Why can't Linux have nice windows borders? Its a space wasted

>>57995054
I thought you can customize this shit in linux pretty easily.

>>57995106
y trip

>>57995106

I just customised my filter

>>57995054
>>57980524 (OP)
˙xnui˥/∩Nפ ɟo suoiʇnqiɹʇsip ʎllɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ suoiʇnqiɹʇsip ”xnui˥“ pǝllɐɔ-os ǝɥʇ ll∀ ˙xnui˥/∩Nפ ɹo 'pǝppɐ xnui˥ ɥʇiʍ ∩Nפ ʎllɐɔisɐq si ɯǝʇsʎs ǝloɥʍ ǝɥʇ :ɯǝʇsʎs ƃuiʇɐɹǝdo ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ɥʇiʍ uoiʇɐuiqɯoɔ ui pǝsn ʎllɐɯɹou si xnui˥ ˙ɯǝʇsʎs ƃuiʇɐɹǝdo ǝʇǝldɯoɔ ɐ ɟo ʇxǝʇuoɔ ǝɥʇ ui uoiʇɔunɟ ʎluo uɐɔ ʇi ;ɟlǝsʇi ʎq ssǝlǝsn ʇnq 'ɯǝʇsʎs ƃuiʇɐɹǝdo uɐ ɟo ʇɹɐd lɐiʇuǝssǝ uɐ si lǝuɹǝʞ ǝɥ┴ ˙unɹ noʎ ʇɐɥʇ sɯɐɹƃoɹd ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ oʇ sǝɔɹnosǝɹ s’ǝuiɥɔɐɯ ǝɥʇ sǝʇɐɔollɐ ʇɐɥʇ ɯǝʇsʎs ǝɥʇ ui ɯɐɹƃoɹd ǝɥʇ :lǝuɹǝʞ ǝɥʇ si xnui˥ ˙ǝsn ʎǝɥʇ ɯǝʇsʎs ǝɥʇ ɟo ʇɹɐd ɐ ʇsnɾ si ʇi ʇnq 'ʇi ƃuisn ǝɹɐ ǝldoǝd ǝsǝɥʇ puɐ 'xnui˥ ɐ si ʎllɐǝɹ ǝɹǝɥ┴

˙ʇɔǝɾoɹd ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ʎq pǝdolǝʌǝp 'ɯǝʇsʎs ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ʎllɐɔisɐq si ʇi ʇɐɥʇ ǝɹɐʍɐ ʇou ǝɹɐ sɹǝsn sʇi ɟo ʎuɐɯ puɐ '”xnui˥“ pǝllɐɔ uǝʇɟo si ʎɐpoʇ pǝsn ʎlǝpiʍ si ɥɔiɥʍ ∩Nפ ɟo uoisɹǝʌ ǝɥʇ 'sʇuǝʌǝ ɟo uɹnʇ ɹɐilnɔǝd ɐ ɥƃnoɹɥ┴ ˙ʇi ƃuizilɐǝɹ ʇnoɥʇiʍ 'ʎɐp ʎɹǝʌǝ ɯǝʇsʎs ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ɟo uoisɹǝʌ pǝiɟipoɯ ɐ unɹ sɹǝsn ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎuɐW

˙XISOԀ ʎq pǝuiɟǝp sɐ SO llnɟ ɐ ƃuisiɹdɯoɔ sʇuǝuodɯoɔ ɯǝʇsʎs lɐʇiʌ puɐ sǝiʇiliʇn llǝɥs 'sqilǝɹoɔ ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ʎq lnɟǝsn ǝpɐɯ ɯǝʇsʎs ∩Nפ ƃuiuoiʇɔunɟ ʎllnɟ ɐ ɟo ʇuǝuodɯoɔ ǝǝɹɟ ɹǝɥʇouɐ ɹǝɥʇɐɹ ʇnq 'ɟlǝsʇi oʇun ɯǝʇsʎs ƃuiʇɐɹǝdo uɐ ʇou si xnui˥ ˙xnui˥ snld ∩Nפ 'ʇi ƃuillɐɔ oʇ uǝʞɐʇ ʎlʇuǝɔǝɹ ǝʌ’I sɐ ɹo 'xnui˥/∩Nפ 'ʇɔɐɟ ui si 'xnui˥ sɐ oʇ ƃuiɹǝɟǝɹ ǝɹ’noʎ ʇɐɥM ˙ʇuǝɯoɯ ɐ ɹoɟ ʇɔǝɾɹǝʇui oʇ ǝʞil ʇsnɾ p’I

>>57995106
Yes, but it still manages to lack this one basic function. At least Chromium lets you use its own window borders instead, if you use Firefox you're shit out of luck.

>>57995115
It is RegularOP#opisfaggot.

I did not use linux for like 3 years but I do not think they removed option to change windows or download different window manager

>>57995126
On KDE it shows that ugly border no matter what..

>>57995054
>winblows 10
The borders on that shit are complete garbage.

>>57995148
No, go to settings and uncheck "Use system titles and borders".

>>57995126
Is that really the case?Well I never liked firefox and yeah Chromium was my favorite. I get that you may want to use some addons exclusive to mozzila [not sure what addons anymore because chromium does have copy of pretty much all script addons]

>>57995156
I disagree. Win10 is very comfy after playing with options for few minutes.

>>57995156
Still better than the horrendous Linux borders (I'm talking about ALL distros/des)

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>>57995168
>>57995182
Nothankyou, it's garbage, too thin with no option to configure it.

>>57995210
>Win7
Kys

>>57995210
>too thin with no option to configure it.

Yes you can. Have you literally ever used it?

>>57995210
Does 4chan load pictures for about 4hours for you too? That ppl upload 3MB pictures instead of converting it to JPG first does not help [i run other webpages including video streams fine]


also there is nothing like 'too thin'
and you can customize it anyway.
I would preffer even thiner windows.

>>57995229
Retard

>>57995230
Yeah, no, it's crap. I use LTSB2015 in a VM. Making the borders thicker via regstry does not remove the invisible padding. A 4px border would mean you have 8px to drag the window which is too much.

>>57995250
Why the fuck do you want thicker borders? The 1 pixel borders in Windows 10 look way better anyway.

>>57995265
It's deceiptive. It's actually 4 or 5 pixels. Also makes it difficult to catch the window border.

>>57995273
>Also makes it difficult to catch the window border.

Maybe if you have fucking Parkinson's? No one else has any trouble with it.

>>57995280
Nice straw man argument.

>>57995289
It is not staw man while it is direct and exact quote of your argument.

>>57995453
Well I gave you one reason why one pixel borders are bad, and another why the one px border in Windows 10 in particular are bad. You gave me no reason but the fallacies "you have parkinsons" and "my os is the best"

>>57995488
Actually I'm not anon that gave you anything .
I just wanted to point out that It was not staw-man as new non-existing argument was not created to self-servingly busted.

>>57995512
'to be'

>>57995250
In linux you don't need borders, I used win + mb1 to move a window around and win + up down left or right, so that I can resize the window.

>>57995542
Maximize is drag to the top minimize is drag to the bottom.

>>57995562
>Maximize is drag to the top minimize is drag to the bottom.

You know that Windows has this as well, right?

>>57995598
Windows doesn't have minimize by dragging to bottom.

>>57995054
>Linux
>looking good

>>57995054
>I'm retard and I don't know how to customize shit so I'll make a thread on /g/ claiming it's OS's fault I'm retarded
Please stick with Windows, we don't want faggots like you

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>>57995123

>>57996258
Welcome on /g/ board.

>>57995054
Linux is a kernel, dipshit. A kernel doesn't have window boarders nor does it render fonts.

>>57997577
>A kernel doesn't have window boarders nor does it render fonts.
Oh Windows one does. It's even used to draw scrollbars, can you imagine?

>>57997599
Windows is not a kernel.

>>57997621
I said "windows one".
Which clearly means i referred to the kernel Windows uses,
Read the post before you pretend to be a smartass.

>>57995106
Why are you using your trip outside of /csg/

>>57995054
I see the problem.
You're using KDE.

>>57995273
That's why you resize using Alt

>>57995054
>having window boarders
but if you need them that much there should be a nice adwaita theme for openbox on github

>>57995054
That's a KDE problem, not a linux problem, friend

>>57995054
font rendering is easily fixed. google it

>>57995054
>font rendering on every Linux distro complete shit?
Its not. Default font rendering on ubuntu and fedora now is just as good if not better than windows.

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i'm the one who makes these threads

switch to gtk DE at least chromium devs make it good

KDE sucks, tried it for 3 hours and intothetrash

>>57998025
and so uhm what wrong with that image?
change the wm theme to whatever else kde had, oxygen was nice
chromium does not use gtk
firefox uses tools from whatever system its on

>>57998069
that will be ""fixed"" with gtk3 furyfox

>>57995054
open a browser and go fullscreen in the ratpoison desktop on linux and compare

>>57995054
I hope you guys are ready for my autism but here it goes:

I loved KDE4 up until one release where they fucked up the Window borders to like op's bottom image. I had my web browser tiles to use 3/4 and my tabbed terminal taking up the remaining quarter and borders made it look nice and then one update they removes side borders for edge of screen leaving that thick horrible shit down the middle and it made me so fucking mad that after like 3 weeks I removed KDE. The fact they still have that mess forced and not configurable puts me at ease for the decision I made to give them fucking kde Nazis the middle finger. I relied on that nice window bordered tiling for years and you stupid German cunts took it away.

>>57998103
mine is Cinnamon, but according to all my googling this is a gnome problem. cinnamon, unity, mate, gnome and firefox doesn't merge tabs/title bar

OP is the kde and neither programs play along w it looks like

>>57997747
>>57997912
>>57997988
>"No, no, no. You're doing it wrong. Use {Linux distro I like}, it will solve all the problems you have"
Pathetic

>>57996258
Why can't any Linux distro function well without 100 hours of customization/tweaking to make it usable?

For Windows to be usable literally the only thing I do is download MPC/VLC

>>57995119
nice blogpost faggot

>>57995054
http://i.imgur.com/KxaBsyK.png

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Why are Apple the only ones who get UI design right (not perfect) far more than anyone else? Its almost 2017 and Windows STILL has a region designated for the fucking scroll bar. Why? Look at those gorgeous almost borderless windows.

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>>57995054
define "nice"

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we /nice/ yet?

>>57999979
Ok, then tell me what linux thing doesn't work out of the box and needs 100 hours of customization, while it works on windows
For Linux to be usable you literally don't have to download anything

Also if you are complaining about window borders in term of os usability you are complete retard. It's preference and it's easy like changing your background in windows (takes ~100 hours if you are retard)

>Windows will never look this sexy

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>Windows font rendering

>>58000508
You're either using Windows XP or you really messed up with the config files on any other windows.

>>58000438
>then tell me what linux thing doesn't work out of the box and needs 100 hours of customization

Every distro has ridiculously bad aesthetics.

>>58000863
yeah but so does windows and osx

>>58000825
My last install of wangblows ten looked like this after I installed it. Just give up

Linux is not a fucking desktop environment you fucking retard

>>58000825
Not the guy, but, I have a Windows XP laptop and it doesn't do that.

>>57999979
>For Windows to be usable literally the only thing I do is download MPC/VLC
Let me just download the WiFi drivers, the GPU drivers, the sound drivers, an antivirus and sit through an hour of updates. Then it just works out of the box. Windows is amazing.

>>58001407
mah nigga

>>57995054
>space wasted on browsers
fucking right. I'm autistic about that shit. I use chrome's space saving border but I wish they could compact the dash, window buttons, app menu, dash all into one bar. I can't think of any way to make that look actually nice and not crowded.

>>58001551
>Wifi drivers
Haven't had to install anything to make wifi work on any of my 4 PC's
>GPU drivers
Integrated graphics work fine out of the box.
>Antivirus
I'm not a retard so I don't need one.

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>>57999979

>>58002160
wut

>>57995054
A Linux desktop isn't just ONE thing. It is just a kernel and a bunch of packages that you can install. It is very fragmented. This is not a bad thing though. Since it is just a bunch of packages you can choose what you want in your desktop, for example instead of KDE you could use GNOME or some other DE or WM. You can change your font settings to your own liking.

Tldr it is what you make it dumbass, nobody makes you use it.