How will he change technology?

He'll make AMD great again

>>58000796
Hey buddy I think you've got the wrong thread. The designated shitting thread is 2 pages down.

>>58000789

SpaceX and Tesla will collapse due to Trump piling responsibilities on him.

>>58000959
I was thinking Trump would end his subsidies, but maybe that's what he used to get him onboard.

Hyperloop on top of the wall, to quickly dispatch border patrol to breech attempts.

>>58000789
Trump loves to humiliate people that are better than him. Look at Romney and just last night Ryan. If you like Musk this should probably be horrifying to you because of how bad a businessman Trump is. It's like he could come out of that meeting with some form of "business aids."

>>58001219
Thats because trump got shit on hard by Obama and ever since hes had a fetish for humiliation.

>>58000789
nobody in his right mind doubt for a moment that trump would surround himself by smart people. he might be a clown, but he's first a successful entrepeneur.

>>58001219
How is he going to do that, though? The Bolt came out before your car did, EEElon. Might want to make some more solar rockets, buddy.

>>58001241
Idk if you've done any sort of research about the man but I think it goes back to his childhood he was a notorious bully growing up that made his father send him away to a sort of disciplinary school.

Also when he was bankrupt and the banks he was invested in decided to bail him out instead of dissolving his assets he made them wait while he brought in a box of his books and signed them each and gave one to everyone in the room.

>>58001365
>Idk if you've done any sort of research
No I havent I'm just talking out of my ass pretty much

>>58001357
I really don't know but this upcoming administration is going to be one of the most bizarre since Nixon.

He already tanked 2 major defense contractors stocks through his twitter account. I think alot of people underestimate the power of the office of the Presidency and that kind of helped him get elected. People's laissez-faire attitude is definitely not helping.

>>58000789
Trump's team looks like one of those rogue governments of misunderstood misfits in a Hideo Kojima game:
Donald "Big Boss" Trump
T-Rex "Big Oil" Tillerson
James "Mad Dog" Mattis
Mike "Like the cock? Get the shock" Pence
Jeff "If you're white, you're all right" Sessions
Ben "Sleepy Doctor" Carson
Nikki "Fuck the UN" Haley
Linda "Female Vince" MacMahon
Elon "Ironman" Musk
Kanye "I'm preparing to run in 2024" West

>>58001219
> how bad a businessman Trump is
people actually believe this

>>58001465
>Trump
Armstrong
>Tillerson
Big Boss during the Zanzibar Land era
>Mattis
Campbell
>Pence
Volgin
>Sessions

>Carson
Naomi Hunter
>Haley
Strangelove
>MacMahon
Mistral
>Musk
Huey
>West
Monsoon

>>58001539
Fuck.
>Sessions
Ocelot

>>58001457
I'm not sure what he's doing there. The F35 doesn't fulfill the role of the sorely needed but expensive to fly F22. It's not like the F22 program can be restarted in a few months and the USAF has been looking to cut fuel and flight costs.

>>58001619
both of the programs are failures no matter how much someone tries to justify it...
f35 its like a windows 10 infested with a gazzilion of malwares

>>58001642
Go to bed, Pierre.

>>58001642
Of course, they are. It's just that the F22 can provide air superiority while the F35 can't. The whole two separate engine development programs is a mess as well. Then there's the LCS.

We don't need planes and we don't need trump or any of these faggot white businessman in government. Fuck the USA

>>58001709
>The F-35 can't provide air superiority
What.

>>58001619
idk either the program has had its problems but has been running smooth as silk of late. It feeds into the Russian narrative very nicely.

He didn't even get the price tag right. It should be a redflag to any american business right? The fucking incoming President just straight out lying on twitter fuck me.

Either it's a big troll which is likely to detract away from the shit he gets himself into on a day to day basis or Flynn or Mattis has a bone to pick with the program.

>>58001709
f22 suffers from the same problem f117 had..its not really stealth on the L band especially if the enemy already has 3d aesa radars...
its good for shit and giggles small counties and such but if they go against russia and china well..its gonna be a duck hunt

>>58001747
f35 is created to replace f16..
and it cant do any of the roles f16 was good at..
it cant carry enough missiles because "hurr durr im a stealth"
it cant carry enough bombs because again its "hurr durr"
it cant carry any of the know sub tactical missiles or even tactical ones because "hurr durr im bored as stealth"
basicly its a fucking lego plane that can only be good for jamming inferior planes that doesnt have aesa radars..and nothing more

>>58001479
He's a brand because in private he's a very charming man that will tell you anything you want to here.

He's ran his businesses into the ground so he has to delegate to such an extreme degree he doesn't really have much say in what they do. Which in turn makes him very spiteful and vindictive because he only has the illusion of control.

>>58001805
This isn't true and has been debunked many times even on /k just in the past 2 days. The threads are probably still up or still able to be viewed in the archive.

>>58001862
actually it is true its pure physics the bay isnt big enough to even be filled up with 1/4 of what the f16 can carry on a typical cas or sead mission..
and you cant really install any pylons because then the plane wont really be stealth...

and despite all of that... the fact that none of the export versions of the plane will get the ram material pretty much elliminates the reason behind its development..

>>58001219
Loled

>>58001946
this is one of the threads that smacks a lot of your arguments down. Just have to sift through the memes like yours.

>>>/k/32296390

I'll try to find the other 2. I think you are moving the goalposts to make the aircraft seem shitty.

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>Elon Musk is every SF numale's biggest idol
>now they have to pretend they always hated him when they've been verbally fellating him for years

god I love 2016

>>58001479
Yes, some people are informed. There is a big difference between being a good businessman and being profitable/successful. I doubt his many many investors and business partners who lost everything would call him a "good businessman".

He is highly skilled at coming out on top at the expense of others who trusted him. People think that when he's the president we'll all be "on his team". But we're just another set of investors/partners, who have a good chance of ending up with the shit end of the stick. Good luck to us.

>>58001946
Here's the other 2 threads has a lot of good information and a healthy amount of shitposters like yourself.

>>>/k/32303842

>>>/k/32300461

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>>58001219

>Romney
>better than Trump

>>58002097
no not really it is shit as shit as a stealth can go..

you know why the f117 could make any short radius turns? because anything above 3gs was literally giving away its signature because of the air pressure along with the natural moist was creating tiny pieces of glass on the ram material.. the plane was hitting the radar like a fucking nigger hitting mia malkova ass

>>58002219
>talking shit on mittens the kitten r-money

kill yourself, senpai

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>>58002219
>anyone
>better than Trump

>>58002219
Romney can form complete sentences when he speaks. That automatically makes him better than Trump.

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>>58002278
>>58002239

>>58002322
nice meme

We're in for a rough four years. Trump knows about as much about technology as my 70-year old grandfather does, which plays a role in his opposition to net neutrality, internet porn (?!), and clean energy. He's expressed extremely stupid Bush-tier opinions on privacy after San Bernadino, and his cabinet will guide him to the worst positions he could possibly take anyway.

>>58000789
>2020 repubs change Constitution so there is no question about validity if Cruz and so Musk can run
>2023 it's Musk as the Republican nominee vs Kayne West as a Democrat

What a timeline to be alive in

>>58002398

>romney runs for president
>trump gives him support
>kisses trumps' ass for his support
>trump runs for president
>romeny shits on him
>trump wins
>romney tries to get a place in his cabinet

Dude got exactly what he deserved.

>>58002483

>kanye as a democrat

Someone hasn't been watching the news.

>>58002522
Doesn't that make Romney principled for speaking out against him.

He knows he's terrible so he doesn't want to see a person like Tillerson wield such power and be the face of America abroad. He throws his hat in the ring to make the best of a bad situation doesn't that make Romney selfless?

>>58002705

Did you miss the first half of the green text? Combine that with the rest of his flip flopping, and you quickly realize the guy has no true principles.

>>58002823
I'm no fan of Romney but he looks like an angel compared to the rest of them.

>Hate him and his face, less than Hillary of course but still
>Pretty sure he's going to blow all our money
>One of his first orders of business was to cancel a $4,000,000,000 order for a new Air Force One because it was a waste of money
Holy shit, what a fucking bro.
I love this guy.

He's gonna cut the fat and it's going to drip back into worthless tech projects like we did in the 90s. Going to be a /g/ wet dream in two years, save this post.

I miss George Bush.

>>58001219
>>58002239
>>58002278
a fucking mormon

what a gai

>>58003785
>cancels new AFO order
>dies in old AFO due to engine failure

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>>58004834
>implying he'll use AFO at all

>>58004834
Can just buy new engines and put em on saves money, do a quick electronics check and we are ready

>>58004899
You're an orange guy.

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>>58005466
for you

>>58000789
It won't do anything unless we end diversity hires, cut back and totally eliminate HR departments, and incentivize companies to actively scout talented students here in the US.
You don't build a successful industry by filling it to the brim with black lesbian "tech evangelists" who do nothing but post on twitter, and outsource all your grunt work to Indians who are in fact literal code monkeys that turn out mediocre work.
Our industries and our entire culture needs to be divested from progressive Marxist ideology. Equality is the false god of faggots.

>>58001365
Trump never went bankrupt. A few of his individual businesses did, of which he owns and operates over 400. After filing for bankruptcy the businesses restructured and became profitable.
Armchair pysch bullshit and reddit memes don't belong on /g/.

>>58005547
There's actual documentaries about his massive debt I don't know how you can say stuff like this with a straight face. He's even quoted in interviews about how he was penniless from reporters and his actual family at the time.

>>58001823
>all of this ass pain
Why are liberals so unbridled in their stupidity while insisting that they are more intelligent?

>>58005849
Sure thing, reddit.
Look up the most lefty biased source you can. Go ahead. Trump has had 4 businesses file bankruptcy, and all of them turned around.

Bankruptcy 1: The Trump Taj Mahal, 1991
Bankruptcy 2: Trump Plaza Hotel, 1992
Bankruptcy 3: Trump Hotels and Casinos Resorts, 2004
Bankruptcy 4: Trump Entertainment Resorts, 2009

None of these are personal bankruptcies, they're chapter 11s filed for these specific individual business entities. Trump himself has never been anywhere close to bankruptcy. He literally owns and operates over 400 businesses, and only 4 of them have filed for bankruptcy, afterwards they became profitable again.

Telling people to do research when you have literally done none is the epitome of leftist hypocrisy.
Its a shame he actually isn't the second coming of Hitler because I'd love to see you thrown in a camp.

>>58005949
why do little trumppers think that a guy who can't outperform an index fund is an "amazing businessman and negotiator".

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>>58000789
he called him in to tell him that there's no more subsidies for his little space cowboys RPG

>>58005994
so the guy bankrupted 4 casinos when every other casino in the industry is having a field day?

Guy makes money-printing machines and yet still somehow bankrupts them. Because he's bad at business.

>>58006049
Thats a cute strawman.

>>58006031
there'd be a lot more billionaires if it was that easy, retard

>>58006244
Fuck off, libshit. This is technology thread, not your shitting board.

>>58006244
When you come from a rich family and inherit money or a business from your parents, there is nothing self made about that. Just riding on the coat tails of others.

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>>58006662
so what's your excuse then

>>58002236
>Tiny pieces of glass
First off, no.
Second off, glass is RF transparent.
Third, F-35 can carry more than the F-16, doesn't have to waste a pylon for a fuel tank like the F-16 does, and can carry things internally, along with externally. You're a dunce, and should go study a running turbofan engine headfirst.

>>58000789
He will enable everyone to listen to a Harry Potter audiobook while driven.

>>58006031
He had a rich dad which is the most important thing to a neo reactionary which all Alt Right are.

>>58006743
>he fell for the alt right meme

>>58006049
Retard alert

>>58006706
the fuck you talking about?

The fact of the reality of the world we live in is, if you're born in a family with money you will maintain your wealth, if you're born in a family with no money you will maintain your status of poverty. There is no social mobility in the USA or most of the world.

Trump was born in a wealthy family, he maintained his status. It is easy to get loans and investors when you have lots of money because it projects the illusion that somehow you know what you're doing, when in reality, Trump failed to pay back his loans and promises to investors, and that is his pattern of business, when your reputation is "you better get paid up front" then you are a shitty business person. But somehow he gets sucker investors to go along with him, probably because if he fails they will end up with some prime location real estate.

>>58006782
cry more faggot

>>58006786
So you have no arguments?

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>>58006819
only one

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>>58000789

Tim Cuck, Nadya pajeet, Ellon muck, Larry Page...

>>58006852
lol, thats your argument? You're going to get the government you deserve amerifat.

Why do you think America's allies are not happy and Americas enemies are loving trump??

I truly feel sorry for my american friends that will suffer the consequences of having an idiot in the drivers seat executive branch of government while the idiot will be doing the type of profiteering and corruption that he accused his opponents of doing, Donald Trump will make Abscam look like childs play.

>>58001465
You've got it all wrong lad.

In the grim darkness of the year 40,000, there is only war.

The true God Emperor of Mankind is Mad Dog. He is getting in position to stage a military coup and the USMC will be the genetic basis for space marines.

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>>58006907
Not him, but you asserting that nobody ever fails and that nobody ever excels is laughable and doesn't deserve a serious response.
Have a spurdo.

>>58006907
I'll be fine

>>58002446
>net neutrality
"net neutrality" is such a fucking meme and any of you dorks that take it seriously are fucking idiots wasting your time.
The idea of ISPs charging for better access to some sites over others is only around because of the regional monopolies they hold mainly thanks to municipalities not allowing different ISPs set up shop. So instead of fighting for "net neutrality" people should be fighting against the monopolies and no competition agreements that ISPs have.
Shit holes like Romania have much better internet service at much lower prices.

>>58006907
>Why do you think America's allies are not happy

Because they're going to have to pay to get NATO protection, have to renegotiate trade deals to reduce the American deficit, lose money from taxing American companies in Europe by reducing Americas corporate tax rate and reducing the rate on repatriation while doing a lot of other things economically.

Basically Europe doesn't get to leech off of America anymore which means they can't afford to be the socialist caliphate.

he won't of course

trump is appointing nothing but exxon and goldman sachs shills and watching /pol/ get btfo has been very nice

>>58006981
>open borders = plentiful cheap labor
>higher minimum wage = only helps established corporations

these retards don't realize they're corporate stooges. they'd rather shill for Netflix than having actual competition

this is a good sign.
there's a diversity of economic expertise and political ideology.
it's important that everyone's on the same page and at least there might be some lively debate to build meaningful consensus.
I dunno if his business council will have much authority compared to his posting of exon mobil ceo but it's a step in the right direction.

>>58006925
I didn't say anything that you claim I did. I simply said there is no social mobility in the US or most of the world, and that is simply a fact.

>>58007040
if you honestly believe that, I hope you're not wasting your money at university in the hope of improving your pathetic life

>>58007040
>Simply a fact
He says, referring to his opinion.

>>58007064
>wasting your money at university
Nah son, I live in a civilized country, we don't have to get into our eyeballs in debt to get an education.

>>58007077
your opinion is definitely worthless then. kys

>>58007088
>only murifat opinions are valid

t. /pol/tard

>>58007064
lmfao why do people without degrees act so insecure about not having a degree

>>58007096
>worships trump enough to make a thread about him on /g/
>thinks he's too "smart" for college
>thinks only americans have valid opinions
>doesn't show a speck of rationality

yeah sounds like a /pol/tard to me

>>58007118
I have a bachelor's with zero debt faggot, what about you? did you mortgage your future for zero social mobility?

>>58007118
not him, but i dont have a degree, and the reality is, that without that piece of paper you won't even get a phone call when you apply for a job.

I know a lot of people with various degrees from RNs to engineers, and most are idiots and could be out performed by kids in high school. I think degrees are only useful in the hands of some people.

>>58007146
nah that's awesome and I'm practically in the same boat (graduating next fall with $1k in subsidized loan debt which I already have the savings to cover)

>>58007159
yeah basically, college is a prerequisite unless you are lucky enough to cheese yourself a job with nepotism
even in most cases where a college degree actually isn't even remotely necessary, it is a prerequisite for even getting an interview for a job

>>58007159
>without that piece of paper you won't even get a phone call when you apply for a job.
Bullshit, I got a web dev job after teaching myself from scratch in 2 months. I was going at it 8 hours a day but still.
I have two family members who work in software development and are project leads and neither of them have degrees,

>>58007031
Only intelligent post in this entire thread.

>>58007215
>muh anecdotal evidence disproves your argument

If what you were saying is true, then why is everyone going to college?? Why do you without a college degree are more likely to be unemployed, have lower life standards, have lower life expectancy, have more health problems, make less money over a life time, have more financial problems.

>>58007215
Even though you have the know how, you will get paid less money than someone doing exactly the same job who happens to have a college degree. And if it comes down to it, your employer having a boat load of people wanting your job and they have college degrees, you just been made redundant because supply and demand.

>>58007310
>then why is everyone going to college??

because the federal government backs and hands out loans to anyone who can sign for them

>>58007331
>because of a reason specific to the US that puts people in debt

People in fucking Syria go to college and there is no US federal back program, I don't know if they get in debt or not, but the point is, the US isn't special in the volume of people going to college.

Oh great, there goes our tax dollars to fund that balding Jew's obsession with escaping the global warming hoax by living on an already dead planet.

All Linux packages required by law to have systemd as a dependency

>>58007373
because it's a fucking scam. people whine and cry about lower tuition, but so long as federally backed student loans exist, there is quite literally zero incentives for that to happen

>>58007405
Did you even read the comments??

>>58006782
He didn't maintain his wealth. He went from a multi-millionare to a billionaire.

>>58006981
I agree with much of your sentiment that the real problem is lack of competition, but the two objectives are not mutually exclusive. Comcast, Time Warner and the like are an important contributor to the current crappy Internet system in the United States and their dominance should be challenged in every area possible, but challenging the existing companies' monopolies is a battle which takes much more effort in the current, heavily lobbied system than ensuring they follow certain common practices. Most companies would still have a financial incentive to throttle non-mainstream sites even in the abscence of monopoly because the idea of a "fast-track" is attractive to non-ISP web companies willing to make enough important agreements with smaller businesses. Taking down the labyrinthine system of lobbying is not at all a simple task, and net neutrality serves as an effective measure in the current environment while working towards larger goals. I pushed efforts in several counties in my home state of Montana to reduce regulatory barriers for new ISPs using the model of how Google Fiber entered Austin and Kansas City (useful example of how it can be done despite how evil Google is). Fighting each local government requires sustained organization that is hard to come across nowadays, though.

>>58007014
I don't support open borders/high minimum wage, though. I'm not sure why you assume support of net neutrality necessarily implies that.

>>58007453
Is english not your native language?

Did he go from rich to poor? No, he maintained his wealth.

>>58002446
Trump and the Repubs are against net neutrality regulation because they think it gives regulatory power to the government. Sure, they can be hypocrites when it comes to regulating business, but the principle is right.

It's not even the real problem at hand anyway.
>>58006981
covers it well. You basically have local monopolies in counties but somehow it goes unnoticed by most people who believe that just because there are a few large national ISPs there's nothing wrong.

>>58007502
You remind me of a story about someone English traveler going to Africa to find out the retards there have no conception of quantity.

I can tell you're not originally from a 1st world country.

>>58007537
Yes, I agree with most of that as I explained in >>58007481. I still think it's important to secure net neutrality regulations as a kind of bare minimum because challenging all the local governments is not easy, but the battle almost certainly does have to be fought at the local level to truly end our crappy ISP system. His statements about privacy are the most concerning to me, as well as the lack of understanding you can't just go about "closing that Internet up" that his comments on freedom of speech entailed. That was nearly Dubya-tier.

>>58007481
Lobbying is good. It prevents idealogues (crazy Bible thumpers and progressives) from completely ruining the country with hardline policies they won't budge on. You just need to do a better job lobbying for your side.

>>58007607
>what is compound interest

If I have an egregious amount of money and bury it in treasury bounds, in twenty years my wealth will increase, it doesn't make me a smart business man.

>I can tell you're not originally from a 1st world country

kek, sure kid

>>58007629
Sorry, I should have been more clear I was referring to corporate lobbying. Citizen's/workers/non-megacorporation lobbies, etc. are of clear use. It's not necessarily immune to the influence of ideologues, though; Soros and Falwell are/were both ideologues and extremely effective lobbyists.

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>>58007662
>4.25% interest rate
>turns millions into billions

>>58007629
That doesn't make it inherently good, it simply means that if you can't afford to lobby then you have no say so in government, and it leads to a large democratic deficit in government, it is a unfair advantage to those with little to no disposable money for lobbying and only creates advantages to those with large economic interests, and they generally don't need extra help to stay in business since they're usually lobbying for subsidies.

>>58007683
>i don't understand compound interest

>>58007718
>I don't how real estate development can be massively more profitable than index funds

>>58007683

You can't be this stupid. Even for a Trump supporter, this is pretty bad

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>>58007040
>I didn't say anything that you claim I did. I simply said there is no social mobility in the US or most of the world, and that is simply a fact.
That's literally what the other guy said

>>58007662
>If I have an egregious amount of money and bury it in treasury bounds, in twenty years my wealth will increase, it doesn't make me a smart business man.
The "money" he inherited was in the form of an existing business. The most obvious way to tell you're an idiot is that you think it was all liquid assets when it would've taken decades to liquidate what he received from his father. Oh, and it would have devalued quickly once he broke the business up.

Not him but, you can fuck off back to >>>/pol/ or Brietbart, retard.

>>58007784
who

>>58007733
as a Trump supporter you would know that "he would be just as rich with index funds" meme is complete retardation

>>58007077
What eyeballs of debt? It cost me 30k to get a CS degree and I was hired against my own will. I was literally badgered by a pajeet into a job that pays a little over 50k right out of college. I just shitpost on my phone for half the day because they can't even find work for me other than some minor bugfixing.

>>58007803
>What eyeballs of debt?
>cost me 30k to get a CS degree
>a job that pays a little over 50k right out of college

fuck, he really believes it

>>58005547
Please go to /pol/, the SJW boogeyman didn't kill the tech industry, the tech industry isn't even dead.

>>58007841
You need to get used to debt management to live in this world man.

>>58007895
fuck no, im not going to get into debt if i can help it. so called "debt management" is an illusion of control over your life. When you're in debt you have no control over your life.

>>58007935
>"debt management" is an illusion of control

Yea, that's why Facebook was making money from day 1. Fucking debt-taking assholes have no control over nuthin.

>>58007975
>that's why Facebook was making money from day 1

Facebook didn't make a profit until 2009.

Also
>comparing personal finances with any business

>>58006782
> somehow he gets sucker investors to go along with him

This is really the secret to his success, though. Hes an extremely persuasive salesman. He managed to get four seperate rounds of investment capital into his never-above-water casinos even while they were failing AND he was pulling millions out of them as "salary" and using them to fund his absurd lifestyle. He does genuinely have the charisma to get people to do what he wants even when they have to be fucking crazy to do it.

The issue isnt whether he's a "winner", its whether anyone else around him can avoid being the loser. We're already seeing that as he positions himself to lift sanctions on Russia from which he can personally profit tremendously but will be detrimental to US interests. We're all his investors now.

>>58001724
Fuck you jewish piece of shit kys

>>58001011
>end his subsidies
I'd be ok with this as long as the subsidies to ULA/LockMart/Boeing etc, the Detroit automakers and the oil companies end as well.

>>58002587
Anyone else starting to like Kanye just because he isn't the typical buthurt HRC liberal shill like most celebs? And I don't even like Trump but my respect for Kanye has grown. If Kanye ran as a Republican I'd consider voting for him.

>>58006044
>no more subsidies
Let me know when the subsidies end for ULA and the other defense corps. SpaceX/BO/Bigelow are a fucking drop in the bucket.

>>58007004
>Basically Europe doesn't get to leech off of America anymore which means they can't afford to be the socialist caliphate.
As a Hungarian immigrant living in the US, this is spot on. Europeans love to shit on the US as being imperialistic while middle class Americans both pay for and serve in the military that provides Europe with a security umbrella. Fuck these freeloaders.

I can't wait for the Nordic/Scandinavian welfare states to collapse due to demographics, immigration, and declining oil prices combined with an aggressive and belligerent Russia in the Baltic/Arctic.

>>58001709
F-35 has gone into full retard mode.
But the original plan was pretty grand:
> F-16 but with stealth!
> Oh wait, the French are building that.
> Oh fuck, how will we even compete with modern Raphales?

And then began the feature matching of the Raphale.

And then the Royal Navy and US Marine Core wanted VTOL planes. So why not fold that into the project as well?

It's just fucking bizarre.

>>58001805
If you're willing to sacrifice stealth because you're bombing hadjis in tents, it can carry missiles and bombs.

If you need stealth, then the F-35 can at least get some weapons on target. The F-16 cannot, since it'll die.

It gets new missiles, which had to happen at some point, which can be good or bad.

>>58009417
You sound retarded. Do you talk like this in public?

>>58009490

You literally have no clue what you're talking about.

> Muh security umbrella.
That's part of the Marshall package. The US gets to control the seas. The Europeans have to dismantle their empires. The Europeans have to open their markets to American goods. (This was at a time when the Americans had an industry that was untouched by war, and Europe laid in fucking ruins.)

> Nordics not serving in the military.
We have the draft here. Fuck off.

The only thing that's changed is that the deal is now no longer 100% in the US' favour and now you faggots want out?

>>58009798
>We have the draft here. Fuck off.
Right, your shit tier conscript military will last 3 days against the Russians. I thought you Euros were supposed to be smart?

>>58000789

wtf i love Elon Musk now

Gonna start buying pepsi max again aswell

UBER can go fuck themselves though

>>58009798
>The US gets to control the seas.
This has nothing to do with the Marshall Plan and is simply the result of the US fielding the world's most powerful blue water navy.

>We have the draft here.
I'm assuming you mean conscription, not an active draft? Either way it doesn't matter, you could have 100% of you population serving in the military and it still wouldn't amount to any meaningful deterrent. Hell, France has one of the largest militaries in the world, much larger than any Nordic country, in both asset size and expenditure, and they couldn't even keep up the Libya bombing campaign for more than a week before needing the help of the US.

>is now no longer 100% in the US
So you're actually asserting that Europe received zero benefit from US military spending since the end of WWII?

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>>58000858
>AMD is the only company that doesn't have thousands of pajeets spamming /g/ with marketing
>call him a pajeet

>>58002446
We are in for 16 rough years. Tea party is going to get remap the districts after the 2020 census and Dems just dumped the upcoming leadership. They don't even understand why they lost.
It's a shame that our technology will be used against us. People will need to adjust without triggering monitoring systems.
The various conflicts with China will mess things up a bit. But with the environmental collapse it won't matter as much when we create more resource jobs in the US.
The next iteration of "radical" Islam won't reallly affect us too much as the US won't need Saudi Arabia very much by that time.
I just want our civilization to last long enough that I don't have to consider eating my cats as emergency rations.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/16/the-next-generation-of-democratic-leaders-is-um-nonexistent/?utm_term=.71fad4c8e449
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/11/30/nancy-pelosi-is-totally-unbeatable-thats-not-a-great-thing-for-democrats/?utm_term=.0db25233e304