/fglt/ - Friendly GNU/Linux Thread

secondf

literally lmao'ing (laughing my ass off) as i'm watching this image.
why did he feel the need to do this?
im literally going to post my celebration of it here the very day he dies.

http://motherfuckingwebsite.com/

>>57952476
http://bettermotherfuckingwebsite.com/

>>57952492
https://thebestmotherfuckingwebsite.co/

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>>57952539

>>57952476
>>57952492
and https://bestmotherfucking.website/
are good

>>57952539
this one is a good example of why the first one were invented.

>>57952579
is this the "pepe" meme? iv heard a lot about it

>>57952615
it's the "helper helper", it helps people who need help to get help

>>57952615
What? No that's sad frog.

>>57952615
>he doesn't know his memes
http://knowyourmeme.com/memes/apu-apustaja

>>57952645
/g/ is pretty slow with memes, you're lucky when you actually get a 4chan meme instead of a googled thumbnail ;_;

>>57952539
>>57952492
>>57952476
http://thebestmotherfuckingwebsite.com/

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who here //fglt/oldfag/?

I was one of the co founders of the chocked meme

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>>57952671
http://evenbettermotherfucking.website/

>>57952678
My only claim to fame is the sortie meme on DJT on /a/.

>>57952689
GTK user here, what's that on your pic

>>57952692
lmao
that retarded place is on /int/ now where it rightfully belongs.
*applauds to everyone who helped kicked it off /a/ once and for all*

>>57952470
>being unable to empathize with someone having a bit of fun
t. /g/entooman

>>57952721
Desktop threads should come back

>>57952743
agreed

>>57952743
shitholes like /fglt/ and /djt/ should be moved to the shithole known as /int/ where they all rightfully belong kek
when did you leave /djt/ by the way?

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>>57952539
i dont think so tim

>>57952743
Go to 4keks irc and tell them.

>>57952678
>>57952692
>>57952721
I'm the one who started forcing the Windows users = Hindu/Indians on /g/.
Pajeet and the likes of it.

Feels good

>>57952769
I hate you. You turned /g/ into /pol/.

is genkernel cheating?

>>57952769
why did you post this as a reply to my post >>57952721
why do you think it was a remotely relevant reply?
I like you though, you turned /g/ into /pol/. Which is much appreciated since this place really needs at least a counter balance.

>>57952794
no. it's fine for your first time. do learn manual configuration though when you get a working system. it's a fucking pain in the ass to chroot again if you fucked something up so just stick to genkernel for your first time.

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>>57952678
other co founder reporting in.

>>57952678
british memes are so fucking shit

I've started using fedora for the first time ever in my 7 years of linux and I'm loving it. After Ubuntu, then Debian, then Arch, then Gentoo, then Debian again, and now to Fedora everything just seems to work. yum/dnf works as well as apt, the default programs pull my email/calendar into gnome and its notifications nicely, bluetooth JUST WORKS, and everything has sane defaults. The installer was quicker than any other distro I've installed, default disk mounting is easy to manage, and my t420 has never run a distro better.

I've installed i3 in case I need to do some productive work with a workflow and environment I'm used to, but I'm going to try this gnome thing for a bit. Anyone else using fedora and have any tips or tricks they've learned during their time using it?

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>>57952835
my friend! you were the one who animated my edits?

wow this thread is shit

I get a problem when i am trying to run mpd

 Dec 11 23:20 : socket: Failed to bind to '[::]:6600': Address already in use [\code]
what can i do to fix it . And this is my mpd.conf file 

 music_directory     "~/Music"
playlist_directory  "~/.config/mpd/playlists"
db_file             "~/.config/mpd/database"
log_file            "~/.config/mpd/log"
pid_file            "~/.config/mpd/pid"
state_file          "~/.config/mpd/state"

bind_to_address     "::"
port                "6600"
metadata_to_use     "artist,album,title,track,name,genre,date"

audio_output {
    name        "PulseAudio"
    type        "pulse"
}

audio_output {
    name        "FIFO"
    type        "fifo"
    path        "/tmp/mpd.fifo"
    format      "44100:16:2"
} 

>>57952881
I'm on Arch if that's relevant

is that ponyfag who made the debian script still around here?

>>57952881

systemctl mask mpd.service

systemctl mask mpd.socket

Both as root.

Then reboot and report back

>>57952881
try changing the port

>>57952909
this.
then do sudo pacman -R systemd

>>57952891
>>57952937
>do i fit in yet /g/ XDD

>>57952952
What? i don't understand this post. i was just trying to help him.

>>57952952
kek

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>>57952866
That's me :)

>>57952974
i don't do anything its someone else
and i didn't post that >>57952891
i use debian btw
and this fix the problem with the port >>57952909

one more thing i have set me music directory to ~/Music but when i am run ncmpcpp and make a db update with the u it doesn't sow anything

>tfw still on 4.8 kernel
>tfw I still call the whole platform Linux
>tfw my distribution follows the GNU/Linux nomenclature

>>57953050
Try doing sudo apt-get purge systemd
It should solve your problem.

>>57953050
>and i didn't post that >>57952891
He did that to me yesterday too. Hilarious, isn't it

>>57953063
>tfw I still call the whole platform Linux
As you should.
Switch to based gentoo.

>>57953050
>one more thing i have set me music directory to ~/Music but when i am run ncmpcpp and make a db update with the u it doesn't sow anything

Look through the ncmpcpp man page and see where an ncmpcpp configuration file should be and what should be in it. I believe there is a setting in that config file to set your library location

>>57953129
Yes. You can set that by doing sudo apt-get purge systemd.

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Can we now say that systemd definitively proven it's superiority and earned widespread adoption through its technical merits? stop the undue hate and the spreading of fake news. systemd IS the current best init, and by far.

>>57953151
it's not an init system though. its a bloated piece of garbage.
also, why post this "image" if you don't understand 80% of it?

>>57952864
Install freetype-freeworld and change your fontconfig settings to enable rgb and lcdfilter default.

>>57953140
Do you really think anyone's falling for this stuff? How new are you?

>>57953072
Can you help me redo this shit

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>>57953183
>also, why post this "image" if you don't understand 80% of it?
Why would you say such a thing? Do you know me? I actually have a very good understanding of linux (kernel) and the bottom layers of the user land (excepting with android).

These thread have become utter cancer

Fuck you all

>>57953234
really? what's an r*p? (masked the second one here so you can't google)
this isn't related directly but its all i need to know from you.

>>57953229
I'm just helping the guy for fucks sake
>>57953232
Do sudo apt-get install openrc

>>57953247
>generals
>not reporting
I've been telling you niggas for almost 5 years now. It's all your fault.

why isnt the Start key bound to anything in linux?
could it at least open the start menu like in windows ? why isnt it set to do that by default ?

>>57953328
im actually writing a kernel module to handle this as we speak
what do you want it to do? open the windows start bar?

>>57953247
do you ever get bored of whining?

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>>57953212
Fonts look beautiful now. Thanks a lot anon

>>57953328
what? none of my keys bound in linux?
i running arch btw

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why can't FEH open .svg images?

that really sucks

>>57953372
No problem.

>>57953360
Nah, I'm European

>>57953404
of course you are. if you were american, you would be rioting

>>57953247
Go to another imageboard then. There's plenty of smaller communities with much more technically talented people that haven't fallen to the ever-growing tide of loud newfags on the left end of the Dunning-Kruger curve. There's no use complaining here when you're outnumbered

At the very least (2*4)chan's /tech/ is somewhat better than here.

>>57953432
/tech/ is the worst

>>57953328
That's managed by your window manager. For example in the most recent version of gnome the "Super" key is mapped to a start menu of sorts so you can search or get a view of all your open windows.

>>57953432
>2^3's /tech/
got anything better bruh?

so how is fedora with gnome these days

>>57953399
>>57953399
BUMPP

>>57953518
back to /b/ you go

So, I installed a package running Mint 18. Now what? I searched the package name in the "start menu" area on my desktop, but I have no idea where to begin looking for the program.

Xubuntu is so fucking fast holy shit

>>57953359
well. in gnome, XFCE and MATE it could open the "apllications" bar at the top left, instead of having to click it.
and in KDE and LXDE it could open the "appications" bar in the bottom left instead of having to click it
im not sure why this hasnt been done.
>>57953453
"Super" key means Start key?

>>57953552
you what?

>>57953556
What package did you install?

If it's an application then you can just type the application name in the terminal and it will run.

>>57953518
svg isn't an image format, pleb

>>57953578
visualboyadvance

I've already tried that, but it says "visualboyadvance: command not found.

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>>57953599

>>57953634
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/VisualBoyAdvance-M

Even though it's the Arch wiki, it's good documentation for most Linux distros.

>>57953634
visualboyadvance is deprecated
use mGBA for GBA
Gambatte for GBC
more info here http://emulation.gametechwiki.com/index.php/Game_Boy_Advance_emulators

>>57953234
This is not an accurate representation of Windows audio system

>>57953234
see >>57953288
just in cased you missed it the first time. waiting for the answer since you seem to know so much about linux.

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How does linux handle windows malware?
What will happen when plugging a USB flash drive infected with windows malware into machine running linux with wine installed?

>>57953634
It's some of these programs which aren't lowercase. VisualBoyAdvance

So I installed .net 4 onto my linux install via wine and every .net program I've tried to run works fine except for gnomeria which claims I don't have .net installed even though I do. Gnomeria is rated as platinum on WineDB yet when I try to run it it claims I don't have .net 4 installed even though I do and other .net programs work fine. Does anyone have any suggestions?

>>57953815
who is this qt?

>>57953815
nothing

unless you run said malware and the malware was designed to target linux hosts running wine then it could destroy user files

>>57953815
It can't do shit.

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Will /fglt/ ever recover?

>>57953919
kys fgt

>>57953982
from?

>>57954010
friendly thread, friendo

>>57954010
are you sure? she doesn't appear when I google that

>>57953982
IDK but Win10 is even more of a pain in the ass to use than Win8 was. It was easier for me to set up hidden wifi on Slackware than Win10 which flat out refused to connect for an hour straight. It wasn't even trying to connect either I checked the logs on the router.

>>57954030
Yes I'm sure. Google harder.

>>57953982
But anon, I only worship Saint IGNUcius.

>>57953982
>powershell on linux
LOL yeah right. Nobody in the world would want that. Windows user doesn't even want it.

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>>57953982

>>57954050
>worshiping mortal beings
he isnt even a full human.
why? ...

>>57954070
>just Windows Registry my shit up

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>>57953928
>specific malware to attack Linux
Let's assume it's not like that and simply a malware aimed at windows.
Do you mean auto run doesn't work with linux?
And I need to run the malware myself?
>>57953953
So the malware can't run if the usb flash drive not mounted?

>>57954118
>Do you mean auto run doesn't work with linux?
>And I need to run the malware myself?
Buddy autorun off of CDs and other remote media isn't a thing anymore on all operating systems since Windows 7.

>>57953560
super means the windows key/start key
>well. in gnome, XFCE and MATE it could open the "apllications" bar at the top left, instead of having to click it. and in KDE and LXDE it could open the "appications" bar in the bottom left instead of having to click it
YOU CAN PUT THOSE ANYWHERE
ALSO, YOU CAN BIND IT TO WHATEVER THE HELL YOU WANT
ON MY KDESKTOP, IT OPENS THE APPLICATIONS MENU IN THE TOP LEFT, WHERE THE PANEL IS.

>>57954056
>microsoft joins linux foundation
expecto botnetum

>>57954134
are you retarded?
serious question here.

>>57954133
>he has a windows key

>>57954154
>she doesn't have a windows key

>>57954147
>what are binary blobs

>>57954131
Then how does these malware spread through USB flash drives?

>>57954166
>she

Two questions about Arch Linux
1. I'm connected by ethernet and my connection just stopped working after rebooting, it was fine before. What do?

2. Why does it fucking stutter. I installed the Nvidia drivers but every second or two there's a stutter.

>>57954185
>what is a deblobbed kernel
>what are binary blobs which are already present in the linux kernel and have been for a long fucking time
are you retarded?
serious question here.

>>57954208
>flash drives
what's that?

>>57954208
ask in /fwt/ - Friendly Windows Thread

>>57954133
>YOU CAN PUT THOSE ANYWHERE
well ! im a normal person that doesnt want to use the console for every little thing !!!
i was just wondering why thats not the case by default in a fresh install !!! im a normal person that doesnt want to use the console for every little thing !!!! AHHH !!
*turns into a super saiyan*

>>57954134
Microsoft writes code for Linux since forever, joining the Linux Foundation doesn't turn it into a new thing. Actually a very large part is made by Microsoft developers.

>>57954221
https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/netctl#Profile_configuration

>>57954166
>>57954212
lmfao
i like this.

>>57954221
1)You didnt enable your ethernet connetion using what ever program you are using(wicd,netctl,netmanager,systemd)
2) Your hardware is shit or is misconfigured

>>57954118
Autorun doesn't even work with Windows anymore, haven't you noticed how every remotely-recent version asks you what you want to do when removable media is inserted/plugged in rather than just running some shit randomly?

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I just finally got a job involving Linux after using it on my machines for 5 years. Thanks in part to /g/ although I rarely visit anymore.

I have a background in infosec academically, then I switched to computer engineering because hardware attacks intrigued me the most. I have been repairing laptops/desktops since I was a teenager, and mobile devices for the last 3 years. I took intro to linux but it was slow so I dropped it, taught myself to program and use bash well, and have been using it daily ever since. I also have ran a few botservers and made a few websites.

My current machine is a samsung chromebook running seaBIOS and gallium os. I have one of the early intel atom models with ethernet, displayport, and upgradeable RAM/mSATA SSD ( so 8GB / 500GB). I also have many remote servers, mostly using debian.

Most of what I'm working on now applies my networking skills as well as acquiring a palette for common webserver issues. I have to handle 6 chats/tickets/calls an hour. The pay is low but pays the bills with a little extra.

I want to get really good at this though. I have a harder time focusing on this stuff at work compared to when im curious at 3am. I work with alot of smart people but try not to rely on them, but escalate as needed.

Any tips for a webhost nub?

>>57954247
good luck explaining that to a retard who spouts "binary blobs" without actually knowing what one is.
im pretty sure he doesn't how the basics steps of conversion to source to an executable. why do they even feel the need to spout their retarded memes when they can't be bothered to learn the basics?

>zsh: command not found: screenfetch
why doesn't it work? I'm using Arch Linux

>>57954242
You're trolling but in case anyone actually retarded reads this
a)console is not difficult or leet, this is a fantasy.
b)every desktop enviornment I've used(xfce, kde, mate) lets you place the panel anywhere and bind keys with gui applications.
not him also, im a her(still have a penis though)

>>57954276
>>
FROM
lmao
>>57954270
eveyone here is an arch running "nub" themself

>>57954289
try doing pacman -C systemd
it's known to cause this issue when used with zsh

>>57954270
>webhost
Get a VPS and do it your self

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who else /4.9/ here?

What's a good quality mouse for GNU/Linux?

I want it to last years. Nothing fancy that requires proprietary drivers.

Thank you.

>>57954357
>GNU
why would this matter when picking a mouse?
that would be handled by the kernel, which is linux in your case

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>>57954350

>>57954366
They just spout their retarded shit thinking they are "correct" without actually knowing anything. just mindless shitposting, much like animals.

>>57954366
go playing with your microsoft friendy linus

>>57954292
>console is not difficult
no its not, its just very pedantic and backwards
>lets you place the panel anywhere and bind keys with gui applications
ive never found that GUI applications, i guess id have to google how to install them through the console, like everything else...
>>57954357
disable mouse accel to have a better mouse experience no matter what mouse you use.
steelseries rival 100 pc bang is pretty cheap and has decent build quality. should last more than the average

>>57954315
i have 3 VPS including one my company supplied me with.

I'm hosting my shops and public sites on their server because its nice seeing the servers from the webhost end and knowing right away when theyre down or damaged.

I keep my personal stuff like projects and logs on my server, and use the third as a vpn / proxy server for connecting to my seedbox.

>>57954385
What's your terminal font?

>>57954400
Linus? Linus Torvalds right? why would you even think he posts here? are you out of your fucking mind?

>>57954409
stop this shitposting. you're going to attract actual retards.

>>57954433
linus detect

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>>57954131
So Linux with wine installed doesn't recognize auto run files?

>>57954449
what? are you stupid? why would he even post here?
what manner of retardation is this?

>>57954451
No. Jesus why can't you fucking google those things by yourself?

>>57954462
>google
enjoy your botnet, cuck

>>57954419
yuki

what is the best linux for gaming???

>>57954505
gentoo

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>>57954462
Because it's not accessible?
What about malware's that delete/overwrite MBR?

>>57954499
Found it, thanks!

>>57954521
stop posting 3dpg pictures

>>57954505
Arch is good for that because it has newer libraries and kernel for GPU. Especially important if you use AMD. You could also use gentoo testing branch. But arch is easier to setup if you're new.

>>57954521
>What about malware's that delete/overwrite MBR?
How is it going to do that if it's not executed?

If you're worried so much just put a noexec flag in /etc/fstab for all your removable media and run a scan it with ClamAV before doing anything else

>>57954542
this.
post anime or gtfo

>>57954530
no problem

>>57954505
see >>57954519
>>57954543
>But arch is easier to setup if you're new.
it's not though. Explain why you think it is

>>57954385
Why do you have the same PS1 like me

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Is gentoo rolling release?

Also, who else here pronounces "gentoo" with a hard 'g'?

>>57954598
because it's the best

no bloat shit here

>>57954614
yes.
i pronounce it like gen in "generation" so it's like gen 2

>>57954583
It has scripts like wifi-menu where as with gentoo you need to manually configure wpa_supplicant, for example. It's also a lot faster to install. 45 minutes or so for arch (faster for a non-beginner, 15-20 minutes), several hours for gentoo due to the initial emerge -auDN world.

>>57954614
i pronounce it like 「그」

isn't gentoo a meme? why would you compile every program of your system? when you're ready compiling, the program already got a new update and you're compiling infinitly

>>57954681
It's not as bad as it sounds. The initial install can be frustarting, but updating with emerge is a breeze and doesn't take as long as you'd expect as long as you do it often. Do it everyday or two so they don't add up. Also there's firefox-bin so you don't have to compile that.

>>57954658
why not just set up the wifi afterwards if you have an ethernet cable?
waiting isn't hard though, it's literally the easiest part of installing anything, even stuff like ubuntu.
>>57954681
it seems like you don't understand what the word "meme" means.
because it gives you the maximum possible level of customization without getting into actually writing/patching software
does your program get updated every few minutes? lmao
yeah, if you're a poorfag with a shitty processor.
>>57954721
>Also there's firefox-bin so you don't have to compile that.
literally takes 18 minutes on an i5 4670k, that isn't even with clang.

>>57954658
>>57954681
you guys are baiting pretty hard tonight.
don't you know there are ramifications for such actions. what if you cause a shortage of memes because of this? how will you face your families after such an incident?

>>57954755
Not everyone has a fancy 8 thread CPU.

>>57954755
>using clang

>>57954761
communist tier knowledge of economics
what they would do is cause an inflation of the meme supply which in turn would cause the value of memes to drop.

>>57954776
memes were a mistake anyway

>>57954770
it isn't 8 thread though, just a 4 core cpu.
>>57954775
>not using the technically superior and faster for compiling firefox in particular c/c++ compiler
what's wrong with you, "mate"?

>>57954681
why wouldn't you want complete control over your system?

>>57954776
You're assuming new memes have been in production. 4chan went bankrupt in 2011 and halted production

>>57954808
because you end up messing with config files your whole life and adjusting flags

its just not worth the effort

>>57954798
Yes, I agree. which is why I fully encourage that kind of posting so that memes finally hit rock bottom in terms of market value.
>>57954817
You don't need to make new original ones, just rehash them since they are still counted as memes

>>57954808
>implying you can't compile your packages on literally every other distro
the reason people install gentoo is the same why people install arch: the logo and the resulting epeen others cringe about

>>57954801
Do you use -j5 or -j9? I have an i3 and it has 4 threads even though it's a "dual core". I think i5 has 8, so you'd use -j9 and get double the speed. What do you get when you run nproc?

>>57954841
this

How do i find out all of the modules and configs for a custom kernel?
Is there a way to disable everythign, and then use some tool to get what modules you need? And what module config name they fall under?

>>57954866
Copy a working kernel config to .config in the kernel directory. Like the one in /boot/ of your livecd or current running kernel. Then make localyesconfig. It will enable all the currently used modules from the currently used kernel and disable the rest. Make sure to plug in any devices you plan on using before doing it though.

>>57954866
ask your developers

>>57954904
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KMU0tzLwhbE

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>>57954904

>>57954841
this, but there's a little difference, when using gentoo you actually learn something

>>57954825
i really hope you are baiting at this point

no one can possibly be so retarded as to think that editing a few config files and setting use flags (which isn't even a different thing in that you edit config files for both anyway you fucking idiot (this shows you haven't even used it))
>>57954841
implying other distros like arch have a fucking package manager that is explicitly made for doing that. are you literally retarded? are you going to compile every single package manually on your arch? how will you track that without a package manager? im assuming someone retarded like you can't use slackware so what's your answer?
please post a command with which you could recompile every single package on your distro right now. im fucking waiting...

>>57954844
Depends, my i5 4670k doesn't have hyper threading so i use -j5
You should use -j5 if you have 4 threads.
>>57954866
lsmod
lspci -v
also this >>57954897

>>57954926
you don't learn about anything but running and maintaining gentoo though, maybe a few concepts related to compiling and a few "lower level" linux minus gnu concepts.
that being said it still is literally the best.

>>57954928
so tell me, do you actually
> compile every single package
?
no, you may use USE flags for ~10 packages, that's it, no need to install a whole distro and compile literally everything in order to have 10 packages updated with your custom flags
that's stuff you can script manually, also, most distros ship their packages compiled in a sane way anyway

>>57954968
s/compile/configure/

>>57954968
>I'm angry, angry because gentoo

>>57954928
>i really hope you are baiting at this point


>having to adjust every little detail in the system to my liking
>when running skype, has troubles with ALSA and pulseaudio (mismataching 32 bits vs 64 bits)
>compiling packges takes a lifetime
>conflicts between nvidia in old laptops
>X breaks, spend whole day trying to fix

nah, i'm better off in other distro (xubuntu)

>>57953399
do

feh --magick-timeout 1 image.svg

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Hey /g/, what's the best lightweight and user-friendly distro for daily use?

>>57955060
Ubuntu

>>57955050
>unrecognised option "--magick-timeout"
>1 does not exist , skipping
>no imlib2 loader for that file format

>>57954897
>localyesconfig
What package would this be part of?

>>57954968
yes. what sound even remotely surprising about that? why would you want to compile 10 packages and not everything else? especially if you care about security, it would be idiotic to compile 10 packages with hardened gcc and not the rest.
but you have every single package with your particular use flags, most of which are automatically set by your profile. on other distros you literally get all of them. why the fuck would you want gtk3 support in a kde package if you don't use it, why the fuck would you want packages with systemd, bluetooth etc support if you're not using it, and so on.

show me how you would "script" this without making it more convoluted and harder to maintain than gentoo - setting a hardened gcc profile (you would have to set everything that goes into doing that manually), recompiling your toolchain, compiling every single package on your system with your now hardened toolchain
do this in less than 3 commands.

>>57955047
nope, most of the work is done by your profile. best practice is having a small number of useflags set globally in your make.conf.
that's your retardation, gentoo doesn't have this problem.
is your lifetime anywhere from 1~2 minutes to 20 minutes? how are you even posting here then?
that's your retardation, gentoo doesn't have this problem.
nope, literally never had a problem with it for my entire usage of gentoo which is more about a year at this point. why would you even think this would be a problem? you can have the non-bleeding edge xorg if you want to you fucking retard, pls learn the memes and use them correctly.

>>57955060
ubtunu

>>57955060
>frog image
go back to rebbit

>>57955060
The one I'm using.
>>57955087
>>57955050
>current yea
>using feh
memers...

>>57955102
>current yea
>not using feh

kys

did anyone have already tried SWAG ARCH?

>>57954775
>not using the best compiler
Has the usage of GNU negatively affected your brain?

>>57955095
try to use gentoo in old laptops, faggot

>>57955118
even display is better than feh, info

>>57955140
literally did that. on a fucking dual core 1.8ghz celeron
not a problem at all, the initial install was long though.

emerge -uD world

>>57955140
Q2D here, consider banishing yourself from the human realm, faggot

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>>57955125

I remember reading that clang compiles faster and uses less memory, but the binaries are slower. Is the last part true?

>>57955092
It's included in the kernel sources...

>>57955128
>he fell for the clang meme

>>57955161
you should emerge --sync if you haven't recently

>>57955173
>>57955157
gentoo doesn't give me any performance boost in particular

everything takes longer to workaround and cumbersome

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>>57955196

>>57955206
>gentoo doesn't give me any performance boost
thats the most retarded thing read this week

>>57955184
>Is the last part true?
nope.
the first part is true for the most part.
there are usually more or less equal, but where clang is faster it's faster by a lot.
for general use it's better, if you need something really really specific you would have to look up benchmarks of that specific thing, but you wouldn't need that if you asked the question.
>>57955202
>he uses words like "meme" without knowing their real meaning
piss off, gnu kid.
>>57955206
what are you comparing it to?
not for me, maybe that's your personal issue.

>>57955226
>thats the most retarded thing read this week
not an argument, pleb

>>57955230
>what are you comparing it to?

to previous distro i ran in my laptop

>>57955230
>clang user is also gnu hater
oh wonder

Can I easily switch between a tiled and a non-tiled wm on manjaro? I wanna try a tiled WM but without any of the commitment.
I'm a bit of a software-whore.

>>57955239
>not an argument, pleb
heh retarded

>>57955246
Yes, your should be able to choose different dekstop sessions via your display manager.

>>57955258
>still no arguments
lmao

>>57955268
>display manager
>BLOOOOOOOOOOOOOAT

>>57955246
no you have to install a whole new distro

>>57955239
what is this previous distro?
>>57955241
i'm not a gnu hater. i use gnu myself.
i'm a "everything gnu is better xD" hater, which you seem to fall under. just because clang is a technically superior gcc rival so to speak you take it personally because of your retarded devotion to anything gnu and fsf.

>>57955087
>He doesn't have imagemagick installed.

>>57955286
windows 98

>>57955280
I'm using manjaro. Pretty sure I have up any pretense of non-bloat at the door.
>>57955268
Thanks.

>>57955241
>clang "user"
lmfao
This just sounds retarded.
>compiler "user"
Wow... At least check your posts before submitting them. I am 99% positive you don't know what a compiler actually does.

>>57955302
i have you dunce

i also have others image viewers installed

but i wanted to use feh, because its simple

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>>57955273
>lmao
kek soo retarded. i couldn't have done it without retards like you though <3

>>57955322
where do i get this? can I get a free copy?

>>57955314
Whats wrong with "clang user"?
It clearly defines someone who just brings their code and compiles it without looking into the reasons for the code generation directly.

>>57955329
don't get it, it's crap which loads fucking jquery

>>57955322
>still no arguments

i have all day kid

>>57955314
>I'm a clang compiler

>>57955343
> kid
projecting much?

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Really having a hard time here. After I moved winetricks into the wine category steam just deleted it from it even if it shows up in the editing software. How do I get it to show up again?

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>>57955318
Are you sure you're a human?

>>57955339
It's a meaningless phrase. Anyone who has ever used clang has more than likely used gcc as well.
And it's not like you can use it and not use gcc since we are in a linux thread.
>>57955355
Yeah, now there's no doubt about your retardation

>>57955377
is that feh?

how?

>>57955343
>>57955356
where'd you go kiddo?

>>57955380
Well if you're gonna take the surface evaluation of the phrase yeah it's pretty dumb. But it's very useful to contrast to a clang power user or developer who'd actually look into why clang isn't generating what they wanted and change it.
There's a lot of compiler fighting going on right now. It's not what should be happening.

Even so being a clang user would imply you have experience with clang as opposed to gcc or msvc.

>>57955414
> kiddo
projecting much?

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>>57955376
Been at this for days, any help?

>>57955386
>is that feh?
Yup.

>how?
With extra "--magick-timeout 1" argument.
I don't know why you can't pass --magick-timeout argument, maybe you're using older version?
My output of "feh --version":

feh version 2.18
Compile-time switches: curl exif help stat64 xinerama

>>57955422
The chances of you finding a clang developer or even contributor here are pretty low so you can just assume everyone here is a simple "user" without explicitly stating it since it looks fucking retarded the way he used it.
>It's not what should be happening.
What do you mean by this?

>>57955444
mine is

feh version 2.2
Compile-time switches: curl xinerama

using xubuntu 12.04

i tried installed your version from source, but said i had no imlib2 library or something

>>57955433
cant come up with anything? you projected your age onto me, and so calling you kiddo got you come back

>>57955437
You waited 6 minutes, fuck off

>>57955472
cant come up with anything? you projected your age onto me, and so calling you kiddo got you come back

>>57955448
>developer
Anon that's a pretty fussy line among performance programmers anyway. If you find an issue with the code generation you can either mess about with your code to make it generate what you want (Common example would be to pull out if statements out of loops or save the value in local variables, which they all still frequently mess up) or you could look at the compiler and fix the issue, and every other instance of these issues you'd have.

I've done it myself and I don't consider myself a particularly expert compiler person.

>>57955465
You really shouldn't be using such an old version of ubuntu.

>>57955477
I've searched for an answer to this for 3 days. I'm kinda getting frustrated.

>>57955485
Oh and to be clear the former is compiler fighting and the latter is working with the compiler.

>>57955499
You arent entitled to shit, post your problem and wait

Why is /fglt/ so shit? All this fighting and shit posting.
Don't you people have better things to do?
Like making next year the real year of Linux on the desktop by interviewing people who aren't using it and fixing their issues.

>>57955484
>>57955472

i'll take that as a yes, i gonna reward my self .

>>57955496
>You really shouldn't be using such an old version of ubuntu.

why not? i like it

>>57955516
the idea of wasting someone else's time is euphoric to me

>>57955516
i work at 4chan

>>57955516
see >>57955540

>>57955501
True. I'll keep searching for a solution in the meanwhile.

>>57955516
>kernel on the desktop
never

When people say they want the latest builds of everything so they use arch or fedora, why is that? What are you guys doing to need it?

Is it mainly for devs who need to have the latest stuff so they can keep their own software current and compatible? Surely a casual home user doesn't need any of that.

>>57955484
don't die on me kiddo

>>57955642
It's just autism or alternatively security.
Linux developers are so slow it genuinely doesn't matter if you have a rolling release or not.

>>57955652
never baby

>>57955632
Is your kernel located on a remote server?

>>57955666
whew i was worried

>>57955642
getting the latest features all the time is pretty good. i don't "need" them, they are just a really nice thing to have.

>>57955642
>Surely a casual home user doesn't need any of that.
Most noticeably recently, amd gpu drivers in the kernel tree with 4.8
If you're stuck back on 2.6.32 on your "stable" os, you wont get such optimizations and features

A,B,C,D,E new features on your program, but you're 10 versions behind and will never see it for another 10 versions, maybe if you're lucky

>>57955677
see you tomorrow

Considering that Ubuntu is just Debian Sid with Canonical sprinkled over it, is it possible for Ubuntu to break in a way where it can't boot after updating?

>>57955705
how about no

>>57955689
>they're just nice to have
And the risk of bugs and effort of updating is worth it?

>>57955715
i have to go bb

you have to let go

>>57955725
How bout that 9 year old kernel exploit?

>>57955725
Yes, you have the risk of bugs on any version though and the newer versions get a lot of retarded shit fixed.
>effort
There isn't any. You just update once in a while, if you don't hold back too long there shouldn't be any massive updates which aren't a big deal if you are on a binary distro anyway.

>>57955725
>effort of updating
Running ONE command when ever you feel like it and getting fresh updates?
SO TAXING

Is Ubuntu (or some Ubuntu flavor) my best choice if I'm looking for a somewhat stable webdev machine and I don't know A LOT about Linux?

I know my way around the terminal and shit, but I feel I'm not ready for a full blown tiling WM and using only CLI software.

>>57955537
It's out of support by now. You aren't getting any updates.

mv file /dev/null

basically wipes the file, while

rm file

just (recoverable) unlinks it, right?

>>57955763
>effort
>there isn't any
Obviously untrue. It's either very little effort or a lot of effort. But it's never no effort. Even if automatic. And beyond that you may find changes that you dislike, which certainly have to be accounted for as an effort in updating as you'd have to roll back or deal with it.

>risk of bugs
With a current version you've established that for your use case there's no bugs or you're aware of them. Updating buggy software is different from updating for the sake of updating.
>>57955773
Thanks retard. We needed that pointless comment.
>>57955753
Frankly its probably not an issue for most users. Of course security is a valid reason to update but the ease of update or how frequently your distribution does update shouldn't be factored in to your choice.

Any reason to use gentoo-sources instead of just getting the newest kernel from git?

>>57955949
The better question is: Any sane reason to use gentoo at all?

>>57955949
They patch it to work well with gentoo.

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Does anyone know how to remove the dock in gnome? I've tried downloading this https://github.com/zacbarton/gnome-shell-extension-hide-dash and changing the metadata file to include 3.18 ( I think that is what comes with budgie?), but I don't get any options for extensions in gnome-tweak-tool. What am I doing wrong?

>>57955465
Why not using precompiled package?
https://mirrors.kernel.org/ubuntu/pool/universe/f/feh/
Install with

dpkg -i package_name.deb

or something like that.

>>57955966
Yes, there isn't any non-retarded reason to avoid using it. The only objective reason could be using literally ancient hardware.
>>57955969
How exactly?

>>57956027
please keep your slavic contained. this is an English/Japanese thread/site.

>>57956027
Thats how you break your system.

>>57956029
Security things I think. And making sure that tmpfs is enabled and stuff since gentoo uses tmpfs.
https://dev.gentoo.org/~mpagano/genpatches/

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>>57956027
>kernel.org

>>57956027
Please stop that. It makes you really easy to identify since you use that grammar a lot.

NUDES: >>57956103
NUDES: >>57956103
NUDES: >>57956103

we should reinvent op boobs to be quiet honest family

>>57956165
pls no harrassment

>>57956200
Tech-related women with non-sexualized, but huge breasts.

>>57956165
who is "we"?

>>57956027
Stop using feh.

If you need an image viewer and wallpaper setter, use imagemagick. Alpha males use mpv and enjoy animated gifs, webms etc.

There is literally no need to install additional useless software like feh.

Is Ubuntu (or some Ubuntu flavor) my best choice if I'm looking for a somewhat stable webdev machine and I don't know A LOT about Linux?

I know my way around the terminal and shit, but I feel I'm not ready for a full blown tiling WM and using only CLI software.

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>>57952324
Not sure if this is the right place to ask...

I want a Libreboot system, though I'm unsure of how to go about getting it. I don't have hardware/low level firmware experience beyond building a desktop, fixing a laptop or two, and configuring GRUB from an installed operating system. Will hardware flashing be difficult? Should I just buy a laptop with Libreboot preinstalled? They're only like $200 on ebay. And if I fuck up the Libreboot installation can I flash the stock BIOS and still have a usable PC? I have a Thinkpad T400 btw.

Also why is RMS such an autistic sperg? Video related. He just flings his spaghetti everywhere.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jskq3-lpQnE

>>57956322
>apparently is such a "hacker" to need libreboot
>doesn't even know how to do "hardware" "flashing"
kek

>>57956315
Ubuntu is always the best choice for learning the whole thing. Also, you can install any WM like i3 in Ubuntu and switch to it when you login. It also doesn't prevent you from using and learning the shell.

>>57956322
>Also why is RMS such an autistic sperg? Video related. He just flings his spaghetti everywhere.
if you did a speech in english and then was asked to do it again in spanish, you would at least lose some shit.

>>57956322
gtfo leah, nobody likes you

>>57956347
>is such a "hacker"
No, I just want freedom. Answer the questions or go fuck yourself (assuming your tiny penis could reach).

New thread when?

>>57956372
No.

>>57956378
>leah
What?

>>57956380
>he thinks he will automatically get spoonfed

>>57956380
>i just want "freedom"
from what? assuming you know the answer to this and can explain it in detail, why don't you know how to fucking set it up? fuck off, memeing kiddo.

>>57956393
see >>57956132

>>57956393
when someone flys planes into some matching skyscrapers

>>57956372
Did that last week. I don't speak subhuman spanish though, it was a different language.
>you would at least lose some shit.
I'm not an autistic retard so nope.

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>>57956395
Stop wasting space and just slit your wrists.

>>57956397
From IntelME. It's a micro controller that's inside of the CPU but separate from it. It can send and receive network packets which is twice as scary knowing that it also has full TCP/IP stack and memory access. It can turn your PC on and off. I want it disabled. Share your advice or stuff a sock in it, dickhead.

>>57956452
do you want an award?

>>57956457
>Stop wasting space and just slit your wrists.
"tasty, salty, crispy (You)'s only on 4chan"

>>57956486
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VMUJ1J6dhro

>>57956468
nope, i don't expect an award for being able to function at a basic level. RMS might want one though for being able to somehow restrain himself from masturbating and shitting himself on scene.
>>57956457
Why would he stop wasting space if he slits his wrists? Cremation isn't very popular so you would have to wait for a long time before he actually starts decomposing and taking up considerably less space

ever heard of amd, kid?

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>>57956532
>Why would he stop wasting space if he slits his wrists?
Are you truly this dense? You're like a fucking neutron star.

>ever heard of amd, kid?
Yes. It's actually worse in many ways in regards to user freedoms. AMD products are also just shit performance wise.

>>57956596
define "user"
define "freedoms"
explain in what way it's worse in many ways
>wants to buy a shitty 200$ laptop
>has a memepad t400
>"""""""cares""""""" about performance
lmao
also, try using better images of this frog next time you decide to shit"post"

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>>57956639
>define "user"
>define "freedoms"
Not being watched 24/7 by big brother.

>explain in what way it's worse in many ways
Read up: https://libreboot.org/faq/#amd

>>wants to buy a shitty 200$ laptop
>>has a memepad t400
>>"""""""cares""""""" about performance

>tries to be a big internet tough guy
>looks like a tard who "just" "really" "likes" "to" "sperg" "the" "fuck" "out" "with" "quotation" "marks"

>also, try using better images of this frog next time you decide to shit"post"
The Pepes are not for your enjoyment. They're for me, not you.

>>57956754
wew, fag

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>>57956774
I'll wait while you try to shit out something better, you filthy tech illiterate normie. If only you could see how fucking smug I am right now.

>>57956816
i'm sure, every person who has taken a punch at you is chuckling

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>>57956834
Try capitalizing your sentences and using punctuation, you underage faggot.

>>57956834
kek

@57956754
@57956816
>hasn't posted a single non-new image
>claims he isn't a normie
fucking kek
nice try, r*dditor

nah, i ain't visiting your site. can't explain it in a short way - you are a retarded kid who doesn't know shit.

>implying i need to try to be tough when i actually am
>can't even use quotation marks
>somehow i'm the "sperg" here
lmao
>>57956894
hm.... im really thinking right now...
i dont even know which """website""" you came from

>>57956933
i wont correct my posts for once.

>>57956754
try not using the iternet then, you fucking retard
the US governemnt can watch literally everything unencrypted (soon they will break most encryption algorithms too)
you are being watcherd RIGHT NOW by an agent

>>57956933
You're either an Aussie crack head or a 12 year old. None of your posts are even close to grammatically correct and you try too hard. Stop acting like such a childish cunt, you childish cunt.

>>57956953
People can already see your face. Explain why you're not outside RIGHT NOW spreading your ass cheeks for the world to see.

>>57957063
i am indeed an assuie
lmao
is it that obvious? i'm not a crack head though

>>57957063
just nutted in my mouth, it was salty but not as much as you.

>>57957597
i just masturbated to an anime image...

>>57957647
watch some mmd's, best faps