Six hour will we watch this beautiful human being making

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>>57980524
Despite your broken engrish, I am looking forward to this as well. Long Live AMD, Long Live Keller, and Long Live Su.

>>57980524
Based Jim "Pussy Destroyer" Keller

Zen is solid. its a new design in the post finFET era thats gonna match the Corei7 on a smaller node. All they have to do is be cheaper per core and offer HT/unlocked Multis by default with cheaper motherboards and they win.

And zen+ on 7nmFF will potentially surpass intel unless they through their architecture out and have some brand new shit we dont know about.

Intel is played out they have noe more IPC gains to squeeze out of their arch and rely entirely on new nodes and better binning.

AYYMD HOUSEFIRES

>sign up for livestream

WHY

ZERTIFIED SHIT WRECKER

Based Jim 'Shitwrecker' Keller

pls dont disappoint me now senpai

>Jim 'Fucking your shit up in an efficient multithreaded manner' Keller

Anyone know what he's moved onto now? Whose shit will he wreck next?

AMD > INTEL

>>57980628
wtf will intel do if they don't have cpus with locked multipliers

I figure intel will offer more k cpus with cannonlake

>>57980524
link

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>>57980869
https://electrek.co/2016/01/28/tesla-jim-keller-apple-processor-architect-2/

>>57981030
Shit.

>>57980628
>and they win.
not really

fags will buy intel no matter what

>>57980990
http://www.amd.com/en-us/innovations/new-horizon

Starts at 4 PM EST

i get the logo is supposed? to represent fire but if fails /g/ to call it poo on the cpu

>>57981177
>but if fails /g/ to call it poo on the cpu
but if it fails expect /g/

>>57981160
thx

>>57980846
if i had a proper connection i would have streamed it for you over obs or something

>>57981177
>but if fails /g/ to call it poo on the cpu
AMD set the target at 40% IPC gain over Piledriver. So that's all they have to do for it to be a success. Luckily zen hasn't been overhyped to the extent that Fury was. So expectations are where they should lie.

>>57981104
>fags will buy intel no matter what
It's the same thing with Samshit, Novideo, Razer etc.

>>57981326

Consumer gayming x86 market is tiny.

Intel makes it money from corporate deals. Places like AWS buying them 10's of thousands of CPUs for their datacenters for example. Intel has better RMA support and connections/leads in that world now. Going to be tough for AMD.

Is AMD finally Ryse-Zen from its grave?

I'm curious about how Zen will be, so I might as well continue fucking my sleep schedule up, so I can watch their reveal at 5am

I hope it's gonna be good.

The Intel prices are fucking high.

>>57980846
i'll drop a link to the stream once the send it over

Is this where the presentation will stream? Guess you don't have to subscribe or anything
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G8R7frtLDBk

The real question is: will it's IPC finaly catch up with Sandy Bridge? A CPU architecture that is over 5 years old

When can I expect zen to be available? my phenom is feeling a little outdated.

>>57982678
Somewhere within January for the big ones

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I just want them to beat a 3570k. Just moar cores, slightly better IPC, and shit to be able to passthrough will be enough.

The reveal is today?

Thought it was the 15th

>>57982713
This. I'd be happy with intel IPC from two years ago as long as I can get a cheap 8c/16t version that would make my dick diamonds.

>>57982746
It's today.
Steam's here >>57982611

>>57982806
>>57982713
>>57982611

Stream is at 3PM CST/1PM PST. You can catch it via AMD's twitch channel.

Twitch: www twitch tv/amd

Hope it does not disappoint.

>>57980900
Dubs of truth

>>57980524
It's just going to be OK, doesn't set up your expectations that high. Piledriver was a massive POS of shit.

>>57982873

Trips of truth...

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>could buy stock when it was at 1.6 but poor student
I hate it.

>>57982901
what

>>57982977
dubs of confusion

>>57982977

I'm trying, dammit!!!!


FUUUUUUUUUCK!

>>57982713
Same. I want to upgrade my i5 3570k/280 build to something full amd that will last at least 4 years.

30 minutes to go, right?

>>57980524

8350 reporting in.

Still happily chugging along with an active torrenting VM, Kodi playing a video, and about half a million Chrome tabs.

ayy

>>57980524
8120 reporting in.

>>57980524
4100 reporting in. I really hope zen gives me a nice quadcore.

i want at least 12 cores, at least 5ghz, hyper-threading or better and at least 64MB l1 cache otherwise i will not buy amd

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4DEfj2MRLtA

6 mins

5 mins to go famalams

twitch_tv/amd

There will be nothing new that isn't already on the leaked slides.

>>57980524
esports themed reveal worries me a lot

save us jim

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>the zen isn't real

>>57985052
At least it's not organized by MSI

You should've seen the shitshow they put on not long ago

any moment now

8320 reportin
my balls are quaking

Dorito Pope!

Save us Jim

habening

>A fucking white male is the speaker

>dorito pope

kek doripope

>>57985115
how's that shit awful purchase treatin' ya?
:^)

CHOO CHOO!!!!! ALL ABOARD!!! HYPE TRAIN TO ZEN DEPARTS NOW!

Gaymen

>esport

WHERE'S JIM

MAKE AMD GREAT AGAIN

lisa has pretty good English wtf my dudes.

wtf I love Lisa now!

>Who doesn't like gaymen.

>JEW LOVE TO GAME........ RIIIGHT?

>MUH GAYMING

she thicc

>>57985223
>>57985220
>>57985218
>>>/g/ You are welcome to leave this thread

got an athlon x4 880k - runs retardedly hot, and I'm spoopd lads
hopefully this is a new hori-ZEN

...I'll leave

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>>57985238

>Do any of you have RX 480?
>In other words, any poorfags in the audience?

>under 200$

"Met or exceeded our goals"


SET HYPE TO MAXIMUM!!!!

AMD STOCK TO THE MOON!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

who here /TOTHEMOON/
???

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>We love PC gaymen.

>Zen>7700k confirmed
>Zen>7700k confirmed
>Zen>7700k confirmed

>>57985339
Congrats you just figured out where most of the hardware market's interests lie

she just fired shots at 7700K

Intel btfo ?

what the fuck why is she reading tweets and giving the backstory on coming up with the name "ZEN"

just fucking talk about your hardware specs and cost

>>57985010

"First, about the name"

Nobody fucking cares about the name. Quit stalling.

>>57985339

SAUCE, NOW!!!!

>>57985260
Jesus i cant believe that she actuallysaid that and laughed after

I hope you guys are watching this using livestreamer plus mpv

>>57984893
>>57984893
>>57984893
>>57984893

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KELLER
E
L
L
E
R

RYZEN

>Lets put a RY in front of the codename and call it a day

STOP STALLING

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>>57980524
get them jim

We didn't just meet our 40% IPC goal, we beat it...

SO MUCH HYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! INTEL + NVIDIA = KILL!

Hori-ZEN
Ry-ZEN

holy fuck these names

>platfrom

fucking pajeet outsourcing

>>57985010

"8-Core, 16-Thread"

So, are they adopting Intel's bullshit Hyper-Threading nomenclature to give the false impression of additional processors?

What's the deal with this "threads" bullshit. Hyper-Threading are just virtual "threads" that the CPU then parallelizes certain operations of. It's a statistical increase in speed, not a doubling as you'd get with an additional core.

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>>57985480
RIP intel
AMD made AI first : ^)
Rip world

>Intel shitters on suicide watch

K E L L E R M A N

3.4GHz lowest base clock. MAD DELIVERED

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>AMD can't afford chairs for the audience

>>57985521
it's 2 separate threads of execution, retard

it IS faster

>>57985521
>I don't understand SMT: The Post

>>57985521
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Thread_(computing)

>>57985010

"Ryzen will sense that you have premium cooling"

Uh. It's a fucking temperature sensor. They're doing what absolutely everyone does, except they're going to cite performance numbers from absurdly cooled conditions.

>>57985594

I understand threads. I understand multithreading. I understand that Intel has cultivated the misunderstanding that "thread" == "core" for marketing purposes.

I don't understand why AMD is adopting this.

>>57985652
because SMT is actually good? What are you getting at here?

>botnet prefetch

>>57985675

"threads" != "core"

It's bullshit that's been used for years by Intel to create the false impression that their four core CPUs are equivalent to an 8 core CPU. They aren't.

I suspect you don't understand what I wrote when I said:

> Hyper-Threading are just virtual "threads" that the CPU then parallelizes certain operations of. It's a statistical increase in speed, not a doubling as you'd get with an additional core.

>AMD clocks high and quick when cool
>demo AMD probably nitrogen cooled

It was a too close benchmark. I don't believe it.

Done with this obnoxiously slow video. I'm going back to watching The Walking Dead, because this video is the only thing slower than TWD.

I'll read the summary tomorrow.

>>57985595
Nope
Its measuring thermal margin, and a temp sensor isn't involved. Its an evolution of what they've already been doing for years.
Sensing paths around the chip monitor power consumption and leakage characteristics in real time. It uses these figures and calculates how hot every area of the chip is using the modeled thermal properties of silicon and the metal layers in the back end.

Temp sensors are unreliable and far too localized to be useful. Using a temp sensor you could have one die area be 100c while the sensor in another area only reads 90c. The potential disparity is great enough that you could experience system instability while your readings show you within safe margins.

This is all based around the simple fact that transistor leakage varies based on temp, this behavior is easy to model, and incredibly predictable in any circumstance.
It is inherently far more accurate than the temp probe circuits we make.

>>57985742
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simultaneous_multithreading

read the first line

hasn't someone already linked you this page?

VEGA

THICC

CERTIFIED SHIT WRECKER

>Nothing about the price
>Nothing about the release date
What was the fucking point?
I'm buying Intel now after this disappointment.

>>57986362
underrated post

>>57986375
It's releasing Q1 2017.

>>57986491

So march 31st then?

>>57986629
March 31st until delayed to August 31st.

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>>57980524
8C/16T VS 8C/16T

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>>57980524
thank you based keller

>>57986629
That's my birthday!

AMD won? Exciting times.

>>57981030
>yfw tesla cars starts to wreck shit automatically.

>>57980524

Will jimbo post sick IPC gains?

>>57986941
>Intel's CPU runs at stock clock
>AMD's CPU is massively OC'ed with XFR

>>57988005
They won a battle, but lost the war. Large investors are jumping off the AMD train as we speak. There is no way they can sustain the growth they claimed by 2020. Not with a product like this.

If they can beat Intel pricing points, than count me in.

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>>57988559
>3.4GHz
>No Turbo as stated in the stream around 35 minutes (Twitch vod)
>6900k running with turbo out of the box

>>57988679
lmao the fuck you talkin bout

>>57988923
It's a paid shill spreading fud

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>>57980524
BASED KELLER FUCKED ALL MY BITCHES

>>57988923
Look at the after hours trading. There are firms selling AMD stocks in their millions. This doesn't bode well for tomorrow morning.

Look, I was on the AMD gravy train until a few months ago. I was hoping to jump back until I realized that AMD is still not a compelling option in the market that they're trying to re-enter. Tell me, why would you switch to AMD's products if you've already spent millions, if not billions, on products from Intel who have provided the support you asked for and expected to run your business? For marginal and dubious gains in power efficiency (which, by the way, is not standardized or regulated by any organization)? For slightly better per core performance? Is that really worth destroying a long term and profitable relationship with a company that has a proven track record of delivering excellent product support? Is that really worth the expensive and time consuming phase out of Intel hardware for a brand new product that won't have the level of support Intel provided for at least the first few quarters?

>>57989078
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VUtM_qCYAMU

>>57989132
Alright then, reassure me by proving my point wrong. Why would you, a large enterprise customer like Google, waste billions of dollars (and lose out on billions more in lost revenue) in transitioning to a brand new product from a vendor who has not been competitive in the level of service and support that Intel has been providing?

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>>57989078
Begone, jewtel shill.

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>>57989078
You're saying this as if everyone is happy with intels crappy support.

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>>57980524
How does branch prediction work in CPU's?

>>57989078
You've got to be like 15 years old. This is the most laughable thing I've ever seen on this board in the past 9 years.
Market always reacts to news. It means nothing. Money is constantly moving.
After hours trading only has AMD down 0.15.
You're the most ignorant and blatantly retarded FUD spreading shill I have ever seen.

Prove you're actually 18 or older. I double dog dare you.

>>57989160
It's not that Intel has been providing stellar product support, but they've built up a reputation for providing support when it is needed and working with clients to get their products up and running in the timeliest manner possible. Intel has both the capital and the manpower to devote entirely on their enterprise and OEM clients.
Do you honestly think that AMD will be able to manage the same sort of support with barely a 10th of the staffing and budget? And bear in mind that this is a brand new family of products in its first generation.

Also, why would any OEM or enterprise client switch back to AMD at this point in the game? Intel has been providing them with all the things they've needed thus far. AMD has only just reached Intel's hardware capability, so what's stopping Intel from dropping prices or other cost-reduction strategies to keep their customers from leaving? And why would their customers even leave in the first place? Because AMD's CPU is now barely a percent better?

>>57989204
You must be 18 to post here.

>>57986941
Pretty hype. Here's hoping their performance translates to single threaded stuff and it costs at most $600. I'd like to finally ditch the 3570k. Also maybe passthrough in the future.

>>57989225
>do you think AMD will be able to manage to provide support after signing billions of dollars worth of contracts?

fucking lmao just kill yourself retard

>>57989303
Check their job listings. They're not in any hurry to hire staffers for their enterprise clients. There are also no news of companies or corporations signing onto AMD's product and support, just rumors and interests. There is nothing solid or written on contract yet. Normally, Intel has this stuff set in stone months before their new product generation is released. AMD has not done so yet. Telling.

>>57989225
https://jobs.amd.com/
Plenty of openings man, and they haven't even started getting payed for some of their recent deals. They will be fine.

>>57981453
Just realized that this is what the name is supposed to mean

holy fuck am I dumb

>>57989353
Last quarter, AMD has lost a few thousand people on their work force. If they had anything concrete by now, they should be mass hiring in the thousands, yet AMD themselves stated to their investors that they have no plans to exceed their normal employment milestones from last year. That means that they'll still be a 10th of the size of Intel serving a host of new customers for a brand new product that is not fully optimized, and won't be for months (this is a fact, not conjecture).

>>57989410
>amd need thousands of new employees right now because they're going to completely subsume intel's enterprise market overnight, even though they'll get no customers because of intel's """""reputation""""" for """""excellent""""" support, even though intel has not been providing stellar product support

too much retarded shill doublethink to deal with. just kill yourself

>>57989525
You clearly lack reading comprehension, or are being needlessly anal over the choice of words. Hang yourself from the highest tree.

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Christ, that diversity hire really got Chief Chink all riled up

>>57989078
Nice FUD.

>>57989561
sorry bro i should have realized 'excellent' means bad

kek

>>57989150
No need to, your point was stupid.

>>57985652
>I understand that Intel has cultivated the misunderstanding that "thread" == "core" for marketing purposes.
>I don't understand why AMD is adopting this.

My FX-8350 box says "8-Core Processor" right on it.

>>57980524
˙xnui˥/∩Nפ ɟo suoiʇnqiɹʇsip ʎllɐǝɹ ǝɹɐ suoiʇnqiɹʇsip ”xnui˥“ pǝllɐɔ-os ǝɥʇ ll∀ ˙xnui˥/∩Nפ ɹo 'pǝppɐ xnui˥ ɥʇiʍ ∩Nפ ʎllɐɔisɐq si ɯǝʇsʎs ǝloɥʍ ǝɥʇ :ɯǝʇsʎs ƃuiʇɐɹǝdo ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ɥʇiʍ uoiʇɐuiqɯoɔ ui pǝsn ʎllɐɯɹou si xnui˥ ˙ɯǝʇsʎs ƃuiʇɐɹǝdo ǝʇǝldɯoɔ ɐ ɟo ʇxǝʇuoɔ ǝɥʇ ui uoiʇɔunɟ ʎluo uɐɔ ʇi ;ɟlǝsʇi ʎq ssǝlǝsn ʇnq 'ɯǝʇsʎs ƃuiʇɐɹǝdo uɐ ɟo ʇɹɐd lɐiʇuǝssǝ uɐ si lǝuɹǝʞ ǝɥ┴ ˙unɹ noʎ ʇɐɥʇ sɯɐɹƃoɹd ɹǝɥʇo ǝɥʇ oʇ sǝɔɹnosǝɹ s’ǝuiɥɔɐɯ ǝɥʇ sǝʇɐɔollɐ ʇɐɥʇ ɯǝʇsʎs ǝɥʇ ui ɯɐɹƃoɹd ǝɥʇ :lǝuɹǝʞ ǝɥʇ si xnui˥ ˙ǝsn ʎǝɥʇ ɯǝʇsʎs ǝɥʇ ɟo ʇɹɐd ɐ ʇsnɾ si ʇi ʇnq 'ʇi ƃuisn ǝɹɐ ǝldoǝd ǝsǝɥʇ puɐ 'xnui˥ ɐ si ʎllɐǝɹ ǝɹǝɥ┴

˙ʇɔǝɾoɹd ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ʎq pǝdolǝʌǝp 'ɯǝʇsʎs ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ʎllɐɔisɐq si ʇi ʇɐɥʇ ǝɹɐʍɐ ʇou ǝɹɐ sɹǝsn sʇi ɟo ʎuɐɯ puɐ '”xnui˥“ pǝllɐɔ uǝʇɟo si ʎɐpoʇ pǝsn ʎlǝpiʍ si ɥɔiɥʍ ∩Nפ ɟo uoisɹǝʌ ǝɥʇ 'sʇuǝʌǝ ɟo uɹnʇ ɹɐilnɔǝd ɐ ɥƃnoɹɥ┴ ˙ʇi ƃuizilɐǝɹ ʇnoɥʇiʍ 'ʎɐp ʎɹǝʌǝ ɯǝʇsʎs ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ɟo uoisɹǝʌ pǝiɟipoɯ ɐ unɹ sɹǝsn ɹǝʇndɯoɔ ʎuɐW

˙XISOԀ ʎq pǝuiɟǝp sɐ SO llnɟ ɐ ƃuisiɹdɯoɔ sʇuǝuodɯoɔ ɯǝʇsʎs lɐʇiʌ puɐ sǝiʇiliʇn llǝɥs 'sqilǝɹoɔ ∩Nפ ǝɥʇ ʎq lnɟǝsn ǝpɐɯ ɯǝʇsʎs ∩Nפ ƃuiuoiʇɔunɟ ʎllnɟ ɐ ɟo ʇuǝuodɯoɔ ǝǝɹɟ ɹǝɥʇouɐ ɹǝɥʇɐɹ ʇnq 'ɟlǝsʇi oʇun ɯǝʇsʎs ƃuiʇɐɹǝdo uɐ ʇou si xnui˥ ˙xnui˥ snld ∩Nפ 'ʇi ƃuillɐɔ oʇ uǝʞɐʇ ʎlʇuǝɔǝɹ ǝʌ’I sɐ ɹo 'xnui˥/∩Nפ 'ʇɔɐɟ ui si 'xnui˥ sɐ oʇ ƃuiɹǝɟǝɹ ǝɹ’noʎ ʇɐɥM ˙ʇuǝɯoɯ ɐ ɹoɟ ʇɔǝɾɹǝʇui oʇ ǝʞil ʇsnɾ p’I

Goddamn it Renee

cant wait
whats the official hour ?

>>57986375

no you're not. You're going to wait and we all know it, faggot.

>>57991587
Already watching it :^)

You know he left AMD more than a year ago, right ?

>Zen is success -> praise Keller
>Zen is a failure -> blame the CEO instead

>>57990937
It has eight integer cores, retard.

>>57993129
It has 4 cores and 8 threads.

>>57993319
No, it has 8 integer cores and 4 FPU units, integer workloads scale linearly between the 8 integer cores provided they're well parallelized
If it had 8 threads and 4 cores then workloads wouldn't scale linearly

>>57989203
>>>/g/sqt

>>57991860
AMD hired Keller just to design Zen.
I don't think anyone would blame the CEO if it failed.

>>57989203
In Ryzen it literally uses machine learning.

>>57988010
> tfw Autopilot is not "automatic"
> tfw people can't even comprehend what the function does

It's literally a lane-assist+, which requires your attention 100% of the time.

> b-b-but why use it then?!
You don't have to, it's in the fucking car for no extra charge. And you can't get a better electric car that has the same mileage/specs.

So what was this 6 thing?
When will we get any data on this thing?
Besides the usual paper launch, paper benchmark and shit by AMD that is useless?

>>57994465
CES 2017 more info

>>57994470
Oh. Neat.
Though I just want normal reviews by now, these presentations are useless. On paper it sounds very cool, but I want real world stats.

Is it 50% faster in single core than Intel for the same or less price? I AM SOLD.

Not? Fuck off.

>>57980953
Drop prices on locked cpus and put out more k cpus at a competitive price to similarly performing amd processors. If it's not worth putting out locked cpus at the lower price point they'll drop them all together.

It's all economics. If Zen isn't competitive nothing changes. If it is then it's all the same story as always when a competitor enters the market with a competitive product. The supply for a give price increases and the supply and demand curves intersect at a lower price. I don't know if I'll be interested in AMD after Zen hits but I hope it is good. If it's good, it will drive down my costs either way.

>>57993344
Not in processors with out of order execution. If the thread that has the real core has two integer operations in the pipeline that don't have dependency on each other they get the integer units. The thread that gets the bull shit HT virtual cpu gets what's left over. So if a bunch of dependencies pop up or there's a stall from a cache miss or something the HT thread gets executed. The real CPU thread always gets the priority on execution units. The HT thread gets the left overs. Ends up being around a 10-25% boost depending on what's being run.

My little 3k line c++ project compile times as an example:

make          10.664s    +57%
make -j 2     6.794s     0
make -j 4     5.623s     -17.2%
make -j 5     5.589s     -17.7%

That's a 2c4t processor. I haven't looked at the code for the compiler a lot but I don't think there's a significant amount floating point arithmetic going on.

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>>57988888
>turbo
who the fuck thought the word "turbo" was a good idea when referring to processors? where the fuck is the damn turbine?

also, checked them sweet quints

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>>57980524
gonna kek so hard when the highest OC you can get is 3.5ghz

>>57985521
30% faster in well-threaded tasks is pretty good considering the die-area it takes.

>>57994478
if it was 50% faster than an intel then intel would have died like literally now...
its 50 to 55% better on ipc than the excavator which is roughly at the 6900k area as we saw

>>57995059
Are we bringing the "Turbo Button" on 386 cases like days of yore? I can't wait!

>>57983763
>AMD
>last 4 years
lol

>>57995502
>he doesn't know AMD does GPU's too
HD 7950 still relevant and usable

>>57994906
Bulldozer doesn't have SMT senpai, it's CMT