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Arduino?
Raspberry Pi?
Atmel?
any cool projects you guys have personally made with any of these?
are these good for learning basic electrical engineering?
discuss
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I had my rpi2 setup with a cheap usbsoundcard and guitarix for a while. I used a tool called xming and ssh to open the program and configure everything on my windows desktop. It worked surprisingly well. I'd love to try it with the rpi3 in the future.
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>>57971908
thats cool anon, I was thinking about making a simple alarm system with an ir sensor and a speaker as my first project.
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>>57971850

Six axis sex bot.
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>>57971850
>are these good for learning basic electrical engineering
no

electronic engineering, yes
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>>57971850
I just ordered an msp432 to play around with. Pretty excited
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>>57972637

If you like assembly then it's great. Arduino allows you to get into micro controllers the lazy way, which I really like because I'm lazy.
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>>57972674
True. After ANSI C in uni Arduino was such fun. The simplicity was probably the thing I enjoyed most about Arduinos. And if you can't waste cycles you can still program them in C.

pretty good learning/hobby tool, can recommend. But get ESP8266 boards, Wi-Fi gives you so many more options for projects.
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>>57972750

I plan on getting a wifi breakout board. I'm going to make an app to control my LEDs for maximum autism.
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>>57971850
I just got one for black Friday. I'm planning on setting up some sort of distributed computing to get mersenne primes for shits and giggles
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>>57972778

Err, not wifi, I meant bluetooth. I have a fever and I'm tired so forgive tardacity.
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>>57971850
If you don't use an RTOS for a microcontroller then you are actually fucking stupid.
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How would I go about making a 2-cam, day and night mode car surveillance?
New to these microcomputers.
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I've seen some people build RFID reader door locks which seems like a pretty fun project.

Mostly though its to impress my gf so she'll see all the value in me and never leave me.
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>>57972750
>not wasting cycles
>programming in C
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>>57971850
Had a sleep/fitness tracker with an online sdk. Used an arduino and weefee shield to start coffee whenever I wake up, regardless of time.
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>>57971850
Plex server with an external hard drive. Doesn't have the juice to transcode or even add subtitles, but having my own personal Netflix with offline-caching is convenient as fuck.
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>>57974794
>networked coffee makers

Its like you want to be part of a botnet.
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>>57971850
>Arduino?
Mechatronics 101 class kit
>Raspberry Pi?
Cheapass Linux machine
>Atmel?
Mechatronics 101: Arduino wasn't available for some reason
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>>57971850
>Arduino
>Useful

ARDUINO SUCKS ASS with sensors
The analog inputs have serious fucking issues.
First thing I encountered was that most shields will fuck with the analog inputs.
Second thing I encountered is that the cross-talk between analog inputs is significant
Third thing I encountered is that you have to put in a mini-loop when sampling analog to manually clear the charge so you can sometimes maybe but not always get an often still fucking useless reading
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just got an orange pi zero,sucks ass so far because the community is still small and mostly made out of pajeets or chinks,so anything you want to do is undocumented or just doesn't work
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>>57971850

I am making a universal remote with a raspberry pi b+ for my home heaters, because japan doesn't have central heating

Then connecting that to my home server (a pi 3) so i can turn on the heat before i get home
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>>57971850
>Arduino?
>Raspberry Pi?
>Atmel?

These are all meme-tier. Real embedded system designers just use Atmel's tools and programmers.
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>>57975507
So what do you recommend for real embedded system engineers? I'm genuinely interested in this topic.

>>57972802
Use Wifi, much more flexibility in my opinion.
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>>57975625
Use this program: http://www.atmel.com/tools/atmelstudio.aspx.

Use this thing to program it: http://www.atmel.com/tools/AVRDRAGON.aspx

Learn C if you don't already know it and read the datasheet for this chip: http://www.atmel.com/devices/ATMEGA328.aspx

If this is above you're level, try to find an online tutorial or class.
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>>57975658
You can do this. It might make you feel smart. The reality is that people use the Arduino (et al) tools because they're actually much easier and efficient for the majority of use cases. It's just another case of a niche being opened up to the masses and inhabitants of said niche becoming butthurt that they no longer have exclusivity.
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>>57975687
If you actually want to get a job (a high paying one) as an embedded systems designer you NEED to know this stuff.

If you just want to stick with meme-tier projects, then fine, use an Arduino.
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>>57971850
Anyone have a suggestion for a NAS build?
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>>57975658
I've programmed in Atmel Studio for a class in my major before, I know ansi C. I thought there's even more behind it... Anyway, thanks anon, seems I learnt at least some things in my life.

I remember we made some fancontrol with interrupts and I made Snake on an 8Mhz quartzz as a personal project. Also had I2C and I2S.
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>>57975813
That's an excellent start. You are certainly able to understand the datasheet I linked in my previous post. If you really want to understand these microcontrollers, I suggest reading it.
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>>57971850
Dude I'm so triggered right now, you're comparing 3 different things..... Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
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>>57971850
can we have a thread about what computers are in space
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My cousin is autistic. Will he be happy with a Rasberry Pi 3 or should I spring for the more advanced and prestigious Intel Edison?
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>>57975932
Get him the Intel shit, or 5 Orange Pis.
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>>57975658
atmega chips are way too expensive for what they offer
pretty much any ARM chip you pick has better functionality, even the dirt cheap ones
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>>57976016
Link?
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>>57975687
>thinking your library-using skills are somehow relevant in the industry
kek
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>>57976029
link to what? just find the cheapest cortex m0
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>>57976050
>implying I even know how to use a library
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Anybody tried running RetroBSD? I bought a custom Pinguino Micro with a processor with more RAM but haven't gotten around to trying to install it. I just love the thought of running BSD 2.11 on a microcontroller. Going to look into LiteBSD (BSD 4.4 for microcontrollers) but I haven't looked into whether mine's compatible or not.
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>>57976110
Can you teach me how to into BSD?
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I'm considering an arduino uno + assorted resistors, LEDs, sensors, etc just to play around with and do some learning projects for fun.

I have a raspberry pi B (first gen) that was originally going to be used in a mame setup, but it seems underpowered. Are there any microcomputers that would be suitable for a mame cabinet? It's more cost and size that anything, as I wanted to make something portable
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>>57976111
Just install OpenBSD or FreeBSD and do whatever you want to do. Remember to RTFM
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>>57976134
I have in VMs and I always get stuck doing stupid things. PKG has problems for me and so does installing XFCE and having to edit config files for it.
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>>57976197
If you install OpenBSD from remote sets it'll set your path to whatever server you choose, given you were using OpenBSD and the path was your problem. That was mine when I first started. As for Xfce it installed fine for me and you just need to edit config files to get better at it, you're not going to learn by not doing it, keep at it with trial and error and Google
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>>57971850
Real men use FPGAs :^)
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>>57976287
In case you or anyone else actually knows, what sort of FPGA would I need to run a J Core?
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>>57976287
unless you have a specific task at hand that requires an FPGA and you happen to have enough fabric leftover for implementing a soft core processor, using an FPGA for doing the job of a microcontroller is downright retarded

educate yourself, please
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>>57976287
>real men use FPGAs when a microcontroller would do
No they don't
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>>57971850
Picked up a few Arduino pro mini's to act as DCC decoders for some model equipment I'm building. Would like to find something that supports 16bit audio, but it can't be wider than about 3/4" (20MM).

12V output @ 1A would also be nice.
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>>57976328
The website says Numato Mimas v2 dev board will do it. It doesn't seem to have a list of known working hardware. It says that's the cheapest at $50.
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>>57976579
Wow, that's cheaper than I expected. Thanks
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>>57976229
why can't you spoon feed me?
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>>57976772
Because we're both lazy and you want to learn about this more than I want to teach you. Plus why ask a novice user when you can google the same questions and find better answers?
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I love to use PICs for these kinds of projects because of the low level ability of it. The PIC18F4520 is my personal favorite as it comes with a lot of built in functions and is dirt cheap. My only complaint is the built-in PWM register is finicky.
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>>57976130
>I'm considering an arduino uno + assorted resistors, LEDs, sensors, etc just to play around with and do some learning projects for fun.
Same. Not sure if I'll get any use out of it, but I like programming so maybe I'll like hardware programming too.
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>>57977032
I've been browsing aliexpress for a while, will probably order this weekend when I have more time.

I'm basically in the same boat. I just want to program something and adding hardware into the mix seemed fun.
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>>57971850
>Arduino
2
>Raspberry Pi
I want one, but I only need the zero because I really have everything you'd need with one already laying around. Sadly I cannot get it yet, as no store around here, not even on the web, sells it.

>cool projects
Sure, lighting effects for my room by manually connecting over 100 LEDs to it. (I got the Arduino when I was pretty new and these cheapo LED strips weren't a thing yet - maybe chyner got inspired by my projects?). Reacts to music, so it's a literal music visualizer, all self made.

Have tried other shit as well, currently playing with the thought of creating a /mkg/ with my 2nd Arduino as it has a USB controller that can act as an HID input device (that means it can simulate being a mouse or a keyboard).

I already tried something with it, but for some reason I couldn't get it running yet. I haven't further fiddled with it though, just 2 days of hacking.
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>>57972778
>pic
Awesome! Mirin'
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>>57974853
Sure, as long as you're in control of it.

There is a difference between autonomous, diy botnet and coorporate botnet
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>>57972778
>>57972802
How did you make this anon?
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>tfw Arduino is the reason why so many hobbyist components are 5V and you need level converter for everything if you want to use something modern like ESP8266 which has 3.3V like every sensible, modern system
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Are there any good microcomputers with Display port?
I waant one to power one of those small laptop igzo displays they go for arround 100 bucks on ebay + the controller board, but the controller board only seems to come in displayport since the res is so high I guess.
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left to right; 3x nanopi neo, 3x orange pi zero, and one parallella

just kinda messing around right now, haven't even flashed any sd cards for the neos yet.
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>>57978223
Link? I cannot find anything under igzo
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>>57978270
http://www.panelook.com/LQ156D1JX03_SHARP_15.6_LCM_overview_28721.html

For example. There are a few other models.
The controler board can be found on ebay by looking up the moedel number and controller board. I wasn't able to find a controller board for each panel though.
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>>57978314
>3840(RGB)×2160 , UHD
Nice. I could really use that in a 11 - 12 inch form factor. I do not know of any controller able to handle such resolutions, either.
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>>57972750
Programming an ESP8266 in C is a fucking pain.
Void pointers and nested callbacks everywhere.

Of course you can use it as just a serial device for an AVR, or others. Here you might want to look at the ESP14, it comes with an integrated STM8, which is also comfy to program in plain C.
All in a tiny module with the same dimensions of an ESP12.

But that's kind of a waste of the strong 32-bit ARM microcontroller inside the ESP.
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>>57978345
http://www.hardkernel.com/main/products/prdt_info.php

Odroid c2 looks like it can run 4k, But who knows how well. That and I'm still iffy on converting HDMI 2.0 to Display port....
Hell, I don't even know what I would use it for..
Cool little countertop tv or something I guess.
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>>57976328
>>57976345
>>57976360
Not him but even I could tell that was b8

I want reddit to go and stay go
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>>57978393
DIY beamer of course, what else.

OHP 10-100 bucks, you maybe exchange lighting for roughly the same (I use xenon bulbs), then the cost of the panel et voilà: DIY UHD 4k beamer.

Currently rocking only 960x720, but you'd really be surprised at how good that actually looks.
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>>57971850
I really can't wait for this thing:

https://www.grisp.org/

>RTEMS OS
>Erlang VM
>Nothing else
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>>57977911
>buying "hobbyist components"
jesus fucking christ...
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>>57978244
Whats a parallela? And I can recommend both Armbian and their Ubuntu core, using one as an airplay speaker with Ubuntu core atm. I wish the Neo Air was cheaper, I kinda want a flat board.

>>57978368
Thanks for that info, I was just reading into C on ESP8266 today, only used them with Arduino so far.

>>57978430
Picture of your setup? Sounds highly interesting. How do you evenly distribute the light? Lenses?
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>>57978587
>Picture
I'd love to post one, but my phone died and the only cam I currently have is the webcam on my monitor. I could make a photo by connecting it to a long ass USB extension cable, but then I'd also need to tidy up my room, which I cannot get done before this thread 404s.

Yes, the light gets evenly distributed by lenses. The lenses are built in in the OHP, the original light bulb however drew 400 watts of power and became extremely hot. So I got myself a PSU from an old computer and xenon tuning bulbs made for cars and bikes. These have transistorthingys that convert 12V (car batteries have roughly 12V as well) to something like 40000 volts or something. Then I had to saw out the old components to make space for the PSU and the new bulbs and located them below the lens. I use 2 bulbs, which I cool with a silent 12cm standard computer fan. That way I lowered the power consumption to rougly 120 watts for the light alone, which makes a really really big difference.

It's really not hard, it's less about understanding, it's more about craftsmanship and being able to disassemble a TFT screen without breaking it. It's super easy, but an overhead projector is big. It takes up quite a lot of space, but I can live with that, considering I can turn 1 wall of my room into a gigantic screen. Gaming is just magical with it. The low resolution allows highest settings all the time. Xbox controller and offblast!
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I just learned how to program the freescale HCS12 for a computer architecture class. Seems like way more hobbyists use Atmel AVRs, though. Should I continue with the HCS12 or dump it for Atmel?
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>>57979332
AVRs are much more hobbyist friendly.
Cheap, easily available in DIP, decent free tools, cheap/diy programmers.and tons of resources online.
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>>57978430
>beamer
Hi, Deutschland!
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C-can I play too, senpai?

Got it yesterday, along with another chip+hdmi shield. Just been using it for IRC atm, but planning to use it as a convenient way to muck around with SPI/I2C & talk to things via UART
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>>57979728
still waiting for it to drop to 50$ again
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>ESP8266
>Wi-Fi
>Lua
>$4 on eBay
Those things look pretty sweet. Anyone here use them?
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>>57979727
Oops. Indeed. Of course I meant projector.
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>>57979774
Lua is pretty awful but you can also program them in C++ with the Arduino IDE.

You could also save a dollar by buying an ESP12 and adapter plate if you have something to flash it like an USB-Serial adapter or a Pi.
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>>57979754
It dropped to $49 about 2 days after I ordered. If I'd know it was going to take 2 weeks to 'process' before shipping, I would've cancelled the order & made a new one at the lower price :(
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>>57979823
>Lua is pretty awful
Why do you say that?
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>>57979840
It's fine for game scripting or similar but it sucks for embedded.
The Lua API for ESPs is also garbage.
Huge mess of callbacks because everything has to be async like node.js.
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>>57978244
What can you say about the nano pi neo vs the orange pi zero? Which one is better in terms of hardware and software support? Thinking about getting one soon so i can cluster them.
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>>57979893
>Huge mess of callbacks because everything has to be async like node.js.
I don't like Node-style callbacks (there are better options including Lua's own coroutines) but async is a pretty valuable feature if you want to handle socket connections with no threads. Is there a way to write async socket code with Arduino's C++ libraries?
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I use my rpi as a openvpn host.
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>>57979998
Yes through third-party libraries.
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>>57972674
This. I dont know who turbo autists get so pissy about arduino. Lits literally just an atmega breakout board.
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>>57979728
I'm waiting for their GPU drivers to leave Alpha and get decent fbtft support. I got a display running, but cant use pcsx with it. Wanna build a GBA sp kinda thing with it. It's the smallest sbc that runs psx at 60fps afaik.
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>>57979774
Yeah, they are my favorites amongst the Arduino compatibles. Great stuff.
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>>57980152
I didn't even realise it could do any 3D stuff whatsoever until after I'd ordered it :3 They just released a Minecraft PE build, because that's apparently the yardstick every SBC is expected to measure up to.
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>>57976050
>reinventing the wheel

Fuck off and come back when you actually have a job in the industry.
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>>57980261
Not him, and of course you'll use lots of libraries in the industry but:
>Arduino
>industry

If you want to learn something valuable for the industry, use something that's popular there like STM32s.
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Working on a project where the Pi creates a wireless network with the SSID of one nearby. Currently testing with me manually setting the SSID. Looking to get it to forward packets normally to those connected so they dont necessarily know theyre connected to me before the router but I want all images they request to be returned instead with pictures of vladmir putin
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>>57980349
Good luck with SSL and 128-bit WPA
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>>57980433
Ill just use WEP :)
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>>57980476
And what if desired hotspot doesn't?
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>>57980512
To be honest I am just going to be doing it on open networks. In fact I'll probably give up in a few days just like evrything else in life
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You guys know any good cheap as shit screens that'll work with the pi 3 b? Something around the 3.5" to 5" area, I don't plan on using touchscreen so I'm not bothered about that. I keep finding ones that either don't mention the 3 b in their product descriptions or look like they're chink shit with no reviews.
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I was thinking of asking my parents for one + a large external. I have two projects in mind, and maybe a kind anon could shed some light since I'm new to these.

1)Secure Server for password manager files
I really want to start using a password manager, but I find keeping it synced across all my devices might be a hassle. I don't know anything about making sure my server is secure though.

2)File server in general
After security is addressed, I'd like something I can set to backup my documents and pictures on a regular basis. Is there a cross platform software that will handle this easily? Something that will backup the folder structures in question (and then could be accessed anywhere in the world)

3)seedbox,but I already know how to do this.

Would love some feedback since I've been itching for one for a while
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For work I had to configure a feh picture slideshow fed by a smb folder on raspberry pis connected to tv screens.

It was my first time configuring microcontrollers and I'm pretty proud of myself that I did it without having to start all over.

But be honest with me, was this the lowest level tier or is there something easier than this?
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>>57982005
the rpi's aren't microcontrollers

i take it you ran something like raspbian on it? it's functionally no different to using any other desktop computer, it doesn't really get any easier than that
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>>57979466
Thanks, anon. I actually just remembered I already have an AVR programmer from adafruit for some AVR based synths I have.
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>>57971850
Go for orangepi if you plan on taking an RPi.
More specs for less money and the orangepi pc2 has 1000mbit nic
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>>57982132
yeah it has jessie running on it :( ok I'm a pleb then... fuck

so what is the hardest thing you can do with those things?
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>>57982375
port TempleOS on it
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>>57982233
orange pi has no wifi iirc so that can be a deal breaker
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>>57982388
Some models have onboard wifi some don't.
Just like the Raspberry Pis.
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What can I do with it?

aliexpress.com/item/ALTERA-FPGA-CycloneII-EP2C5T144-Minimum-System-Development-Board-Learning-Board-FZ0697/1807402541.html
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>>57980261
>thinks that actually understanding the workings inside a microcontroller is reinventing something
oh boy!

>come back when you actually have a job in the industry
I work for a fairly large company that makes automotive electronics
try harder, script kiddie
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>>57979774
You can get them for $2.60 on aliexpress, search D1 Mini.
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>>57971850
>OrangePi PC
Using it as a steaming/seedbox/downloadbox server to access from univ. Works very well

>atmega32a
Planning on making a wireless multimeter/oscilloscope using this and 434MHz RF links+UART or ESP8266 if it supports that high of bandwidth

>atmega8a
Planning on making a device to open the dorm room from the inside when a packet is sent. Might use the same RF links or ESP8266, but first I need to wait for my stepper motor to get delivered and learn to use it. Also the webui
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I have a raspi B+

Also got an Orange Pi PC2 with the new H5 chip yesterday in the mail
1gb ram
1 GB Ethernet

Gonna be my new nas + torrent box instead of the raspi
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>>57982233
Don't the orange pis have less documentation and unofficial support though?

They are definitely more attractive for servers
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Want a small screen for the Pi 3 so I can see what I'm doing without needing to connect up to an external display.
https://www.amazon.co.uk/gp/product/B013JECYF2
Thoughts? I'm wary because a lot of these cheapass screens turn out to have reviews mentioning that they'll only run if you use a specific image provided by the manufacturer (that can't be updated).
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>>57971850
I'm flashing a ps3 with a teensy ++ 2.0
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>>57972586
>drumpf
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>>57975625

I was considering Wifi, but I want people to be able to be connected to their home wifi and the device. Can they do both?

>>57977426
>>57977855

Thanks. The hardest part is cutting the table and the two way mirror. I just use WS2812 addressable LEDs and control with an Arduino/Atmel328p.
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>>57980133

Yep. I think some people are just "if you're not having fun my way it's not fun" hipsters/autists.

>>57984993

Collect your shekels while that CTR check still clearing.
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>>57985306
Got any instructions?
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>>57971850
I made a living room dashboard for my roommates to see how long their commutes would be by train vs by bus, and which was coming soonest with an rpi2. I'm gonna make a fake window when I move to counteract SAD. I got a minor in physics but no real knowledge academically of anything computing aside from graphing and it was really easy to self-teach most of the stuff.

Arduino might be good for very basic EE, especially if you try to figure out how to make things with analog circuits after the fact.
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>>57985665

No, unfortunately I don't. I should have documented when I was building it but I wasn't even thinking about it. It's really not that difficult if you have a jig saw to cut the plastic two way mirror and a router to cut the table.

Another tricky part is seeing where the mirror should be placed height wise as compared to the lights for the best reflection. Something else to consider is that the darker the tint on the 2 way the "deeper" the infinity effect. To be honest I wish I had got darker tint because it would hide the components inside better as well.
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Raspberry Pi running web/mail server (Model B 512MB)
Currently using an arduino as a timer to water my weed plants. Maybe I'll add some sensors and hook up some more relays to control temps and air circulation too.

I hate that sparse Arduino IDE and dumbed down language tho. The only things useful about arduino are the bootloader and no manual HW initialization required.
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>>57977911
Arduino does not drive the electronic components industry. 5V is a standard that will last a long time for various reasons.
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Just set up a Ci20 as a bitcoin miner, only have two USB miners connected right now but at least I finally gave it a purpose. Before that I was just using it to program Fortran. Eventually going to use it as a native platform to learn MIPS ASM.
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>>57974794
What sensors for sleep meadurement?
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>>57975378
http://image.armbian.com/betaimages/
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>>57985429
>nixie tubes
don't do this to my dick anon
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There was a game on here awhile ago, where you use assembly and program microcontrollers. What's that called?
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>>57979923
I still haven't touched the neos on the software side, being a bit lazy on my days off. The OPZ was kinda difficult to find an OS image for. The orangepi website has debian images, but all of the download links were broken/missing. Eventually I was able to get an download straight fromt the armbian website. Poked around a bit but haven't set up any further than that since I'm still trying to get my cluster master machine working.

Some notes on hardware; the nanopi neo is considerably smaller than the orangepi zero, and also has a thinner pcb. Unfortunately both boards have a capacitor right next to one of the mounting holes. My metal standoffs were small enough to avoid touching them, but I had to shave off some material from the nylon ones to prevent them from knocking against them when I screwed the standoffs together. Electrically the two boards are almost identical, with the exceptions of the zero having PoE and wi-fi, and the CPU being an H3 on the neo and an H2+ on the zero.

>>57978587
Parallella is a board designed specifically for distributed computing, 2 ARM cores, 16 RISC cores, and an FPGA. There's a version with proprietary high throughput interconnects on the underside of the board, but I've opted for just using ethernet.
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>>57987232
Shenzen I/O?
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>>57987298
Thanks!
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I have an odroid c2, plan on doing LFS on it. How fucked am I?
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>>57980729
Aren't screens that are compatible with the pi 2 also compatible with the pi 3 b?
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>>57980196
I got mine in July and back then it was really slow. Only after the GPU update in November did it become great for the price and size.

>>57980729
If you arent concerned about quality too much, get a car rearview camera monitor with AV in. For HDMI I would go to 7 inches and get 720p.

>>57985306
You can connect ESP8266 for example to the wifi and have them advertise a service via mdns. Then you can find them without needing their IP.

>>57987292
Yeah googled it, thanks anon. Seems quite a bit more expensive than standard sbcs, but special.
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>>57971850
>are these good for learning basic electrical engineering?
No, and if you meant electronics also no.
You have to start with more basic semiconductors like single transistors and diodes, learn to make gates and amplifiers, then you can move to opamps, switching regulators, radio receivers, etc. If you just want to get into microcontrollers I'd recommend using the MSP430, there's a lot of documentation, Atmel/Microchip MCUs are ok but avoid Arduino.
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>>57989997
really disagree with this one. I started with Arduino and wound up prototyping my own board from there on.
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>>57990021
Whoops, for got pic related.
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why does a breakout board for a £0.69 component cost £9?
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>>57990104

>what is engineering and design
>what are supporting components
>what is labor
>what is not everything is the jews
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>>57990210
>making a shitty little pcb apparently costs a billion times more than making a microelectromechanical gyroscope or accelerometer
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>>57989997
this man speaks the truth

>>57990021
>>57990039
>started with Arduino and wound up prototyping my own board
that probably explains why your board layout is so freaking terrible
zero actual knowledge, just throwing components together until something kinda works
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>>57990250

As a hobbyist I think it's just fine.Where's your home designed PCB? You're the electronics engineer right?
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>>57986208
by components, he probably means little sparkfun breakout boards
designed by retards, for retards
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>>57990284
you think it's fine because you don't understand what a decoupling capacitor does and why we put them next to ICs
just one of the many things that are wrong on that PCB
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>>57990284
enjoy
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>>57990420
What is that for?
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>>57980261
Nobody in the embedded software industry uses Shitduino. Putting it on your resume is the equivalent of putting PHP on your resume: yeah it's programming, but it's not relevant to the field.
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>>57990553
It looks rf
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>>57990553
communication interface for my car
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>>57990696
correct
>>
>>
>implying you need any of this shit
All I do is make prototypes in arduino and employ embedded programmers to design the boards.
Then we send them to china to produce the boards.
Why would you want to be an embedded codemonkey when you can be a designer and employ the embedded codemonkeys?
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>mfw I'm here using arduino and shipping real products while an EE embedded codemonkey hand-makes electronic parts for his shitbox car
I bet he thinks he's really smart lol
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>>57990782
Excellent film
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>>57975813
Try CodevisionAVR next time. Way better. My team built a fully autonomous soccer robot with it in high school. Shit was cool.
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>>57990947
We believe you

>I don't care if you don't believe me hurr durr
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>>57990988
Why the fuck would I sit here designing boards like a retard when I can get a chink in Shenzen to do it for me for peanuts AND mass produce and ship the boards as well?

It's like being an auto mechanic these days. Absolutely retarded.
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>>57990947
>real products
>IoT memeware
good luck with your kickstarter, friend
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>>57983346
Reynolds and Reynolds isnt automotive electronics faggot
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>>57991028
Jesus christ kill yourself my dude

You sound like an insufferable faggot
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>>57991045
>implying I'd ever want to live in burgerland
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>>57983346
>>57991045
>I hand-design embedded systems for automotive electronics
Can anyone be any more full of shit?

Nobody fucking hand-writes millions of lines of code for automotive embedded systems.

>>57991077
Just putting an uppity computer MECHANIC in his place.
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>>57991104
Pajeet plz go
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planning on making this
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>>57991109
>Just putting an uppity computer MECHANIC in his place.

Kek wut

Nigger you're not making any sense
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>>57991135
You're a manual laborer, pajeet.
Deal with it.
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>>57991147
What are you even talking about
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>>57991179
LMAO butthurt, get rekt faggot
u mad?
u mad?
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>>57971850
>any cool projects you guys have personally made with any of these?

Currently i'm building an RFID cat door and i also have a couple of lights on my house wired to an arduino relay board, connected to RPI3 with an NGIX server that its controlled through any web capable device on my house. I even got myself a Locked smartphone really cheap, glued to the wall, wired it to a charger, disabled all the battery saving features and i left it with an open browser connected to the RPI server so its like a touch panel for my lights.

>are these good for learning basic electrical engineering?

No, i used to work on PLC development an its completely different from arduino.
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>>57971908
Was the latency fesible, any dropouts or anything?
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>>57991189
>>57991147
>>57991109
>>57991028
>>57990947

Wow, what a profound display of downs and faggotry.
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>>57990766
Oh, that sounds like a really cool and badass project.

Are you just planning to utilize this for debugging and diagnostics or are you also planning to do something fancy like app-accessible live readouts or something?

There are some kits where you buy some adapter for the diagnostics port and get access to it via bluetooth and a mobile device (a tablet in the console of the car is really nice to have) app.
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>>57991279
It is only now that I scrolled down and noticed the shitfest.

Nvm
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Are u on drugs
>>
>>
the ride never ends, kids.

rip
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Lol holy shit
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>>57984993
>I let an international media conglomerate construct my entire reality for me

good goy
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>>57978430
Just one lcd panel?
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>>57991808
Hmmmm... Currently: Yeah, just one lcd panel. But adding others with lenses might yield interesting results in terms of room lighting. That is an interesting thought.

You will be not forgotten by me, anon.
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>>57976072
Kek
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>>57979774
Any projects to do with this in standalone?
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>>57992163
Yeah, can do most things an Arduino can do on its own. Has SPI,PWM,I2C etc
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>>57978450
You try soldering BGA components onto a breakout board.
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>>57991540
heh, next you're going to tell me he didn't mock a handicap person and never said all Mexicans are rapists.
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So I've been toying with microcomputers like the raspberry pi for a few years now but I always ran into trouble with x86 based program compatibility. I'm considering buying a Jaguar One with an intel atom Z3735G CPU to run some basic windows ISOs for personal use and entertainment.
While I've seen competitors like UDOO, their products are typically $90+ for anything that isn't ARM based.

Overall, just looking for a cheap and semi portable microcomputer thats capable of running x86 based programs and basic versions of windows. Here's the link:
http://www.jaguarboard.org/index.php/com_virtuemart_menu_configuration/products/buy/accessories-en/207/jaguarboard-detail.html#specification
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>>57992620
Good luck running Windows on 1GB RAM and 16GB EMMC. If you want x86, get an UPBoard or something with 2/4GB RAM.

What are you doing on an SBC that requires Windows?
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>>57992667
16GB shouldn't be too much of an issue. I ran Windows 8 on a 16GB SSD on my laptop for around a year.
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>>57992620
latte panda
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Has anyone run an odroid on batteries? Seems like a pretty solid board, wanna build it into something portable.
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>>57992667
I'm likely going to be using the system as a portable retro computer running basic shit like Windows XP/98 or older. I know its almost insulting to be using that sort of hardware for piss simple shit when it could easily be emulated, but I'm looking to assemble something like a Libretto style retro computer with it.

>>57992808
Looks great, but I can't seem to find anything under $100. Plus I can't seem to find any good sellers for it. My ultimate goal is to find something x86 based under $100, while its a difficult task its certainly possible.

Thanks for the input!
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>>57992486
........

he said that the mexican government, by not tightening border security, was letting in the criminals who, had they not been criminals, would have tried to immigrate legally.

he said that the people the mexican government wasn't trying to stop from illegally immigrating were rapists.

did you even fucking see what he said
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>>57993482
It was sarcasm, anon.
I'm a Mestizo that voted for Trump.
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>>57993332
XP/98 wont run on these, why dont you install libretro on ARM Linux? Unless you wanna play windows 98 games.

I am trying to find a cheap Windows 7 sbc for Mach3 for my chink CNC these days actually
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>2016
>not using allegro for board design

are you shills even trying?
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I am sorry for shitposting so hard.

I forgot to take my meds.

I've never even seen an arduino IRL.
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