Amazon making cyberpunk dystopia real

I'm gay

>>57854373
uses-apple-products-gay or has-sex-with-men-gay? Because I have no problem with the latter...

>>57854406
Both

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>>57854435
y u do dis faggot-san

>>57854302
>making cyberpunk dystopia real
I'm OK with this.

>>57854302
it's a somewhat good idea if we leave behind the fact that a lot of people WILL lose their jobs if that thing goes mainstream.

>>57855812
it was inevitable that people will lose jobs. if you are /pol/ then this should make you happy because now we won't need to import 3rd worlders into the West anymore because of this.

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>>57855812
Yes goyim, don't you see how much shekels we could sa- I mean how much TIME we- I mean you could save?

>>57855812
Self serve checkouts have already replaced about three quarters of the checkouts at my local grocery chain store. This is just the inevitable conclusion.

>>57855895
Go back to pol faggot.

Whats stopping me from scanning the thing and then turning off my phone so I dont get charged?

Shoplifting. Made easy.

>>57854302
lol who needs an app i already do this minus scanning my phone when i walk in

What if someone hacks it yea this idea aint gonna work

>>57856131
dude what if someone hacks a bank and becomes a millionaire lmao
fucking retard

>>57854302
What stops someone from walking in and taking anything out?

>>57854302
seriously though, why would this be a good idea?
-no price verification at checkout, what if the price doesn't match the one on the shelf?
-no coupons
-seller can automatically accuse you of shoplifting if their sensors don't work properly, this will fuck with current shoplifting case law
-this is only a problem for the top 4% of the population or some shit, most people are not wealthy enough to just go into a store zero fucks given and pick up whatever they want like that

>>57856155
The phone is rigged to explode. Also if you walk slower than 5km/hr.

>>57854302
WAGEKEKS ON SUICIDE WATCH

>>57856084
Why would this make shoplifting easier? If anything it makes it harder since now they have sensors even on inexpensive items that go off if you try to leave without paying.

>>57856007
kill yourself james bond

>>57856292
Not an argument stormfag

>>57855952
>...grocery chain store. This is just to allow amazon a cut.

fixed

>>57856168
I'm sorry you live in a shithole were you can't trust people, I hope amazon brings it here, our community will do well

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>>57856303

>>57854302
Looks bretty good, I see nothing wrong with this

>>57854302
can't wait to see a horde of dindus raid this places

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>>57856341
>when a poltard is faced with questions he starts freaking out

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>>57856372
>Literally IRL botnet tracking

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>>57856443
i'll bite
>when a normalfag libtard is spewing nothing but memes to avoid an argument with a intelligent stormfag
really makes you think

>>57856506
>stormfag
>intelligent

Let me guess, you're an American?

>>57856443

Holy fuck.

Go back to plebbit with your normie memes.

>>57856490
It's botnet tracking insofar as you're inside the store and you're logged into your amazon account (which is required to enter in the first place)

They already track you inside stores with survellance cameras, the principle is that those cameras just track what items you take/put back and add it into an automatic cart so you can leave as they deduct it from your account

I hate botnet as much as the next person, but grocery shopping is a public activity and privacy obviously can't be expected. This is one of those things that just make everything easier and I'll aboard.

>comments are disabled for this video
:^)

>>57856553
>not being american
Let me guess, you're a cucked europoor faggot?

>>57856554
Awww, you need a safe space?

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Reminder that Bitcoin will be our only way out from the nightmare. No Bitcoin? enjoy your lack of financial privacy you god damn cuck faggot.

>>57856596
Not an argument fatass

>>57856596
touched a nerve did I americuck?

>>57856290
SURE,
welcome to /cyb/ u can always beat the big corp with few wellplaced emp shocks on the rfid tags

>>57856618
Proud to have someone on my side, fucking fatass Americans

>>57856616
>not an argument meme xdddddd
>>57856618
you should feel bad because you aren't american :^)

>>57856490
LOL. Walmart has been IRL botnet tracking people inside their store for YEARS.

>>57856647
How's that heathcare system going cuck?

>>57856579
>but grocery shopping is a public activity

public as in, a few other people in the store can see what I looked at and purchased (and they'll forget), a security camera that is wiped at the end of the week. not comparable to having all info fed into the botnet profiling.

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>>57856659
>walmart
>implying anyone but shart-in-marts shop there

ITT: Btfoed amerifats

>>57856705
By that logic, what's stopping someone in public from taking a picture of you when you're not looking? How can you know for sure 100% that the security cameras are wiped and not kept somewhere else?

I'll admit that you have a point wherein if I buy something silly at a grocery store like a kid's toy, I might start seeing kid toy ads on the web, but that falls into the realm of just having adblockers as usual. They cannot force me to see ads irl in the same way, as they can just be ignored like they already are now.

This post is to remind everyone that credit != money.

I'm curious to know what will happen if the credit is declined.

>>57854302
what happens if someone without a phone walks in and just casually walks out with a bag full of stuff

>>57856762
You are told to return the item back or put into a bin where workers/robots will put it back, or else be charged with theft?

>>57854373
why should we care?

purge yourself

>>57856752
how so?

>>57856789
>triggered amerishart

>>57856672
It's crap and i hope trump reforms it or takes out ACA

>>57856760
being presented with ads isn't the problem, it's that they have information on you that you didn't consent to them gathering.

>>57855812
Most grocery stores have been replacing people with self-checkouts already, it wouldn't make a gigantic difference. You'd still need people to stock shelves and such.

>>57856808
You forfeit your privacy by being in a public place. Right now, anyone can already gather information about you whenever you're outside.

>>57854302
not really, it's about using technology to make things more automated and our lives easier in general, which is what we should be doing. To further expose the internal contradictions of capitalism and the fact that capitalism has already broken multiple times and will only get worse. At least that's how it starts, such tech is too easy to control and manipulate the world with.

>>57856827
they could, but its not automated. I don't want there to be an infrastructure where that profile-building can be done on a massive scale. if some private eye is willing to stalk me for weeks, then fine, he can have the information. I don't want there to be a massive dragnet that corporations and governments can just put a search term into.

>tfw you work at a grocery store
ban all cars and amazon

>>57854302
What happens if I shut my phone off in the store?

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>Walk into grocery store
>Amazon adds everything I walk past to my cart
>Grab some noodles and leave
>Walmart cop arrests me for shoplifting
>Get billed $56,756,856 for everything Amazon bought for me
>Didn't even get to keep my top ramen

>>57856859
But they also do that, and we do not at least get the benefit of a better shopping experience.

I just hate talking to cashiers, man.

>>57856775
No apparent robo-workers on the video.

>>57856912
The police run in and arrest you for theft

>>57856922
Not shown, but I suspect it to be the case if it's truly high-tech. Either that or yes, just a bin that says "return" next to the exit where you can drop off last-minute changes.

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>>57856914
>walk in and take snack rack
>amazon charges me just for the snack rack
wooow

>>57854302
if I wanted to watch adverts I would watch TV

>>57856040
In a normal store an alarm would sound.
If they are smart, they will rerout you to a normal check-out (phone off = normal checkout).

If they are really smart they will use video tracking and face recognition algorithms to bill you properly without human action.

>Hop the barrier like at the train station
>Everything is now free

Better hire some security so the store looks like a club with bouncers, that'll sure look inviting

>>57856331
literally not an argument for any of my points idiot

>>57856993
>hop barrier
>alarm goes off
>you look stupid and a criminal
>it's recorded so everybody knows what you did
>you are now banned from all other local grocery store as a known thief and also banned from amazon store

wow really worth the risk huh?

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>>57856099

>>57857019

How are they gonna know it's me?

I can just go in wearing a batman costume

>>57854302

>"four years ago, we started to wonder, what would shopping look like if you could walk into a store, grab what you want, and just go"

it's called shoplifting, i do it all the time

>>57857046
They use the same cameras and tracking algorithms...

>go in with batman costume
>alarm already goes off because of suspicion

The same way how going in with a ski-mask triggers everybody or hiding your identity

>>57857057

What's the best thing you've ever stolen?

If I don't have to wait in line at the store, then im all for it.

>>57857067
[spoiler]Your heart.[/spoiler]

>>57857057
>"four years ago, we started to wonder, how can we spy on people's shopping habits when they don't buy things online?"

>>57857065

That's because a ski mask is used for crime, no one will bat an eye if you're a superhero, they'll just think you're going to a costume party

>>57857094
>an adult male in a shitty batman costume comes into a store without signing in, taking something, and running off does not raise suspicion

lol

We woke up one morning and fell a little further down

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>>57857046
Then they'll know it's Bruce Wayne

I don't own a phone though.

>have recording of the beep the kiosk at the front makes when you scan something
>play it, pretending to scan your phone
>walk in
>grab what you need
>get out

>>57854302
>things you'll only see in 99% white neighborhoods

>>57857161
>muh white people

>>57855812
spotted the neo-luddite

>>57857149
There's probably still going to regular checkout stations for the less tech-inclined.

>>57857154
>the kiosk is just there for show and not actually syncing your account to your geolocation

You trigger the alarms.

>>57857112

Well no shit we were talking about getting caught

Next week I'll go as Ironman when they've got Batman posters up, they'll never see it coming

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>>57857177
Not that guy but he isn't wrong you know.

Pic related.

>>57855812
But you can't leave it behind.

This is the "good" looking side of a cyberpunk dystopia. This is the above-ground people you see in Demolition Man.

But all the people who lost their jobs will not even be able to afford food and will be eating rats and/or recycled food.

>>57857275
Then they should apply themselves and find other jobs

>>57857177
Westernized, 2nd+ generation asians can come too, I guess

>>57856610
all bitcoin transactions are a matter of public record dumbass

>>57857298
There ain't no more jobs brutha

>>57854302
Niggers are going to loot the place dry in a day.

>>57854302
If i use a farraday cage will i get detained?

>>57857275
>>57857298

The west will soon have to accept thanks to increasing autonomy and immigration stagnating wages that a living income provided by the state is inevitable

>>57857324
>niggers
>seattle

>>57857337
doubt.jpg

The company that would not open the loading bays in their warehouses to let some fresh air in and force your employees to roast in abysmal temperatures because they were afraid of theft making a store where theft is the first thing that comes to your mind?

>get your phone stolen

You know it's almost sad, there was a time all this kind of thing seemed perfectly logical, inevitable and brilliant...

But with the bonnet, big data, ubiquitous spying, mass information gathering it's flipped around to scary.

If only all of this was done by an anarchist AI who wanted to bring digital power to people, eh?

>>57857438
>anarchist AI
>not malicious against humanity

nice try, skynet

>>57857355

Most people don't have the skills for a post autonomy job market
When there are no jobs and people can't afford to eat what do you think happens?

>Let them eat cake

>>57857459
The very assumption that ALL jobs will be automated is already dead wrong.

There will be jobs. The market will just adapt to new needs, and some jobs will become more valuable than others.

Automation does not happen over night -- during that time frame there's much money to be made as a human.

Full absolute automation of society implies humans have long become extinct.

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>>57857459
>When there are no jobs and people can't afford to eat what do you think happens?

The leader of the elite globalists presses a button, and all over Earth, a virus is released that will kill everyone that wasn't immunized (ie. the globalist elite). They live for eternity (they solved disease and aging but kept it to themselves) with their robot slaves. The end.

>>57857513
No, humans will spend all their time doing things they enjoy, like art, and sex, while billions of slave robots cater to all their needs. You won't even need money for food and housing because robots do it for free.

>>57856827
>You forfeit your privacy by being in a public place.
Nope, you do forgo the ability to conceal some of your information (in this case what is in your cart) from those who are geographically located near you. All other aspects of privacy still remain. For example only the people who see me shopping at WalMart could possibly know the things I buy at WalMart. But when I go shop at Crazy Ted's dildo shop, only the people there could possibly know what I'm buying. Amazon GO digitizes and universally links all transactions @ Amazon go stores. And only the information being directly and outwardly displayed is knowable in public.

>>57857560
>only the people there
>and the people who manage credit card transactions
>and the people who manage the "reward card" membership
>and the security company that reviews all the video footage and have every right to run it through facial recognition databases
>and the traffic camera that watched me enter
>and my wife who sees my receipt for 9 dildos

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Black shoplifters:
>jump over turnstile to enter
>load entire fucking store into garbage bag
>jump over turnstile to exit

White shoplifters:
>check in with phone
>turn OFF the phone while inside
>oops! everything's free now!

>>57857513

I never said all jobs, but let's take the stuff that already is, like cashiers they're already being replaced by self checkouts
Google cars will replace delivery drivers in the same way
We've all seen the robots that can lift boxes and stock shelves so that's warehouse workers

>and some jobs will become more valuable than others

Wrong, they will continue to import immigrants to keep wages stagnant as they are already doing currently

>>57857542

You're probably right, but how will they get new children to molest then?

>>57857624
>You're probably right, but how will they get new children to molest then?

cloning vats

>>57857592
Realistic responses
>Cash
>random phone number reward card

Troll responses
>IR led hat
>Implying I drive
>Implying i have wife

>>57857421
>get your credit card stolen

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>Build a Faraday cage into my purse.
>Fill the purse with food
>Put a pack of gum in your pocket
>Walk out paying just for the gum

>/g/ pretends they know more than Amazon engineers

>>57857721
>implying any engineer takes real life use of their product into account when designing
>implying engineers realize that niggers exist

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What does Amazon do when 10 of these enter the store?

>>57857765
calls ghostbusters

>>57857751
Literally 90% of the time when we're designing things we're trying to think of ever single way some retard is going to try to fuck up our shit.

>>57854302
Kek what stops kids from taking their parents phone and going crazy? They've made theft as easy as can be now.

>>57857799
If it can track adult faces who pick up things and put them back, it can probably track children as well or at least raise an alarm.

>>57854302
Machine Learning and AI for simple proximity detection over Bluetooth?

>>57857765
Maybe they could be forced to wear some kind of identification badge?

>>57857765
I live in a European socialist/degenerate haven, and even we have outlawed this shit. I doubt you'll see many/any of these with Trump.

>>57857834
The US has recently ruled that these people can be issued IDs with their burqas on in their photos

>>57857812
From the video it seems it only tracks items being moved around and not faces. You simply check in with the phone and it automatically ties it to the phones account. Didn't see any facial recognition.

>>57857873
Ah, you're right.

>>57857799
Meh, kids could also run off with parents' wallets and go crazy.
Also it'd be easy peasy to just protect payments by pin or fingerprint (input when turning the app on and walking in).

>>57857619
>he thinks he can turn his phone off

>>57857893
It makes me wonder how they'll handle theft. With a credit card you at least needed a pin in some instances.

>>57857917
Probably with more PINS as >>57857902 said

>>57857904

You know some people have older phones that can remove the battery right?

>>57857902
They didn't mention any pins or identification it's all about the phone and how your shopping is now automated.

It's not "show up, verify identity, shop, verify identity and leave"

It's "show up, associate phone, shop, leave and get charged automatically"

>>57856148
That has happened. People hack ATM machines around the world and make a couple hundred million in a few seconds

>>57856168
>,most people are not wealthy enough to just go into a store zero fucks given and pick up whatever they want like that

what u go to the supermarket and just pick up whatever u want?

>>57855865
>turd worlders
>working

Good one.

What would prevent someone from stealing your phone and emptying the store?

>>57856760
>please turn off adblock to use this service

Its inevitable.

>>57857513
You see the system is rigged for to never happen. Every once in a while someone has a very nice idea that involves automation and corporate moves forward with that idea only to make you the worker less valuable, happened with globalization, will happen with automation.
An example of how things might not go as planned, is robo cars, just think the legal hell it would be for it to run in the streets.
While I do hope the concept fails, because this idea is just another lazy economy thing. I can see a shift favorable to employers in the balance of power.

>>57857973
>ATM machines

Really? They get access without a PIN number?

>>57856168
>-no price verification at checkout, what if the price doesn't match the one on the shelf?

Did you even bother watching the whole fucking video? You see the receipt on your phone you retard. Don't leave if the price is wrong.

>-no coupons

Oh never mind, you're the "extreme couponing" faggot who makes checkout lines take 2 hours.

>>57854302
>when the botnet can MAKE you starve

>>57857310
>Westernized, 2nd+ generation asians

Those are just honorary whites anyway, so his point still stands.

>>57857192
Professor Kaczynski has always been right. Get yourself educated and stop spreading the false technological utopia meme.

>>57857925

>Older phones

You think this app is going to run on iOS 3.0.5 or Android Eclair?

>>57856918

And so the neets will destroy the world.

All because they didn't want to fucking do anything.

>>57855812

Poeple will lose their jobs if other stores somehow implement this technology. There are no lost jobs as far as Amazon goes because no one was never employed in the fist place.

I have to agree that packing stuff in your cart, on the belt, off the belt and in your car is pretty annoying.

>>57857067

I've stolen multiple $1000 - $1200 precision optical instruments.

Feelsgoodman.

>>57857669
It doesn't use RFID or other tags. It watches you, and uses computer vision to see what you put in your bag.

>go into store
>start rearranging the shelves

RL testing, the future is here

>>57854302
>Tfw no ez Amazon go meals

>>57858024
The police

>>57858822
After it's all said and done, sure. We all know how quick a process identify theft is and fixing it.

>Products made, distributed and sold by robots
What are the humans for?

>>57858861
When a thief steals your phone and then conspicuously stockpiles stuff from the store yes

>>57858861
Not to mention it will probably work like Apple pay so that you would need to verify a password or fingerprint to pay

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>>57857311

fear not

>>57858881
consuming the products and producing waste, dummy

>>57856705
If you have a card for that grocery they do already track what you buy, it's no secret that they happly give you some sale with those cards, it's all for le tracking bills

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>>57854302

The cyber punk dystopian future has been here since the 90's, it's just that nobody noticed.

>>57856598
Kill yourself gaylord

>>57856616
Not an insult, nigger

>>57857085
SHOT THROUGH THE HEART

>>57857198
>There's probably still going to regular checkout stations for the less tech-inclined.
We're talking about Amazon. If you're less technical, they'll just tell you to fuck off.

So fake a QR code and have all your shit charged to other people? Great idea amazon

>>57859485
>>57859497
Just shut up amerifatties, we are talking about amazon shopping, get your American cuck guns and bbc out of here

This is what the "fight for $15" people want right?

flash mob the place

what are they gonna do? hire more securities than there are cashiers right now?

>>57859614
In that case what's stopping you from flash mobbing any other store?

>>57859634
Nothing.

Let's do it.

Lisen here m8. Wut wul hap'n if me walks into eet, tooks a bo'ole o'wore or a beear y'kno? an' dreenk eet? then pu'eet right on again, huh?

Why is Amazon making a grocery store instead of bringing the food to me?

>>57854302
>no seriously

why did they feel the need to add that, what happened to minimalism and professionalism in advertisements.

>>57859614
They have Amazon drones hovering above armed with machine guns patrolling the store for undesirable behavior.

>>57854302
how do you take guests with you?
will my wife's son also have to scan his phone when we go shopping?

>>57859657
Where you live? I live in Glen burnie maryland, there's a 7/11 I'd really love to steal chips from

>>57859705
You store them in the state of the art wife and child beater, who beats them for you untill you are ready to walk out.

>>57856914

Nah man super fusion sensors will know if you only leave the store with the 1 thing and won't charge you until it knows what you left with.

but I don't have a phone.
will I starve to death?

>>57859590
This, I can already see peoples' codes getting leaked online and being printed out.

So, whats the bad part of this?
I mean, sure it's overcomplicating, and making a lot of undergraduates lose their jobs, but, where's the dystopia?
The government knowing where you spend your money and on what? Do you think credit cards don't do that already?

>>57859854
i don't use credit cards, i only use burner pre-paid cards. that I register under my dead uncles name.

>>57854373
I have crippling depression

>>57854373
I have terrible fever mixed with schizophrenia

I can't use anything like this, I'm a loser who still uses a flip phone.

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>>57859592
>bbc
HOW DARE YOU FUCKING INSULT HARAMBE LIKE THAT REEEEEEEEEEEEE

>>57854302
So my guess is that they will have alarms and employees to make sure no one comes in without their phone on, you have to scan the items with your phone, and if you shoplift they can hunt you down, and the account must have a verified credit card.

Problems:
the stores are going to be expensive as hell and you still have to wait in line for people to scan their phones plus scan your own shit

>>57858899
What if a their steals your wallet and empties your bank account?

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>>57854373
>>57860063
xDddd le idobz!!!

>>57854302
>implying people aren't already frustrated with self scan lines in grocery stores
>implying normies like talking to a computer more than a person
My city just started reopening old call centers because we got sick of dealing with flaky call computers.

>>57854302
will they revoke my Prime membership if i pee in the aisles?

>>57856040
I will get charged to your Amazon account. After you checked in it doesn't matter if your phone in on our off.

ibm did it 10 years ago famalia

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eob532iEpqk

>>57860296
Autism

>>57860375
The amazon commercial is so cucked compared to this one

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>>57860318
Are you lost?
Here let's find your parents together

>>57857765
Wow, way back when, someone had the foresight to say that in the future facial recognition technology will be a thing and got everyone to where these. Max terrorist skills.

>>57860375
holy kek that was a fantastic commercial

why don't they make them like these lmao

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>>57860375
stole a pack of gum from walmart before. It felt exactly like this commercial

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holy fuck the whole pretend to be stupid shit sometimes gets in on my nerve

do you fucking pajeets really think there will be some weak ass turnstile shit you can just jump over to enter the store?

There will be a fucking glass door to prevent shoplifters from even leaving the store, the whole thing will be rigged to become a containment cell if needed, that shit on the commercial was just an example.

>>57860375
That was pretty awesome tbhfam.

Is it just me, or does it seem like IBM has always been ahead of the curve in the potential technology market, but later companies like Apple, Microsoft, Amazon, and others have simply taken and just refined to make it more marketable in today's current tech culture/climate?

Who know's what kind of research IBM's doing that isn't public and who knows how far ahead of it's time it is.

>>57858521
jobs are a thing of the past, only the elite will have jobs in the future

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>>57856197
>the Note 7s were the preliminary test

>>57858386
like with an axe

>>57856705
>and they'll forget
oh you

>>57862134
Amazon probably licensed it from IBM to make this
>>57862363
>most stores only have 5 cashiers
>only about two are even on the clock at once

This will only cause the shit to be released and the good to be put on other jobs

>>57856772
that can happen literally anywhere

>people laughed at me when I said smartphones would eventually replace out wallets
>already signs of it happening

>>57854302
>cyberpunk dystopia
>bad
>he doesn't want to use his ICEHAX omnitool to bypass the mainframe's firewall
>he doesn't want to hide jump drives up his asshole to run information
>he doesn't want to wear a gas mask and mohawk combo while chewing death sticks
>he doesn't want to hack corpcuck avatars to turn their augmented faces into giant asses
baka desu senpai

Lol just imagine the reaction around here when google announces the lens by 2020

>>57856993
obviously not, this will be the one thing they will be avoiding

>>57856772
You have to have a valid phone or a swipe card to even enter.

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>>57857137
then I'll go in a Braveman costume

>>57858631
What are you talking about? Show me an image

>>57858631
so did you steal microscopes from your university or ir illuminators and acogs from the army?

If we automate all entry level jobs(labor, fast food, grocery store anything, etc), then free university/technical school and universal/guaranteed minimum income will need to be a thing. Otherwise we would need to start grouping highschool students into what they would be good at/interested in and start teaching specific skills early. What do you guys think?

>>57857542
this actually isn't to bad, Earth gets a happy ending, they'll just have to genetically modify their children not to be greedy cunts or they'll wipe themselves out too

>>57857557
I've been imaging this super frequently lately

>>57859592
it's literally only going to be available in America

>>57858660
retard

>>57862855
but thats right you fucking retard

>>57856506
an oxymoron if ever i heard one

>>57858660
So the store is filled to the brim with cameras

>>57854302
>go to mom pop store
>almost no queue

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>>57857154
>turnstile doors slam on your balls accompained by violent alarm sounds

>>57858660
> computer vision

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>>57854302
>go into store with several friends
>start making random movements and creating chaos around us as a group
>gay ai loses its shit and cannot track us anymore
>everyone picks something up and checks if added to cart
>the guy who doesn't get anything added loots the damn place
>?????
>Profit!

>>57858465
7.1 on my S4 senpai

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>How to derail thread 101

seriously all of you back to >>>/pol/

>>57855865
yeah man, all those third worlders that come here on visas to work at supermarkets