coffee makers? they test water temperature consistency and all that
>select all images with coffee

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NOT EVEN CLOSE TO MY LEVEL FAGGOTS! GET WITH THE TIMES ALREADY!

>>58029955
pls don't bomb me mr. terrorist

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>>58029885

I have this grinder, it was made around 1890-1960 plz rate fämäläm

>>58029926
Still doesn't really matter. A connoisseur would get really picky about it, but it's not like a French press where each ground is submerged for the same exact amount of time. Water is passing through the grounds. As long as you have your desired average grain size it should work out.

>>58030011
If it works it works my man. The mechanisms in burr grinders are all the same though some have plastic parts that can break. I assume yours has no plastic so it should decent, even with the cracked housing.

>>58030011
nice genelecs, 8050?

Look at you pathetic slaves to your substance addiction. Coffee is for the weaklings of this world; it is for those who cannot face the day without a high that isn't derived from satisfaction with their place in the world.

Sub-human scum.

>>58030194
>Look at these plebs, deriving enjoyment from enjoyable things!

>>58030194
I'd argue with you but I'm too busy bleeding from the eyes and ears as a result of caffeine withdrawals. If only I had know the risks of dependency!

>>58030115

8040. Had them for ten years. High school graduation money well spent. I could buy anything but almost no point.

>>58025442

Has anyone actually tried a vac pot?

I want to get one but apparently the ones you can buy nowadays are shit, people say to look for old ones from like 1960 and earlier before Pyrex gimped their product because of methfags. Yet to come across one at Goodwill.

>>58030300
You actually do experience these as a result of caffeine withdrawals. Figuratively speaking. Months of mild depression and slow thinking.

>>58031446

Months? Less than a week

DRM in your coffee? More likely than you think

https://www.wired.com/2015/05/keurig-k-cup-drm/

>>58033290
>please disable your adblocker

fuck off

>>58023348
How did you get that price? Mine was $180 off Amazon and I've been seeing sales down to 130 good coffee but I got fucked price wise

>>58033359
>not knowing how to properly block adblock disable requests
fuck off

Bodum Bistro burr grinder + Bonavita gooseneck electric controllable kettle + aeropress + locally roasted beans = :::)

Looking into getting a chemex now too

Used to just drink folgers from a mr. coffee but got tired of it tasting like burnt plastic

>>58019935
this nigga

>>58020788
TWO aeropress scoops?! That's a mean coffee:water ratio

>>58024618
>not drinking from the skulls of your enemies

>>58016191
Anyone make these out of metal?

I mean the press assembly itself, the glass beaker is fine but the plastic top thing is broken as fuck.

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>paying thousands of dollars for something that practically just boils water and filters it through grinded coffee.

What`s the deal with coffee? I never see fancy tea maker gadgets that cost more than a used car.

>>58033936
What you talking about? The dome lid? It's metal in the one in the pic. I have a plastic lid one, it's fine.

>>58034182
I have the "chrome" one ant it's entirely plastic except for the shaft and the filter.
The plastic guide for the shaft is broken, which is also what holds the two pieces of the lid together, so I can't spin the top piece to turn the black bottom piece anymore. This makes it so I can't spin the thing around to open and close it anymore.

Just feels cheap and plastic as fuck. I bought the chrome one expecting it to be made out of metal so this shit wouldn't happen.

>>58034004
called consumertard """""""""""""culture""""""""""""""""

>>58034242
Not really following, but sounds like bad luck or bad brand. Any Bodum one should be good even if it has plastic. My plastic lid one has lasted years.

>>58034294
It is a bodum.

>>58034694
Well fug

>>58023297
>not caring what's entering her throat

what a slut