itt reasons you havnt gone 100% linux

Microsoft Word, because LibreOffice's compatibly with it is fucked.

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>>57874619
>140x37
Another reason you haven't switched yet

windows 7 is flawless.

>>57874619
League of legends

>>57874619
Games and programs which i can only get on windows for my job.

Lazy, and lacking a USB hard drive. All my shit is on Windows, and I've only backed up the vital/irreplaceable, meaning I'd have to redownload and resort roughly 180GB of shit in order to format my SSD. Plus gaymen, though most of what I play is Wine-ready, but it's easier to just launch Steam and go. Last thing is NVIDIA GeForce Experience and Gamestream. I throw my laptop into winshit mode, grab my Bluetooth gamepad, and go soak in the tub for 2 hours while I enjoy some Dank Souls or throw down over netplay in old SNES fighters. Shit's comfy. There are other ways to stream your PC to your phone, but Moonlight works over LTE with no issues, and is always fast and stable as fuck.

Photoshop or a half decent alternative.

Krita is close, but its filters and text tools are clumsy and clearly meant for digital painting

>>57874906
Krita is pretty much only meant as a painting program, yeah.
I think its getting support for animating too, but its not meant as a general image manipulation tool

still need windows 7 for games and work

Linux on the desktop is a high-maintenance joke. That's the main reason.

>>57875126
It's easier to use and update than Windows 10 is, what are you talking about?

Revit, autocad, AI/Corel, Photoshop

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>>57875126
>high-maintenance

I do WAY less maintenance on Xubuntu than Windows. You're talking out of your ass on this one.

>>57875126
>neo-/g/ in summed up

>>57875126
>has never used Linux

>>57874619
Back in 1999, I got a copy of red hat from my school and had no idea what I was doing. Granted the internet didn't have wiki's or any real n00bie guides back then but I think I'm just too stupid.

>>57874619
OneNote
Excel
Photoshop CC
Edge
Discord

Ok if u want to know im Windows user and also i installed ubuntu on my Virtual Box to start learn it.

First of all
-I find it hard to do things like change resolution with simple button i know find it on youtube or google what ever i do it it works but why the fuck should i open some terminal and write things into it ?

-*oh you are lazy fuck and you dont wanna do anything ...

Well honey its 2016 and peoples dont give a shit about anything the consumer want to use it as simple as its possible if this is not in distro for total noobs then im not even ask if this is in any other.

Second i like downloading from repositories its fun but of comon user ? You gotta be fuckin kidding me right ? Peoples who dont know open their fcking mail and somebody wants from them type somthing like "sudo apt-get install skype" You wot mate ?

Linux is just too hard for peoples who like to go fast on net, switch some shit or just play games on thier computers... I take it its free its open but its not for common users if Linux will never be able simple tasks like change resolution on few buttons then nobody will even care about it for next 40 years.

>>57874619
Linux devs think good software is basically copying commercial software badly to work on a 70's operating system architecture.

MS Office
Photoshop
eGPU support
Random bugs you need to google and dwell into the terminal to fix

>>57875802
Low quality b8, m8.

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>>57875802
>Edge
wow you were really trying hard aren't you

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>>57875182
>Windows 10

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I'm using it right now to type my finals

I feel so uncomfortable in windows

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>>57876277
what's with eGPU again?

I'm used to Windows and it needs little time for me to keep in order.

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>>57874619
>reasons you havnt gone 100% linux
Not enough games have Linux support, I could either go Linux and use either the half-ass wine or a VM or I could just stay on Windows.

>>57876319
Mine works only on a single screen when using Linux, unlike Windows which changes screen automatically according to the active GPU.

solidworks
adobe photoshop / premiere
corel draw
vive support
overall gpu performance hit

these are all things I need to work for capitalist activities

>>57876302
wtf is this shit srsly, LE JUST GO TO about:flags AND LE CHECK VP9 SUPPORT, like i tried to find solution for this but everyone, everywhere saying just enable VP9 support and opus audio format but not a single webm is working in the web, and when i go to youtube.com/html5 it actually shows VP9 support BUT IT NEVER WORKS.
Edge itself is pretty nice browser i like it but not being able to watch triggers me so i never use it.

>>57874619
heres my list of reasons:

>>57876436
Only computer illiterates are tricked into using Edge/Internet explorer

>>57875525

suuuuuuuuuure thing. yuuuuuup

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>>57874619
>itt reasons you havnt gone 100% linux
All of the desktop environments look like shit. Those that look decent are buggy as fuck and just don't WORK well.

Just looking good is not enough. Unfortunately, it's much easier to put a lipstick on a pig than to make a quality DE.

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>>57874619
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>57874619
3d and sound production. Also excel.

>>57876560
>3d
blender works great on linux

>>57875880
>resolution
arandr / nvidia-settings / amdcccle depending on GPU
First works for any.

>repository
If apt is hard to use, there are graphical front ends like synaptic. Also running aptitude without flags gives you a terminal user interface you can move around in.

im not gay, op

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Because of this OS.

>>57876570
blender is crap

>>57876508
Try out some window managers instead.

>>57874906
Photoshop6 works great on wine

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>>57876620

>>57874619
Because there is literally no reason to use linux. There are no upsides, only downsides.

Even if every single program I use was natively available for linux, I'd still use macOS.

>>57876436
Protip: 4chan can't into VP9 webm. The webms you see here are VP8.

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>>57876673
>mac

It's not even software at this point, and I'm not much of a gamer. With Linux drivers, my video card does not deliver the level of performance that I require from my workstation, let alone what I paid for. Windows Server does.

>>57875907
Linux is great. GNU and the ecosystem that grew up around it is pure cancer, and I believe that it has always been and remains the main reason for the failure of Linux-based solutions on the desktop and notebook. They can't be reasoned with, and it's usually easier to just start an entirely new project that they can't drag down with licensing issues. Look at Canonical, who were/are actually trying to work with these crazies.

>>57874619
The fact that my GPU doesn't perform that well. I have "muh gaemz", i just can't play them.

>>57874887
Patrician taste in vidya

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Because there's no reason after using macOS.

>>57874619
All the 3DS and PS3 tools used to convert or split games.

>>57876735
I would love to use MacOS but their hardware is shit

>>57876764
>shit hardware
Ok kid.

If you really care you can go the hackintosh route.

>>57876764
>still the best trackpads on the market
>some of the most color accurate displays on the market
>fastest SSDs in consumer laptops
>still have the best battery life

>>57876764
I would never pay for a macbook on my own.

But work coughs up for a new pro every few years, so I can't complain.

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>>57876811
>still have the best battery life

>he hasn't heard the news

>>57875802
discord is available on linux

>>57876794
hackintosh is unstable as hell, and drivers for nvidia 10 series are non-existent

I still have a 2015 mbp retina but it'll likely be the last mac I ever buy

>>57876821
>shifting the goalposts

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>>57876844
I'd just like to interject for a moment. What you're referring to as Linux, is in fact, GNU/Linux, or as I've recently taken to calling it, GNU plus Linux. Linux is not an operating system unto itself, but rather another free component of a fully functioning GNU system made useful by the GNU corelibs, shell utilities and vital system components comprising a full OS as defined by POSIX.

Many computer users run a modified version of the GNU system every day, without realizing it. Through a peculiar turn of events, the version of GNU which is widely used today is often called "Linux", and many of its users are not aware that it is basically the GNU system, developed by the GNU Project.

There really is a Linux, and these people are using it, but it is just a part of the system they use. Linux is the kernel: the program in the system that allocates the machine's resources to the other programs that you run. The kernel is an essential part of an operating system, but useless by itself; it can only function in the context of a complete operating system. Linux is normally used in combination with the GNU operating system: the whole system is basically GNU with Linux added, or GNU/Linux. All the so-called "Linux" distributions are really distributions of GNU/Linux.

>>57876894
GNU/Shut GNU/up, GNU/Stallman

>>57874807
Dota works Linux. Better game on better OS.

internet doesnt work on my loonix

>>57877970
>falling for the loonix meme
lmao

>>57874717
Win7 ftw
I'm using Home Premuin, wbu?

>>57874619
I still play semi modern video games.

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>>57876357
thank me later

>>57875126
enjoy your shitty fps on shitty opengl

>>57878264
TFW 4770K

>>57874807
It work fine with wine-staging

>>57874619
Because I program .NET apps for a living.

GNU+Linux is great for autism relief tho

>>57878352

my LoL screen freezes for 5-10 seconds once a game in Linux without fail. Exactly once, after the freeze it always works. The problem is the freeze tends to happen in all-ins

>>57874677
This
also
>PS
>C4D
>Autodesk shitton applications
>Other 3D simulation/rendering programs.
> MS Office 2013
And no, I don't even care for gaymes, if above list fully native working on linux, I'll never boot windows again.

Work, my clients depend on Microsoft software. Linux is superior, but lack some software

Games.

Kritia is a good enough replacement for photoshop for me.

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>>57874619
There's no reason. I use Debian on all of my machines now. Feels good to not be retarded or autistic.

>>57878264
>The first one (vt-d) is trivial.
>unless you have the range of chips that most enthusiasts have
Heh. Worthless.
>Synergy
Anyone who's actually used Synergy knows it shits the bed when used in first-person games.

Anyway, thread

Adobe tools, Office, Foobar2K (no Linux music player comes close, everyone knows this), being able to play games without having to purchase a new processor, knowing my PC will boot up and not kernel panic after a system upgrade, not having to spend hours configuring pulse/alsa or hacked-together packages for proprietary drivers, not having to spend hours figuring out why font rendering has suddenly killed itself, not having to hunt down the garbled mess that systemd has renamed your ethernet adapters to enable network functionality (and then listening to people complain that you're the devil for using systemd in the first place), not having to worry about whether or not a printer I may need to use is supported, X not supporting higher display resolutions, the fact that I can't even put my PC on standby without locking up because of the video card I use.

I don't use my computer for anything other games.

>>57874619

fucking this. I would gladly pay monthly for Photoshop CC if they ported it to GNU/Linux.

GNU/Linux also needs to become more user friendly and GigaByte (the motherboard manufacturer) needs to fix their fucking motherboards. Certain AM3+ models have a bug where GNU/Linux cannot be installed and it just spews out errors ad infinitum

Ableton, Max, and various plugins
Audio drivers/etc
Adobe

>>57874619
The only reason I haven't gone linux is becaus games like overwatch, league of legends, and most mmos that I play with my friends just won't run on it.

>>57876650
Did you use play on linux?

>>57874677
use latex you massive pleb

>>57876650

I tried 7 and it ran a little slow, will give 6 a shot

>>57874619
the cinnamon-screensaver/locker broke after an update of it
the community does not help
all i get is "update to the new version" "it works for me"

in short the community and broken updates are why win7 is the os i am using

>>57878984
>GNU/Linux
>actually using the term

>2016
>still using PS

>>57874619
>gayms
Like 99% of them won't Linux, not even w/ wine.

>no decent media player
Timestamp w/ thumbnail on the seek bar on mouse over, is it SO hard to accomplish? Most of them don't even have equalizers for god's sake!

>no decent image viewer
Everyone has at least TWO mouse buttons. Why the fuck don't these script kiddies learn to make use of them? No custom selection for zoom, no pan, no nothing. Menu for the right button? Bitch please, that's what the menu bar is for, that button is reserved for panning. Retarded as fuck GUI design, like for all other programs.

>no decent file manager (out of the box)
I'd have to mod the everliving fuck out of Thunar, and that would be still the easiest way by far to get a file manager w/ big thumbnails & filenames without retarded padding and line break, that make two rows of eight thumbnails w/ uneven spacing between them appear on my 34" ultra-widescreen.

Why I want to switch:
>conky, bash
>actual fucking folder size in k/M/G/Bytes

Visual Studio, I work predominantly in the C# industry, if mono didn't throw random errors that didn't correlate to actual error I would probably use wine, but mono just isn't stable and mature enough for me to trust it.

>>57874619
ShareX is pretty good.
Too bad it's C# up the ass.

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>>57874619
3DS max
AutoCAD
Rhino
BIM
Vector works
Illustrator, InDesign, Photoshop
One note
Muh vidya

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>>57874619
>photoshop
Enjoy your large file sizes.

Fucking Fluent.

I don't like LibreOffice either, but i use latex for anything other people are gonna see and plain text for my own stuff.

>>57876316
>writing a serious paper
>not latex
Why would you do this?

>>57874619
Win only Gaymes.

>>57880634
>why not use this shit nobody has ever heard of before, because the twenty different former programs they heard of before flopped
See? This is why I use Windows...

>>57874619
I have a functioning brain.

>>57874677
this

>inb4 undergrads desperately trying to praise libre bs
>inb4 word 2010 in wine

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>>57874619

i have

>>57874619
I already have gone full Linux. I'm using Manjaro for fucking everything except video editing, high amounts of image manipulation (working on an image for 2 hours or similar jobs) or playing certain games. If I need any of those three, I boot my passthrough VM which can do all of those tasks while I'm using Linux.

Programs I usually use the passthrough VM:
>Photoshop
>Sony Vegas
>Video Game X.
>Any rare program that otherwise wouldn't work in Wine.

>>57876300
Not an argument.

I'm happy with Windows.

>>57880634
Because I need to focus on the actual content of the paper and do not want to fiddle with manual format all the time

also, its kind of ugly.

Killer features that are missing:
Vydia
Adobe Illustrator (and Photoshop + After Effect + InDesign, to a minor extent)
Visual Studio
Drivers

Minor things that are nicer on Windows:
Accenti (the app for accents, much more comfy than using a compose key)
Audio device management

I try to use FOSS/Multiplatform apps when possible, but the alternatives for the aforementioned either don't exist (Vidya mostly) or are not good enough (Inkscape / GIMP / Atom) for my needs.
It's nice that there is FOSS that actually rocks thought (Krita, OBS, ..)

1. know how fix windows with linux ... wouldn't know how to fix shit in linux without looking it up

2. using win since XP so fuck linux, don't need it - have tried ubuntu ... great but no need

3. shit-ton of files and applications that wouldn't work on linux, wouldn't wan't to use emulators to emulate a win within linux

4. got no use for it now ...

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>>57880692
>why not use this shit nobody has ever heard of before
Here's your (You).

>>57880692
It's not like this has been around longer than m$ word and perfected handling large documents with a bibliography, cross references and amazing text formatting

>>57880805
>Focus on the actual content
That's why you should use it, it takes care of all the bullshit you have to do manually in wysiwyg word processors

>>57880842
It's not like these goddamn linux shits come and go like the fad they are.
use openoffice... oh wait, it's shit
use libreoffice... oh wait, it's shit
use ...

I'm tired of script kiddie attempts trying to make shit compatible with what +90% of people use. I just use Windows and the issues with compatibility are solved.

>>57880872
So what? Im tired of microsoft constantly breaking compatibility and changing their proprietary formats for no reason other to ruin the day of open source developers. There are people trying to maintain an open standard for the greater good of all users and idiots like you ruin that approach by continuing to support the dealbreaker.
Latex is an open standard and compiles to ghostscript and pdf, viewable on any recent device and less intense in resources. There's no reason not to learn and use it.

>>57881046
You are right. Microsoft fucks up standards. The xml they are using is not following the format properly. But if they are the 90%, and you are just 1/5th of the remaining 10%, guess what happens? The way Microsoft is doing it is the new standard. So instead of waiting for open source developers to adapt, I just go with Microsoft. It's the easier way out.

I do not PREFER using Windows, I am FORCED to use Windows.

>>57874619

* Gaymen
* Solidworks
* My favourite mp3 tag application (tagscanner)

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Once .Net Core is (close to) on par with .Net 4.6, I can probably drop Windows at work.

I haven't run Windows at home for close to a decade now.

>>57874619
none. GNU/Linux does everything i want now.

>>57881075
That third item doesn't work on Wine? VM?
Really, tagging?

>>57874619
Visual Studio and the .NET framework. That's really it. Other than that i would be going 100% Linux.

>>57875182
SOME distros are easier. Arch is not easier to use than Windows 10 i will tell you that much. I run a dual boot system, with Win10 and Arch. Maybe Ubuntu or Mint are easier to use, but certainly not Arch or any of the Distros that require thought to install.

f

>>57881072
The thing a that they build their monopoly on that "new standard" and refuse to let other companies use it nor even publish their way of doing it. I'm not okay with this or want to support it in any way, so I just refuse to use their products. I accept that certain tasks are harder when I'm forced to work with microsoft formats for work or school, but I'm willing to take the extra efforts.
It's still a shame people like you, browsing /g/ and probably being generally interested in tech, refuse to do this, too.

>>57881266
>certainly not Arch or any of the Distros that require thought to install.
Then use Antergos or Manjaro. Easy to install and comes with all the needed proprietary drivers out of the box if you choose non-free installation.

>>57874619
Fucking device drivers holding me back and few format support issues but in about 1 to 3 years I see myself using linux only.

Have a second computer just to mess around with it and getting used to the whole thing. Kind of torn between few distros and can't decide what to use.

>>57881319
Sorry, I'm not willing to risk losing my job. If a couple thousand euros are on the line when I'm applying for a tender, and the recipient can't process the documents, I'm fucked.

>>57874619
I'm a .net developer

>>57881465
*couple hundred

>>57881440
>Kind of torn between few distros and can't decide what to use.
This is common in the beginning. There's so many flavors and it's hard to stay on one.

I'd test out the obvious Ubuntu-derivations (including Mint), Debian, Fedora, OpenSUSE, Antergos, Manjaro. Plus check out different DEs that you might like, for example Cinnamon, GNOME, KDE, Xfce, MATE, or WMs like OpenBox/Awesome.

Once you've traversed and checked out a few of them you'll easily come to the conclusion what you subjectively like best.

What kind of device drivers are holding you back anyway?

>>57881072
>I am fine with being cucked by MicroSuck

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>>57874619
what is better?
Double booting Linux and Windows 7 or running Linux on a Virtual Machine while it's running Windows 7.
Sorry, for the image. I am reorganizing reactions folder.

>>57874949
What about video editing software? Like After Effects.

>>57881555
Running Linux on bare metal and have a virtual machine running Windows 7 when you absolutely need it.

>>57876519
go to /lit/ cuck

Doesn't look or work good on my workstation PC
Works well on my laptop tho

>>57881465
You see, the advantage of pdf files is that everybody can view them and they are guaranteed to look the same everywhere. Unlike docx or odt files that may look different on the recipients machine. If you send important business letters in a changeable format you're not too smart anyway.

>>57880301
That's illustrator

Okay, I'll jump the gun:

Windowsbabbeh of 22 years, recommend me a distro for dual boot which is good for heavy media use. I mean terabytes upon terabytes worth of pictures and videos, and daily OBS streaming. Just pictures and videos out of the wazoo, so I need exquisite thumbnail and video playback features. No, not XBMC, this is a desktop PC I use to do everything else as well, just relatively less often.

>>57881575
Do you like the pic?

>>57881549
>I'm fine with not being a mazochist and use the thing that works best
ftfy

>>57881600
I'll be sure to pass along these two sentences with that PDF, if I am required to submit a different format. Thanks. Question: what is your suggestion for online forms that only accept a particular file format? Just rename the PDF to xlsx and hope that they recognize what I did? What would you recommend our translators to edit the PDF files with? Does it work with CAT tools?

>>57876620
tfw too poor to afford Macbook, looks so comfy i wanna shitpost from mac whats that lil acorn software in right bottom corner?

>>57881505
>What kind of device drivers are holding you back anyway?

- AMD/Ati graphics
- external soundcard
- scanner over wifi (more of an software problem actully)

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I still need to finish 458 games

>>57881998
>Favourites
>One game

>>57881924
>AMD/ATI Graphics
The proprietary driver is pretty decent. You'd need to install it in that case.
>External Soundcard
Some are a pain, others need some tweaking, and some are fucking shit. There's probably a workaround somewhere.
>Scanner over WiFi
If there are zero drivers for some reason. Windows VM or Wine would solve that. I bet you don't scan that often anyway.

When i pushed the windows key and it's didn't open the app menu is when i knew this is gonna be a shit OS.

>couldn't install a package manager without weird ass errors
>couldn't install steam without errors
>errors and random freeze
>samba not working properly
>file manager crashing all the time
>asking for my password all the time i wanna open something
>couldn't even launch wine even if it was installed and there was no error message

And i was right,shit that just work on windows is a fucking chore in Linux.

>>57882013
Its a default folder in steam, i cant rename it

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>>57874619

>>57874619
Skype is horribly outdated. I couldn't find a good alternative to Audio repeater.

>>57874619
don't like change
games
don't like change

>>57882051
I actually use the scanner daily, mostly need to scan various documents to multipaged pdf-files. Printing is something I rarely have to do anymore these days.

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>>57878279
I have Manjaro running with passthrough so...yea AyyMd card too. Costs me one extra cable I had in a bin anyways. My Paradox games many of them run natively anyways.

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>>57882282
I have a Dell Laser MFP that's pretty old and Dell does open source drivers. It just werx.

>>57882307
Good to know

>>57875880
>searching online for an installer, downloading it, executing it and pressing next a bunch of times is faster than typing once apt-get install [program name]

>I'm too retarded to even use the built in display manager hence it can't be done
Haven't used ubuntu in years and I think last time it still run on gnome2 and you could literally click on the monitor shaped icon on the taskbar and change every display setting.
I refuse to believe that it's much harder in unity.

>>57878264
input lag must be horrendous

>>57874717
You have incredibly lofty standards

>>57880692
Sure, it's not like latex is the academic standard for papers, articles, presentations and anything that must be presented in written form.

Pretty much just autodesk and vidya. I main Linux but those 2 things are the reason why I keep windows on a different part.

>>57882421
Okay schoolkid.

Once you join the actual work force, you'll find out that the standard is having to deal with outdated systems, and their annoying limitations, unless you work for some fortune 500 company, or a startup that may or may not flop at any moment in time.

Welcome to the real world.

>>57882456
>moving goalpost

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>>57880692
>latex
>this shit nobody has ever heard of before
Oh my...

>>57874619
none
Debian here
i couldn't find one single, good reason to still use W7

>>57882484
latex=condom
office=microsoft
k?

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>>57875880
>I find it hard to do things like change resolution with simple button
Are you even trying?

>>57882488
>i couldn't find one single, good reason to still use W7
I use Win7 in VM for passthrough to play games

>>57874850
Get a new job that respects your Freedoms.

>>57874694
Irony at its best

>>57882548
WINE satisfies my needs

Photoshop CC
Illustrator CC
Animate CC
Premiere Pro CC

>>57882544
>16:9
pleb

>>57882593
Yea it's very YMMV. Most of my games already are supported natively or run like dogshit or not all with Wine. Passthrough is great there. Oh well one less installed program.

>>57882609
unless you're playing the newest games, WINE works perfectly

>>57874619

Pure laziness.

I've been fucking around with Linux here and there for the last 5 years, going as far as learning how to install Arch from scratch.

I've had one too many nightmares with getting a bootloader configured right, which kinda turned me off to Linux, even though it's my fault, so I've just been living on Windows 7, and Mint dev environment which I have in a VM.

>>57881675

The acorn icon is, actually, a program called Acorn. It's a photo editing app, got it on sale. I only use it a few times a year though.

>>57875182
>update Windows 10
what the fuck are YOU talking about?

>>57882061
Package managers are installed by default
Steam is finicky unless you're in Ubuntu
Samba should work fine
What file manager? Thunar never crashes for me
You don't launch wine, it doesn't have a gui except for the config
You can disable password requests

Just do some fucking reading it's a new ecosystem what's wrong with it having a learning curve?

I use Linux on my school laptop because software development is easier

at this point its pure laziness

>>57882061
>doesn't know how to assign the windows key to open the app menu

>>57882675
>what's wrong with having to troubleshoot things that work somewhere else out of the box

>>57874619
>>57874677
Word and illustrator work fine in linux with wine

Any alternative on Linux to IrfanView?

>>57882980
Did you mean GNU/Linux?

>>57882675
Newest games I have are Stellaris/Hoi4/Endless Space 2/Civ6. Most of the newer titles just don't interest me. If they do a Tribes game again maybe I'll get back into FPS.

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>>57882980
We don't describe free software as an “alternative” to proprietary, because that word presumes all the “alternatives” are legitimate and each additional one makes users better off. In effect, it assumes that free software ought to coexist with software that does not respect users' freedom.

We believe that distribution as free software is the only ethical way to make software available for others to use. The other methods, nonfree software and Service as a Software Substitute subjugate their users. We do not think it is good to offer users those “alternatives” to free software.

>>57878924
>Adobe tools, Office, Foobar2K, being able to play games without having to purchase a new processor,
Yes, true.
>knowing my PC will boot up and not kernel panic after a system upgrade,
Never ever had this problem on a stable distro like Ubuntu. However, windows does fuck shit up with updates, and takes ages to update, after pressing the fucking powerbutton. And even then you need to fucking wait after starting up again.
>not having to spend hours figuring out why font rendering has suddenly killed itself
Windows doesnt have good font rendering to begin with.
>not having to worry about whether or not a printer I may need to use works.
All printers Ive had work for me, but the problem is generally the stupid printers which have planned obselence.

>>57882999
>>57883010
typical useless answer that gets me nowhere, just like your fucking OS

you and Linux are made for each other

>>57883021
>planned obselence
Canon LBP-3010
Epson DX3800

Both have Windows 98 drivers and Windows 10 drivers alike. Bought both of them over 10 years ago ass cheap.

>>57882939
WINE runs shitload of things that don't work on newest Windowses unless you, surprise!, troubleshot things so don't give me that shit

>>57883062
I have a Dell 1815DN MFP Laser printer/scanner/fax/copier/ethernet that has drivers for everything even open source. Workgroup printers are god damn tanks. I think I spent maybe 250-300 new and I can still get toner carts for 10-20 dollars or refill them myself via bottle and a funnel.

>>57883062
The canon one has linux drivers. I see no problem.

I was talking about the consumer printers and not professional ones. The lower range tend to break after a while by a 'firmware update' or something alike.

>>57883110
Yea I recall back in the 90's and early 00's all the shitty Lexmark and Canon printers with built in fuses on the carts for ink/toner among other things to force a failure after so many pages.

I only use Slackware.

>>57883125
Oh and you could of course bypass the fuses since most of the time there was still ink or toner left and it wasn't truly dead. They also liked to ship quarter to half filled carts (they still do I bet) with the printer itself since the money even back then was in the ink/toner cart "monopolies"

>>57883086
"Don't give me that shit" either. It's a whole different ballpark to troubleshoot something that should work but isn't, than something that expects you to do shit to get it to work. The former is a nuisance, but not typical, the latter is a fucking requirement.

>>57883110
Dude. The 3010 was literally the cheapest laser printer off the shelf even at release. Professional? I still have the original toner in it.

Live in Linux would be so cash, just as good as in a mac.

>>57883151
>something that should work but isn't
>meanwhile microsoft officially says "X will not work on Windows" because fuck you
wew

>>57883181
>muh Win7 won't get DX12
cry me a river...

>>57883207
damage control much?

>>57874619

GPU passthrough on a vm.

>>57883223
(you)

>>57883261
i'm sorry that i proved you wrong, anon
...actualy i'm not. eat shit

>>57883280
It's not a software that doesn't work you fucking imbecile, it's a Windows COMPONENT they decided not to make for OLD versions of Windows, so the shit you can't run because of this INCOMPATIBILITY issue has nothing to do with anything.

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>>57874619
0. I hardly game anymore and even then, it's mostly Valve games. Darktable for my photos. Chrome, mpv, qbit, Plex, etc. I'm good

>>57883319
nice dodge, faggot

>>57883319
oh, and enoy your emulators for every 16bit program
don't forget to blame COMPONENTS not made for OLD systems

>>57874677
>not using google.docs

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Krita.

now you can install gentoo

>>57874677
Microsoft Words compatibility with Microsoft Word is fucked.

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>>57883490
>using google botnet

>>57874619
I'll never use any of these things because I work in emergency medicine, I switched to loonies 100% years ago and never looked back

>>57883581
*loonixes

unity dev

drivers

>>57874619
Muh gaymes

>>57881242

Maybe, haven't tried yet and because I dual boot I don't need it.

Tagging. Yes I'm an old school mp3 hoarder and like it neatly organized. inb4 autism.

Reaper / DAW in general

>>57878264
OK, let's imagine this works perfectly as advertised and doesn't result in any strange behavior at all in any game.

Now you're using Linux, and OS that is terrible as an every day General purpose os. Linux is only good when used for a specific task inside a VM or through Ssh. You've needlessly gimped your ability to accomplish tasks.

Why the hell would anyone do this? Why not just run Linux in a VM?

Vidya gaymin.
That's the only reason. I turned off all the win10 phone home shit.

>>57886033
>Linux, and OS that is terrible as an every day General purpose os.
-10/10

>>57886033
> OS that is terrible as an every day General purpose os. Linux is only good when used for a specific task inside a VM or through Ssh
This is complete bullshit though.
You sound like a windows user who tried linux once and got angry and confused when things worked a little differently/tried arch and got angry and confused when it worked very differently.
t. linux convert of a few months now.

>>57876570
I wish I liked blender but it'd still leave me with no audio workstation. I tried kxstudio but the problem is kernel level.

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>>57886078
>I turned off all the win10 phone home shit.
>things that didn't happen

>>57874619
after trying for a day i was not able to get my gpu with optimus to work or whatever that thing is called to switch from gpu rendering to intel hd

or i for that matter i couldn´t get the gpu to work at all

>>57886147
I use Linux all the time though. Inside a couple VMs, and through Ssh to manage sever servers.

Why anyone would use it as their main OS makes no sense.

>>57882061
Same. I installed ubuntu but steam won't install. Apt get just throws errors.

>>57874619
macOS

>>57876811
>Best battery life
posting from my laptop that gets 20+ hours of online work done from a single charge
get rekt macfags.

The screen and trackpad are nice though

>>57880763
How is F25?
24 was a buggy piece of shit on release so I'm reluctant to upgrade

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le gaymur meme

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>>57882730
>blocking security updates
>wondering why your computer runs like shite
heh

>>57874619

pretty much the same. plus video games

>>57882563
>I don't know how to resize my taskbar

>>57874619
I've been a 100% hardcore gentoo user for a few years but I'm having thoughts about installing windows 10 recently

help me /g/ :(

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>>57888835

>>57888878
what is this? how it works?

>>57888929
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=16dbAUrtMX4

>>57874619
I like clicking on things instead of typing
In fact, most of my posting here is done using mouse macros

>>57888878
>>57888835 here
I don't have a spare GPU, and my CPU is not capable of VGA passthrough either way.

>>57875126
Even on Gentoo, the most maintenance I'll do is a system update maybe once a week

>>57888929
It's called PCI Passthrough or GPU passthrough. As long as your CPU has VT-d support, you can pass a GPU to a VM and make it run at pretty much native speeds in games. That way you can use Linux and play Windows-only games simultaneously.

The downside is that it reserves your GPU for the VM which means you'll have to use the internal GPU on your CPU for Linux, or you can buy another cheap dedicated one (or maybe you have one laying around). So you probably already have all you need as long as you have a CPU with an internal GPU, a dedicated GPU and a CPU that supports VT-d.

>>57889399
>As long as your CPU has VT-d support,
And you have a spare 500€ GPU lying around.

>>57874619
Already have.

>>57874906
>>57874906
>>57874906
Linux isn't for people that like to shoop Taylor Swift's face onto a pornstar's body, faggot.

>>57878924
>>unless you have the range of chips that most enthusiasts have
>Heh. Worthless.
All K parts from the 4790K has it (all Devil's Canyon, Skylake and such), all the X99 chipset CPUs has it. Not to mention every single non-K CPU has it. It is not a rare technology to find in CPUs today. You might have some ancient 3770K and in that case you might finally have a reason to upgrade.

>Anyone who's actually used Synergy knows it shits the bed when used in first-person games.
Wrong. All you need to do is lock the cursor to the screen. It works perfectly for Counter-Strike, L4D, Skyrim and any other first person game I've tried.

>>57882374
Virtually zero. If you want to be 100% sure it is zero, pass your mouse through to it.

>>57887102
>buying anything made under Tim Crook's faggot ass

>>57889414
>And you have a spare 500€ GPU lying around.
Read the post again. All you need is a normal dedicated GPU and your internal GPU that is already on your CPU dye unless you are using a X99 chipset or Xeon processor which doesn't have integrated graphics cards.

You do not need an expensive card whatsoever. You do not need to buy another GPU. You have two already.

>>57878264
>You'll need a second GPU for this, which luckily you already have
Yeah, good thing I just have a spare GTX 970 lying around

fucking morons

>>57874619
>Work in IT so need to have basic understanding of windows
>Occasionally play overmeme with my friends and can't emulate DX11
That's literally it.

>>57889485
>All you need is a normal dedicated GPU and your internal GPU that is already on your CPU dye unless you are using a X99 chipset or Xeon processor which doesn't have integrated graphics cards.
I have a Xeon processor.

>You do not need an expensive card whatsoever. You do not need to buy another GPU. You have two already.
You're making the assumption that I'm not using my GPU on Linux. If that's the case, then WHY THE FUCK WOULD I HAVE BOUGHT A GPU? Jesus christ some people are retarded

>>57889487
>Yeah, good thing I just have a spare GTX 970 lying around
You use your current graphics card whatever it is and your internal GPU. You don't need a spare dedicated graphics card.

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I'm still searching for a Linux distribution that works better than Windows XP on my netbook. But games are the only reason for me, I honestly prefer gimp for graphics, I started out using it and don't feel like taking the time to learn Photoshop, I'm not a graphic artist, just occasional editing and creating stuff.

Video games.

Also

>Not switching to Inkscape and Gimp

v i d y a g a y m e s

>>57889485
But... won't the dedicated GPU take precedence over the integrated under Linux? How can I force it to use intel?

>>57889525
If you need games, you don't need Linux nor is there a logical reason to run it on hardware not used for secure communication. GIMP for Windows is a thing.

OS are tools, not moral obligations.

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I've always used it on my laptop's though.

>>57889520
>You use your current graphics card whatever it is and your internal GPU. You don't need a spare dedicated graphics card.
Yeah and I'll no longer be able to play games or watch movies on linux

>All these people saying vidya as their reason
All memeing aside, what the fuck games are you playing that you can't just run through wine or a VM?

>>57889564
>>57889520
Not to mention using a graphical desktop is going to be be a shitty experience because the intel drivers for linux are absolute dog shit

>>57889565
I want to play The Turing Test and Defunct

Latter runs like dogshit through wine, former requires DirectX 11

>>57889565
>>57889577
I also want to try out Overwatch because my friend is offering to give me his account for free and I just want to see what it's all about

>>57889543
>>57889543
Because on a dual monitor setup like mine on Manjaro you just to run two cables to each monitor from the IGP or extra GPU if you bought one with an IGP. The third cable runs from your dedicated GPU AMD/Nvidia card to your main gaming monitor.

>>57889565
Most Wine-compatible games are 10 years old at the very least.

>>57889543
>>57889588
Oh and

https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/PCI_passthrough_via_OVMF

>>57889558
Yeah I wish I could change my viewpoint to somethign like that I really like it, probably just some crap left over from the OS wars bull crap. Everytime i boot into windows there is some strange sickening feeling that doesn't make any sense like a mental disorder of oh its wingablows, but this makes me begin to stop giving a shit. Thanks!

>>57889543
You use vfio-pci (built-in to the Linux kernel since 4.1) which catches the GPU and reserves it for the VM. That way the GPU becomes "disabled" when booted.

>>57889519
>You're making the assumption that I'm not using my GPU on Linux. If that's the case, then WHY THE FUCK WOULD I HAVE BOUGHT A GPU?
Of course I assume that because 99% of the shit anyone can do on Linux doesn't require a 1080. You can't do video editing in this shit since the only software available is OpenShot & Co which fucking sucks dick. GIMP works fine with an integrated GPU and so does Krita. You're talking about movies like an internal GPU can't handle playing anything. I sincerely hope you don't think you need a damn dedicated GPU on your laptop to play a movie. This isn't ten years ago, they've improved dramatically.

Since you do have a Xeon for whatever the fuck reason, then buy a cheap ass fucking 770 or a budget small form factor card for less than $100. If that's out of the question then I bet you can beg some friends of yours to give you or sell you their old cards.

I'd love to hear those "heavy" GPU tasks you do on Linux that requires a fucking 970 that doesn't involve using placebo nnedi3 upscaling in mpv.

>>57889739
>Of course I assume that because 99% of the shit anyone can do on Linux doesn't require a 1080. You can't do video editing in this shit since the only software available is OpenShot & Co which fucking sucks dick. GIMP works fine with an integrated GPU and so does Krita. You're talking about movies like an internal GPU can't handle playing anything. I sincerely hope you don't think you need a damn dedicated GPU on your laptop to play a movie. This isn't ten years ago, they've improved dramatically.
Well, I'm not stupid. I don't just randomly buy hardware I don't need anon. No iGPU is gonna cut it when you want to use jinc upscaling at 4K res, anon. You need about 100 GT/s or higher, for which a GTX 970 is about the bare minimum. That's why I bought it, after all.

>Since you do have a Xeon for whatever the fuck reason, then buy a cheap ass fucking 770 or a budget small form factor card for less than $100. If that's out of the question then I bet you can beg some friends of yours to give you or sell you their old cards.
Yes, and I'll no longer be able to watch movies or play games on Linux. Back to square one, genius.

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>>57874619

I'm a cuck


also I like black dick and I'm a c*ck

Because I can afford a legit copt of windows.

Shitposting aside, I prefer windows. Idk what it is but it just feels better. Anons will bitch and whine about botnet and updates getting in the way, but my w10 has only ever updated once, and it was when i done my weekly restart. As for the irrational fear of a botnet, fuck off back to mommies basement and grow your loli collection.

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>>57883524
>expecting the botnet to care about your 3000 word essay on why sucking dicks doesn't make you a faggot

>>57874619
I mostly have been using Linux for a long long time, (me love you long time)

just that every once in a while i find some piece of hardware that i need to compare functionality in how it runs on windows, right now i have a SDR radio (SDRPlay) and it runs great on windows-7, i can get it to run on Linux with CubicSDR but it is buggy as hell and lacks features, (no notch filters) (no nb filters) no direct frequency input like a number keypad, but it runs great in windows, thats why i keep a laptop with win-7 on it just for that one app that runs that SDRPlay SDR radio, but i hate windows and i dont trust it so it never gets to connect to the internet because not only do i not trust windows i do not trust microsoft even more-so, i dont want those greedy corporate pigfuckers touching my PC so i have a clean install of win-7 that never ever seen the internet that runs HDSDR, SDR# and SDR-Console, and SDR-uno and it runs them all nicely and i refuse to connect this win-7 PC to the internet because i know windows is a vulnerable piece of crap and i dont want anyone to fuck it up and i know microsoft will fuck it all up with the first chance they get so it never ever sees the internet EVAR!!!

>>57889780
>jinc upscaling at 4K res, anon
Exactly as I thought, placebo.

>Yes, and I'll no longer be able to watch movies or play games on Linux. Back to square one, genius.
>Play games on Linux
Wasn't this exactly what you wanted to mitigate by using the passthrough solution to begin with? There's no reason to keep using Linux for games when you can use the VM and have the game work perfectly every time instead of having a shaky native experience.

As for the movie shit, you're a unique case as most people out there don't need to upscale to 4K using ewa lanczossharp to watch a movie. Plus you could do that inside the VM if absolutely necessary.

>>57889912
This

fl studio

>>57874677
What do you mean?

Export as docx or doc and it works fine with m-office

>>57889912
>>57890061
>doesn't run their own cloud services
>lives with parents
>newfags
This board is 18 or older.

>>57890436
That's a pretty hard projection you're making tbqh, especially considering Drive has it's own document editor that has proper .docx exporting and costs literally nothing.

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>>57890460
>doubles down on the botnet

>>57890368
this like, there is no problems
>>57874619
i play stupid vidya sometimes

>>57890498
>Freedom
>Functionality

pick one and only one desu

>>57874619
Linux - Great for hacking and illegal stuff.
Windows - Better at basically everything else.

>>57889920
What would make a difference if it used the internet even once?

I use linux for archiving information and doing "hacky" things for security and other shit. Think of it as your neighborhood library with a 24/7 SWAT team inside and out. Other than that, windows 7 for general shit that Linux doesn't handle well.

>>57874619
foobar, overwatch

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>>57874694
this is better

>>57876735
What audio player?

>>57883524
>using Microsoft botnet

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>>57875802
>Edge
this might be bait, but there are genuinely people who use edge

and all I can say is WHAT THE FUCK DID REBRANDING INTERNET EXPLORER WITH A DIFFERENT FUCKING NAME ACTUALLY WORK FOR MICROSOFT THIS IS SO FUCKING STUPID RREEEEE

>>57893225
It's not just a different name - it's an edgier name

works wonders on the kids

>>57888835
sounds like your mental disorder is clearing up

>>57893550
>>57888835
It's okay, I've been trying to install windows 10 since making that post and at the point where I'm just giving up.

Microsoft has liberated me

>>57874619

I need a video broadcast/mixing software similar to OBS studio but as powerful as Vmix that works at linux.
Support on live mixing and editing multiple source of videos/capture (at least more than 4 sources)
It also need to support different variety of audio and camera input through USB 3.0 with internal and external mixing.
With a mix of GPU and x264 CPU encoding for head to head streaming and youtube stream,


This is the only thing that stopped me from using Linux for my working environment.

>>57876405
Wine

>>57882730
>has to block updates to make the OS usable
>has to disable components to make the OS usable
It's counterproductive and proves the point that Windows is a shitty personal desktop OS, why even use it then?

>>57878924
>no music player comes close
>what is clementine
>what is personal preference
>what is being non-autistic about music players

>purchase a new procesor to play games
You don't need this.

>kernel panic after a system update
>what is Ubuntu and other stable distros

>configuring drivers
>projecting

>>57880204
>gayms
Linux has access to over 50% of existing games without wine, and over 98% with wine/PlayOnLinux. Stop saying it doesn't just because you've only played Windows locked games.

>decent media player
MPV, VLC. Two best video players out there.

>image viewer
Ubuntu one is literally better than Windows default one. Also, why would you even need a gui on a viewer software (image or video)? You should just see the image and nothing else.

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>>57895776
Answering obvious b8.
>Linux has access to over 50%
Maybe 30-25%. Mostly indie (so the best games).

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>>57874619

>>57874619
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WRWrmT0ovPE

>>57874807
you wont swap because of a 2D game owned by the chinese....

>>57895776
>gayms
its about quality not quantity. i would rather have 10 games i actually like than 1000 indie games..

>>57896814
>1000 indie games..
That you don't know thanks to nonexistent hype.

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>>57893514
I see what you did there

>>57874619
>>57878550
These
Hell, I'm actually using macos and I dual boot windows just to use catia
And no catia does not work neither on wine nor on a vm

>>57889564
>I'll no longer be able to play games ... on linux
Because this guide is to allow you to play your gaymes on windows?
If you want to do your shit in linux then do your shit in linux, damnit.

>>57896056
>what are flash, java, browser, console games
At least 50% games are browser based or on consoles which can be emulated easily (PS1/PSP era or older), so you definitely have access to at least half existing games immediately no matter the OS. WINE lets you play majority of Windows games and only has difficulties with directX titles made in the last 4 years. If you have good hardware you won't notice performance differences even on newer titles.

>>57896814
>quality
Subjective, really. Terraria is indie, I personally like it. DOTA 2 is a "quality" game at least in moba types. I don't like it, but it's available on GNU/Linux. I use Windows as a console but don't even need it to game since games I play are usually steam games working on Linux or Windows games made before 2012. Quality of video games has decreased over the years anyway and people only think they're good because of constant ads, shilling and hyping.
Also, a lot of popular games are "indie". Obviously a game's quality isn't determined by it's popularity.

I have, 2 laptops, desktop and server all running Linux now :^)

>>57874619
no SLI support

>>57875126
You're si full of shit. That's the 1 reason all systems here run xubuntu/ubuntu server. 0 maintanance, rocksolid and no fud-apps or updatew

>>57874619
Good corporate support.
Microsoft Word and Excel are industry standards.
Everyone you hire worked with it before and require very little to none additional training.
No matter what you need, someone provides a software solution AND SERVICE for it.

>>57893225
Objectively the fastest and smoothest browser right now :^)

>>57898034
>Objectively the fastest and smoothest browser right now :^)
nigga pls. that's Safari.

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>>57898552
That was true in the past.

>>57898620
Still is. Even more so now. I have Win10 at work and Mac at home and use both every day for many hours. Safari's still the king.

>>57874619
drivers

>>57881614
Mythbuntu?

Or use any distro and install any program you may need, since the only differences between distros are the software they're packaged with, the type of release and the package manager.

>>57898717
You just not into optimization.

>>57897478
The thing you don't understand is that 90% of the games I play run fine on Linux, and I also use my GPU on Linux for other things. You'd be surprised how much integrated GPUs struggle at 4K resolution, even for shit like krita or mpv with color management enabled.

I'm only interested in Windows to cover those 10% of games that are still windows-only and don't run well in wine. Heck, probably even less than 10%.

Either way, it's a pointless discussion because not only do I not have an integrated GPU, but I also don't have a CPU capable of VT-d.