>2016 >courage Just imagine Jobs seeing this stupid shit

>>57979744
that's why he died,
so that he wouldn't have to see this stupid shit

>apple will go bankrupt in your lifetime

>>57980608
>apple will become nokia

He would have sold it to all you deluded cult members without problems.

Jobs made a fuck ton of retarded decisions.

>>57980698
name some

>>57980608
I disagree, no matter what shit apple does, there will always be people who buy it

>>57980727
Try to cure his totally curable cancer with bullshit homeopathy.

But I agree company wise he did gud.

>>57979744
He would've kicked Cook's ass so hard, his 20" dragon dildos would pierce his lungs

>>57980727
He almost killed Apple the first time around with his retarded shit

>will portray Steve as a saint who was ignored, rather than one of the key people who led Apple through failure after failure (Apple ///, LISA, Macintosh) while the revenues poured in from the Apple ][ that Jobs was trying to kill
>The Macintosh market was created in the 3 years after Jobs left, with a lot of effort, by some who Jobs disdains
http://www.cultofmac.com/233044/woz-i-dont-hate-the-jobs-movie-but-steve-wasnt-the-saint-you-think-he-was/

>>57979744
Why is /g/ so fucking slow when we are talking about technological growth.
You assholes should know that this kind of technology will eventually take over the entire keyboard, and Apple will of course be the first to do it with the rest to follow after seeing how popular this technology can be.

why would i want to remember steve jobs?

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>>57980930
Like Alf

>>57979744
>Just imagine Jobs seeing this stupid shit

There are two possibilities.

If it was his idea he would sell it wrapped in some innane bullshit how it transcends and shifts the paradigm of the popular compunting universe, or something equally incomprehensible. It would be a financial success.

If it was someone elses idea he would bash it into the ground, where it arguably belongs, and would jockey for power citing it as the worst thing imaginable for computers and computer industry ona whole, earning personal gain.

The Wii U has shown that using a device with two screens in different angles is a usability nightmare

To add even more to the mess, i never look at the keyboard while typing

>>57980930
no he wouldn't have compromised the haptic sensation of keyboards and would've pushed a invention to recreate said sensations.

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>>57980930
>Apple will of course be the first to do it

>>57979744
agreed that its retarded, but it is selling well.

>>57979744
>Remove vital information from screen
>Put it further from where you're actively looking at nearly all times

Brilliant

>>57980799
There are people who bought Nokia Windows phones.

>>57982487
How well?
As good as IPhone and IPad well?

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>>57979744

>>57982460
nintondo was first

>>57982755
no, but no laptop manufacturer does that well. They've easily outsold competitors. It's a retarded idea, but people like it.

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>>57982919
Why is this allowed?

>>57982919
The laptop sucks, but the keyboard actually feels amazing when you have gotten used to it. Seriously /g/ just wait for them to refresh it next year, and then finally have some decent specs on it.
It was the same when the Retina for the first time came out.

>>57979744
I never used the function keys on a mac for anything but brightness and volume. All the shortcuts I ever use are ctrl/alt/shift chords. I think it's a decent idea to use the space in another way that can have a few minor uses at best and just not be used at worst.

>>57983128
>The capslock is still there
>Still missing the delete button
Lad

>>57983156
It has the "Delete" titled backspace key. If you're talking about a forward delete key, ctrl-d/cmd-d works in almost all programs

>>57983211
>>57983211
Exactly
I have been doing fn backspace for ages
Such a waste of time

>>57980930
What's the point of putting visual elements on something you never look at?

>No escape
>No delete
>Command for chords
Brehs

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here's a idea for apple, instead of making gay looking computers for latte sipping faggots, how about bringing back this masterpiece, you know something that looks all business since every computer maker makes computers that are designed for autists these days

>>57983244
You know the same thing can be traced back to ordinary keyboards, and because some people are just that slow that they look at their keyboard when typing.

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>pro

>>57983276
That was a great computer.

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>>57983307
Are you pro enough?

>>57983276
Because grandpa this is not the old days anymore.

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Bros, are you pros?

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>new notification
>on screen
>on Touchbar
>on iPhone
>on Apple watch

>>57983327
apple needs to stop shoving shit into shit that isn't the box and start putting shit back in the box. they don't need crt monitors, just a mid tower mac and no more aluminum

and make everything in america, the chips, the motherboards, everything so apple can say windows users are unamerican

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>>57983370
>no more aluminum

>>57979744
Yet another reason to purchase the new Apple MacBook Pro with Retina Display.

>2016
>Trendfags still treating the guy who wore turtlenecks as some kind of saint.

is apple still a thing?

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>>57980930
Lad

>>57983597
that's the most american thing ever, i see no problem with this

>>57982791
>wired headphones
>wired Internet
>non-cloud based external storage

Apple isn't marketed to poor fags.

>>57980930
please be a troll

touch screen or variations alone could NEVER replace a physical keyboard.

all touch screen games that try to mimic a controller suck ass, because theres no physical feedback.

imagine typing an essay or playing something like LoL using a touch screen, pure cancer.

>>57984711
So once touch screens have tactile feedback they'll replace conventional buttons?

>>57984711
m8 I don't know what field you are in, but honestly that is fucking bullshit in our modern days.
No matter how much you Thinkpadfags want to keep trusting your dead machine multitouch keyboards with haptic feedback is the freaking future. One of these days the technology have been perfected enough for it to give the same sensation of a traditional keyboard, and once that does happened you will see a drastic chance for laptops in general.

>>57984754
i dont think thats enough desu.

you need that physical frontier you get with physical keys, people depend on it to write fast. even if its just a small feeling of the neighbor keys to the one you're currently pressing is enough for your brain to map the keys in their place and keep a steady pace.

at least for gaming, fast writing, or when you're coding and pressing millions of shortcuts all the time.

>>57984841
>give the same sensation of a traditional keyboard
well if we do reach a time where haptic feedback gives 100% the same (or even better) feeling as a keyboard then sure..

until then tho.. not even close.

>>57980799
Sadly you're right. Hopefully Apple can get their shit together and make a good computer again.

>>57980608
A company that big does not go bankrupt easily. Even a relatively small one like Lladró (very known ceramics figurines in the 80s and 90s) has recently been sold to a investment fund, as it has been effectively dead for years now. Nobody with the Lladró surname owns it anymore, and the company reports loses year after year. They might close an liquidate it, they might take it in a different direction (unlikely), but "going bankrupt" is just something companies past a certain size don't normally go through.

Apple will only disappear if it is consciously closed and liquidated. Otherwise it could be acquired or it could fade into nothingness until someone bigger bought it (remember who made the Voodoo GPUs?), but not going bankrupt.

Also I doubt it will be in your lifetime (unless you live to your nineties). There is a lot of capital and assets to chew through before that has to happen.

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>>57983276
I miss my Performa.

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>>57983276
I have one of these in my basement (missing a side panel, oh well). I might whip it into shape.

I also have a "portable" I used to play Battle Chess on while my parakeet chewed on my ear when I was 4. Its PSU is bust though.

>>57983869
They actually taught us these things in marketing school. They unironically taught students who would be advertisers and marketing people, humans do not know what they want until they are told or they are "shown".

This was treated as psychology class btw. I guess it beats shoehorned feminist sjw crap, but still...

>>57985995
I have 2 of them and just once managed to get one working.
The big difficulty is the battery. It needs to be working and charged; not easy with a 20-year old lead-acid battery.

>>57985881
>>57980799

https://youtu.be/_1rXqD6M614

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>>57980608

>Apple
>$180B cash reserve
>Raping every sector in product profitability
>Going bankrupt during the lifetime of our current sun.

That is wishful thinking on the part of a 15yr old w/ severe acne.

It's fair to critique Apple for not taking legit risks and listening customer needs, but let's not get carried away and lose logic. Apple (and Google) are never going away.

>>57986409

This fucking asshole is more cancer than Pancreatitis could ever be.

>>57986659
>hurr just because a company is doing well means they will never make poor decisions in the future

Tech industry moves fast son. One minute you're on top, the next nobody gives a shit. Apple is constantly at a junction point where a series of bad acquisitions could kill the company. It's more likely than you'd think.

>>57986769
>>57986753
I wonder how Microsoft will save Apple's ass this time around

>>57986409
>phil schiller
>shiller
>marketing

>>57986810

All iPhones are forced to "upgrade" to Windows Phone 10.

>>57986409
Not a surprise
They are showing their age
Also that bitch they hired, that came from Burberry or whatever brand.. She is literally from the fashion world, so she is pushing stupid shit of the highest caliber

>Toddler
>Baby

This sounds awfully like /v/ arguing. Is this where they come to 'discuss' technology?

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>>57986921
Sauce

>>57986659
wasnt IBM a big player in the 80's?
havent heard shit from them lately

>>57987038
They moved away from producing consumer electronics on to larger scale infrastructure shit

>>57987535
I just want IBM to make the team of Lenovo sit down and show them how to create an actual ideal keyboard for their laptops.

>>57980864
Wozniak was the real man at Apple. He was the one who made all the hard work to make them become relevant.

Also, Lord Stallman himself said Jobs was not this great man american media want you to believe he was, isn't that enough?

>>57987038

IBM is still the CORPORATE player in the United States. Trust me, when I say that.

CORPORATE USA will not touch Lenovo Servers.

>>57987633

Mr.Wozniak invented the worlds first viable Home Computer. Lots of dedicated and talented people made Apple Computer brilliant. Not just the technical and design people either.

Apple RODE on what Woz and the Macintosh team did after Woz left and Steve was forced out.

Apple died when Steve Jobs died. Apple are now trying to guess where Steve Jobs was going to take Apple NeXT in terms of Hardware and Software.......

>>57987770
That's not true.
It was Gassée who made the classic Macs popular.
http://lowendmac.com/2005/how-jean-louis-gassee-changed-the-macs-direction/

>>57983869
>>57986072
There is nothing wrong with that stetement.

>>57987825

Steve Jobs assembled the Macintosh team, Woz and him made sure the "1984" Advert got made.

Woz got Apple to bankroll the US '82 and '83 Music Festivals......

Woz made sure Apple got VAN HALEN to Headline the US Festival 1983 and paid them $1 Million to do it.

Van Halen.........highest paid band in History at that point.......paid by Apple Computer.

>>57988093
>advertising, advertising, ....
>nothing about actually making a machine

seems about right

>>57986769
>Apple is constantly at a junction point where a series of bad acquisitions could kill the company.

That's simply not true. They would have to make consistently terrible decisions which alienated or removed the trust of customers for years upon years upon years without moving in to other markets in the mean time, which they'd do in a flash.

>>57988121

Apple donated thousands of Computers to Education. IBM never did that.

"Welcome IBM"

In 1977, Apple invented the "HOME" Computer Market.

In 1981, IBM invented a Monochrome piece of crap......

It had about as much use as a Commodore PET.

Fucksakes........The ZX Spectrum with 48 KB(1982) had more functionality than the IBM PC.

>>57988233

Apples Market Share is small compared to Microsoft in the Computer Market. But with an X86/x64 Processor any OS can be installed on it.......

Microsoft are dead in the gaming Market because of Sony by a factor of 10.

>>57988303
>In 1977, Apple invented the "HOME" Computer Market.
That isn't true, it was the Apple II, TRS-80 and PET together that created the home computer market.
And the C64 became the all-time king of the home computers.

I don't know why you bring IBM machines up.
Or any of this really. Jobs did fucking nothing to create these machines and wanted in Woz's own words just "feel important".

>>57988453

And long did the TRS-80 and Commodore PET last?. Not very long......because they were shit......

The Apple II had a longer run than any 8 and 16 bit Computer.

1977 - 1993, I believe?????

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>>57983276
The Snow White design language is the best Apple design era.

>>57989067

Is that one you own, Anon?

Damn, it is has style and class.

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>>57988351
>Microsoft is dead in gaming market
>This post was typed on macbook pro with retina display

>>57988943
Of course Apple produced them so long, they didn't manage to produce anything decent after it for years.

And I don't know what you're trying to say with that useless stat.
That Jobs is a genius for creating it? We already established he didn't even create it.

>>57989149

No......It was posted on a 2010 Advent Roma 2001 with Elementary OS installed on it.

>>57989165

I use Linux, Windows and Mac. They are all have their plus points and they're failings.

In terms of Applications..........Macintosh is the best, with Linux not too far behind Macintosh.

In terms of System Software, Linux is now the far superior.

Microsoft does many things simply OK.

Whereas in specific areas Linux and Macintosh does unsurpassed brilliance.

>>57989419
What the fuck are talking about now?

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>>57979744
But Jobs did see it. Research on the touch bar started when he was still around.

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It's funny because 9/10 times (or 85% of the time) cringe /g/ autists will blindly bash anything Apple. When asked for reasons or for an argument, they can't provide any and instead resort to /pol/-esque name calling. Replace "cuck" with "pajeet" or "faggot" and it's the same mindless herd mentality.
Go ahead, downvote me. Newfaggots.

>>57989569

Not approved by Mr.Jobs.

>>57989586
Lift with your legs when you move those goalposts.

>>57983320
Dongle Hive

>>57989618
Case in point. Thanks.

what if you use bootcamp or install linux... will this stupid bar work on other OS? because if not, you wont even have an esc

>>57989611

You are an Obama/Hillary Supporter. When Mt.Jobs told them to fuck off when he granted them an audience with them.....they didn't listen or he didn't say it loud enough.

>>57989572
Funniest thing is Samsung, Nvidia and Intel get away with blatant overpricing too due to the same shitty marketing practices mentioned here, but /g/ crusades against the possibility of that even being true.

Judging companies (and products made by them)by business practices, consumer treatment and product quality/performance is something really alien to /g/

Another funny thing AMD's GPUs have been massively outperforming Nvidia in GFLOPS pet Watt aswell as per dollar for the last six or so generations, but have shit driver overhead at release which makes them perform worse than Nvidia at release, while 6 months later the performance is equal and between 1 or 2 years after card release the overhead is nearly gone and Nvidia starts gimping the card slowly, leading to the same AMD card largely outperforming the Nvidia card.
Most people will judge in black and white on this, but it's really simple, if you want to buy a GPU and keep using it for 2 or more years, AMD is a better GPU for your use case, whilst if you want to run the latest and greatest and don't mind buying a new GPU nearly every gen then Nvidia would deliver way better performance for you.

This might be simplified because I left out 3.5GB card, gameworks, false directx 12 support, AMD being horseshit on Linux etc, but the point I'm making is that /g/ is incapable of accepting that 2 competing products are equally good and both have specific scenarios in which one would be way better than the other.

Tired as fuck so excuse the length of my post.

>>57990513
I bought a 1060 because your reasoning, which I read a few times before, was based on a hope. I'd have to pay more (480 costs more than a 1060 here) for a worse card hoping one day it would have aged like wine.

And macOS sucks. I'm not on a crusade against Apple, I just don't like the stuff they make any more than Windows.

>>57990617
Not exactly based on hope, the HD 7000 and the 200 series aged like fine wine, my R9 280 scores higher on benches today than back when I first got it, and also scores higher now than back when I last upgraded something (which was RAM btw, which shouldn't even matter on a GPU bench)

Then again, Linux usage is a good reason to not use AMD GPUs unless you want to game in a VM, in which case an AMD GPU plus CPU actually provides amazing GPU pass-through, though this is an even more specific and niche use case

As for Mac OS, I'd recommend tech illiterates it any day if they are willing to pay the price, since it is really a lot better for casual users than windows, on the other side I think it has major improvements over windows which are all shared by Linux, while the major issues with it are usually not shared with Linux.

Windows 10 is shit though, they took 7 and fucked it up, only improvement is DX12 (the boot times don't count, that shit's using a cheap and nasty hack to look like it boots faster)

>>57979744
>looking at your keyboard
>ever

>having to take your eyes off the screen to check your stats

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>>57980608
Friendly reminder that the US government waits for a crisis to hit some IT company, which is then forced to dodge taxes or do shady shit to survive, after which the US government moves in and offers them to close their eyes and let them dodge taxes if they comply and provide data for their customers. That's why the IT sector is growing so illogically without providing products to match the insane market capitalization, and that is also why all the top companies eventually transform into profiling botnets, as proven by endless leaks over the past decade. Ever wondered why would Microsoft illogically push their retarded telemetry that basically clogs up the system to the extent that it is impossible to disable it unless you block it through hosts? Now you have your answer.

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>>57989761
This is a very special technique I've never seen. One of the greatest barriers to making the sale is your prospect's natural process from preparation, through delivery.
I'm going to outline 14 different ways that I've found you.

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>>57991249
You're talking nonsense. Have faith in the new administration.

>>57979744
Good, then more people will see the light and buy the XPS 13.

>>57984841
That is not today or anytime soon, and apple definitely isn't doing it first, second, or third, because it'll cut into their massive profit margins until someone gets good enough at cheaply making it and then sells their patent.

It's the company that bought voice recognition from darpa. What do you think is going to happen?

>>57980727
Ibm ppc over amd x64 or x86 in g4 <

>>57990513
you got it all wrong

MBP are getting all the shits because older powerbook g4 laptops used to be modular and easy to maintenance (just like thinkpads) and now when they removed something very essential as physical and dongle pro 2016, it should deserve all that ranting

Hell, some here are losing their shit when Lenovo carbon X1 does not have Ethernet on board but instead, you have to the get a dongle for it

If you really think that nvidia gpus are shilled here then you should lurk moar

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>>57990513
install gentoo

>>57984711
>imagine playing LoL
Pure cancer indeed.

>>57987770
>worlds first viable Home Computer.
How was the apple I more viable than the altair 8800?

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>>57979744

>>57996855
Is there a 128 MB version, some of my programs need more memory. Other then that this seems to be the kind of laptop I have been looking for.

>>57980608
no they won't

they could piss away millions for a lifetime and never go broke

>>57980727
symmetric screwholes

>>57994497
>PowerPC
>retarded
top kek

>>57979744
that kepboard looks awful.

i dont get why people buy macs anyway, they nonstop remove features and offer weak, paid for alternatives. you cant even connect an ethernet port to a new macbook? you cant connect headphones to an audiojack? meanwhile my $200 laptop has
.proper ventilation
.a useable keyboard
.7 hour battery
.a trackpad thats equally as good, just without gestures
.proper mouse buttons
.all the standard ports (hdmi, other monitor ports, aux in/out, 3 usb ports)
.the list could go on
sure the perfomance is weaker, but its 1/12th the price of a mba (aud) and actually works without overheating

For the price youre getting nothing valuable bundled with a weak operating system. sure you can install linux or windows though, so its a slightly null point

I feel like Apple is just doing all the stupid shit Steve Jobs rejected while he was alive, and everyone's paying the price for it.

>>57996941
This. /v/ cancer stays on /v/

>>57996855
>what is flexview

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>>57979744

>>57980727
>walking right into it

Jobs did make some insane decisions over the years. The refined Steve who returned to Apple was not the same man who founded it.

That said, I don't think he would have fallen for memebar at any time in his life.

>>57983370
>and no more aluminum
Are you shitting me? That's the best design decision Apple ever made.

>>57984630
>>wired Internet
Enjoy your half speed wireless.
>>non-cloud based external storage
So you have no interesting hobbies like photography or video. Check.

>>57983342
nazi fag

>>57985995
>>57986134
Holy fuck do you guys know what these things go for working on eBay?

>>57980804
desu I'd try anything if out of options

>>58001826
I get 300 mb/s on WiFi. Good enough for me.

Also i store all my original copies of photos on the cloud cause they're safe.

>>57987633
>Wozniak was the real man at Apple.

Kek. Woz was a great engineer, but he had no vision. If left up to him Apple would have sold Apple II's until the 8-bit PC world died and they went the way of Commodore, Tandy, etc.

And that's assuming he would have made an Apple Computer and not just a circuit diagram for a monthly newsletter so other people could build their own Woz computer.

Steve Jobs had many flaws, but he did have vision and an ability to see his vision through to completion.

>Also, Lord Stallman himself said Jobs was not this great man american media want you to believe he was, isn't that enough?

Sounds like sour grapes from a man who is pissed the world doesn't see in freedum and command lines.

>>57988453
>Jobs did fucking nothing to create these machines
Macintosh was shaped by him. NeXT was his vision. He shaped or was directly responsible for most of what came out of Apple between his return and death. iPhone and iPad literally created entirely new markets and they were his babies.

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>>58001923
>I get 300 mb/s on WiFi. Good enough for me.
You have low standards.

>Also i store all my original copies of photos on the cloud cause they're safe.
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