/pcbg/ PC Building General

How are the lian li suitcase PC?

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Any suggestions or improvements to make the price lower? This is will be my first time building. Also I'm from Canada so prices are higher.
https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gqbjRG

Its that time of the year again.

Currently, I have a fx-6300 (yes amd cpu lmao) and a r9 280.

Should I make the upgrade to intel OR just get a better gpu?

>>57950401
Get a better GPU.

Hold out until Zen comes out.

Get new RAM, Mobo, and CPU.

>>57950401
I've got an fx 6300 and just upgraded my 750ti to an rx 470. If you're gaming at 1080/60fps just get a graphics upgrade.

If you're gonna be gaming at higher rez/fps then go intel.

So how trustworthy is kinguin? I'm looking into getting windows 7 key from there or are there better ways to get win 7?

What's the best "Bang for buck" video card these days?

Would it be batshit retarded to jump to X99 right now? Currently have a 4770K. It does OK when I rip CD's and do audio/video encoding but I can't help but imagine extra cores and memory bandwidth would be a godsend for that kind of thing.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/thzMM8

Replacing mobo, gpu, and storage on my machine, reusing psu, cpu, ram, disk drive, and case.

Will be using pc mostly for gaming (overwatch and league, mostly) on a sony 3d display (a little wider than 1920x1080). Some game development (unity, blender, gimp, and unreal) as well.

Think I could get away with this to start? Tight on money so limiting myself to about 500 for these parts. Will probably need to replace the cpu and upgrade ram eventually.

>>57952369
Well, apparently the first Zen CPUs are going to launch in January, so unless they turn out to be a total flop, you're better off waiting.

>>57952425
Don't waste too much money on that build. Get a cheaper mobo and maybe only a RX470 4G, depending on what you play aside from Overwatch and LoL.
You do have a custom cooler, right? If not, time to get one.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/CWkTZ8

>>57952003
r/microsoftsoftwareswap

What do you do with your pcie x1 slot?

right now im still on an 8350 OC to 4.8 and a fury x. realistically how long do I have left in this system?
mostly just shitpost and write on the computer, I do some gaming but not as much as I used to, and even then the hardest games to run that I play are witcher 3 and some GTA V. I've started editing a lot more video lately which the 8350 isnt bad for but it isn't great. I dont make a living off of that though so it isn't a primary concern. I added in the storage because I'm running out, but other than that I think this should be fine for a while, yeah?
only upgrade ive considered doing is switching over to a dual e5-2670 build, but with zen so close I think i might just hold of entirely, if zen blows it out of the water go zen, if not either go dual xeon or just keep my 5 year old space heater
what do you guys think?

Hoping to pick your brains a little, /g/ents.

Got a budget of $750 and looking to build a small profile PC to take to LANs (There's two of us going, and while lugging around one R4 on a trolly is fine, I really don't want that size again)

Not looking for anything stupidly small where cable management is going to be akin to the Trolley Dilemma.

Just a nice bang for buck system that runs most LAN type games on whatever settings.

Thanks /g/ents

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What would you change/improve? Cannot decide for the 6600 or 6500.

>>57953117
btw I changed the PSU for a EVGA 600B.

>>57953117
Either get 6500 or 6600k and z170 board. 6600 is not worth the price over 6500.

>>57953051
went a little over, i think its like 770
gotcha i7 level cpu, 480, SSD, 8gb of ram and the case is pretty small and light
only concern would be there's no space for cable management, so you'll have to not be retarded putting it together. If you need to shave some bucks slap a hdd in instead of ssd, I just threw that in because i figured a LAN pc probably doesnt need much storage anyhow

>>57953171
shit, forgot link, here it is
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/txXHqk

>>57953155
Got it, thx man.

>>57952685
Case and cpu have plenty of cooling, never had overheating ussues.

What cheaper full atx mobos should I consider? Also, I am prepared to spend the money for the 480 8gb, I regret trying to save a few bucks on my gpu last time.

>>57952764
What makes this better than kinguin?

>>57953117
>>57953130
What >>57953155 said, the non-k 6600 has shit value compared to 6500 and 6600K.
>32GB RAM
For what fucking purpose? Your choice of CPU/mobo tells you all you want is to play games. If that's the case, get no more than 16GB.

So my current PC is getting a little dated, i'm thinking of getting some median upgrades to tide me over until i do a new build.

The RX 470 or 1050Ti seem very reasonably priced, but i'm a little tempted to spend the extra money for a 480 or 1060, I only really want to play games at 1080, and it'll be paired with an i3 4430.

>>57952824

You have as long as it's going to function.
Everything your new build would do, your current system already handles at least adequately.
Ask yourself, is getting ~15 extra frames in games on high/ultra settings and a bit faster editing times worth it?
If you have the money, sure why not.
Always nice to have capable hardware which doesn't experience any hangups when doing creative work.
But I doubt you'll experience a mindblowing difference in real life for the most part of your use.
The new build will do everything your current build does, but it will do it 20-50% faster with heavier workloads.
Might not even be that much faster when working with smaller file sizes.

>>57953235

Awesome, pretty damn good looking!

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/N7kTZ8
rate, the GPU and 212evo is from my old PC, will upgrade the GPU in the upcoming year or two
Had X4 965 b4 this

>>57953238
>What cheaper full atx mobos should I consider?
Considering your build, you shouldn't invest too much money. Imho get any 970/990/990X/FX mobo up to 100 bucks.
The one i included (Asus M5A97 R2.0 ATX AM3+) should be enough.

>>57953499
Your PSU is shit, get the EVGA 500B like every other good goy.
No SSD? Get a cheap SSD, it's worth it. You could also get a cheaper B150 mobo for like 75 bucks or so.

>>57953608
Ah, missed that. Thanks!

>>57953668
I have an SSD from older build but I won't keep it for too long and couldn't find it on pcpartpicker, since I don't remember its full name and I'm not on my PC for now
My PSU has always been shit, this is probably the best I'll have, it's also 5 year warranty and semi modular 80+ bronze
Also my whole fucking country doesn't even sell EVGA PSUs, desu the whole premium PSU shit feels like snake oil if you don't OC or do some shit like multiple GPUs or just shitton of hardware in one PC

>>57953737
>premium PSU
>EVGA 500B
LOL.

>>57949852
That's a great wreath.

>>57954291
Do mobo risers/standoffs come with the case or the motherboard itself ?

>>57954403
also forgot, standoffs are non conductive, so I can just screw them all in the case as many holes as I have and let them touch the mobo even if I can't screw in them through the mobo holes OR can I only put standoffs to the place where the motherboard has holes ?

What's the best 1070?

>>57954291
>I can't tell if they have a glossy screen or not
Are you retarded? Simply check the names on the manufacturers websites.
Anyways, see if you can find cheap, used BenQ GL24xx, Asus VH24xx.

Building a PC for 400-500 dollars.


FX-4300
Asus M5A78L-M ATX AM3+
Corsair DDR3-1333 2x4
WD Blue 500GB 3.5" 7200RPM (probably going small w a 2.5")
GTX 1050 Ti
Fractal Design Core 1100
Corsair Builder 430W
Asus CD/DVD
Windows 10

It's for a 13 year old kid, gaming only, probably. 40 dollars over budget (540). Thinking about downgrading the GPU to something 50 bucks cheaper and turning the 4300 into a 6300 but I really have little idea of what's optimal here.

He says he'll upgrade in the future but I'm not sure if that's a feasible thing to build around at this price point.

Really, it just needs to run his games well enough for a few years.

Are there generally good sales after xmas for parts or am I fine pulling the trigger now?

>>57954616
If it's a gaming machine for the child don't get a hexacore, FX4300 is just fine.
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dZFtLD
I recommend you invest 30 bucks more for the 212 EVO, the stock cooler is pure shit.

With how cheap off lease i5/i7 workstations are now building seems like a mistake

>>57954953

Thanks for the advice & list.

Is a switch from the 1050 Ti to the 460 of any consequence? That is, will he be less likely to manage some of the more contemporary games on medium+ settings?

Looks like the power supply on your list is better all around for the price than mine too.

I already convinced my friend to switch from 400 to 500 dollars, and I don't really want to ask him to go even higher for his son's first computer. Is going with a stock cooler going to ensure some overheating if the kid's presumably playing a lot of modded minecraft/CSGO/GTA on good settings?

Hello, would someone be willing to help me pick parts for a 700$ budget build?

>>57955148
what's the main purpose?
any size needs? small, dont care?
do you need more storage? ssd?
man i wanna help but you're making it really fuckin hard

>>57955227
Sorry, gaming/photoshop work, small/medium. i have storage already and 16gb of ddr3 ram

>>57955120
>modded minecraft/CSGO/GTA
No idea about modded games, shit like minecraft and LoL should run fine. CSGO should be fine unless the kid goeson some 64 player private death match server.
GTA V will be problematic. This game will be playable, but not very pleasant. After all 500 bucks is not much and you want to buy a Windows licence, that money could be invested into hardware.

>>57949852
Already started buying some parts for a modest gaming build. Mostly gonna be playing stuff like modded Skyrim. Also, I learned that the motherboard I got has limited plugs(?) for case fans so is there such a thing as a 3-way cable splitter for case fans?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dPqkHN

>>57955245
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/WdJ88K
great cpu, good gpu, you;ve already got ram and storage so there you go

>>57955400
thanks much anon

>>57955359
switch that hdd for a hgst/hitachi
beyond that, how many fans are you looking to have? you shouldn't need anymore than 3, 4 at the absolute most
and they're called headers, just so you know man

Is the 2500k the best CPU you can get under $100?

>>57954722
just pull the trigger now man

>>57955530
for total platform cost yes, but for raw performance no
that would be the e5-2670, the only problem is that the cheapest motherboard is like 300 bucks.

>>57955523
Thanks friend, and the case I got comes with two fans. I was gonna take apart some of my dad's old desktops he keeps laying around and maybe use a fan from one of those, but obviously that's not really high on my priorities. I just wanted to know in case I decided I wanted another fan thrown in.

>>57955577
well, i guess to answer the question, yes they do make them. You cant just run infinite fans off of one header though, theres a limit depending on your mobo and all that. but or average fans and just 2 or 3 you should be fine
honestly I would just go with one or 2 intake (depending on your case) and then one exhaust at the back of the case, then the fan on your cpu cooler too (there will be a dedicated header for the cpu fan). Should be fine!

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what should I install?

>>57955555
witnessed

>>57955806
Nothing. Look up the 'features' of that bloat later, you can still install it if you absolutely want to have it.

>>57955555
Will the 2500k bottleneck any modern GPU?

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Is it worth it to go to an older platform for overclocking?

https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/L4Lrqk or https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/2fbtLD

Already have a graphics card.

>>57956150
Maybe a little. While the year-on-year performance improvement of the intel chips hasn't been impressive, as old as your 2500k is, theres maybe somewhere between 25-35% improvement depending on the benchmark.

Though not many games are CPUbound these days.

>>57956155
Neither.

>>57956150
between the 5-10% improvements over the last 3 gens, combined with pci3.0, ddr4 & new instruction sets, there is a decent difference when comparing 2500k to something like a 6600k
My 1070 is probably only getting ~80% of the fps i could be getting with a newer i5/i7

>>57956150
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WZ_5p9wd2dk

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/q22RwV
should i try to squeeze a 1080? i dont even have a monitor using tv

>>57956272
That isn't really helpful. What would be a better idea?

>>57949852
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PfsCTejolj4

Mildly related to building but this guy just changed up the game.

On that note who here runs hackintosh shit? I'm currently running a nice build with the newest mac and its just dope.

This is Apple's only hope for the future - generalize their OS even if they only run on some specific combinations of gear.

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>>57949852
I just swapped out my HDD with a brand new SSD. Cloned everything over using EaseUS. But when I slap the SSD in it's not recognized. Doesn't detect an OS, nothing. what the fuck did I do wrong? Shouldn't my OS be transferred now?

>>57956375
You could probably get by with only a single stick of 8GB RAM for a month or two until you can afford another. Do you already have SSD/HDD sorted out?

>>57956460
Check the boot order in your BIOS.

>>57956460
Go into the BIOS nigger. Check that the SSD is the primary boot drive.

>>57956483
no

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>order SOC ITX mainboard
>order PSU
>order SSD
>order RAM
>oder case (pic related)

>mainboard, ram, ssd arrive on friday
>have to wait for monday to get my psu
>can't even test components without taking apart my main computer
>case wont be shipped until wednesday or thursday

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>>57956566
at least i'll have a 100% silent htpc

how long can sata cables be? i want to hide my loud ass HDD somewhere in the corner of my room so i can't hear it.

>>57956460
don't clone HDD to SSD unless you want your ssd to die within 1-2 years. or at least dont be an idiot and turn TRIM on.
either way, this is what you get for even trying, cloning always fails, it's not a reliable method.

>>57956483
but i also draw

>>57956483
there is no reason to use more than 8gb anyways for the things you would do with an i5. and why would you use an ugly PCI wifi card with a window case? just get a usb one, or m.2.

>>57956597
That's a bad idea, hombre. You'll need an eSATA cable for that at the very least. There's not much holding the SATA plug in place so even bumping the PC will cause the other end of the drive to get knocked off. Plus, you need to power the hard drive somehow.

>>57956597
>how long can sata cables be?

1 meter.

>>57956782
>>57956786
shit, so my best bet is a NAS, right?
i just want complete silence.

>>57956806
If you want complete silence, build an SSD array. Buy the cheapest SSD for the capacity in multiples and run them in a JBOD with a back-up program to back up the entire array to a cheaper external hard drive.

>>57956839
But that would cost too much. Plus i'll never be able to make use of that speed. I'll just get a NAS and place it where my router is.

>>57949852
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/JqFtLD
Critique my gaming build please.

>>57956974
it's fine, but that HDD will not last a year.

>>57956974
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/Z8D26X
Cheaper build with non-meme mobo, non-cucked Samsung SSD and a HDD that isn't a refurb ripoff which will fail you after two weeks.

>>57957024
>>57957220
Thanks.

>>57956920
>cost too much
>building or buying a nas instead
whew lad

should a 1080 be used on 1 monitor or is it optimal to use 2+?

>>57956506
>>57956500
the SSD is literally the only drive plugged in.

>>57956616
This is the first I've heard of this. Can you elaborate?

>>57954616
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/FK8MM8

Allows for future upgrades with the 1151 socket, a decent psu to support future grapgics options, and a gpu to support 1080p gaming on high settings for almost any game. Plus the ricer case to appeal to his demographic.

For Windows 10, buy a key online. I've bought many home keys for cheap. As little as 20 bucks.

I'm running a 6600k and an Rx 480. PcPartpicker says my max power draw 356. I'm going to be super conservative and say that means I should get a 550w unit to account for power spikes and overclocking. I want a few key things:
>gold
>semi or fully modular
>all black cables for muh aesthetics (windowed case)

Is the EVGA GQ 650w ($71USD) my best affordable option? There's a couple Rosewill units on PCpartpicker, but I keep hearing that they don't make great units.

What does it mean when a GPU is "dual slot"

>>57958654
takes up 2 adjacent slots on your mobo

>>57954569
Help

>>57958722
The cheapest one that has two fans and isn't an evga acx3.0.

>>57958722
MSI or Zotac

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>>57954569
i would say zotac amp because its not too pricey compared to other 1070 and has a higher core clock

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How do I use peer block in order to prevent malicious hackers/ddosers in online video games? for instance, I heard of some guy in GTA online who was being targeted by some hacker guy and thankfully his peerblock prevented a cyber attack. wondering how to do that...

I'm interested in upgrading my CPU and mobo.

Planning on going from a phenom ii 955 to a i5 or i7

Will I need to reinstall Windows 10? How will that work exactly?

>>57958525
Havent read about that EVGA in particular, but check out the Seasonic G series. It comes in your desired 550W, is gold rated, is semi modular, and has great reviews in terms of noise and performance.

>>57958899
I recently swapped from amd to intel skylake myself. Here's what I did: made sure I had my Windows product key on hand (it was on the install DVD thingy, if you have a pre-built machine you might have to find it within the OS)
Then I did the motherboard/ cpu /ram swap, kept everything else the same.
Then I booted into the Windows 10 installer via a USB (dvd should work too), then used that to format my hard drive, did a clean install of Windows, got to desktop no problem. It asked me to re-activate my OS. I used the same product key I was using before, been working for 3 months no problems.

>>57958961
I saw that one. If I had a closed off case I'd buy that for sure, but this one has the multicolored cables. I could get cable extensions or custom cables but that would cost much more than just getting a black cabled one to begin with.
I am going to recommend that Seasonic unit to a friend who wants to upgrade his ancient Kepler rig with a non-windowed case though.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/yhjpQV
Rate
Is it worth it to upgrade my mobo to upgrade the CPU? It's OC'd to 4GhZ right now.
The only thing I can think to add is more storage and maybe water cooling.

>>57958981
does that mean all your data is wiped or what

>>57958981
>Then I booted into the Windows 10 installer via a USB (dvd should work too), then used that to format my hard drive, did a clean install of Windows

Could you have proceeded with out formating and reinstalling is the more interesting question though.

>>57958701
Can you install a dual slot card into a Mobo that has only 1 slot?

>>57959036
Probably. I just wanted to "refresh" my computer, in a manner of speaking.
>>57959028
I put a few files on an external hard drive (about 25gb or so of stuff) and then just wiped the rest.

>>57959015
i would hold off on watercooling, ill explain, if you dont need the storage then wait for a sale, if you need it go for it
reason i would wait for water as well as mobo upgrade is that zen is right around the corner, even if you dont go zen it's still going to hopefully drive prices down. your system is fine for now, so just enjoy!

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>>57959149
what do you mean by slot.
your case has one slot?
The card will only take one PCIe lane on the motherboard, but takes up two case slots.

This case has a gpu that takes up two slots.

>>57959284
Oh that's what slot meant, thanks for clearing it up m8

>>57959015
Nah upgrading to skylake won't give you a huge performance jump, especially if you're just gaming. Maybe upgrade your cpu cooler with some fresh paste, make sure your system is dust free, and then increase your overclock a bit.I woudln't go full custom loop on an aging system though.
Also grab an SSD. How does a $1400 setup not have one?

>>57959261
That makes total sense to me. Appreciate it!

>>57959365
Hahaha I was kicking myself immediately after posting. I have two SSDs, one 240GB for Winders, and a 120GB for a linux install. They're pretty average in terms of their speed, though. I get that it's "aging," but really it can go tit for tat with many other recent builds I've seen. Really all that's aged is the CPU and motherboard I suppose.
How often is normal to reapply that paste, though?
I appreciate the tips greatly guys! Overdue for a cleaning I think as well.

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https://pcpartpicker.com/list/YKCVm8
This machine is intended to be a cheap, small, cute, quiet media center; it could've been bought for about $350 last Cyber Monday.

How difficult is it to find a mATX motherboard and cpu that isn't too expensive, supports ecc ram and has decent performance?

>>57960457
what is "too expensive"

>>57960457
>mATX
>ecc ram
Nigga what are you doing?

>>57960798
I'm a pleb so sub about $250 for mobo+cpu+ram.
>>57960801
Small, silent desktop+server.

>>57960810
man, wanting a mobo, cpu and ecc ram for under 250 is a fucking pipe dream
ecc ram alone is going to eat a ton of your budget
what are you even doing? its REALLY FUCKING HARD to help without ANY FUCKING DETAILS

>>57960829
Just general linux desktop and file server. If it's that difficult to find matx+ecc I'd be fine with a standard setup then I guess. I was mostly wondering how much more difficult a matx setup is to get since I can't really pick between the define mini and r5 since the r5 seems fucking massive.

>>57960867
the r5 isn't too big, i have one
as for m-atx, there are plent of really good options. look at some of the supermicro boards. it isnt the form factor, its the components. server grade and ecc is expensive, you get what you pay for
if you're planning on zfs or NAS or something of the sort for file server, then you'll also need to look into a pci sata card for hardware passthrough as well.

>>57960904
Well, as I'm in college and I like stuff that's smaller in general the matx case is attractive to me. Didn't think a xeon ECC DDR3 setup would be that expensive since I sometimes see -Gayming on a $40 Xeon!!!- videos pop up on youtube. If I'm just overthinking the probability that bit rot would happen I might just go for standard parts.

I was also considering an FX processor since those will probably be cheap once zen comes out; they support ecc and can overclock. They might be a viable option even if they are worse perf/watt than intel.

>>57960971
>perf/watt
this is a meme that needs to die, you're in college, doesnt dorm include electricity?
>$40 xeon
there are xeons that are that cheap but that isnt what you want to look at, you need to do some more research here
careful going with fx for ecc, while they support it motherboard support is spotty at best, and the implementation isnt nearly as uniform as intel, honestly you have no reason not to go intel, some i3s support ecc
it sounds to me that you want a gaming/everything build and also a file server. i would really push you to consider doing 2 builds, even if it is more expensive, it will save you a LOT of trouble, especially if you want to do the file server right with ecc, zfs, all that

Hello dear goys, I am planing to build new near to the budget pc and I am thinking between FX-8300 Core i5-6400. My daily pc routine is something between watching animus, writing py scripts, and some webdev. Help me choose.

>exclusive GNU/tard

>>57961044
>t. exc*

>>57961011
I'm of course not concerned about power usage, more about heat and noise caused by the hotter components. At most I play casual games a couple times a month so that's not a priority. The build would be more a general silent linux box that is used as a desktop, and I'm unsure if I'd be using ZFS or raid as I don't have a UPS. I guess if doing a JBOD setup doesn't benefit much from ECC, I'd drop that notion and just grab what I can find for cheap that offers better performance than the phenom 925 I have.

>>57961089
ditch the ecc unless you're going for zfs. a ups is good to have but not needed, ive run my freenas server with zfs for 2 years without one. JBOD does not benefit from ecc
for heat and noise, with a proper cooler and for your work load (read, light gaming and hyper 212) that's a non issue. noise is easy to manage as well.

>>57961134
Alright, thanks. I guess I'll just keep a lookout for any combos people are selling that have decent enough performance to warrant an upgrade.

>>57957336
a 4tb nas with hdd included will cost me less than 200€. a 4tb SSD will cost me over a thousand. (I am limited to 2 sata ports)

>>57961044
i5-6400, but why not i5-6500?

>>57961044
>watching animus, writing py scripts, and some webdev.
Pentium G4400 it is
not even kidding
anything above i3 6100 will be overkill.

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Requesting feedback/advice

$3k budget, build is for development. Will have multiple VMs running database servers.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MXPV2R

Do need: CPU and RAM
Don't need: crazy graphics card, monitor, optical drive, etc.
Not sure about: Motherboard choice

>>57963677
How about this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/8qHzXH
You don't need a 300 USD mobo either, invest that money into other parts, like NH-D15, EVGA P2 and maybe some better case fans.
Got you a 1060 3G, the GPU is more than enough, energy efficient and allows you multiple monitors. Also added a cheaper 128GB RAM kit.
R5 allows you to hold many hard drives, it's silent and doesn't look like gaymur cancer.
If you need monitors, get 3x Dell U2412M, they don't cost much and are excellent for work.

>>57964064
That looks pretty awesome, thank you. If you add on whatever cabling/thermals I'd need for that, I'll probably just order as-is.

Any thoughts on adding a Icy Dock SSD rack? Thinking about the MB996SP-6SB.

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Guy on Craigslist is selling this for $300 should I jump on it?

>Processor: AMD FX-8350 Black Edition Vishera 4.2GHz 8-Core Processor
>Memory: 8GB DDR3 SDRAM
>HDD: Seagate Desktop HDD ST1000DM003 1TB 64MB Cache SATA 6.0Gb/s 3.5"
>Motherboard: ASUS M5A99X EVO R2.0 AM3+ AMD 990X + SB950 SATA 6Gb/s USB 3.0 ATX AMD Motherboard with UEFI BIOS
>Operating System: Microsoft Windows 10 (build 14393), 64-bit
>Video Card: Radeon RX 470 4GB
>Keyboard: HP PS/2 Keyboard
>Mouse: E-3lue Cobra EMS109BK
>Case: Cooler Master HAF 912 - Mid Tower
>Power Supply: Raidmax 730W Model RX 730SS
>Case Fans: 5 internal case fans

I know it's AyyMD and all but this looks like a steal.

Guy's reason for selling:
>I'm selling my custom built gaming computer for only $300. I have an Xbox One now and no longer want to keep this gaming computer sitting around.
>mfw

>>57964250
I doubt you'll need much cabliing/thermals/whatever and you should have enough bays for SSDs. I think you have 3x backside plus internal cage with 3 slots or whatever.

>>57965038
Worth it what a fucking steal

Should i bother updating my Strix 1070 Bios? Supposedly it increase the stability of Micron Vram overclocks

>>57965038
Unless half of those parts are about to fail, this sounds like a good deal. Maybe swap the HDD for a non-Seagate and add an SSd for a new OS install and you should be all set for 1080p gayman.

I currently have Pi3 as media center. No NAS, so my PC has to be on. I'm happy with the Pi except that it doesn't play 10-bit anime. So instead of buying a NAS and later on updating my Pi to some NUC, I was thinking of building a HTPC with the HDD inside the media center instead.

Any downside to doing like this? The NAS was just for media anyway, not backups.

The question is which CPU and mobo should I get for this? Only for movies, tv-shows and anime, no gaming. Just get the latest i3-i5 or go with something from Apollo Lake which was supposed to HW decode 10-bit (I think?), or is it a non-issue for future proof 4k?

>>i recently started to build a pc, already got a gigabyte GA-Z170 5, a 8GB corsair, 2TBwestern digital blue and a 240 sandisk and should be getting a gtx 1060 and a I7 skylake 6700 on the mail this week, the question is can a 600w sentley hold it up? also i remember seeing a link to a power supply calculator here, any of you have one?

>>57965451
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=Power+Supply+Calculator

>>57965451
sorry for the green text, im dumb as they come

780ti for $200, worth it?

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>Video Game Console Assembly General

Should I get a 980ti or a 1070? I can get a 980ti for 320 or a 1070 for 350.

>>57967008
That's no question, get the 1070.

>>57967066
But the 980ti performs better in some games

>>57967079
In most it doesn't. The 1070 is also newer, draws lesse power, is more energy efficient, runs arguably cooler and more quiet and has 8GB RAM.

Is this a good 1070? Comes down to 350 after a 20 dollar rebate and 20 dollars off 100.
https://m.newegg.com/Product/Index?itemNumber=N82E16814133632

Damn didn't see this thread, probably more suited here.
>>57966815
Anyone?

>>57965296
Alright, I shuffled some stuff around. I'm pretty happy with this setup: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/3xZZXH

Any glaring problems?

>>57967234
>526W power consumption
>550W PSU
Idk man, you tell me.

>NH-U12S
Why did you drop the NH-D15? Makes no sense.

>3x SanDisk 960GB + 1x 950 Pro
I understand the M.2 SATA, but why 3x 960GB SSD? Also if you're going to use them extensively imho you should stick with 1-2TB 850 EVO drives.
Or simply get normal HDDs.

>GTX 1070
Thought you didn't need "insane graphic"? Unless you'll be using this card for work like CAD or whatever or playing games on it, that's total overkill.

How about this? https://pcpartpicker.com/list/TZRvD8
M.2 for OS and most important programms/data, 1TB EVO for programms and some important data and a 6TB HGST 7k6000 as data storage.
Downgraded to 1060 6GB, as i said, unless you're using your GPU for work/games, it's total overkill. NH-D15 because it's awesome and i think your CPU will emit much heat.
The PSU for well... obvious reasons. Platinum because you'll probably have the machine running day and night and 750W because 550W is not enough and PSUs have their efficiency peak around 50% load.

Just get a prebuilt, retards.

>>57967203
>generic 280W PSU

You'll want a 1050 Ti or an RX 460 that don't require an extra power connections.

>>57954569
Gigabyte
$400 and doesn't blow up

>>57956757
>m2 wifi card
It's called msata and it has nothing to do with m2

>>57962293
>2 2TB SSDs
>under $600
>The only possible hope you have to come anywhere near silent
You're the one with the dumbass requirements, you get the dumbass price

>>57967079
I have a 1070 and my buddy has a 980ti, they're pretty well matched but the 1070 clears the win in basically all games, especially at 1440p

>>57967144
And yes, the 1070 (gigabyte two fans) stays much cooler than (the founders edition) 980ti under the same loads

>>57967797
i am pretty fine with 150€ for complete silence, you fucking retard just dont understand that you don't have to put your NAS right next to your computer, but literally anywhere in your fucking house. but okay, i guess since you still live with your parents, you're limited to a single room.

>>57968080
SATA cables aren't made long
And CPU coolers that small aren't made quiet
I should've told you this from the start but there's no way you're getting a silent PC from that minuscule case without having both a pathetic CPU, pathetic gpu, and SSDs
I should've asked you at the start how the fuck you plan on getting "totally silent" out of that PC instead of just assuming you were retarded from the start
Please explain, how are you getting a silent CPU in that box? How are you gonna get 4 HDDs far away enough to my hear the spin? (like anon said, SATA has a length limit)

>>57968080
>complete silence
>>57956566
>this fucking case
>>57956597
>100% silent
Who the fuck told you this?
Give up silence with that case, unless you want ipad-tier performance
Just put it under your desk it won't be so loud

>>57968080
What CPU are you getting and what kind of passive cooler could you hope to fit in that ITX case?

>>57952294
rx 470

>>57968184
a NAS does not use a sata cable.
it's a SOC, a passively cooled low TDP cpu.

actually my totally silent pc is finished by now, it works very well.

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Post your sleeper PC setups!

Pic somewhat related

Should i bother updating my Strix 1070 Bios? Supposedly it increase the stability of Micron Vram overclocks

>>57968335
Then why are you asking? Put your nas in a seperate room and connect it like what the fuck are you even here asking then?
Also I still haven't heard of that "100% completely totally silent" CPU

>>57968434
i never asked, i said that very same thing from the start. also, its called j3160

>>57968446
Ok so you do have an iPad-tier CPU, is your cooler passive? because even low TDP stock coolers are fucking loud
And personally I assumed "my best bet" wouldn't be an NAS throttled by fucking Internet but that's just lame old me preferring old fashioned local storage, like who does that right?

>>57968335
>NAS
>celeron
Just cut it down even more and make it stream from your powerful PC, that's probably the best option here for a small, "powerful" PC, especially when you already have network-only storage

>>57968598
Also if you want it to be totally silent and still be able to do any work, this is definitely the best option
But I mean it's not much different from a cheap laptop and a NAS array

>>57968446
>>57968335
Throw a $40 SSD in there, you do NOT want network-only storage

>>57967616
Just trying to balance the costs out.

I have the three SanDisks added because I have three more at home, and with the amount of data I'm going to be storing, it makes sense.

The graphics card was a mistake. Leftover from tinkering.

I think if I backtrack a little, I can keep the big drive for backups and stay pretty close to budget.

Thanks!

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it's the holidays so i have an excuse to buy something i don't need. Convince me not to spend $400+ to throw my shit into pic related. I already have a cooler master n400. Here's what i would need.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/bCMbRG

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>>57968860
No.
Stop right there, take a step back and reevaluate your computer and market knowledge.

>>57968860
That ram is literally MORE than twice as expensive as it should be
What CPU are you using?

>>57968544
>>57968598
>>57968643
learning to read properly would save you a lot of trouble.
of course that quad core is passively cooled. its tdp is very low.
this machine was never intended to be a workstation, as i said it's meant to be an always-on-computer for torrenting and media playback/streaming to other devices.

a NAS is not throttled by your internet, it's not using your speed limit, it's in your local network. you are limited by hardware bandwidth.

i also have a ssd installed, obviously.

>>57968894
>>57968915
cheapest lga1150 itx mobo i could find for my 4690k. The noctua had some of the best thermals for coolers that fit in the 901 (130mm max), needs low profile ram which i happen to have. Forgot to remove the second stick from the list my b.

>>57969029
Well considering you're now not the same person that I was talking to, I have no advice for you

>>57969041
It's still more than twice as much as it should be, I got 16GB of DDR4 for the same price as ONE of your sticks
Ram heatsinks are removable too you know

>>57969047
what is that even supposed to mean?

>>57969029
>finally states the purpose of the PC
>says he has an SSD after arguing that he didn't need one
>still thinks NAS will saturate SATA or whatever connection he frankensteins up
Then in this case you're good to go with your fanless ipadbox, there's a reason the op says to state what you're using it for

>>57969063
yeah it's kinda steep but i figured why not just grab another stick of what i already have. Price is a bit better on the crucial site.

http://www.crucial.com/usa/en/bls8g3d1609ds1s00#productDetails

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>>57969163
>why not just grab another stick of what I already have
Because you can buy two sticks of newer ram for the same price?
I'm just trying to stop you from paying $70 for 8GB of stock-speed DDR3, that's just bonkers.
My 3000Mhz 16GB ram was literally $67, I can't say I know the current prices of ddr3 but Shirley you can find a better deal?

>>57969141
do you even know what a NAS is? you should probably watch that linustechtips video, maybe then you will understand. you dont use a NAS with SATA, you connect it to your router via ethernet and you also connect your other computers to the router via ethernet. then you are limited by the speed of your slowest ethernet hardware device, or by the HDD speed. if you have a 50mbit download connection or 500000, it does not make a difference.

i also never said i dont need an ssd. obviously i do, otherwise i'll have to boot from ethernet which does not even work with most computers.

i am pretty with my ipadbox btw, it actually plays native 4k video just fine. why would i buy anything else? wasted energy.

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>>57969249
>it plays native 4K video just fine why would I buy anything else
Micheal Phelps go away this board isn't for u

>>57969316
>Micheal Phelps
the fuck are you talking about?

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>>57969357
>Anon holds record for slowest brain in the world

>>57969218
yeah they were cheaper a year ago when i bought it for ~$30, back before ddr4 was the standard. $55 is the cheapest I've seen for low profile ddr3 and i'd rather play it safe than go with another udimm only to find out it doesn't fit even with the cooler removed.

>>57969400
instead of "speaking in riddles" you could just make a point. i do not know that person so i dont know why you call me that name.

Is low latency RAM worth it?

>>57969464
High frequency ram is more worth it

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Is this worth putting inside a PC?

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>>57969505
No it's outdated worthless plebeian technology unecessary for any PC in this millennia.
I miss my thinkpad

I have a main PC setup that runs Windows, and I have dual-monitors and all of that.

I have another desk in my room where I had my Snake tank, she was sold yesterday so now the space is open.
I thought it would be a cool idea to set up another Battle Station within the same room and make it run Linux, and maybe try and do other neat things with it.

What could be a really nice cheap build? I am thinking of going used for most PC parts to try and save money.

>>57954616
Don't go for AMD, it is not future proof at all, it can't be upgraded to anything new.
I say you should go for what this anon recommended >>57958162
It is so much fucking better.

>>57954977
Which workstations and where?

For some reason all the shops that I planned on buying from and even all the shops I didn't plan buying on slowly but surely makes all the cheap parts that I planned on buying more expensive. Why is this happening? Shouldn't new stuff keep coming out that makes the older stuff less expensive? Why is it going in reverse? What the fuck is this shit exactly?

>>57969991
Outdated hardware like DDR2-RAM rises in price because they are no longer produced and getting rarer.
also many hardware sellers change prices constantly. in germany i often see the 6500 and 6600 at the same price and 10 minutes later there is a 30€ difference.

>>57969991
Skimming the markets, you put old stuff that was previously too expensive on sale and then slowly raise the prices to see where people stop buying.

>300€ Fury went back to 330€ for a while, 150€ FX-9590 went back to 200€ in one of my favourite shops

>>57969991
What does constitute 'older stuff' for you? Haswell and Skylake processors tend to be pretty much the same price because they're pretty much the same performance, too. You won't see prices drop there for a while if Intel keeps this pattern up with Kaby Lake.

>>57970252
They used to have corsair 3000mhz ddr4 16gb rams for 87€. Now they only have them for 100€.

>>57970224
>i often see the 6500 and 6600 at the same price and 10 minutes later there is a 30€ difference

That might just be due to the shops gaming the price comparison search engines.

>>57970266
I got mine for 67 US Burgers about two months ago

>>57950353
A good i3 with overclock is nice 4 gaming and half the price . A cheaper case will do fine also. I could imagine,that 500w also suffice

>>57970384
>telling him to wait for next year's i3

>>57969905
>used parts
i would look at 2500k, maybe a non k version, or other processors from that generation. also, if you want, take a look at some of the FX processors. for the price and for a secondary build they would be fine
for gpu, you cant beat the 7970. my friend picked one up for 85 bucks on ebay with the original box and everything, the value is great, only thing is the support under linux isnt as nice as windows. You might want to look at like a old 660ti or 670, they're all pretty cheap too.
everything else, just get whatever works and is cheapest. 500w evga psu, cheap case, 8gb of whatever is cheapest for ram, 40-50 buck 1tb drive, the basics

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>>57971214
These are my current specs. Honestly I want the cheapest I could go that would be somewhat decent. It doesn't have to be particularly amazing, it's not gonna be gaming or anything of that nature.

I was thinking maybe a Phenom CPU with a AM3 motherboard or something.

Any german anon here experience with "heute-kaufen.de"?? Looks like they have a XFX RX480 GTR sale on Amazon: https://www.amazon.de/dp/B01M19E0YN/
Is this legit or will i get chinked? Because 180€ for a RX480 8G is a fucking steal.

>>57971362
well you can look at the prices and all that for those, but honestly you'll probably be better going with a pentium now that i think of it, and some cheap m-atx h series mobo. then just the cheapest ram/case you can get a hold of, a 500w psu, and then a used 660ti/670

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laptopfag here, first time build ever
how much did I fuck up?
(don't mind the case, it's made in my country, also I live in a shithole so I can't use newegg and similars without parcel forwarding)
currently using 1080p screen

>>57971436
i'd buy but i dont really have the money left for this month. fuck
likely someone entered the wrong price. still, sometimes they just think fuck it and they still send it.

>>57971525
Seems like it. 280 would fit right into the Amazon prices. Still kinda worried to get chinked.

>>57971508
Get a Z170 motherboard if you are going to use a K CPU, otherwise it can't be overclocked. That's what the K means (unclocked CPU). If you're only going to game, you only need 8 GiB of RAM.

>>57971575
hmm, you'd think amazon has decent customer protection. maybe not. it's a risk not worth taking imo.
i regulary see (by regulary i mean multiple times per week) GPUs on ebay being sold by hijacked acounts for low prices, they usually don't offer paypal.
i always buy but don't pay - waiting for others to do so and give good reviews. then every time a few hours later i get an email that it's a fake offer and that the transaction has been canceled.

>>57971471
Yea but I don't think I would even want a GPU. I would be fine with the cheapest Pentium, cheapest motherboard, 4 or 8GB of RAM.

I would like to get some used parts but older Intel motherboards are fucking impossible to find!

>>57971628
That's one of the reasons i don't use Ebay. What's also kinda fishy, this specific offer ha no reviews at all.

>>57971635
don't bother with used parts, it's usually not worth it.

get a g4400 with a nice itx board and case. they are really fast processors nowaways.

>>57971662
ebay is generally really safe for buyers, and shitty for sellers. it's safe to use as long as you always use paypal.

>>57971608
Will do. Thank you, anon.

>>57971674
What is a very cheap LGA 1151 and set of RAM? I want this to be as cheap as possible honestly.

>>57971699
i guess go to the cheapest hardware seller in your country and pick the cheapest mainboard of your form factor (whatever you want, but lets be honest, there is no reason to go above itx or matx for a secondary workstation). ram is the same, get the cheapest 4gb ddr4 stick. if you want to go itx make sure if your mainboard needs the small SO ram sticks instead.

i guess check amazon and ebay too.

>>57971720
This is as cheap as I could put it
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/PrJMM8

I wish I could make it lower, because I would still have to purchase a monitor.
I don't feel comfortable spending so much, this is just ment to fuck around with.

>>57971779
you can still get a much smaller case. if you dont care about the size maybe a full atx mainboard might be a little cheaper. not sure

>>57971810
Nope isn't much cheaper, these parts are the cheapest I could find that weren't absolute trash. I wouldn't want a machine breaking on me.

>>57971838
you shouldn't be afraid of pc hardware failing unless it's bad HDDs or PSUs. but yeah, if those are the cheapest parts, that system will work fine.
if you need more storage, set up a home network (probably easier if you run windows) to access the storage of your main computer.

going to sleep now so good luck

>>57971874
Thanks man, I'll continue my search. Have a good night.

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just uninstalled my GPU drivers after my g1 1070 was shitting the bed on games where it shouldn't. not sure where to find the best drivers for it, any idea where?

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Hope you brought your flaw finding goggles with you.

>>57972007
DELET THIS, nvidia has ALL THE DRIVERS

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>>57972145
Nah, fuck that game ready bullshit. I'm pretty positive that driver is what was causing the issues. I went ahead and found drivers associated with my card on the actual gigabyte website.

>>57972101
>I discovered the sort by price option

What's the difference between a xfx gtr and rs ? The rs is 10€ cheaper..

>>57972221
Sorry kiddo, some of us actually know what we're doing.

>>57972284
GTR Black Edition has +50 MHz core clock and is supposed to be better for Crossfire

>>57972342
They still have the same boost clock so they probably perform pretty much the same don't they?
How can a gpu be better for cf?

>>57971838
that case IS absolute trash though

>>57972393
If a card leaves the factory with a higher clock, that might indicate that it's one of their better chips and could be overclocked slightly more than the regular version. Beyond an indication of better chances at the silicon lottery, there's not much of a difference really.

It's the same with Gainward's Phoenix/Goes Like Hell/Golden Sample, they're essentially the same card but the higher quality chips get a factory overclock and might overclock further on top of that than the regular chips.

My parents want a new computer since the last one they bought was like 8 years ago and it's getting very slow.

This is what I've built so far: https://pcpartpicker.com/list/7QRKsJ

The budget is around $350, but my dad wanted a wireless adapter, so he said it's ok if I go over by like $10-$20.

Are all of these parts alright?

Here are the requirements that this computer needs
>240gb ssd
>8gb ram
>wireless adapter
>optical drive

>want to become part of the AMD master race
>Cemu doesn't work with the 480
fug

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>>57972847
Cx Power supplies only deliver full power at 30c and below. If they stick it on carept, it will be above that temperature. They're also somewhat failure prone.
The lowend EVGA units are nice.
Also, I think a skylake Pentium will give quite a bit more longevity than an athlon at the same price or even slightly less.

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/KqBLd6

What's the difference between the more expensive and the cheaper 1070s? There are like a million different fucking ones to choose from even from the same brand

>>57972539
Probably is

>>57973124

From what I gather, the only differences are the cooling solutions.
Also some cards ship with higher factory clocks, but that's it.
They will all clock the same way from the reference card to the most expensive gayming edition.
Just get something with at least two fans and you're good.
Also pray to the GPU gods that your card features Samsung memory, rather than Micron.

if I buy a 300 dollar case from a year or 2 ago, Do I have to worry about new components like say, a newer video card not fitting in it?

>>57973399
Atx and PCIE standards haven't changed in two years so i'm going to say no go ahead.

>>57973447
Thanks

>>57972985
thank you anon

had my build running for a while now and i only have one problem, ive been using the stock AMD cooler, and its fucking loud.

using a AMD FX-8320 and i am wanting something quieter.

preferably want to use something that uses the stock amd mount and i have found the Arctic Alpine 64 PLUS that seems to fit a nice budget and the mounting solution i want.

the problem is it says 100w.

can i still use it? what will be the downsides?
is there any better option for me to look at?

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Been working on this for a little while, felt pretty good on most of the picks after a lot of research, except for the mobo, any suggestions or will that one be fine?

Is small form factor dead? I've got a Prodigy M and my brother wants a sff build too, but I can't find any neat builds for reference on this whole site, when there used to be so many

>>57973807
>set a budget
>find core components that perform well within that budget
>buy a small case
>buy parts that fit within that case
What's the problem here?

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Since this psu is used, the original owner didn't include a power cable but I have a spare. It's fits perfectly but idk whether I should use the original cable or just use the spare. Used to be used for PS3.

>>57950353
>ents to make the price lower? This is will be my first time building. Also I'm from Canada so prices are higher.
>https://ca.pcpartpicker.com/list/gqbjRG
u can get rid of the modular Power also i got a i7 for 441.24

>>57974994
Make sure you update the cable's firmware so it works with a PC instead of a console.

>>57971608
>>57971508

Don't listen to the guy. Don't use just 8 GB ram even if you are just going to play games. There will come a tiem where you will want to run a game and browse the internet and listen to music and do other shit all at the same time. And 8 GB ram simply won't cut it.

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Looking for something I can fit in the backpack but also will perform as my main station at 1440p gay men

Does this look gud or am I horribly gimping myself and should just do a tower?

>>57976758
>K CPU
>B/H chipset

why

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>>57976781
Would Z170 be recommended?

>>57973705
Why not just get a 400C and save $50 bucks

>>57976810
You can't overclock without a Z chipset. If you don't want to OC, that's fine too but you could save some money by going with a non-K CPU in that case.

>>57976851
Yeah

I already bought it because it was $260 for brack fridray

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My beg/giveaway build

Some from a thrift shop for free from a nice employee.
Processor and gpu were lucky giveaway finds
Begging for the misc parts like fan card and ram

Zotac mini for my 250d build or should I go for something more conventional?

>>57977889
Zotac mini is a good card, what do you plan?

>>57977933
Was still considering full size since they barely fit in a 250d but they do seem to create a lot of heat which easily may interfere with the h100i + 6700k inside.

I could even good blower but it all looks shit. Thinking MSI frozr for decent GPU cooling. But then I noticed that the mini cards could be decent.

>>57978004
Zotac and EVGA SC 1060 are the only good mini cards.

>>57978037
All this just makes me wish decent after market blower existed

I guess if you are doing that you might as well to with mini

Is Xeon the only CPU family worth getting any more? Everything else seems like shit

>>57978275
yes

>>57978275
Only if you're autistic. Pentium is fine for "just shitposting", i3 is good for budget gaming builds, i5 is overall good, i7 if you need HT and more cores.
Xeon is good for workstations / servers but generally more expensive because of expensive mobos.

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What graphics card do you recommend to go with a Pentium dual-core E6600 CPU, /g/?

>>57978427
>Core 2 Duo E6600
That shit is ancient. RX460 or GTX1050.

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>>57978472
Are you honestly going to tell me to put a 2016 graphics card on a motherboard which supports only ddr2 ram and with a dual-core cpu?

>>57978490
Be a good goy and pay shekels.

>>57978311
>workstations / servers are autistic
might as well put this thread on /v/ then

>>57978579
>what is reading comprehension

>>57950353
no need to go all-out on ram, cpu and gpu. These three items are often growing in quality so next year, you'll feel behind. Don't cheap out on things that often don't need to be changed such as case, power supply and motherboard. You've got good items there, so just get a cpu, gpu and ram that you can comfortably afford for now if money is an issue.

>>57978598
>Is Xeon the only CPU family worth getting any more?
>Only if you're autistic.

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Thoughts? Already have a DVD drive in my old PC

>>57978614
>i can't read
This is you right now
Also, if you think Xeons are the only good CPUs right now, chances are you an autistic basement dweeb.

>>57975780
You're kidding

>>57974994
it's literally just wire with rubber around. there is no components inside. if it fits, it works.

>>57978648
PSU is shit, maybe cheaper case, cheaper SSD, maybe 6500 instead of 6400 and RX470 instead 1060 3G.

>>57978648
6500 instead of 6400
RX480 instead of 1060 (or at least get the 6gb one)
the dual is also overpriced, the strix is the best 1060, but costs less
that ssd is also overpriced, for the price you can probably get 512gb
get a bigger psu
dont buy windows 10, just pirate, there is no risk involved
get powerline instead of wifi

>>57960095
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dhYdGf
$360
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/dhYdGf
mobo has igpu o/c capabilities.
gold modular psu
o/c the igp and tighten up the rams timing at 2600mhz.

>>57960095
totally overkill, you need 4gb ram and a g4400 maximum. if you want it quiet, well it wont happen unless you go passive cooling.

>>57978832
>Biostar

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r8 my build lads

>>57979222
Private CP server / 10.

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>>57979252
Not CP, I'm running out of space and need to step up my piracy game

>>57979222
does not really get much worse, half of the components are not even compatible

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Sup /g/. I'm looking for decent mothermbord for my budget i5 "Haswell" build. Is MSI Z97-G43 any good?

https://pcpartpicker.com/list/MvqYm8

Purpose of build is to be the ultimate gaming pc

I call it the S.P.C

>>57979393
what isn't compatible?

>>57979417
>look mom i posted it again
Don't you ever get tired of your own autism?

>>57979441
the hard drives and the case. also, you are buying an outdated system for the price of a new one. just get skylake

>>57979529
The case has 10 3.5" bays

>>57979511
>actually being this autistic

>>57979625
>no u
>>>/b/

>>57979643
>still responding

Why do you even care rather or not I post it?

>>57979655
Because i care about your future, kiddo. You should be attending your classes instead of shitposting here.

>>57979676
I'm 30 the time for attending classes is long over

>>57979685
In that case you're a sorry individual.

>>57979712
Why? Because I make fun of PC gamers precious "large pixel collider"? Is it my fault that magazine is staffed by faggots?

>>57979733
The only one you make fun of is you.

>>57949852
I want to upgrade from my i5-4670. Do I get an i7-4790k or go all the way and replace the Gigabyte Z87X-UD3H and 16GB of DDR3 RAM with a Z170 MB, get DDR4 RAM and an i5-6600k/i7-6700k? The games most important to me rely heavily on single core performance.

>>57979888
there is no reason to upgrade. that cpu wont be a bottleneck in games for a few more years. your ram is fine too. just get a new gpu.

>>57979981
My FPS drops to below 20 when a lot is going on, but I require 60 FPS at all times. Not 58, not 59, 60 (or more, but it's capped at 60). I can see and hear imediately when I drop even 1 frame below 60. The game only uses 1 core and isn't affected by GPU performance at all.

>>57980074
well that's nice but the i7 4790 will not give you a single frame more than your current cpu. your bottleneck is probably software related. also, you're a fucking autist.

>>57980074
What shit tier game is this?

>>57980104
I can tell it's hard for you to believe this, but the FPS scales almost linear with GHz. There's no "your bottle neck is probably", I know what the bottleneck is. Due to how the game works I fire 12 bullets per second at 59 fps, whereas I fire 15 at 60 fps, you hear the change in cadence and notice the loss of dps.

>>57980143
A shitty old Korean MMO.

>>57980153
Play better games Jesus dude

>>57980171
T-thanks for the tip, I'll try.

>>57980171
Like what? This year's rebadged CoD or Battlefield? Or some console-tier "press F" game? Racing sims, sports games?

>>57971436
Bought it yesterday evening and got already a confirmation that its on his way.

>>57980190
It could be any game who's game play isn't dire try affected by a single FPS

>>57980205
>You can play any game you want, except the one you actually want to play
Anon please.

>>57980190
it's not like your game is any better. plus there have been many great games since the release of your mmo (which is probably like 20 years old)

>>57980221
Of course, and I have played many great games in the recent years, most of them at 60 fps on ultra settings, but I still enjoy playing this MMO with a lot of friends. It's only 12 years old btw.

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I know you get a load of these, but does anyone have a good build?
Yuropoor here, 1k budget
Mostly for vidya and chinese cartoons.
Only think I know for certain is that I would like to use a 1070 (since 1080 is too expensive)
There's no need for HDD as I have one already

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How would you guys upgrade my pc with 500 eurobucks?
For gayming mostly
Gpu is a 270x
I play on 1080p 60hz and dont really care for more

>>57980409
CPU will bottleneck everything.

>>57980500
I know and I mean upgrade the whole pc expect case,hdd,and psu.
Also I cant really decide if 4gb vram will be enough.
Like should I got rx 470 8gb or 480 4gb?

>>57980543
do you play anything above 1080p? then you need 8gb.
you need:
- mainboard
- i5 6500
- 8gb ddr4 ram
- rx480

if you want it cheap, go i3 6100 - rx470 - 4gb ram and upgrade ram later

>>57980543
B150 + i5-6500 + RX470/480 4/8GB + 8GB2133 and depending on what PSU you have EVGA 500B should do it.

>>57980566
It's called the motherboard you cunt

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>>57980283
Take it and leave. Don't tell anyone I'm spoonfeeding.

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>>57980591
I'll suck your dick senpai
Thanks

>>57980590
its ok linus calm down

>>57980589
Is 110 bucks really worth it for modo?I usually buy a 70-80 buck one.
psu is http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16817194034

>>57980719
110 bucks for B150? Is this canuck or autism bux, because it's clearly not USD.
PSU is ok.

>>57980618
If you can stretch the budget a little more you should invest in a Samsung 850 Evo instead of the ADATA SSD, which is kind of a best bang for the buck budget solution. You'll also have to remove the HDD cage to accomodate the XBOXHUEG GPU, so be prepared to find a solution to mount the HDD in a 5.25" bay. I'm using two Sharkoon 5.25" BayExtensions to mount two 3.5" HDDs and an 2.5" SSD in my spare 5.25" bays.

>>57980632
Every single listing I have ever seen called it the motherboard a main board is an ancient computer term for things like the old atari and Amiga pieces of shit

>>57980792
There's a reason I only refer to it as MB on here.

>>57980806
There is a valid reason for that caus3 typing out the word 6000 times a day would get old anyhow

>>57980827
Alright, two reasons then.

>>57980773
Actually I think I'll have to spare more regardless.
Amazon prices in pastaland are around 20bucks more per piece. and also the 1070 is 60bucks more so I'm paying €1150circa (with samsung ssd)
Given that my other attempts were shit and more expensive I'll take yours.

>>57949852
https://pcpartpicker.com/list/4RQdGf
Is my build ok?

>>57981064
>No MSI

It's good bro in fact it's really good

>>57981074
Thanks

>>57981006
Keeping your eyes open for good local deals is usually a better idea than sticking to the exact parts of a built at all cost. Especially for RAM, GPUs and PSUs.

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This is my third time building a computer. My second still works but the motherboard I got had 2 USB 2.0 ports and 4 USB 3.0 ports, and the 3.0 refused to work with 2.0, which it said it wouldn't. It's also getting kind of old and I'd like to just start fresh.

I want a Vive ready PC that can run games at full specs. My budget is $800-$1200, but seeing as my current computer still works, I'm willing to work for the rest of the PC if I can't finish it in budget.
I'd like to eventually get multiple monitors and be able to cram as much ram as I can into this thing.
Just kind of looking for opinions here, builds to consider. Make sure to let me know why you enjoy or recommend a certain build

>>57980770
eurobucks its about the same price as newegg in usd can you find it somewhere cheaper?

>>57982177
>>57980770
w8 b150 is the chipset?Though It was a specific model for msi that costed 110 my mistake