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Why aren't you running an Amiga Workbench 3.X system, /g/?
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>>57907549

>Why aren't you running an Amiga Workbench 3.X system

leaving the linuxsphere removes a lot of access to software that no one has the time to completely port and recompile

a solution to that is running a linux content server for pulling and running content and then converting and pushing it to a non-Linux client OS
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>>57907620
Amiga OS3 came with the Amiga 1200 circa 1990.
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>>57907620
>leaving the linuxsphere removes a lot of access to software
FreeBSD has a linux layer, with few exceptions, anything that runs on linux runs on freebsd
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>>57907755

since FreeBSD is functionally identical to early Linux, what are the benefits of using it over Linux; is the source code cleaner? are processes easier to micromanage?

>with few exceptions
like?
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>>57907918
Better GPU performance
Faster boot times
More efficient (Unix philosophy)
Things in BSD are just better than Linux. Every program does its job and it does its job well. There is basically zero bloat, unlike Linux which loads a fuckton of unnecessary "features" with every aspect of the operating system. They reinvent the wheel a million times, and there is about 100 programs that can all complete the same function, when the Unix way is to just have 1 program do that, and have the other programs use that program for completing said operation.

What you're lacking with FreeBSD is a lot of application support. Linux has all sorts of fancy programs, some of which are good, but they can't be easily ported to FreeBSD. If you use your computer for browsing 4chan, programming, office, and/or GPGPU operations (video rendering, 3d modeling, ect)

I have heard of some people getting steam to run on it, in which case the performance was increase 10 times that of Linux, and 8.5 times Win.
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>>57908071
>I have heard of some people getting steam to run on it, in which case the performance was increase 10 times that of Linux, and 8.5 times Win.
>performance was increase 10 times that of Linux, and 8.5 times Win.

[citation needed]
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>>57907620
It has a *NIX compatibility layer at kernel level
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>>57908071
Windows is straight up the best for GPU performance. It's a fact. Specially for games.
No other shit OS has gotten as much development in it than Windows.
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>>57908071
>I have heard of some people getting steam to run on it, in which case the performance was increase 10 times that of Linux, and 8.5 times Win.
kek
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>>57908071
>I have heard of some people getting steam to run on it, in which case the performance was increase 10 times that of Linux, and 8.5 times Win.

Stop pulling numbers out of your ass.
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BSD is garbage. Please stop spamming /g/ with your bullshit.
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>>57908643
huh, isn't the thread about the opposite of BSD?
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neat
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>>57907549
>Non-BSD/Unix OSes
you mean like... windows?
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>>57908341
gorgeous
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>>57908341
Compile screenfetch and post
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>>57909943
Not my picture.
But there was a thread where someone already did, screenfetch isn't a binary, it's a script, you don't need unix compatibility for it.
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>>57908848
It's just so bright though
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>>57907549
>basement fag os

not using comfy windows 7/10.

kys
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>>57910411
I'm pretty sure nobody is talking about main driver use
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>>57907549
AmigaOS looks like shit
>those fuckhuge icons
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>>57910490
>boo hoo, I don't know how to change icons
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>>57910521

Really love some of the MagicWB icons, especially for the hard disks
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>>57910521
Those look even worse
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>>57911465
>boo hoo, I don't know how to change icons
supports PNG and transparency with effects, go fuck yourself
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>>57907549
Where were you when the Amiga was kill? Asleep under a huge rock, I guess.
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>>57911912
>Amiga was kill
tell that to the faggots actively developing hardware and software for it
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>>57910490
>Anon, why did you buy this sucky drill?
>It looks nicer than the good one.

Are you a woman?
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>>57912243
The Amiga was 68k-based. That architecture is no more. The new "Amiga hardware" you are talking about uses a PowerPC CPU and outdated PC hardware which is being sold for Apple-tier (or even above) prices to nostalgiacucks.
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>>57912625
Most people never used that. Things like the Indivision AGA or the Vampire 2 are more popular than MorphOS or Amiga OS 4.*

But really most just guy an IDE to Flash adapter to replace the HDD and leave it at that.
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>>57908472
it makes sense though look at the ps3 which is freebsd only constrained by hardware
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>>57912625
>The new "Amiga hardware" you are talking about uses a PowerPC CPU and outdated PC hardware which is being sold for Apple-tier (or even above) prices to nostalgiacucks.
Never heard someone actually using that shit, but yeah >>57912703 Vampire is quite popular
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>>57912625
>That architecture is no more.
http://www.apollo-core.com/
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My system's literally called Linux Is Not Unix, therefore I run a Non-BSD/Unix OS
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>>57907755
>>57907918
No, they are both UNIX like

>>57913444
Yeah, Linux is not UNIX certificated because of it's licensing nature, still UNIX like.
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>>57913444
It's not.
You're thinking of GNU not Linux.
And GNU is a Unix clone, it's just not UNIX(TM).

Stallman also had the idea to put more LISP shit in it but nothing ever came out of that.
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>>57913864
Isn't it because Linux can't be UNIX certificated because it's open nature?
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>>57913882
UNIX(TM) certs are just useless marketing gimmicks you have to pay for.
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>>57907549
macOS is still better
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>>57908341
fuuuck, 33MHz and this kicking
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>>57912969
What the actual fuck.
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>>57912744
The API on PS3 let you program closer to metal than any desktop os.
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>>57913904
At least someone checked what is open group.
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>>57912469
The core of that shitty counter-anecdote relies on an assumption you pulled out of your ass from nothing.
Anyway,
>Anon, why did you buy this shitty hand-crank drill with nothing but three security bits?
>One of them is used for something that gets me a lot of upvotes from other hipsters on r/retrobattlestations when I mention it and I can use two at the same time sometimes if I buy an aftermarket motor!
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>>57911569
Nah, the rest of it will still look like trash and I could just use something that isn't lukewarm 20 year old garbage at that point.
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>>57912969
>http://www.apollo-core.com/
>68080

Wow, what. Everyone was expecting a 68080 back in the 90s but it never came. Interesting, thanks for the link.
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amiga...looks like shit? are you cracked?
pic related.
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>>57918560
>"pic related."
>tfw no pic

Looks... not at all, lol.
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amiga screenshot. does not look like 'shit'

unix tards btfo.
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>>57912969
I don't believe them, or that PPC chip must have been just absolute fucking trash
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>>57918581
This is post-Amiga ("AmigaOS" 4.x, AROS, or somesuch).
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>>57907549

Aren't you afraid that you might get too much pussy :-O ?
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>>57918581
>amiga screenshot. does not look like 'shit'
>that fucking calendar, literal faggot membar and shitty icon set
Are you shitting me? It looks like a deviantart GNOME 2 theme made by a 15 year old XP migrant in 2005.
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>>57918598

Not it isn't you cuck.

It's OS3.9 with some extensions.

Still would look the same on 3.1/3.0, but I like that there are some optimizations in 3.9.
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>>57918671
>gradientwash/skeumorphize the shit out of the interface
>still keep oldschool 2.5D buttons/controls
it's like those luddites who try to make xfce look like windows 95 and fail horribly but somehow even worse because these guys weren't even trying in the first place
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bsd shills are the cancer killing /g/.
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>>57907549
Because although it was a wonderful OS for its time, it lacks many of the most basic features I require today, and I don't have time nor inclination to install and configure various 3rd party software to make up for it.

Furthermore, it doesn't run natively on modern hardware, and the software I want to use doesn't run on it.
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>>57918718
>luddites

There's that word again...
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I've been binging on a lot of Amiga nostalgia lately : the bedrooms to billions documentary, Kim Justice and Nostalgia Nerd's retrospective videos, the "Future Was Here" book.

I'll never love a piece of technology like I loved the Amiga, and it just makes me depressed how the Amiga just drifted from one fuckup to another in the hands of greedy incompetents.

In my heart I know that Commodore would probably not have survived into the 21st Century no matter how well they did, but the Amiga deserved better. It changed from owner to owner who had no idea what to do with it. The OS was pulled in different directions by petty bickering when there should have been a united effort to promote and rejuvinate it. At the very least it should have been open sourced. It just makes me depressed that it's just going to become a footnote in history. I try to take some heart that there is still an Amiga scene, but it's mainly just nostalgia for the good old days, the new development being done just seems a waste of time, making stuff for a now obscure and mostly irrelevant ecosystem.
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>>57907549
will amiga workbench 3.x even run on a x86_64 PC??

if not then STFU because i am not going to spend hundreds of bucks on old hardware to run some retro mid-1990's operating system
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>>57919268
AROS will run natively, it's a mostly complete implementation of OS 3.1. obviously binaries have to be compiled for x86.
Alternatively you can run it in an emulator with JIT to make it ridiculously faster than any old Amiga hardware
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>>57907549
so i am supposed to spend thousands of bucks to run this retro mid-1990's shit? naw, make an x86_64 bit OS for my PC hardware or GTFO & STFU!!!
http://amigaonthelake.com/
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>>57919268
>hundreds
some amiga fanboys will literally pay thousands to not let go of the past
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>>57907549
no thanks, i only like pretty operating systems
its pronounced GahNew/Leenux
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>>57919434
wallpaper please
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>>57907918
It is not
>functionally identical to early Linux
FreeBSD (and any *BSD) development has been ongoing for longer than Linux.

FreeBSD has lots of superiority over most Linux distro's:
- Superior filesystem, ZFS
- Secure container / sandboxing, jails
- Better bootloader that has integrity/security checks, works with encrypted disks and boot environments. (beadm)
- Has a superior network stack (Both NASA and Netflix have extensive blogs about why they use FreeBSD for high load networking)


FreeBSD is 1 large project, it's not a couple guys creating a "distro", pulling together other peoples work.
A *BSD system is a more complete integrated system, this offers new possibilities and some great features.
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Why are you unix faggots shitting up this thread. stay in your FGLT/BSD containment.
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>>57919546
projecting this hard
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>>57919342
>X1000
>not even the X5000

kek
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>>57913822
>Linux is not UNIX certificated because of it's licensing nature
No it's because it doesn't comply with POSIX.
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>>57918581
Ugliest font rendering I've seen in a long time. Congrats.
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>>57918832
Actually it's the Windows shills, the Droid shills, the Intel shills, and the GPU shills who are killing /g/.

They are all working together to ruin all non-marketing shill threads with irrelevant garbage posts like the one you just made.
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>>57919342
It looks suspiciously similar to Fractal's Define cases
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>>57920041
No, Linux's syscalls are compliant

But the userland isn't fully compliant by default in most distros because there's little reason for it.
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>>57919469
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>>57920097
>non-marketing shill
wtf kek
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>>57907549
Because I'm running Haiku
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>>57919653
It's not projecting, it's the truth.

FreeBSD > Linux in every single way.
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>>57920161
>Linux's syscalls are compliant
That share of the POSIX ones they've bothered to implement, at one time or another...
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>>57908872
NT is Unix with Windows API.
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>>57920065
It's a 3rd party hack for a 25 year old OS
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>>57920173
thanks
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>>57913882
Yeah, but isn't because the Open Group is opposed to free software, it's because a bunch of logistical difficulties to get Linux certified.
You can't certify the kernel alone.
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>>57920217
It must be sad to being the best and still ignored as shit.
:^)
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>>57920279
>to being the best
pajeet plz, when you fuck up your English it hurts the entire shill game
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>>57920286
Is it hurt your autismo?
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>>57920235
not even, where the fuck did you get that idea from?

it's more like a very loose development of VMS with some Unix features that were also featured in pretty much any other workstation/server platform at the time
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>>57920217
don't bother replying to that fag

he always does this, you can usually notice him by how he uses the word "projecting" badly
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>>57907918

No systemd.
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>>57918581

Is that jet audio? It looks like jet audio.
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>>57919035
I wouldn't be depressed about it, if it had survived you would probably be thinking of it differently as just another plain old big-name platform with its own strengths and shortcomings like everything else, or maybe not, who knows.

Sucks that it turned out the way it did though, and that they made so many little mistakes that added up. It definitely could have had potential, but they targeted the wrong market and brought out the wrong features at the wrong time.

At least you can still enjoy it as it is while it's still plentiful and cheap, depending on where you live.
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>>57919434
AntiX is underrated, this is coming from a Funtoofag.
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What is FreeBSD's philosophy on spying?

I hear they are really interested in helping companies and whatnot, so I'm not sure how willing they are to throw the bird to a company that wants to put spyware on my machine.

I'm not really looking for a "they're against it" either. I want to know that the developers personally would say "absolutely fucking not under any circumstances, you can go fuck yourself" right to some CEO's face for even suggesting it
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>>57908341
Look at Mr. Moneybags over here with the FPU.
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>>57923236
The true answer to your question is "every man has his price"
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>>57923454
So where am I less likely to wind up with spyware? Linux or FreeBSD? (specifically gentoo linux)
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>>57923495
Off the grid
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>>57914234
It's also a certified Unix
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>>57918593
Why? This is over 15 years of progress.
Get one and try if you don't believe it.
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>>57918581
>>57918671
What are you using it on?
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>>57919342
Nobody in the actual Amiga community has one of these, see >>57912703
Your bait isn't working
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>>57920065
I'm a linux shill usually but I think it looks great, probably better on the screen
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>>57912969
why is so much of this shit for the 600

i thought no one ever bought that one
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>>57923817
Its using the same font engine as linux lol. (freetype)
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>>57924052
But they are making it for all the Amigas
I guess they just started with the 600 because it has the least amount of expansions on the market and it's the smallest
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screen of os 3.9
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>>57924102
why do people have to ruin everything with transparency and shit? the original theme looks way better high-res
ricers are the worst
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GNU is Not Unix
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>>57907549
I don't have an Amiga.
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>>57924413
>1985+31
>he still doesn't have an Amiga
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>>57924456
I'd totally buy a new Amiga pizza box with a modernized Workbench, but I don't see the point in buying an old one.
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>>57924480
Modern one will just be a shitty box like a PC
Better something with a Vampire, actual Amiga hardware and software
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>>57908071
>I have heard of some people getting steam to run on it, in which case the performance was increase 10 times that of Linux, and 8.5 times Win.
Cite your shit fuckwit.
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>>57924490
>Modern one will just be a shitty box like a PC
Why would it have to be?
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>>57924522
Because most of those new projects seem to be >>57919342
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there is no point of any other OS besides windows. it does

1) everything other OS's can
2) does it better and
3) does stuff they can't

/thread
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>>57924532
That's a shame, it could be better.
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>>57924557
Yeah, I do like the idea of the Vampire, 100% hardware compatibility with the old shit plus adding a lot of new instructions, people making new libraries and programs that run on it
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>>57924538
>1) everything other OS's can
wrong. other OS's work.
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>>57924638
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>>57908341

Does AmigaAMP whip the llama's ass?
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>>57926332
kek
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>>57918410
Kek, muh rice
Seriously, kill yourself, productivity over eye candy
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>>57926352
>muh productivity
With those low resolutions, fuckhuge window decorations, retarded dock taking up half the screen and that distractingly busy icon spam, it isn't "productive" either, quit deluding yourself. You only like it because it's old and hip and reminds you of your childhood you'll never get back, if someone came out with that half-assed shit today you'd be shitting on it with everyone else who has a brain that isn't addled by nostalgia for something they never used for anything beyond children's games.

Besides, treating function and form like they're mutually exclusive is one of the dumbest things /g/ does and I wish it would stop, something isn't good by virtue of looking like shit any more than the opposite applies. If you lose your shit over some gradients or flat icon sets you're not "productive", you're a dumb bikeshedding faggot just as hung up on stupid bullshit as the strawmen you preach about.
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>>57907549
>non BSD UNIX
>zero (0) drivers
Just fucking use FreeBSD
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>>57926588
>With those low resolutions, fuckhuge window decorations, retarded dock taking up half the screen and that distractingly busy icon spam, it isn't "productive" either, quit deluding yourself.
Exactly, look at >>57907549, it's perfect, we don't need those fuckhuge shit and candy like >>57924102
Specially for those low resolutions

Also the dock, it's not in the way, it's not "on-top", it's a background application that does not get in the way, like >>57910521, you don't know how fullscreen Amiga multitasking works I think.

>If you lose your shit over some gradients or flat icon sets
Yes, sperging out over icons is even more autistic


Nothing to do with my childhood or old shit is hip though, I just recently started exploring alternative OSes. Never used it in my childhood.
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>>57907549
You forgot Joylent's SmartOS based on Solaris.

It's probably one of the best systems going right now, has all the kernel protections and quality code of OpenBSD with KVM so you can run virtual machines. Even includes DTrace https://www.joyent.com/smartos

Absolute great system, too bad it's wholly proprietary
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>>57926588
you seem to never had to actually use them back in the day, they where made for low resolutions, perfectly productive environments though
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>>57907549
It's not about which operating system you use. It's about what you DO with said operating system.

You can install one hundred different OSes and distros and it won't make a damn bit of difference if all you do is sit there and stare at nothing and create nothing all day.
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>>57926648
>we don't need those fuckhuge shit and candy
Indeed, so why are you still defending it? AmigaOS a la OP's screenshot was easily the gaudiest, eye-candiest big-name platform on the desktop.

>Also the dock, it's not in the way, it's not "on-top", it's a background application that does not get in the way
Neither does an archfag's retarded conky spam but that doesn't make it any less of an ugly, distracting and cluttered waste of space.

>Yes, sperging out over icons is even more autistic
If you're going to jerk off to something on 4chan, people are going to tell you why the thing you're jerking off to is shit. It's not rocket science, fuck off to r/retrobattlestations if you just want le wrong generation to keep you hard between strokes.

>Nothing to do with my childhood or old shit is hip though, I just recently started exploring alternative OSes. Never used it in my childhood.
Ah, so you didn't even use it at all, then? I rest my case.

>>57926678
Everything was "made" for low resolutions back then, it doesn't mean shit.
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>>57927141
>AmigaOS a la OP's screenshot was easily the gaudiest, eye-candiest big-name platform on the desktop.
4 or 16 color limited 640x480? Fuck that, even System 7 was out by then. Workbench was basic as fuck.

>Ah, so you didn't even use it at all, then? I rest my case.
I have been experimenting with it for the past years. But no nostalgic feelings.

Like anon >>57926678 said, it was perfect for muh productivity back then, nobody gave a fuck about eyecandy
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>>57927310
>Fuck that, even System 7 was out by then.
Pretty much all System 7 gave you was some optional barely noticeable window colors and desktop patterns.

And let's not even get started on the absolute visual abomination that was Windows 3.1/NT 3.1. Neither of them looked nearly as "ricy" as AmigaOS by a longshot, and the screenshots presented ITT are definitely not 640x480x16.

> it was perfect for muh productivity back then
It was all there was, so of course people lived with it. But don't act like they missed it when it was gone.

>nobody gave a fuck about eyecandy
Stop this shit, half of the Amiga's niche was eyecandy. Nobody with a brain bought those things as spreadsheet boxes.
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>>57927383
>Neither of them looked nearly as "ricy" as AmigaOS by a longshot, and the screenshots presented ITT are definitely not 640x480x16.
Because they are running on emulators you dipshit. Doesn't take a genius too see it isn't running on hardware from 1992.

>It was all there was, so of course people lived with it. But don't act like they missed it when it was gone.
I still use the most basic window decorations, icons and themes. Exactly like OP's image, single colour and simple click boxes.

>Stop this shit, half of the Amiga's niche was eyecandy.
Yeah, same like those faggots in linux desktop rice threads.
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>Pretty much all System 7 gave you was some optional barely noticeable window colors and desktop patterns.
dunno if bait or real retarded
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>>57927408
>Because they are running on emulators you dipshit. Doesn't take a genius too see it isn't running on hardware from 1992.
And what the fuck do you think they're emulating, retard? That shit wasn't out of reach in 1992.

>I still use the most basic window decorations, icons and themes. Exactly like OP's image, single colour and simple click boxes.
>Yeah, same like those faggots in linux desktop rice threads.
I don't really know what either of these are supposed to communicate, but okay.

>>57927428
>(C)2000
>a fucking x86 port
>and still all it's got is a simple tiling graphic and platinum icons that didn't even exist until long after the Amiga was dead and buried
What kind of transcendent cherrypicking is this?
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>>57927488
>That shit wasn't out of reach in 1992.
you didn't have workbench with more than 16 colors or higher res then 640x480 back then *cough*retard*cough*

>I don't really know what either of these are supposed to communicate, but okay.
I'd say you're just being retarded now, saying that nobody uses minimalistic UIs anymore or that people who don't rice exist
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>>57927488
>What kind of transcendent cherrypicking is this?
is this better? still ruins your point
but you could have a wallpaper and high resolutions on mac IIs that came out in the turn of 1990
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>>57927581
Macs were vastly more expensive than Amiga 2000s or 3000s in 1990. And monitors with higher res than 640x480 were outrageously expensive
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>>57907549
Because that's fucking disgusting. Looks like windows 3.1 which was a giant turd
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>>57927914
yeah, but hes point is still invalid
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>>57927995
I'm not actually sure what anyone's point is at this stage. MacOS and AmigaOS were both perfectly fine looking in their day - neither were designed with high resolutions or more than a handful of colours in mind. Both of them could be enhanced with 3rd party hacks and extensions.
However the AmigaOS was far and away the best under the hood, and the hardware was a fraction of the price. No contest there.
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>>57928439
Agree, it was awesome for it's time.
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>>57910521
Very nice.
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Pretty shit the reality is we have the worst of all worlds
>Windows
Malware ridden shit with an atrocious panjeet UI
>Mac
Management no longer gives a shit about actual computers so the hardware it runs on is overpriced trash performance wise and more locked down every release
>Linux
Xfucking11 and everything still just feels like a front end to a terminal not a coherent OS

Workbench, RISCOS and BeOS are so nice next to all this crap.
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>>57929151
amen
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>>57929151
>feels like a front end to a terminal not a coherent OS
I have no problems with that.
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>>57929151
RISC OS is still pretty cool. When you use it and see how fast it is on even the Pi 1 then it really puts a lot of other developers to shame.

Granted it's because a lot of it was written in assembly for 25 year old hardware, but it just shows how important true scalability is.

If they could port AbiWord and GNUmeric I'd probably set it up as a work machine.

Fine, it doesn't look pretty, but I don't care. It's a computer not a fashion accessory.
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>>57929205
Yeah couldn't believe how fast it was on the Pi 1 compared to Raspbian (near unusable in GUI mode)

I'm an oldfag so had to use it in school actually, I think it looks pretty great.
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>>57929205
RISC OS was pretty impressive back in the day, but rather cryptic and not the most friendly to use. We had an Acorn Archimedes at school and none of us could fathom how to use it properly. You had to use all 3 mouse buttons for various things and the GUI had weird seemingly arbitrary conventions like dragging icons around to load and save stuff.
Technically impressive though, I think it was the first OS I saw with antialiased fonts and windows that could be resized and dragged around smoothly without hiding their contents
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>>57929205
Find out if Emacs works.
It has Speadsheets in org-mode,
and LaTeX-Support.
You could work with that.
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>>57929289
>the GUI had weird seemingly arbitrary conventions like dragging icons around to load and save stuff.

That would probably, weirdly enough, work quite well on a touch interface.
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>>57907549
b-but I am, Vampire 2 with OS 3.9 on my comfy A600
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>>57920065
still better than windows, shit looks like fuckin minecraft
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fucking hipsters
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>>57930732
explain?
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>>57908848
>the one thing i've always hated about my computer is that it's almost too useful
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>>57929258
Damn, I wish I could run RISC OS on a modern ARM laptop.
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>>57908071
>>Faster boot times
Ok kid.
systemd-analyze && systemd-analyze blame
Startup finished in 1.471s (kernel) + 1.677s (userspace) = 3.149s
9.245s netctl@wls1\x2dWLAN_HMS.service
808ms dev-sda2.device
422ms tlp.service
398ms systemd-journald.service
275ms swapfile.swap
174ms systemd-vconsole-setup.service
165ms upower.service
145ms systemd-udev-trigger.service
139ms systemd-user-sessions.service
133ms avahi-daemon.service
133ms systemd-logind.service
132ms alsa-restore.service
130ms windows.mount
91ms systemd-rfkill.service
69ms systemd-udevd.service
58ms systemd-binfmt.service
53ms polkit.service
38ms systemd-sysctl.service
36ms [email protected]
35ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup-dev.service
26ms systemd-tmpfiles-clean.service
22ms dev-mqueue.mount
22ms systemd-remount-fs.service
20ms proc-sys-fs-binfmt_misc.mount
20ms systemd-random-seed.service
17ms systemd-update-utmp.service
16ms dev-hugepages.mount
15ms kmod-static-nodes.service
13ms sys-kernel-debug.mount
12ms sys-kernel-config.mount
12ms systemd-modules-load.service
12ms systemd-tmpfiles-setup.service
11ms systemd-backlight@backlight:acpi_video0.service
10ms systemd-journal-flush.service
6ms sys-fs-fuse-connections.mount
6ms rtkit-daemon.service
5ms tmp.mount
4ms systemd-backlight@backlight:intel_backlight.service
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>>57927551
>you didn't have workbench with more than 16 colors or higher res then 640x480 back then *cough*retard*cough*
Even the 1200 could handle 256 at that resolution, but you're probably still right because apparently they're such pieces of shit they're unusable in those modes.

>I'd say you're just being retarded now, saying that nobody uses minimalistic UIs anymore or that people who don't rice exist
The fact that hipsters exist in 2016 has nothing to do with whether or not the Workbench UI looks like ass.

>>57927581
>is this better? still ruins your point
How does it again? Because there's a little more color? The interface isn't dominated by huge icons, massive scrollbars, ugly window decorations and that shitty font. I don't think my point is ruined at all.

>but you could have a wallpaper and high resolutions on mac IIs that came out in the turn of 1990
Couldn't have a wallpaper without third-party utilities, but otherwise, of course. They were six-figure systems with near-workstation-class hardware marketed at users who usually needed high resolutions, though the majority of them shipped with 640x480 displays, and they could utilize them a lot better than that shitty garbage.

And shit, if you're going to roll the clock back to 1990, System 6 kills half of your straw grasping counterpoints.
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>>57907620
>leaving the linuxsphere removes a lot of access to software that no one has the time to completely port and recompile
All this
>implying
Face it! The Gnoopix-sphere forks software that someone else already does better. Open Orifice instead of Windows Office, PIMP instead of Photoshop and so on...

Because creating software that would be useful, yet still has no commercial market is beyond their GBP-based economy...
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>>57907549
>Non-BSD/Unix OSes
Oh, i use windows.
:^)
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