Is there anyone in tech more full of himself? He was a desker

people are willing to listen, it'd be a waste to stay quiet

>>57967781
He is a great source of cool software

>>57967781
The op of chinkshit general is pretty full of himself 2bh.

>>57968211

Maybe it's Snowden.

>>57967781
you're cringing cuz you low key want to suck his dick

>>57967781
>makes
Do they hold a gun to your head and go "make this face?"

This man sacrificed his life for the sake of humanity. What did you do today?

You would rather he never did what he did?

>>57967781
Who should give a shit what you think?

At least anything he says is backed by topics worth considering. Meanwhile all you have is your worthless opinion backed by your personal "feelings" that are irrelevant to the important topics.

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Richard stallman
"I'm not a God, I'm a saint. Wtf why do people worship him? All he believes in linux,linux,linux

>>57967781
fuck off, nigger

>>57967781
He's done more good in a few years than you have in your entire life. Fuck off, NSA.

>>57968275
Also he doesn't look promising either

>>57968275
>no consumer level successful linux desktop OS
hes just mad that Mac is an objectively better version of Unix in general and by extension BSD is better too.

>>57968259
I shitposted on an anonymous board for the main purpose of discussing Taiwanese tapestry, I'm feeling pretty proud of myself.

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“I think Snowden is a terrible threat, I think he’s a terrible traitor, and you know what we used to do in the good old days when we were a strong country — you know what we used to do to traitors, right?” Trump said

“Well, you killed them, Donald,” said fill-in host, Eric Bolling.

Mr. Trump’s response: “Well, he is damaging America.”

“This guy is really doing damage to this country, and he’s also making us look like dopes,” he said. “We can’t allow this guy to go out there and give out all our secrets and also embarrass us at every level. We should get him back and get him back now.”

>>57967781
He is certainly riding the wave of self-gratification, that's for sure. In a perfect world he'd be dead already ("imprisoned") but apparently either the gubmint is just that incompetent or he's been allowed to live because it gives the proles something to believe in.

He committed treason, which a lot of people seem to selectively forget or hand-wave away. He deserves whatever inevitably happens to him. A patriot would agree.

>>57968409
you need practice being more subtle

>>57968409
a literal cia nigger spotted

>>57967781
Who are the modern moral philosophers?

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>>57968275
way to misquote him you autistic CIA coon. He' Saint IGNUcious

>>57967781
Get the fuck out NSA pig shill. You can't fool us.

>>57968944
thank mr stalman

>>57968944
Thank you mr stallman, i'm very grateful for linux

>>57968944
thank mr stalman

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>>57968958
that or they're just edgy neo-cons who think they're special just because they readily enjoy sucking establisment cock.

I know these people exist. Just like the SJW special snowflake mentality but for right-leaning hipsters. Its fucking weird

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>>57968646
>>57968667

I wonder if Russia hands him to Murica now that Trump's in da White House. Would be a nice gift from Putin to his new best buddy.

>>57967781
Every popular musician, singer, comic artist and sports player is put in the same position by the media. The media knows only one way to handle a celebrity; treat them as all-knowing and tear them down when they stumble.
If you're famous your opinions are gold. I doubt that Snowdon actually rings up the newspapers with his thoughts but I'll bet he's pestered for them by reporters skilled in pumping less-than-bright people.
The very fact that his pronouncements appear to make him look bad says that he is not bright enough to control his public image.

>>57968409

NSA pls go

>>57967781
>portrayed as genius
>he literally was a sysadmin
can't make this up

>>57968327
Better timesink.

>>57967781
>fancies himself a modern day moral philosopher.

He's also considered a top leet security expert, is he one indeed?

>>57969771
>celebrity

You answered it yourself. A "celebrity" is someone who you are supposed to be celebrating,

>>57970333
>He's also considered a top leet security expert
He was just a cog in the machine.

Anyway what about Assange, any signs of life, any (credible) news at all over the last month?

>>57967781
>gives evidence to open secrets
>pretty much confirming every conspiracy theory people had about the government
>gubmint hates him, which makes sense
>inexplicably, part of the public also hates him
Why are Americans so fucking retarded?
t. Naturalized immigrant

Snowden is an actor.

>>57968259
he didn't sacrifice anything. the wget wizard did middle school tier payback at his boss because he stepped out of line and got in reply all and called out on it
fucking CONs

>>57970333

Who considers him a leet security expert? The man knew how to use privacy tools to the level of a mildly-seasoned /g/ user. He had a cozy desk job in fucking Hawaii of all places at a branch of Booz-Allen Hamilton consulting.

He had access to lots of power-points and various forms of documents, not 1337 classified malware.

Now after he got caught he goes on Twitter and uses big words whenever something happens in the infosec world and he tries to give his take on what happened like he actually knows what's going on.

>>57970649

1. He was SysAdmin, not some "desk job guy".

2. He made about 122.000 dollar per year, had a super comfy life and everything the average /g/-tard can dream of.

3. He sacrificed his career and comfy life, knowing damn well that they would try to hunt him down. Only because he felt it was his duty as human being to not let the US get away with that 1984 nightmare without people's knowledge.


His ancestors smile down at him, imperial.
Can you claim the same?

>>57970784
OH MAN MICROSOFT SHAREPOINT ADMIN WHAT A VALUABLE PERSON


>3. He sacrificed his career and comfy life, knowing damn well that they would try to hunt him down. Only because he felt it was his duty as human being to not let the US get away with that 1984 nightmare without people's knowledge.
keep larping faggot

>>57970784
>122.000 dollar per year,
That's kinda lame for a linux sysadmin. They can earn two or three times more.

>>57970849
You're not fooling anyone NSA shill, enough of the psych ops program.

>>57970849
I'm sure he' is valuable to the team that he is on

>>57970875
>They can earn two or three times more.
[citation needed]

>>57970784
>to not let the US get away with that 1984 nightmare

But what dd he accomplish? The gobmint/agencies etc. haven't backed off with any of their botnet bullshit at all. Only effect was that people accross the world learned about it, realized they can't do anything about it anyway at this point, and became accustomed to it. What would be the better thing to do, have the president proclaim on TV "we're spying on you all", or have some disposable pawn cry out "hurr, they're spying on us all"?

>>57970849
>SHAREPOINT ADMIN
>>57970875
>linux sysadmin

Please make up your mind what kind of admin he was, because linux and sharepoint kinda hardly go together.

>>57970784

He was NOT a sysadmin. You've clearly been reading too many tabloids. He was a junior infrastructure analyst. He had literally nobody under him. He handled classified material. That's it.

Keep typing like you know. BTFO.

>>57970939

>But what dd he accomplish?
The only people who cared were the tech companies the NSA had infiltrated. Now, all of their communications have mandatory encryption even internally. This closes a major gap there and forces the NSA/co. to use FISA courts instead of bypassing them.

Whether or not they have any real oversight or not is a question we can't answer. But at least it was something, and everybody knows that the US government is openly hostile to the Tech industry.

>>57970849

Sure, they gave him a huge pile of money, but basically he did nothing there.. LOL

But even if he was just the janitor, the point is not what he did there. The point is he stood up and pulled it off. Do you think it's easy to get information out of a CIA/NSA - related lab?


The point is he told people that their government is in fact lying, that they have created a fucking evil program that can xray everybody's activities without consent.

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>>57968944
thank mr stalman

>>57970784
122k a year isnt much for hawaii

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>>57970977

F T F Y
T
F
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>>57971045
very reliable source

>>57967781
Because there are millions of people in his exact same position who just let the government fuck people over and there are billions in his position who would have just kept their day job.
Thats what makes him better than you.

>>57970981
>Now, all of their communications have mandatory encryption even internally.
The spooks can either decrypt it all by themselves, or the companies will have to decrypt everything anyway if the spooks show up and order them to.

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>>57968944
thank mr stalman

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An americlap I know wouldn't eat pic related because it's named after a "treasoner"

fucking retard, ah well, more fucking delicious cheese for me.

>>57967781
Mr Snowden seems like a cool guy

>>57971045

For real? Congrats dude you cited fucking wikipedia as your source that's going to win this argument

>>57970939

So you're suggesting it's better to give up in the first place? Cool..

It's mandatory to reveal shit like that, because even if you and me can't stop it, it will have an impact. At least people might think more about WHAT they reveal about themselves.


You see, the US TLAs have done a lot of shit in the past. They do everything to CONTROL people. And I mean everything (including killing people). They have no moral, the end justifies the mean in their opinion..


Just look up TEMPEST, MKULTRA, ECHELON..

XKEYSCORE was just the next step. Do you tihnk we should let them get away with that? What will be the next step? Is this the world we want to live in?

It's not to late. Not yet.

>>57971053
>>57971135

Wow, and your source? Fucking nothing!
So shut your trap.

>>57971139
Exactly this.

Now people know they need to encrypt their shit, now people know they don't actually have to unlock their phones when the police tell them to. People are more aware of their rights in regards to privacy because of Snowden.

He's a good egg in my book.

>>57968409
>He deserves whatever inevitably happens to him

I agree.

Reading some of what Snowden wrote, the guy doesn't have the intelligence to make it beyond low, middle IT manager for the rest of his life.

He certainly doesn't have the mental capability to be a philosopher like he fancies himself to be.

He was just an IT scrub that leaked classified information.

Listening to Snowden's views on "democracy" is like listening to a McDonalds cashier lecture us about how to run a big business.

>>57971085
>The spooks can either decrypt it all by themselves
Quantum attacks aren't viable yet, Anon. Although in 5 years, RSA-based schemes are dead.

>the companies will have to decrypt everything anyway if the spooks show up and order them to.

Yes, I said that. Although you can argue that int services don't need to play by FISA/etc rules, it's still the official system for doing so.

>>57969771
>Celebrity
Do celebrities live in asylums? Do you honestly think he did what he did just to become famous?

>>57971194
>He was just an IT scrub that leaked classified information.
>Listening to Snowden's views on "democracy" is like listening to a McDonalds cashier lecture us about how to run a big business.

This.

>>57968409
That is retarded.

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>>57968219

>>57970939
I think the question: ''What did we accomplish''? is more suited. He gave us the information and proved people's suspicions and what are we doing with all that information? Willingly using Windows 10? Dismissing and opposing encryption because it's cool to do so?

>>57968372
Scary thing about trump is I can't tell the real quotes from the fakes.

>>57971092
I would eat the fuck out of that wax rind.

>>57971167
>People are more aware of their rights in regards to privacy because of Snowden.

And that's why they accepted Windows 10 and its "telemetry", even though (assuming it were technically feasible back then) Microsoft would be dismantled immediately if they did the same thing 20 years ago with Windows 95?

>>57967781
That is completely true - but someone had to do it

besides, even though we all already knew about government spying, these revelations were a good thing. Now we all know how bad it is, to what extent it has been taken. This also helped to get things moving with more and more individuals and groups taking steps and providing secure means of comms

>>57967781

>just a desker

Would you be more impressed if he were a field commando of some sort?

Are you 14 yet?

>>57967781
Edward Snowden is the biggest traitor in the world. Not only that, but he is so fucking full of himself, its not even funny. Now he just shitposts on twitter and everyone sucks his cock.

Also, GEORGE SOROS is funding the pardon snowden movement. Fucking liberal

He made a huge personal sacrifice for a valid reason and he's more entitled to his 15 minutes than most people with a public media presence.

>>57967781

He was good in inception though.

>>57970977
He said he was a system administrator in his documentary.

>>57972043
if he said the jews did 9/11 would you believe him as well, simply based on the fact that he said it?

>>57972081
There is evidence the jews did 9/11

>>57971962
It's still shitposting even if you're being ironic.

snowden is a hero

kill all americans

heil hitler

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>>57971057
>there are billions in his position
>six-figure income for a comfy job in Hawaii

>>57972124
You're stuck on a tiny ass island where it's expensive as fuck to live on, traffic is a bitch, and the native Polynesians are meh tier.

>>57972124
hawaii is shit, lots of crime and unemployment not to mention internet speeds are total crap

>>57972143
>billions

>>57972212
>lots of crime
I thought it varied based on what island you lived on.

>>57972215
Ask yourself, are the billions worth it because of where you live?

>>57972212
what? i get 120mbps for 50usd
tech jobs are absolute shit here though. you either work slave wages in IT, work for the fed, or move to continental.

>>57972299
automobile crime is really bad, also micronesians are the equivalent of niggers

>>57967781
There are a lot of of unintelligent celebrities that give their opinions on how to make the world a better place. People ask him his opinion and he answers.
He gave up a lot to give us this knowledge and warn us of the CIA nigger, so his morals are in the right place.

>>57972315
>so his morals are in the right place.
he literally leaked shit as payback to his boss, dipshit

>>57972332
moral of the story: treat your employees right :^)

>>57972332
>>57972369
I mean we can all agree that it was a dumb thing to do, but would you rather that this had not happened?

Would you rather that the people didn't know how bad things have become? I realize that not much has changed, but we are literally in Brave New World, at SOME people recognized what is happening and began to make lifestyle adjustments

>>57972410
>I mean we can all agree that it was a dumb thing to do,
But I don't

if they have nothing to fear then they have nothing to hide :^)

>>57972332
>going solo up against the CIA for to get back at his boss
source or gtfo

>>57967781
Fuck off CIA nigger. Stop spreading disinfo.

>>57972081
One of the top military personnel that hates Snowden called him a system administrator too.

>>57972124
Eddie never made close to six-figures.

>>57967781
RMS

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>>57967781
I stopped liking him when he came out as a fucking libtard SJW.

Fuck him. Hope CIA catches this shithead and throws him into SUPERMAX fed prison for life.

He said what Petraeus leaked was worse for national security than what he did. Did he out himself as not being as valuable as people perceived?

>All this discussion of Edward Snowden
>No respect for Bradley/ Chelsea Manning
Is it because (s)he got le SJW meme operation and started wearing dresses?

>>57972937
Just give it a rest NSA, your shilling isn't going to work.

>>57972937
RED ALERT GENTLEMEN
We need to spam /g/ to fight the onset of terry davis threads

>>57971053
ahha wikipedia xDDD i love living in 2005 :33

>>57968944
thank you mr stalman

>>57967781
>Is there anyone in tech more full of himself?

OP

but then saying you're "in tech" is a stretch

>>57968372
>“This guy is really doing damage to this country, and he’s also making us look like dopes,”

wow sounds familiar

He's a pretty cool guy.
what he did was a true service to the American people, Even if he is kind of an awkward guy.

also not really sure how anyone in the tech industry would be anything other than a desker? Do you think people in the NSA are running around gunning down people or something?

>>57970849
PRISM

>>57968372
I like how he loves Hates Snowden, But loves Putin.
but Putin is protecting Snowden...

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OP loves getting cucked by the gubment

>>57971092
>extra mature cheddar
damn that looks good

>>57968944
thank mr stalman

may you have a thousand underage lovers in paradise

>>57970784
Snowden was and still is a CIA asset deployed to the NSA in order to steal relevant intel on the them and discredit them in the eyes of the public.

Prove me wrong
>protip: you can't.

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>>57970351
but... we are? he exposed the fact that the largest, most powerful and most ""free"" nation on earth is actively surveilling their citizens.

he's not a celebrity he's a fucking hero.

>>57968409
>a patriot would agree
so patriots are okay with warrantless surveillance? I'm pretty sure any real patriot would be against the government spying on it's own citizens. But you're either a retard or a shill, so I'm just wasting my time.

>>57974664
wild assertion made without any evidence

Prove me wrong
>protip: you can't

He's the bravest American ever, i challenge /g/ to name someone who's braver.

>>57968327
>mac
>good server OS

>>57968265
I don't know, man. It's not like everyone didn't already know the shit he uncovered. He basically risked his life to confirm what everyone already knew. In the end it really did nothing because no one was held accountable, and the NSA went along with their business as usual.

>>57974798
Hilary Clinton

>>57967781
snowden was given every opportunity
elevated above his station -- who else
gets to do what he did, with his level of qualification (zero)

they elevated him & he stabbed them in the back because he was "bored"

now he misses big macs

he's a piece of shit

>>57971194
>He was just an IT scrub that leaked classified information.

bradley manning is the hero

>>57971045
'system administrator'
he wasn't even a programmer

>>57975679
nah he did the right thing

>>57970977

>Implying sysadmins aren't bottom of the barrel

>>57969837
the janitor stole a load of tapes
& they have him as some sort of a guru

>>57970649
he knew how to use tools
incapable of writing

he is a 'user'

>>57975560
It's a bit fishy though. I mean, some stereotypical white nerdy guy comes out and confirms the most obvious truths we had already been playing with since the 90s, nobody even tries to stop him, and he is being paraded around like the poster child for modern freedoms/rights.

Makes me think it's all just a scam to hide the real shit that's going on. Better to control the leaks by giving the public shit they already knew/suspected then to have the real juicy shit leak. This whole thing has given them justification to tighten up security and make it even harder for potential whistle blowers to leak sensitive info.

>>57968259
worked till 1 in the morning in a fucking hospital.

>>57975772
were you paid until 1 in in the morning?
you got overtime?

ever worked as a programmer (say, in a hospital)

you don't get overtime

>>57968944
thank mr. stallman

>>57975740
according to you, what is the juicy shit?

>>57967781
>Is there anyone in tech more full of himself?
literally anyone who posts in Arch forums

>>57970649
this 2bh
all he did was steal some PowerPoints during his lunch break from teaching Pajeet about Microsoft Word

>>57967781
He's done more to raise awareness over surveillance and privacy issues than you will contribute to humanity in the net sum of your life

Fuck off and go kill yourself, you miserable jealous fat fucker

>>57975785
I see your point I work as a fucking companion. I am 18, I have no experience of real life at the end of day but it is hard when you have to go to class the next day early in the morning. sorry anon IT must be hard for you.

>>57968409
the sad thing is that as long as government agents keep repeating this drivel, people will eventually start believing it

>>57976048
>I work as a fucking companion
No need to use a euphemism, just say "prostitute."

>>57970504
>middle school tier payback
So when's the last time you informed the public of systematic criminal espionage and crimes against humanity by the U.S. government when you were in middle school?

>>57970849
>when the government agents get this desperate
You're about to lose your job too, soon. The NSA won't continue paying such a miserable failure of a psychological “engineer”.

>>57970939
>But what dd he accomplish?
He set the scene. It's the world's time to act.

If you want to go down like a lamb for slaughter for the sake of minor conveniences, feel free to continue being passive. But don't expect to find much sympathy on a technology board with that attitude.

>>57971279 is right. The real quesiton we should be asking ourselves is “what are *we* going to do?”. Snowden has already played his part.

>>57970784
>1984 nightmare without people's knowledge
And now the US is getting away with their 1984 nightmare with the people's knowledge.

As much as I admire his actions, and find the material he leaked to be pretty enlightening, he really didn't change anything.
The goyim were too far gone to be saved.

>>57971053
More reliable than some two-faced, lying NSA psyop agent on an online malay basket weaving forum

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>>57967781
How is him trying to reveal American government overreach any different from the engineers trying to reveal the faulty o-rings on the Challenger before it exploded? It seems to me like he just did what was ethical and now people are trying to "interpret" it.

At this point the entire Snowden/NSA affair is basically 99% political and 1% actually about laws and technology. I don't see why it should even be posted on this board.

>>57968944
'thank mr stalman' on this picture

>>57968259
>This man sacrificed his life

He is still alive you retard.

>>57967781
He earned it by permanently fucking himself for the greater good.

>>57967781
>a desker
>manages to fake the nsa networks so that he can copy shit
>anon thinks its so easy as to press a button on windows 10
>he literally gave us insane amount of info about us foreign policy
>he uncovered the truth and became a traitor

>>57971194
This. Fucking this.

>>57968409
And this too.

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>>57968206
Found out about Qubes cuz he shilled it.

>>57971355
nobody said millenials weren't apathetic sheep. you see it in every newfag// who posts that they use Google Chrome despite ungoogled-chromium being regularly mentioned as an option

>>57977859
>this man left this woman
Good riddance, she looks like a whore.

>>57977907

Even ungoogled chromium is backing the wrong horse. Firefox is designed for the user. Chrome/ium is designed for data mining. Sure, Iridium and Ungoogled-Chromium are more privacy centric than Chrome, but by using them instead of Firefox it shows the entire web that "well, looks like "Chrome-like browsers"are growing. That's why we get sites that are built for Chrome and why people like even fucking Signal, the privacy-focused messenger service, makes a fucking Chrome app for its fuckheaded desktop client instead of a proper stand-alone cross platform program.

>>57977859
Yeah, and I found out about Signal because he shilled it. Qubes is pretty great, but not very beginner friendly to use.

>>57978029
Firefox have become pretty bloated and slow though.

>>57968944
thank mr stalman

>>57977859
120k year

God this thread gets shilled harder then the US right before election..

Why are the gobs still that butthurt?
Can't you just accept you lost?

Or are there unironically people that are THAT stupid?
I mean, seriously: do you LIKE people accessing your webcams? You're free to carbon copy all your mails and all porns you've watched this week to the NSA, but please let other people decide for themselves, OK?


>>57978143

The last versions of Firefox are getting faster.

On my machine Chromium is not really faster than the new Firefox. Also I hate that chromium dropped stacked tabbing.. ;_;

>>57967781
Nice try NSA.
>>57968252
>>57968259
>>57968273
>>57968282
>>57968297
/thread

>>57967781
>Is there anyone in tech more full of himself?
Yes, every linux user

Is it hard to become/work as system a administrator?

srs question