ITS OFFICIAL: RX 480 > GTX 1060

how about stop being poor and get a 1080

>>57944477
*rips open a bag of gamer fuel*

It's sad though, I love AMD driver updates but hell they lost so much potential over these 6 months.

>>57944503

Yes thats sad because Nvidia sold out 4x more 1060 than 480

>>57944320
nvidia is always going for the first impression..if they can win on day 1 its enough for them this is what is going on with gimpworks
afterall there isnt really enough room to play with pascal cards at all they are already as high as they can since they are essentially a maxwell card and nothing more
just look where gcn 1.0 cards are 7970 is 290x with improved ace engines..its the fucking same chip since 2011 and its still fucking like 2.5 generations of nvidia..

>>57944646
Great explanation
I literally cant find any reason to buy nvidia

Pajeet shillond team is full on out, fucking streetshitting amds

>>57944690
NOVIDEO GIMPFARCE™ IN FULL EFFECT

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>>57944690
DELTE TIS

>>57944690
AhahahahajHAHAHAHAHAAAA

>>57944320
See, this isn't gonna actually mean anything unless you get it out to the masses, they'll still firmly believe the 1060 is faster because it's costlier.


As for why Nvidia isn't getting any upgrades with drivers this gen, it's simply, Pascal is Maxwell on insane clock speeds, Nvidia has already optimized the caches and pipeline for Pascal long ago, therefore it hasn't got anything more to optimize besides engine specific hacks.

>people that bought the 3gb version of 1060 or a 1050ti because they didnt want to buy an amd card

kek

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Anyone know what that do in the new ayymd drivers?

>>57944724
You are also an enthusiast, you are not a normie.
Most people will buy prebuilds and most prebuilds have nvidia cards in them.

>>57946468
HDMI CEC

>>57946468
if you disable it, you will get nothing through your HDMI ports goy

>>57946489
Because it's the best™

>>57944320
I'm looking to get a new GPU, should I get a RX 480?

Either that Or I want to get a ASUS GTX 970.

>>57946577
>GTX 970
>Getting a last gen nvidia card
Are you dense?

>>57946577
Both are very similar cards, go for the one that is cheaper.

>>57946612
Alright, RX 480 it is.

>>57946504
top cec

Will the RX480 run witcher 3/fallout 4/BF1 and other demanding games at 60fps or close to when maxed?

>>57946724
nothing runs unoptimized and buggy AAA games very well when "maxed"

>>57946724
ok should I get MSI or Sapphire brand? The MSI is £20 more.

>>57946769
Only FO4 is unoptimized and buggy because, well, Bethesda it is.

I bought a gtx 1060 because i have a small case. My 1060 is at 2050 mhz so it's probaly faster than a 480

>>57945885
>>57945134
>>57944969

You retards do realize the AMD card also lost performance, in fact, it lost more compared to the NVIDIA card.

>>57947203
Present yourself in front of a speeding semi-trailer your moronic idiot it said 780 TI PERF VS 290X, it actually LOST performance vs the 290x AND 980.

Man NoVideo tards are so brain-dead that they can't even read tables anymore, no wonder they'll proudly shill for their Jew overlords.

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Fuck AMD Nvidia domination

But the 480 is like twice the price of a 200€ 1060gtx..

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I bought a Gigagabyte gtx 1060, my first Kikevidya card. What did I get? Clockspeed bug that has the memory running at a constant speed of 4Ghz if monitor is set to 144Hz, PC black screening and restarting when I attempt to wake it from sleep and GeForce botnet shit that requires log-in. Very annoying stuff that makes me wish I had bought AMD instead. Positive things: Shadowplay, Ansel in-game screenshot software, low power consumption and nice temperatures. These features are what made me buy it in the first place.
Next time buying AMD for sure, though. At least it's most likely a cheaper loss in case Nvidia turns out to be the better choice.

>>57946724
The biggest secret when it comes to GPUs is that mid range cards will run everything fine. I have a 970 and I can max near everything at 4k.

>>57947432
At glorious 20 fps, I assume.

>>57947403
where?
In Hungary they (3gb and 4gb variants) costs about the same, ~5% price difference

>>57947452
50-60fps.
Don't believe everything marketing tells you.

>>57947457
Belgium
1060 6gb starts around 200-240€, 480 starts around 380-420... Why even bother

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>>57947412
>Shadowplay
AMD got one too, and you don't need to install overbloated botnet software for it
>Ansel in-game screenshot software
works in 3 games? it's kind of nice though, true, but the fact that you need to login to sue it kills it for me
>low power consumption
only at idle, on load they are roughly the same +-7%
>nice temperatures
exactly the same if you do not buy asus or gigabyte for AMD, not that temps matter at all if it's silent and doesn't throttle

Do research for at least one month before buying anything.

>>57947569
>EU taxes

It's other way around here 480=$240 and 1060=$350+

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>>57944320
>>57944352
I like DX11 games

>>57947569
You're ether lying or then Nvidia cards are being sold without tax in Belgium because everywhere else the RX 480 and 1060 cost about the same.

>>57947569
Amazon.de ship packages for free even to my shithole, I wonder if they dont to Belgium. If you serch for it, 3gb 1060 and 4gb rx480 costs about the same (at checkout, amazon calculating with the belgian VAT rather than german).

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>>57947647
> on load they are roughly the same +-7%
Sure thing, Rajesh.

>>57947672
>Posting this one cherrypicked game over and over again
>When it's well known that the devs developed the PC version pretty much entirely for Nvidia cards and didn't even bother testing it until just before release.

>>57947693
>Peak load
>Representative of a fluctuating load
2 rupees have been deposited into your account

Well done Mr Patel!

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>>57947720
You're in denial.

>>57946577
me too but wont be untill next year

for now it probably looks like this
zen with 4+cache
xfx 480 gtr

who knows we'll see

if ayymd get back into coreboot developement will be great

>>57947709
Here's a tip, all developers are in nvidia's pockets or are at least fools to their marketing.

One of the devs I've worked with were even amd sponsored, and I top management laughing at amd for being amd and shit.An AMD dx12 trailer for them was recorded on nvidia hardware, their texture code base is all opencl and their tech people still think it needs nvidia to run on, the prerelease versions of the game only officially support nvidia drivers. Normies really have no idea about nvidia.

The game still runs better on AMD cards though.

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>>57947767
>>57947693
>posting obviously fabricated results
At least try it

These ones not from a shill site. The numbers with and without under load, in Watts.

>>57944690
nvidia cards age like milk, amd cards age like wine :^)

>>57947828
>Assuming most /g/aymers understand Turkish

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>>57944320
You can also unlock your 460 from 896 streaming processors to 1024 by flashing the bios.

Guide here: http://overclocking.guide/amd-radeon-rx-460-unlocking-1024-stream-processors/

AMD so good to us!

>>57947866

I have a bottle of AMD FineWine™ stashed away for the right moment.

>>57944690
no no no no no... this can't be happening... this can't be real... please tell me this is photoshopped. I just ordered 3 more Nvidia t-shirts so I can show my swagger during christmas... Nvidia wouldn't betray me like this...

>>57947881
All number in watts.
the colors from left to right:
> with turned off display
> without load, windows desktop
> DXVA (WQHD)
> under load (Sniper Elite 3)

These are whole system consumptions, included CPU etc.

>>57947828
>>57947922
RX480 doesn't look too horrendous here, but it's striking how much power draw jumps up from just displaying the desktop (16W) or playing video (32W??).

Getting a new card from Xmas sales. Either a 480 or a 1070. Should I still cough up a bit more for the 1070?

>>57948016
do you read?

>>57944320
>get a 290/390
>slower than the gtx 970 3.5
>wait™ months for good driver
>now better performance
>but everybody bought the gtx 970

>get a fury x
>slower than the 980ti
>wait™ months for good driver
>now better performance
>but everybody bought the 980ti

>get a rx480
>slower than the gtx 1060
>wait™ months for good driver
>now better performance
>but everybody bought the 1060

AMD LADIES AND GENTLEMANS

>>57947693
>>57947767
>>57947828

It turns out It wasn't Polaris' design that was shitty, it was GloFo's shitty 14nm process that was leaky as fuck.

GloFo's fixed their shit and now the new batch of RX480's have a TDP of 95W instead of 150.

One of the new batch of cards, the XFX GTR, cant boost to in and around 1500Mhz using 150W and staying below 70C

http://www.tweaktown.com/news/54433/amd-improved-radeon-rx-480-50-better-perf-watt/index.html

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zWASNajSdpg

A bit shit for AMD to do it in the middle of a product life cycle but better late than never I guess.

At least it means Vega won't have the same problem when its released, hopefully it and Zen can deliver.

>>57948146
amd for the win brother

I am tired of nvidia cuckoldry, I'm joining team #red

Just bought the RX 480.

Upgrading from my GTX 580, hope this is worth it.

>>57948226

Its going to be over twice as fast.

>>57948238
will it be more powerful than the GTX 970?

>>57944487
>2017
>still on 1080p

pleeeeb

>>57947977
It's pretty horrendous that the gtx 1060 uses more power with the display off...

>>57948179
W A I T™

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>>57948253

I'd say so.

>>57948265
at least 2560x1080 :^)

not sure which to get for 1080p. which is best value for money?

>470 4gb
$225
>480 4gb
$255
>480 8gb
$295 usd

>>57946724
I've got an 8GB Saphire rx480. I have The Witcher 3 maxed except for Nvidia goywerks. It keeps that keeps steady. Fallout 4 is more demanding, I think I only have that on high instead of "Ultra" and it has occasional frame rate drops.

>>57948521

The 470 is the best price vs performance card right now.

>>57948061
Please attach a soundcloud clip to respond.

I don't get stupid rivalries this that.

>>57948710
ok cool i bought the msi one

>>57944320
Honestly at this point I don't think /g/ is taking AMD seriously just because AMD's CEO is a Rajesh. Still pretty good numbers, we'll see in a few more months if there's any huge difference.

>>57948178
FinFETs do not leak like planar transistors.
The Ellesmere die used in the RX 480 only pulls 110w at its gratuitously high stock voltages.
Calling this leaky is only showing your gross ignorance of transistor characteristics.
The biggest culprit for wasting power is the 8Gbps clocked GDDR5 chips, they're pulling a nominal 40w~.

FinFETs have a static on point, they have a very definite minimum voltage needed to switch unlike planar devices which more gradually ramp up in their clock/voltage scaling. You couldn't make an Ellesmere die binned high enough to cut its power consumption in half. With voltages for all the pstates set to sane levels you can cut 15-20w off the ASIC power draw, and thats as good as it can get. The RX 480 won't display lower power consumption unless you sacrifice clocks by lowering the power target in Wattman, which is exactly what AMD is doing with their 95w embedded Polaris parts.
The cards need lower power memory. Higher density, lower power draw chips to reign in that 40w~ draw the board is currently dealing with.
The 14nm LPP process isn't "leaky" and its not even GloFo's own process. Its Samsung's, and they have 1:1 parity across all facilities with 14nm lines. They didn't fuck anything up. You just don't understand what you're trying to talk about.

>>57948265
*puts on Gunnar brand gaming glasses*

>>57949325
Meh, I was just regurgitating what I'd read in a previous thread, I'm used to years of GloFo being shit so I just instinctively believed it.

It seems they dropped power consumption by optimizing the PCB and power delivery, how exactly it seems remains a mystery.

It's in no way sacrificing clocks to do so however, see in the video I linked that the cards stock boost clock (which is slightly higher than reference) never fluctated once and power consumption never exceeded 90W.

I'm more concerned with why this couldn't have been done at product launch than I am in the die process itself.

Yeah but all other things equal, software alone is reason to go Nvidia.

>>57947647
>do research
Trust me, I did. There is no objective information about consumer technology so it made no difference. Only now after spending money on shit I know better. Thanks, nvidia shills

>>57949563
>software alone is reason to go Nvidia.
if you have a "die in a housefire caused by automatic driver updates that turn your graphics card in a spark machine" then by all means go novidia

>>57944646
It's not "fucking" nvidia, since nvidia has the performance lead by a huge margin. It's fucking what nvidia competed against it at the time of release, but that's a small surprise considering nvidia nickle and dimes you.

The bad thing for AMD is that this is a good business model. Yes AMD cards are better than nvidia equivalents from long ago as AMD has been improving the driver significantly - but the people who had those nvidia cards switch over to latest generation nvidia cards when their performance is no longer adequate and very few care that their old card performs better or worse than the competitor - the purchase decision was so long ago that they don't go around checking benchmarks anymore to validate their purchase. The validation was done before purchase if at all.

>>57949514
>by optimizing the PCB and power delivery
How generic. This is eaxactly like watching a clueless LinusCuckTips watcher spewing tech buzzwords he doesn't understand.

>>57947883
Tempted to buy one. My old computer needs a graphics card. If it didn't unlock, it'd be a really bad buy though.

>>57949751
lel, that's what the TweakTown source says.

They could have improved the inductors, caps, mosfets or even the PWM regulator, but as I said, not even the source knows what they really did to improve power delivery, but it's been proven it worked and with a 50% improvement that's huge.

But thanks for a solid contribution using buzzwords and memes friend!

>>57949896
Like TweakTown is any better than LinusDickLicks.
None of what you just regurgitated has anything to do with the manufacturing process used to produce Polaris. This is like talking about a car's external lighting system and saying how it relates to how the engine block was made.

>>57949829
this is like the 3-core phenom chips all over again

don't buy a 460 expecting this hack to work

>>57947883
Do they even sell a single Polaris 11 variant with all the CU units enabled?

>>57950006
My old computer has a 3 core chip unlocked to 4 cores as a matter of fact.

>>57944320
What about the 470?

>>57950063
It's still shit compared to the 1060 3GB

>>57949937
Point is a 150W card now uses 95W, despite muh 110W ellsemere die. And doesn't drop clocks.

I don't care how desu senpai.

>>57950072
You should, because that means you should never be an early adopter of AMD's shitty GPUs. Or never adopt them at all.

>>57950071
Rly? I thought it was only slightly worse than the 480. Which would put it around the level of the 1060 or slightly lower?

>>57950105
Lower than the 1060 3GB in all aspects

>>57948265
Dsr :^)

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Nvidiots absolutely btfo
Just Wait™ AMDBros

>>57950240
wait for what

>>57944320
>no reason
Unless you want good drivers and ability to buy through the ONLY OEM with acceptable after-purchase support and RMA service (EVGA).

>>57950379

>exploding cards

>>57948289
>1920x1080
>1080

Why do so many people fall for the 16:9 scam when 16:10 exists?

>>57950687
Because most people are poorfags and 16:10 monitors don't exist for poorfag space?

>>57950687
>>57950803

16:10 is for poorfags who think they have money. 21:9 is a real resolution.

Also: fuck all game support.

>get a EVGA gtx 970
>it crashes my computer constantly
>overheats all the time
>have to underclock CPU and turn the fans up to nearly 100 to keep my computer going

wew,

Too bad DX12 performance isn't worth shit. If you run Windows 10, you don't deserve to browse this board. Now off with you.

>>57950873
LG 25U 21:9 is about 200 bucks

>>57950873
>Also: fuck all game support.
??????????

What does that even mean?

>>57950943

Enjoy your broken HUD.

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>>57950957
I don't get it.

>>57951024
He was talking about 21:9 breaking HUDs, not 16:10 making the experience objectively better with more vertical space

>>57951095
Does it, though? I'm pretty sure most games dynamically place HUDs so 21:9 works too.

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>>57947907
Do not believe their lies, fellow nvidion™. Put on your shirt and join our side. We will envelope you in our protective bubble of ignorance and continue to laugh at the AMDpoor fabricated benchmarks from within our safe haven. It will be a cold, bitter winter with Vega approaching but my quad SLi Titan X setup will keep use warm over the coming months. They will not claim us so easily!

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>>57950886

>>57947709
>When it's well known that the devs developed the PC version pretty much entirely for Nvidia cards and didn't even bother testing it until just before release.
Interesting given it was developed for the AMD powered GCN GPUs in the PS4 and Xbox One before it ever touched Nvidia hardware (unless you count the PS3)

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>>57944320
Nvidia gpu's run better on my linux workstation. Also AMD doesn't have anything like Shadow Play. Most of my titles are dx11 (via gpu passthrough). The rx480 runs much hotter then the 1060. For my use the 1060 is perfect. I'll give AMD's Navi and Zen+ a chance.

>>57950027
For laptops in the Radeon Pro 460, it's the top configuration on the new touchbar 15" MacBook Pro

>>57947709
GTAV works better on nvidia because nvidia driver rapes CPU less. AMD desktop GPUs are trash compared to their console GPUs due to api differences. In Vulkan GTAV would perform much better on AMD hardware due to lowering the CPU overhead.

>>57951213
Relive is available with latest crimson drivers.

>>57946724
480 plays everything good except project cars and gta5 mainly because gimpworks is so blend in on this games and without any way to disable their shit that you end up having 40-50 fps even on 1080p

>>57951119
I don't have a 21:9, so I just had to take that guy at his word that it broke things. I'd imagine it usually works on modern stuff, but that's just me guessing.

>>57951227
>AMD desktop GPUs are trash compared to their console GPUs due to api differences. In Vulkan GTAV would perform much better on AMD hardware due to lowering the CPU overhead.
There may be some truth to this given PS4 version probably uses GNM and the Xbone version likely uses it's custom DirectX low-level API

It'd be great if Rockstar would add DX12 support but the game has been on PC for more than a year, I don't see it happening.

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>>57947292
posting tpu results its like posting wccft links and saying its legit

>>57951271
Rockstar is actively updating the game, so it's silly to assume it's not happening. It could happen. It might not, but the possibility is very real.

>>57951234
Like I said I loved amd but Nvidia is my go to for GPU's. I was gonna buy a sapphire Fury for $330 but I was put off by the performance compared to the 980. The 1060 and 480 are very close to 980 performance. Nvidia also has a large set of smaller benefits.

AMD needs to really get their driver interface solid on linux. They should make simple settings for gpu passthrough. They also need to lower cpu overhead.

I'm likely to replace my server mb with zen but my desktop with a 6700k and 1060 is solid.

I miss the Athlon days. Jewtel needs competition to drop prices.

so is an RX 480 an upgrade from a two year old GTX 970?

>>57951271
if you compare the profiling tools of the consoles and the pc's you gonna cry out of misery asking why the hell we havent seen those on desktop yet...
the async usage on the consoles goes up to 65%
can you imagine an async usage not 65% but lets say 30% on the desktops? it will literally make any fucking game unplayable on nvidia cards..that is one of the main reasons 90% of the ports are fucking bad because they remove every single amd optimised code put nvidia code on it and just sell it like that..

>>57951359

Not really.

>>57951308
I really hope they do, I can already max the game at 2560x1440 (FXAA + 2xMSAA) as i have a 6700k and an overclocked 1070, but there are a few places that it dips below 60 and it would be nice even if it were just a tiny improvement.

>>57951359
Yes, but not enough of one to be worth the money

>>57951359
Nope. I went from a GeForce GT240 to a MSI 1060.

Wait for Nvidia's Volta and Amd's Vega.

>>57944320
What a stupid fucking video. What's the point of benchmarking performance on video-games? All that would prove is the efficiency of the games when it comes to VRAM and such.

There are too many variables when benchmarking with games - patches, game engines, whether there's additional content, etc..

If you want to benchmark a graphics card, why not use a REAL benchmarking tool instead of going hurr durr i'm going to run cod 80 with vewy high gwaphicks.

>>57951397
>If you want to benchmark a graphics card, why not use a REAL benchmarking tool instead of going hurr durr i'm going to run cod 80 with vewy high gwaphicks.
Because people almost exclusively buy these cards for gaming you retard.

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Tbh as a Nvidia owner but a AMD fan this thread is bait.

>>57951386
>>57951368
>>57951388
what if this hypothetical 970 was failing probably due to a surge that happened a while back?
performance is around the same or slightly better?
$250 seems like a fair price for that

>>57946793
Sapphire is the best AMD vendor

>>57951375
It would actually help me massively, I do get decent frame rates but my CPU bottlenecks the game because it's only 2GHz. I can only manage like 75 FPS with no-AA at 1920x1200 on a GTX 980.

>>57951359
Depends on what platform you're running...

On Windows it's an upgrade, but not a particularly big one, while on Linux it's a bit more complicated. If you stick to whichever driver, open or closed, provides better then Nvidia's the winner, but if you want to use open source drivers then AMD wins.

Still, owning a GTX 970 and using whichever Linux driver provides the best performance I wouldn't buy a 480, bur I can understand why other people might.

>>57950131
Probably need to see rebenches on 16.12.1, average performance delta is around 6-7% since release, I believe.

>>57951423
As an 1060 owner I recommend you wait for the possible rx490 and the soon to be AMD vega release.
I'm planning a upgrade 2 years from now.

>>57951423
If you have something to fall back on while you order the new one and wait for shipping you should probably stick with the 970 until it fails (or fails to fail).

>>57951462
if you want to get as much as possible from the drivers you gonna have to buy a 480...its not really different since 2011 gcn 1.0 the basic setup is the same only the ace engines changes over time so the drivers will get as much perf as you can...
vega will be on v9..a totally new design that rumor have it it will be a hybrid superscalar/pipeline design which the drivers wont really give you much of perf for months even years..

>>57951166
saved

>>57951550
No. He has a 970. Vega or the 490 is less them 3 months off.
AMD is holding a press conference this Tuesday for god sakes. The 970 vs 480/1060 isn't worth it period.

>>57951462
this puppy isn't going to last two years

>>57951483
I've got an old HD 4850 I can dust off, but that's about it

>>57951620
i was talking about driver maturity ..

>>57951635
Can you wait 2 days? THEN WATCH THE AMD RELEASE CONFERENCE.

>>57951635
Well in that case just stick with the 970 until it fails and then see what's available then.

>>57951668
the conference is about zen not vega..

>>57951620
>The 970 vs 480/1060 isn't worth it period.
this, even under ideal conditions neither card is a significant upgrade over a 970

If Nvidia is actually willing to cannibalize the Titan X and releases a fully unlocked 1080Ti with 12GB of GDDR5X I might sell my 1070 and get one. It's either that or whatever AMD's first 16GB HBM card is.

>>57951708
No they are likely releasing a new gpu. Like a x version of the 480 or the 490.

>>57951744

There won't be a 16gb consumer card for a while though i'd expect it on their firepro (or whatever branding they are using these days).

>>57951746
they SAID already that its about zen
also no amd doesnt release a gpu without a ton of leaks being on the net.. and so far we have only ONE..one screenshot from aots and nothing more which pretty much seal it

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>rx 480
kek

>>57951763
That's a shame, GDDR5X on a 512-bit memory bus like the 290X / 390X would also be killer. I'd be fine with 16GB of that.

>>57944646
>>57944724
The shilling is real

Why SHOULDN"T I buy a 1070?

I can afford it. It's for a VR orriented build.

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>>57951776

Woah there buddy slow down.

>>57951802
If you can easily afford a 1070 you should wait till the 1080 prices drop after the 1080 ti release.

>>57951802
cause
1) nvidia will release a refresh of pascal before volta
2)amd will release vega
3) it wont last more than 2 years
4)it has only 256 memory bandwidth...

>>57944320

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=04ITA1_XoqM

>>57950071
>3gb
>2017
wew lad

I have a 660ti and a 4670k right now

should I get a 1060 or a 480?
I'm thinking about the MSI model for both

>>57953164
read the thread: you should get RX 480

>>57947464
No you can't lol
980ti doesn't do that, I have 2 of them and I still need to lower quality on tw3 for example

>>57949514
Those monitors are only showing the gpu chip draw, what you need to add is the memory power and conversion losses.

Most P10 are going to use ~150w regardless. Some 135w, some 165w, anything in between.

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>>57944320
Enjoy your damaged mother,
RX480 destroys PCIE.

>>57953362
>brown hands

>>57951771
There's two conferences, about zen is fr 3pm and I believe one including gpus will be at 1pm

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>>57944320
>Once again unironically linking to another Raja praying Indian shill loving his Pajeet overlords.

Hehe there is a reason why /g/ hates actual gameplay reviews with MSI afterburner showed on video.

>>57947412
>Shadowplay
AMD has one and it's better, and it's still a beta.

Not to mention you don't have to register to use it.

>>57951840
>4)it has only 256 memory bandwidth...
>he thinks memory bandwith really matters after maxwell

LOL

>>57954009
>This kills the shill

>>57944320
tell me again how it is acceptable that a company purposefully or out of incompetence gimps the cards to such a degree

>>57951811
>amd is better than last gen cards
wow you sure showed him

>>57950379
>EVGA
>good
jesus christ

>>57950379
the only reason they have for "acceptable" after purchase support is shit quality hardware

>>57944320
Is it any good for VR?

>>57954293
can you name literally any legitimate sources of EVGA being bad?

>>57947907
>Swaggot

>>57954426
>mysteriously only evga 10XX explode
>evga offers diy heatplastering not proper callbacks of obviously shity designed coolingsolution

>>57947883
why exactly is it gimped to begin with?

The RX480 is inferior in WoW and overwatch though

>>57954470
that´s their secret weapon against nvidia
after a couple years they bring out a driver unlocking them giving the card a performanceboost so that amd users can go and say
>see now our cards are better than nvidias lineup back when they released because amd is so good in drivers they just keep on improving performance meanwhile nvidia just stagnates

>>57954485
>WoW and overwatch
Wow it's fucking nothing.

>>57954428
>replying to painfully obvious sarcasm

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Why do you fucking gaymer babbies even need such expensive cards for?
Grow the fuck up and stop playing your useless games.

>get two GX 480s, one for my computer, one for my partner's
>mine works fine
>theirs dies a month into use
>we RMA it
>huge horrible spiky model errors when they boot up a game
>we have to RMA it again
>and pay postage every time
fuck me

>>57954595
They're two of the most played video games though. My gtx 1060 6gb mini itx non-super clocked running at 2.1ghz and a 6600k@stock gets 110-150fps in overwatch. If I bought a rx 480 my 144hz monitor would be less utilized.

>>57954650
What do you do for fun, anon?

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>>57954650
>Grow the fuck up and stop playing your useless games.

Might as well say stop reading books, watching television, listening to music, reading blogs/discussion forums, browsing dank memes.

All just different versions of escapism.

Let's face it - unless you're in the top 0.01% of rich, wealthy, successful alpha males enjoying an unending stream of fresh new pussy and elite social circles you are just biding time like the rest of us doing whatever it is that you do, so fuck off with your lecture about what we should and shouldn't be doing.

>>57954697
I always just turn down my graphics settings to minimum in games where I care about frame rate.
It gives the added bonus of using less power and keeping your card cooler too.

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>>57954734
lol whatever makes you feel better, fucking child

>>57950873
>16:10 is for poorfags who think they have money. 21:9 is a real resolution.
Nah, you're still a poorfag. 5120x2880 is the best resolution.

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>>57954797
>whatever makes you feel better, fucking child
This is like the stock response to getting BTFO.

>>57954734
>t. manbabby gaymur

>>57954834
you gave the stock response to being called a manchild gaymer faggot
I only thought it fitting

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>>57954734
>comparing books and music to video games
God damn, it's the middle of December and the summerfags are still shitting the place up

>>57954743
Nah fuck that if my $250 card can basically do 144hz 1080p there is no reason to. Plus overwatch looks amazing at the highest settings.

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>>57954903
>>57954856
>>57954931
I don't even play games that much, just always been interested in GPU wars. Call it a perverse hobby. That's beside the point though. Why would you shit on people that like video games? As if consuming film, music, or books is really any different. Perhaps those are more intellectually stimulating in the short term but ultimately who gives a shit about your intellectual opinions on anything? Nobody cares that you enjoy Cormac McCarthy lmao kys.

We're all browsing a "technology" board on a Tibetan comic book site. Unless you have fuck you billionaire money then your life is shit. Get at me.

>>57955017
>interested in gpu wars
You're the saddest fucker on this site.
Even sadder than the cunt that trolls the /fglt/ threads

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Just dusting this off

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>>57955056
Yet here you are in a GPU thread. Sad!

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Can someone tell me why the FUCK my RX 480 stays at 76-79C ?
My Wangblows™ partition doesn't do this.

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Whoa 3 months old.

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>>57955142
Dat 980Ti tho gettin BTFO.

>>57954309
That doesn't even make sense, but you are honestly the first person I've ever seen make the claim that EVGA has worse hardware than other OEMs. OEM-specific designed are usually just a gimmick anyway. But the reference design and it's fine.

>>57955167
designs*
buy*

>>57944320
RX 480 is on an architecture that's about to be outdated, AMDs new graphics architecture is not far away and very different.

Source, you ask? Just the linux kernel discussion on AMDs efforts to get a messy driver for this upcoming architecture into the kernel. Apparently it's not up to kernel standards and AMD is upset that their spaghetti code is being rejected.

>>57955228
This is interesting. Can you go into any more detail? Not surprised about AMD having spaghetti code.

>>57947569
>>57947662
Sweden,
RX480 4GB same as 1060 3GB
RX480 8GB same as 1060 6GB
varies like $10-20 depending on brand for both, but basically they these cost the same.

>>57955162
>a fucking overclocked 290x matching a 1080
wew lad, nvidias garbage

>>57954691
what kind of shit country do you live in when you have to pay postage on an RMA?

>This thread is still floating while OP got btfo in first 40 posts for posting Pajeet related shill articles that literally can't stop sucking cock of Raja.

This is why /g/ is literally worst place on Internet to ask about hardware.

AMD is also the best choice for GNU/Linux use because you don't need proprietary drivers just to play steam games and have great non-tearing free 2D and great HD performance on video!

>>57955434
Where the fuck was that? The power numbers? Literally who gives a fuck. Assuming you don't have a trash prebuilt PSU it doesn't matter.

>>57950036
Lucky you. Some of the 3x's really were binned 4x's, some were fine 4x's with a core locked. I got lucky with 1 of 2.

Oh look another inconclusive /g/ thread wtf why do I continue coming here

>>57954931
You should at least get a basic understanding about what video games are like before you make a fool out of yourself.

Online games like Overwatch improve social skills because you play in teams and try to create a good tactic to defeat your enemy team. You also have to adapt to the situation which is different every time. That's because the enemy team is also human players and they cannot be 100% correctly anticipated ever.

I bet you have zero reasoning backing up your rant.

>>57950906
>cheap product is cheap

>>57954734
>unless you're in the top 0.01% of rich
I mean shit, I can tell you are being sarcastic but on the off-chance you have to be fucking stupid if they don't have "escapism" or whatever the fuck you call that shit.

>>57948146
>tfw bought a 480 for 240$ on launch
>tfw it now performs better than 280$ 1060s
>tfw didn't have bad performance to begin with so now I just have better performance for my money anyways
gonna give it away to a friend and get the top end Vega chip when it lands but wew :^)

>1080 60hz monitor
>looking to upgrade to either 1070 or 480 on boxing day
>144hz monitor in the future.

Still undecided

>>57955392
>obviously fabricated
have fun taking the blue pill

>>57956025
what

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>>57957268
>obviously fabricated

>>57954470
Its called binning. They take chips that dont pass qc and disable the defective cores. Its been standard practice for ages now. Jesus how are people this uninformed?
Flashing the bios doesnt guarantee youll unlock those disabled units, just like theres no guarantee you can oc a power end chip to the equivalent of its higher end counterpart. They call it silicone lottery for a reason.

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>>57955790
>improve social skills
You literally have autism

>>57957224
If you don't mind turning down graphics settings, I'd save some $ and get the 480.
I've got it paired with a 1080 144hz monitor, and I can get most games to run at that fps smoothly

>>57954931
>le summerfag meemee xDddd

>>>/endyourself/

>>57955240
Some artistic redhat manchildren rejected the pull request. AMD properly contribute into the upstream since very long time but it never happened before. Sad

>>57955434
OP here. The idea behind this thread is still stands for. What do you think what's the best place to ask about hardware?

As a proud owner of a GTX1070 FE, I must say that this doesn't concern me at all.

>>57949215
>AMD's CEO is a Rajesh
But it literally isn't, AMD's CEO is Lisa Su, a chink women born in the US who worked in top positions at other big companies like ST, and has a doctorate from MIT
Radeon Technologies Group, the GPU subdivision from AMD, vice president and chief architect is Raja Koduri
He led the R300 series, the one that raped Nvidia, during the ATi days like 15 years ago
He left AMD in 2009 to work at Apple until 2013 when AMD got back brilliant people under the lead of Su, like Jim Keller and him
The guy is a legend, only /v/ newfags shitpost with muh pajeet meem

>>57950063
Almost as fast as the 480, though slower than the 480 and 1060
It's currently the best price/perf card, but you can get a 480 for like 20 bucks more
>>57950887
There's Vulkan too my edgelord friendo :^)
>>57955438
Daily reminder that Red Had cunts who wish to destroy Linux are cucking AMD out of drivers
AMDGPU-PRO will still be there though
>>57958565
>FE
why

>>57957224
Go amd unless you feel like paying 200 dollars more for freesync on top of the card price difference.

>>57946793
>>57951429

Can confirm, my Sapphire RX 480 Nitro+ runs really well and goes to 33° C in desktop use and is really quiet most of the time.

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>cucks falling for the nvidia gimp again

LMAO

WHEN WILL THEY LEARN

>>57954697
you dont fucking buy a 1060 or a 480 to play wow or overwatch.. they both give up 80-90 on overwatch and more than 100 fps on wow...
wow exists only on tpu benchmarks to boost up the average on the nvidia cards...just like the arkham knight game..

>>57955167
In the past 5-7 years theyve been great, but they cheaped out on memory and vrms on their 1070 cards and didnt even bother to put thermal pads on the memory so theyve been literally exploding.
To make matters worse they offered free thermal pads to current owners to "do it themselves."
In their defense im pretty sure they also offered to send the cards back to get them installed/get sent a card with them installed properly, but the whole thing has made the look either completely incompetent and or shady as fuck.
Its completely possible it was a fuck up on manufacturing's side and possibly a somewhat isolated thing with the heat pads, but theres no denying theyre using inferior quality memory modules to begin with, and it just goes to show even the best guys in the business fuck up too.

>>57961273
>being below 120/144 fps ever

no.

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>>57944320

>arguing what's better within a 10% margin.

You poor faggots won't realize the difference anyway.

>>57961976
the point is that nvidia offers NO updates not that 480 is faster or 1060 is faster..

>>57961998

They don't downgrade their old cards per say but they do reduce the performance of those cards once the new gen comes out. For example, GameWorks doesn't work well on the GTX 700 series because it relies heavily on tessellation, something that only Maxwell is good at. They also don't release performance improvements for last gen cards either.

Contrast that to AMD where the 7970 GHz edition, a 3 generation old card is still receiving performance improvements and is equivalent to a 280x. Ironically that card has better DX 12 support than any Nvidia card out right now so it could very well last a great deal longer. 3 GB of vRAM really helps it in modern games where the best card Nvidia had out at the time (680) only had 2 GB of vRAM.

AMD just designs it's cards to last longer. Just look at the GTX 970 vs the R9 390. The GTX 970 is good at two things, overclocking and 1080p gaming where the textures aren't too large. Games with larger textures or any resolutions above 1080p and it's no longer worth the money. As times passes the R9 390 will simply gain a larger a larger lead merely by the fact it has double the vRAM.

>>57962048
they do actually and one of the reason as to how they do it is the handcrafted cuda instructions that every generation has..typically each generation cant really execute any of the previous instructions..

>>57962048
>AMD just designs it's cards to last longer
i've realized that and that's why i'm going with AMD for my next upgrade. i can't be spending money on nvidia every year just to keep up with the dick waving scene.
i'm going to buy vega and be happy knowing the card will keep me satisfied 3 years down the line, not 6-9 months like nvidia.

Literally the only games I play are
Halo 5 (xbox, but Forge is on Pc)
Gta 5
Witcher 3
Warframe (buyplat)
soon Halo Wars 2 & Nier: Automata

Im gonna guess I should stick with Nvidia.

>>57962048
Im so new to gaming pcs.
Im used to Xbox vs Ps4 bs.
But now i find out PcMustard Race is also flinging shit at each other over AMD vs Nvidia.
There is so much trolling and disinformation I dont have the slightest clue who to trust. Nor do i have the necessary information to figure it out for myself at the moment.

/g/ - Technology is not /g/ - Graphic Cards

>>57944320
I don't know, checked prices, the RX480 was the same, or some models had even higher price tags.

Also, who the fuck cares?
The 1060 could be 10% slower, but I would still have ShadowPlay, GF Experience, PhysX, Gameworks, CUDA, CUVID, G-Sync,Lightboost, SLI (even on Linux and BSD), etc.

So fuck off.

>>57962336
Same, don't really care if AMD is faster in Shitman or Cowadoody

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>>57962411
>ShadowPlay
windows 10 has DVR functions and if you don't know how to use OBS like everyone else you're literally hopeless
>PhysX
runs like shit even on nvidia cards, why are you trying to defend this?
>GF Experience
they're looking to block all future driver updates unless you sign with your facebook or email
i-its okay when nvidia does it!
> G-Sync
freesync is more widely adopted across all monitor manufacturers and doesn't tack on a $200 price premium.
also freesync also works in windowed mode now so gsync is a complete rip off, no surprise.
>SLi
because i'm sure AMD doesn't offer something similar like crossfire, oh wait.

you're really grasping for excuses to suck nvidias dick.

>>57951270

I have a 21:9 and everything works fine, though I don't play too many older gaymans.

>>57962604
> Windows 10 DVR
First, you have to run Windows 10 for this feature.
Second, it sucks.
> PhysX
I don't know, what can I say, works for me?
Yes it causes a performance drop that is a trouble on low end cards. But the 1060 is no low end card.
> GF Experience
> future updates
I get all my updates and I am not signed in.
Am I a wizard?
> G-sync
Last I checked they had the same price tag.
> SLI
Okay, so AMD Crossfire works under BSD?
Oh wait.... it does not. Ouch. :(

> inb4 who uses linux/bsd
Check your url bar pls.

Now back to the main point I mentioned.
They cost the same. Or at least here they do.
So why would you pick AMD? Even if you dismiss ALL the features as "useless" (even though they are useful), there is no selling point for AMD, except for being faster by a few % in Vulkan. Then again. Every DX12 game implementation sucks so far, and there is only one title with Vulkan.

>>57950873
>>57951119
>>57951270
>>57962608
I also have a 21:9, I play older and newer games mixed, never experienced a problem with it. Overwatch has less vertical space because you can't increase the FOV enough, but I am not in the top 100 players so it never bothered me. (It's more than enough for Gold/Diamond play.) And all the other games work just fine.

>>57962646
> inb4 but Doom is the best year every year for the next thousand years
Sure, but the normal render can play the game on high framerates just as fine.
Vulkan does not provide better looks, more features or whatever.

> inb4 but it matters in 4K
You don't play 4K with a 480 or a 1060.

>>57962158

NO SOURCE?

GET FUCKED.

>>57962671
beyond3d is full of engineers and cuda programmers im sure they can fill you in source FUCKING BEYOND3D

>>57962646
>needing a gpu for loonix
every game i tried to play on it runs 75% worse than it does on windows. no point other than using it as a programming environment or fucking around.

>>57962721
he actually uses "but bsd can have sli" like literally bsd is actually benefiting by having an sli setup on it...

>>57946489
False. Most gamers build their own PCs, or at least get help from someone they know.

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I bought a Gtx 950 (Tfw you wish you didn't just cheap out) now I'm looking to get into vr (please no judge, I'm hoping on buying a used one that some poor dude bought and is now having buyers remorse) should I get a Gtx 1060 6gb, Radeon 480, or just wait.. I am good at waiting...

Btw, I also render logos and shit for random businesses, and an indie game Dev...

>>57962721
>>57962737
Both cost the same.
> The 1060 has a dozen more features.
> The 480 gets you 3-5% more FPS in DX12 which is well within measurement error.

So... okay, you don't want Linux/BSD support, Fast Sync, G-Sync, NVENC, Flex, GameWorks, CUDA, CUVID, Optimus, Ansel, Geforce Experience, ShadowPlay, PostWorks and so on...

But still, they cost the same. So then again, why buy the 480?
It just puzzles me, why buy the worse product for the same price?
It sounds like the dumbest purchase decision ever... ?

>>57962853
They are both too weak for proper VR.
I would say a 1070 or even a 1080 required for proper, fluid, fast performance VR gaming.

(SIDENOTE: Current VR games are 99% just gimmicks. Small, smartphone-like "experiences" with no proper graphics, assets, or anything. So the current VR games will run full resolution on the 1060 just fine. However, you don't buy a card for a month, and if really this VR fad is here to stay, studios will have to release proper VR games sooner or later.)

>>57962878
(I mean, 2160 x 1200 @ 90FPS is not something easily achieved in a modern title. You also want high / ultra settings because you see every detail.)

ayymd finally got working drivers?

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>>57962853
>tfw was considering buying a gtx 950 a few months ago because poorfag but ended up getting a 4gb RX 480 instead for $200 during black friday sales

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>>57962866
>no linux support
but im using an Rx 480 in linux anon????

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>DX12
AMD wins
>Drivers
AMD wins and releases drivers twice a month, included full fledged overclocking software
>Shadowplay
AMD wins and has a superior alternative without bloat and that doesn't require registration
>DX11
On-par with Nvidia
>Nvidia
buyers remorse

>>57962866
let us see..
amdgpu
freesync adaptive sync
why on earth amd needs nvec? amd version is faster
flex i mean ok cant find something less useless than this
gameworks LOL ok its going to die anyway
cuda yeah amd already has a hip tool to translate cuda code to opencl and c++ to benefit from their massive paraller cards..
cuvid...literally even the stupiedst person knows uvd is far better at any case presented..
optimus..lol
ansel..LOL something that devs can do giving a free camera view somehow became ansel..
geforce exp..its a shameless botnet now and nvidia dont even hide it so
shadowplay..amd literally released 2 days ago relive and its faster..
postworks..i suggest you take a look on gpuopen http://gpuopen.com/

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I switched from a 660GTX to a RX480 and it feels weird to say but AMD drivers are much better.

Nvidia doesn't have an equivalent to wattman, the whole control panel thing with amd is so much more straight forward and now there's even shadowplay equivalent included.

honestly nvidia has lost its edge, I was bottling between the 1060 and the 480 but I'm glad I went with the 480.

>>57962878
I plan on making a some what legit looking vr game, with legit graphics, with at least 2048 textures, AT LEAST.

I allready developed textures, models, normal maps, speculate maps, ect.. but the hard part is not having a vr headset to develop with.. lol.

>>57962966
>ITT: Things that only happen in head of your /g/ tier AMD fanboy.

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>still can't overclock for shit
>still runs hotter and less efficient
You're seeing these "performance" gains since launch is because your typical benchmark suite has changed to include amd sponsored titles
Ashcucks of shillgularity, Doom on Vulcan, hitman, deus ex (same engine as hitman) and bf1
Most of current 15 dx12 titles are amd sponsored. I'm surprised performance is below nvidia considering this. Maybe they're just plain fkin incompetent

Amd is trash and its not a big secret. The only reason to buy amd is cause they're cheaper. Right now i can't find any rx 480s for the stated msrp soooo

>>57963009
>I can't refute his point so I'll call him a fanboy

I've had more nvidia cards than you've ever afforded to store in your moms basement

>>57963014
This, 970 still outperforms a 390 when both are OC'd but people here still parrot that the 390 "aged better" because the stock version beats the stock 970. Now I haven't seen OC'd 1060 vs 480 comparisons, but given that a 1060 can reach nearly 2000mhz straight out of the box and how you'd have a hard time getting even 100-150 more clock from a 480 due to the inefficient power draw I doubt it would consistently maintain any lead.

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>>57963026
It truly screams how egocentric /g/ is when your beloved AMD that supposedly beats Nvidia on every corner is still dropping market share month after month.

>can't refute him

What's the point? This shit has been refuted thousands of times it didn't help one bit, we still get retarded self-proclaimed experts that overhype their poorfag products as part of post purchase rationalization while posting unrecorded benchmarks made by some Indian youtuber that probably hangs a picture of Raja Koduri on his wall while calling everyone who has problems with AMD procuts too stupid to use them. It's easier to call you a nigger, has the same effect with less effort.

>>57963049
a 480 is a sidegrade of 390x 390 is well ahead of the 970 there is no question about it at any sense
also comparing oc potential and then saying its better its stupid..
amd can reach 1500 and beat the shit out of a 2100 1060 clocks doesnt always add linear perfomance you know..

>>57963104
it kinda does though.

>>57963096
> still dropping market share month after month.
last time i checked amd is gaining for like 3q so far.. and they have a massive YoY that is almost at +19% while nvidia lost a YoY of -10%

>>57963139
give me a link that can actually prove this..
if that is true that 600 mhz difference should give nvidia a massive lead.. but instead they loose perf compared to a 1500 480

>>57963104
it's better than 390 in tessellation heavy games meaning gameworks games
other than that exactly the same, doesn't pull 300w though

>>57963155
Except no 480RX reaches 1500 unless you start touch l2c and slap an expensive water cooler on it. Try 1400 if you're lucky.

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>>57963096
>I'll post a picture of a guy laughing pretending to be intellectual and ooga booga muh nigger muh dik

>dropping marketshare
not only are you wrong you also believe that you're clever
sorry to tell you, but you're the nigger

>>57963201
there are several watercooled 480s that can reach 1500mhz its not really a big deal anymore especially after the first batch of bad chips from glofo (the newer ones have a tdp of 95w...)1475 is actually the record so far for air

>>57944320
who cares about low-end cards

>>57963245
Thanks for proving me my point I guess?

>>57963279
such an exotic way to cool your card is the watecoolant..only the elistis and the billionaires can afford it

>>57963320
Pretty much beats the point of buying 480RX which already costs as much as your 1060 if you need to slap a fucking water cooler on it. Not to mention most of those "1500 mhz" records are made in ghetto rigs like video related that wouldn't be practical in any sense of that word while still not being able to reach 1500 without crashing if you don't win the golden chip lottery.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jq47qmwcus8

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wstG14DmZVk

>>57944320
Amd new drivers are fast and I apreciate the inclusion of wattman butif your running multiple monitors its buggy as fuck. Forces memory clock to 150mhz and screens flickers like a bitch. Hope they have a hotfix soon because new drivers gave me on average an extra 15fps in arma 3.

>>57963365
you could try at least better not to sound irrelevant..
https://www.youtube.com/results?search_query=480+watercooled
there are at least 50 videos since this one that actually has achieved this..

>>57947647

My ASUS 7870 is cool as a cucumber. Constantly.

What's wrong with the recent gen cards in ASUS & Gigabyte?

>>57946793
MSI, they are near silent under almost all loads, especially considering it disables the fans in 2D work loads.

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>>57944320
IT'S OFFICIAL: OP IS A FAG

>>57963399
Nice goalpost friendo.

>>57963002
If you want to develop only the 1060 will do, since you also have to buy the VR headset / SDK and all that. And you have to pay for Unreal for example, assets, and so on.

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>>57963410
And gigabyte simply sucks.

>>57963586
My Gigabyte 1060 is cool, has almost no sound (and no sound if I'm not in a game).
The previous 7870 Gigabyte I had was a space heater with a fuckton of noise included.

Maybe Gigabyte's Windforce cooler is not that good for high TDP and shit chips?
One can always consider ASUS STRIX for example, but these "gaymang" cards cost +20-50%, and they are THICC, HEAVY, and LONG as fuck. So that's when the "but moooom I need a full tower" thing happens.

>>57963642
Had a Gigabyte 760 and it ran at 80C+.

>>57963758
Yeah I don't know, maybe they improved the design?
And I used a "ultra gaymur xXx" card for the 7870, and now I have a measly small 1060.

> but why pick Gigabyte if it was shit?
Yeah, the problem is length. I have a big case, but the 7870 barely fit in.

Now every card is longer. Even the mid-range is too long. STRIX? It's a fucking claymore.
So I had a few choices:
> Zotac
Had only 1 yr warranty.
> ASUS
Had 3 yr warranty, but NO "fan off <50C"
> Gigabyte
Had 3 yr warranty and fan off.

So I went Gigabyte.
But it really is a nice card.
If I had a full-full megatower, I would have bought the ASUS STRIX version probably.

(Though I don't think there is too much of a difference in terms of performance between them.)

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>>57950288
You'll see... Just wait a little longer...

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420%

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5%

3515
274%

1263
0%

2855
99%

741 and 73467 HD
82% VS. 18% -> +31%

>>57944320
I still have an R290 that took over after my GTX460.

I don't see the need to upgrade soon at all.

>>57963014
I lost virginity at 9

>>57963014
Thanks Captain Obvious.
It's not like Common Sense will make the sponsored posters go away though.

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NVIDIA BTFO

Smart buyers go team AMD. We all know Nvidia won the GPU war long ago. Even AdoredTV admits it. But who fucking cares. The smart buyer gets the best deal. Most people are dumb normies. Let them eat kaka.

>>57964561
>Even AdoredTV
Let me guess: YouTube filterbubble shit?

>>57954650
>Says the loli anime girl poster

1060 3GB or rx 470?

>>57954426
>>57954454
http://www.hardware.fr/articles/944-5/cartes-graphiques.html

>>57964724
this desu

>>57964744
1060 is easily stronger, and 3GB is more than enough for 1080p, or 2K (on mid-high res textures.)
Only Rainbow 6 ate like 4.2GB for me on ULTRA-ULTRA high texture resolution which had to be additionally downloaded.
And even with a RAID0 SSD I disabled it because the loading time was just too much. (And I didn't see any difference.)

All the other games run just fine with 3gb vram.
(I have 8gb, gtx880m)

>>57964826
I'm a bit worried that the 3GB wont be enough for 1080p in the future. Like 3 years from now

(I don't mind lowering stuff to medium if necessary - would like to avoid Low if possible)

>>57964849
Well, re-read my reply then.
As I mentioned, 3GB is more than enough for any 1080p gaming.
I run AfterBurner all the time and I remember that I have never seen >2-2.5 GB high usage, ever.

Overwatch eats like 1GB on ultra. (but textures do look like poop)
Titanfall 2 is around 2.1 or something.
Battlefield 1 goes to 2.1 - on mid-high IIRC.

Then again, if you have more VRAM, the game will gobble up more.
In my case they just eat as much as they can, because of the 8gb vram.
But.
- The GTX970 only had (or they said) issues, because the last 0.5gb was slower.
- I have a 780 (3GB) desktop machine and I have never experienced any vram related problems.

So I am pretty sure you are good with that amount for years to come.
(If you think about it, even current gen is sold with 3GB, so it will take developers quite some time until they can step over that.
And even the 1050 has just 4GB. But don't buy that, the 1060 is clearly superior.)

Rise of the Tomb Raider regularly goes over 5GB on my 8GB GPU. I know it's using it for cacheing but that cacheing obviously helps speed things up or it would not be used. I'd rather have the leeway for future games to be honest.

>>57964895
Ok. Thanks

>>57964993
Meh it's a few hour long movie ...cough... game.
(Remember when Shadow of Mordor was every vram argument? B-b-but mordor?!?!?!!)

>>57951433
2ghz? wtf?

>Test system
>i7 5960X
yeah no

I'm not falling for this shit.

I still have a 7950 overclocked 3GB w/ boost Paul Walker Edition and it runs games just fine with decent quality. I'm sure a 1060 3GB runs fine within reason. I'd still likely buy a 470/480 from AMD though since GCN cards simply last forever and slap Nvidia's models even a generation or newer after some time.

>>57965302
Yes, that's why AMD disabled async computing on GCN 1.0 cards including yours.

>>57944320
Yeah but only a poorfag would buy a 1060 anyways. Do they have anything that even comes close to a Titan yet?