Youtube's design has changed. Again.

The flatness is impressively digusting.

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The worst is the scrubber on YT's mobile API. Look at where the maximize button is. Can't tell you the number of times I've hit the end of the video instead

>>57823562
Haven't seen white youtube in a while. Doesn't your eyes pain with all that bright white color. Just use stylish to apply some dark css.

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>>57823562

>>57823562
every single change is like cancer growing exponentially

>>57823856
Worst part is that they have a meme counter-arguement:
>People "always" hate change

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>>57823562

>>57823897
They used to say that for Windows 8. And it was stuck at 3,5% market share.

mpv+youtube-dl's design has not changed :^)

>>57823562
Literally nothing wrong with minimal or flat design.

Clutter on a page and using every pixel of space makes a page ugly and hard to navigate.

>>57824534
Why dont we go back to plain html days then, huh? I'm for it - even less clutter and easier navigation.

>>57823562
I kinda like it t b h. I just don't like that misaligned search bar.

I work at Google. Everything is pretty disorganized. Nobody seems to know why anyone does anything. I can frequently get away with doing nothing for weeks, even months, at a time. Good benefits though!

because Apple steals all their designers.

>>57823740
i feel you

>>57824852

Does that have anything to do with not being evil and balancing your workload with a ratio of personal projects

>>57823562
Makes me wish there was a P2P alternative to YouTube that's similar to Popcorn Time. Youtube went to shit the second they got rid of the star ratings.

>>57823740
that, and the worse is that it auto skips the video on mobile

>>57824890
>not being evil

They don't say that anymore,and for good reason.

>>57823842
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3_9QY7m9SxQ

>>57824852
google is daycare for smart people

>>57823562
>flat design cancer
I really want to know what made big companies decide for us that we suddenly wanted flat design. What started it? Was it Windows 8? At the very least, that's when I first noticed it. How do we make it stop?

>>57824890
I don't think "Don't be evil" is still a corporate slogan, although I've only been here for two years. They have other weird corporate lingo instead, though. They unironically talk about "being Googley." If you're a new Googler, you're a "Noogler." If you have a dog, you're a "Doogler." If you're gay, you're a "Gaygler." If you're old, you're a "Graygler." They call stretching "taking a gPause." I promise I'm not making any of this shit up.

20% projects aren't measured in any real way. I have a "20% project" and I basically told my team "I'm gonna work on this" and they said "OK." Last week I didn't work on it at all, next week I'll probably work on it more.

>>57824960
Pretty much. But it's daycare for smart people that allows me to own a nice flat in the city.

>>57825023
>I promise I'm not making any of this shit up.
Somehow, I'm not surprised in the least.

>>57825023
>If you're gay, you're a "Gaygler."

If you're black are you a niggler?

>>57823562
Empty space is bad, but I don't see the problem.
Also, it looks different to me, not as bad as in the OP image.

>>57825058
I knew going in not to buy into hype since I've worked at this kind of company before, but they're way more cult-like than I was expecting.

Whenever someone tells a new employee to "ask someone what it means to be Googley" I just bite my tongue, laugh in my head, then take an incredibly expensive nap.

>>57825104
I doubt that would fly obviously, but it's basically whoever starts a club/mailing list for whatever group first.

There's also a thing called "memegen" which is just an internal tool for posting text over images that get shared internally.

>>57825184
>I doubt that would fly obviously


>There's also a thing called "memegen" which is just an internal tool for posting text over images that get shared internally.

Good lord that's cancerous. I was working with a guy in the field from Google who was trying to explain basic shit to me in a completely condescending way before we even started working. He also used the phrase "touch base" like three thousand times in the two hours he was around me. The whole thing was very off-putting. I could practically smell the creepy corporate culture on him.

>>57825328
Didn't intend to quote that first line. Just ignore that.

>>57824957
they are very honest :)

>>57825328
Yeah there's a lot of weird corporate stuff. The worst people are the ones who have only ever worked at Google. They usually go all-out and participate in all the corporate events (even the ones without free booze).

The people who have worked at other tech giants (Oracle, MIcrosoft, Facebook, Amazon, IBM, etc.) seem to recognize it for what it is, which is a company that has a lot of boring work (unless you're lucky), disorganized management, and an obsessive company culture, but pays reasonably well, has fantastic benefits, and doesn't micromanage you.

Either way it's better than my last job, but I'm just chilling until I find the right place to go next.

>>57823740
So glad I'm not the only one.

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>>57825023
>If you're gay, you're a "Gaygler

Who fucking cares.

>>57825104
>If you're black are you a niggler?

kek hard,
my sides

>archer

You deserve it.

Don't give a shit. I watch yt videos in mpv and reading comments is for fucktards.

Guy posting Google inside stories - just wanted to say it's pretty interesting so thanks for doing that.

>>57823740
>>57824879
>>57824945
>>57825493
>not using NewPipe

>>57825023
You are literally smurfs

I don't understand what flat design is or why it's bad.

>>57824852
>>57825023
>>57825184
>>57825490
>>57825538

holy kek my sides

the memes are real

>>57825584
What's Newpipe?

>>57823562
Have you thought that these simple layouts might actually work for normal people that dont sperg out over trivial shit like you?
Take a look at google search site. Empty space everywhere. Literally nothing on the whole page and yet its the most popular page going.

>>57825577
Glad you're enjoying it.

>>57825617
Perhaps.

The other thing I guess I didn't mention is that they hate moonlighting/personal projects/etc. They have a very intense non-compete, which applies to anyone outside of California. Employees outside of CA cannot contribute to OSS or release anything that could be considered in their market (which is pretty much everything) while employed at Google.

So obviously I'm not working on any development projects right now.

>>57825023
> I've only been here for two years
Is that you, moot?

>>57825650
Flat design is the absolute lack of 3D effects, including such things as gradients, rounded corners, and anything that might make something "pop out." Individual, solid colors and perfect rectangles only. It's bad because it's boring and ugly. In high school, my web design teacher actually made us do a project with flat design because it's "the way of the future."

>>57825676
>Literally nothing on the whole page and yet its the most popular page going
Because there never needed to be anything on the whole page, retard. YouTube is much more complex, needing the video itself, related videos, the description, and the comments. Leaving a lot of empty space and forcing the user to scroll for more content is just a stupid design choice.

>>57825707
I'm not moot but I missed his speech when he came to visit my office and will forever regret it.

>currently have some horrible bug causing people to lose subscribers in large numbers
>lets fix the UI

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>>57825675
>what your mom got last night

https://github.com/TeamNewPipe/NewPipe
https://f-droid.org/repository/browse/?fdid=org.schabi.newpipe

>>57825804
>A lightweight Youtube frontend for Android.
but I don't use Android at all

>>57825826
Then that post doesn't concern you.

How the fuck does a website make itself continuously worse with every new update?

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>>57825732
>Flat design is the absolute lack of 3D effects, including such things as gradients, rounded corners, and anything that might make something "pop out."
We need to get balls deep into it and get rid of colors at all.

Flat design makes me feel dead inside, to be honest.

>>57825858
whatever team manages youtube is horrible at their jobs?

>>57823562
Reminder that it's part of the NWO protocol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hY0PaHhYKPI

>>57825795
>he thinks that's a bug

>>57825858
Youtube is led by a woman :^)

>>57825876
Does this picture blink for anyone else when scrolling up and down?

>>57825909
if its not a bug its bad algorithm design

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>>57823562
No It Hasn't

>>57825887
>4 hours
tl;dr pls.

>>57825876
What I dislike about flat design is that it should be lightning fast. "Draw a blue box here" is an absolutely trivial function for any computer made within the last 30 years, yet these UIs a fucking huge in terms of their footprint on the system.

>>57824338
*mpsyt + mpv + youtubdl
ftfy

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>>57825929
>cringy framk

>>57825925
>>57825795
>surely people aren't tired of watching my shitty videos and unsubscribing from my lame ass channel

Stay delusional.

>>57825967
GMail is slow as shit too. I should switch back to using a desktop email client.

>>57824995
I feel it was an overreaction to Scott Forstall taking the skeuomeme too far. They ousted him and at the same time Microsoft actually did something different (albeit terrible) by debuting their flat design. Apple doubled down on flat, once in response to Microsoft and showing they could do it """"better"""" and once to indicate a departure from Forstall. As is often with the case with these things, the response gathered inertia and became it's own more powerful meme and you see the situation today - 'authentically digital' cancer.

Actually I've noticed analogous overreactions in other aspects of global culture. One that particular irks me is the T H I C C meme which to me is a response to the heroin chic look that proceeded it. Kate moss as the figurehead on a diet of cocaine and champagne only to be replaced by an army of silicone """""enhanced"""" booties led by nicki memenaj on another slutwalk: you sure showed us gals

Dynamical systems oscillating out of control with the desire for shekels as the driving force.

>>57825982
in the thousands? per video uploaded?

>>57825982
I'm pretty sure it's real but people have been reporting incidents like this for years now and I've never been affected by it.

Same with that subscriber burn thing where you apparently don't get notified when someone uploads a video if you haven't been watching their videos in a while.

>>57826134
subscriber burns a real thing n it sucks

>>57825858
It's kinda insane if you think about it.

Especially because more and more gaming youtubers, as in the biggest group of youtubers, are switching to Twitch and stuff like vid.me and streamable is also getting used a lot by normal users now.

They've been sitting on their monopoly for a long time now but I honestly think youtube could potentially lose a lot of users soon if they don't start making some good features again.

>>57826025
>Actually I've noticed analogous overreactions in other aspects of global culture. One that particular irks me is the T H I C C meme which to me is a response to the heroin chic look that proceeded it. Kate moss as the figurehead on a diet of cocaine and champagne only to be replaced by an army of silicone """""enhanced"""" booties led by nicki memenaj on another slutwalk: you sure showed us gals

I disagree. You're looking at this from a sociological perspective, but I think it has more to do with biology. Before the whole 'brazilian buttlift' technology, you just didn't have that many women who had these outlandishly huge butts on otherwise thin frames. But now these procedures allow women to 'hack' mens' biology, in the sense that they can now achieve proportions that would otherwise only be present in an incredibly small percentage of genetic freaks.

>>57826163
The funniest thing is, twitch is the worst designed site in a very long time. For fucks sake, only THIS YEAR was html5 vid implemented AT ALL.

>>57824852
>>57825023
i know someone who works there, as a "tech support" for some weird service.
he literally does fuck all for days while getting $55k

>>57826025
>Actually I've noticed analogous overreactions in other aspects of global culture.

You just noticed one of the most common patterns in mankind, your mom must be proud

>>57826238
Not that guy but everything you said also has a societal effect, women trying to be more attractive to their potential partners is an essential part of societal relations between genders, also don't forget that cocaine diet models provoked criticism which led to the media trying to get PR points via criticizing fashion standards which "caused" anorexia on young girls and that also contributed to the thicc meme.

>>57825929
Your entire screen is wasted space

>>57825023
If you're a new Googler, you're a "Noogler." If you have a dog, you're a "Doogler." If you're gay, you're a "Gaygler." If you're old, you're a "Graygler."
So it's basically like 4chan calling everyone a somethingfag, only slightly less homophobic and infinitely more obnoxious?

>>57826554
pretty much

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>>57823897

>>57824829
There's a lot of things misaligned on that page. Like why is the video title offset down from the bottom of the video player by like 2.5em

>>57826280
HTML video players are garbage.

>>57823562
>not using a custom dark CSS
get cucked faget

>>57826750
But far superior than what was previously available. :)

>Archer
>Fun

>>57824762
A man can dream.... But I guess you meant it as a bad thing eh 20-something faggot?

>>57824762
This is the retarded thing about modern design.

A huge bloated mess...To do absolutely nothing.

>those faggots who upload somethign they didn't make
>put a 2minute long dubstep intro
>then comment about so happy they are for getting 300k views

>>57825490
No wonder they're getting worse. I sort of respect their lack of micromanagement and easy going style, but it seems to only encourage fakes to join the culture and produce nothing innovative or useful.

They almost sounds like a technological aristocracy. If you know enough, and know the right people, you get to do whatever you want in a company that makes money off getting people's attention and tracking behavior.

>>57826025
That's fascinating. I always hated the flat design, and the 'modern' design of websites. They always feel somehow less easy to use, despite seeming more simplified. I can't get to where I want to go easily. It's like they don't want you to find any real information, but they're probably just shit at their jobs.

>>57825560
>he doesn't shitpost in YouTube comments sections
what a Noogler

>>57825023
Apple is the same way. If you're a new Appler, you're a "Nappler". If you have a dog, you're a "Dappler". If you're old, you're a "Grappler". If you're gay, you're an "employee".

>>57827178
not funny

Their recommended videos feed is total cancer.

>>57827178
>when he tries to drag on a joke
*cringe*

>>57827178
i thought it was funny

>>57823740
HAIIIIMEEEE RIVIEIRA

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Yep flat design is disgusting. Unfortunately Microsoft has gone down that path so now we are stuck with this shit at work.

Customization options for Outlook are now white or gray theme. That's it. Gray is pictured. It's literally so ugly it's performance impacting.

>>57823562
>>more flat design cancer
>>more useless empty space

What did you expect? The "muh flat design" cancer has been growing since at least 2012 and there's seemingly no end in sight. Everything is being made look like that, be it web content, OS GUIs, or applications.

>>57823562
Flat is much easier to throw together by Pajeet or some kiddo, and way cheaper effectively than hiring a competent graphic/web designer. The fact that these "flat" websites are usually slow as molasses is another proof that they're being made by incompetents.

>>57824534
Let me guess, you love chiclet keyboards too and were born 1995 or later.

>>57823740
Forget that, it's the least accurate scrubber ever programmed.

>>57824534
Use the wayback machine to see how websites lookes approximately 2003-2008. That was the best period for web design.

>>57824852
I'd guess that at some point people working at Google (especially managers) thought that the very fact that they work there makes them absolutely amazing, no matter what they actually do (or don't do). As the company is making huge bucks on advertising anyway due to its unprecedented market position (has been a self-propelling machinery since at least a decade already if not longer), everyone is just coasting along and feeling good about themselves.

>>57828943
what would you recommend in your opinion some good websites to do that on?

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Why the fuck aren't you guys using Youtube Center?
I haven't noticed any layout changes in eons because my window is actually taken up by the fucking video.

>>57828943

In that era the good sites were primo, but the shit...the shit was really shit.

it was an era of extremes. now that the bar has risen, even shit is average shit, but now there is a ton of it, and most webdevs fall into the same shit design memes

>>57825023
>If you're old, you're a "Graygler"

Let me guess, that means "you're past 30".

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Looks fine to me

>>57827178
This is a truly underrated post.

>>57825676
>Take a look at google search site. Empty space everywhere. Literally nothing on the whole page and yet its the most popular page going.

>provides a corner case which has always been like that and which doesn't have any actual content of its own besides a search field anyway as a valid example

Get over it holy shit.

3d buttons, grandients and using all available space is not coming back.

Companies want a consistent design across all plattforms. 10 years ago smartphones as we know them today did not exist and the main way to access the internet was using a desktop computer.
Web design was still changing on a yearly basis, sometimes grandients were popular and trendy and then the next year it was glossy 3d buttons again. As it looks right now, web design is moving towards simplistic, mimimal UI placement which gives you basic navigations elements using few colors and a lot of contrast telling you exactly what button does what. Instead of putting as much of functionality in as little as possible space, only give the user what he uses 90% of the time and hide all other functionality behind extra buttons.

You guys need to understand.. While these changes may look awful and pointless to you tech savy guys. The average normie will be totally fine with it and appreciate bigger and more colorful buttons.

Is it so hard to understand that you guys are the minority?

>>57829138
>Is it so hard to understand that you guys are the minority?
I'm a woman though..

>>57828982
Try some large corporation webpages first, like Microsoft, Intel, etc., then some major news sites maybe.

>>57829022
Shit is always shit no matter how you look at it, duh. But in the mentioned period web design was already mature and out of the 90s babby period, there was also more processing power available on the typical Pentium 4/XP desktop so that more complex, but still well-optimized pages could work efficiently. Then after 2007 things kinda started to get worse (maybe the tryhard-"modern" UIs introduced with Vista and the original iPhone were a factor here), and then since 2012 (hello "Metro") it just all went down the shitter.

>>57825929
sure it has

document.cookie="VISITOR_INFO1_LIVE=RUWSKDdhiaM"

>>57829161
LONDON

>>57829138
>The average normie will be totally fine with it and appreciate bigger and more colorful buttons.

This is a moot argument, as those you're talking about are mere sheep who were conditioned to "appreciate" whatever is being thrown at them. Those who are pushing it on to everyone are the driving force here, not the normie masses who are going to be fine with anything really as they don't think too much about stuff and don't have any real preferences except to associate with whatever is being considered "modern" or "fashionable" at a given time.

>>57829105
Do you have a link to that css?

>>57829298
Yes, you can hate Microsoft all you want but their mid-00s website was a great example of functional, efficient, and pleasant-looking web design. Those were times when some sensible people were still working there.

>>57823562
I knew they were going to get worse when they adopted card design for mobile youtube

>this is what retards ITT consider "good design"
https://web.archive.org/web/20030624112341/http://microsoft.com/

>>57829497
cont.
https://web.archive.org/web/20030623163917/http://intel.com/

fucking hell, no wonder you guys are all backend weebs, you literally CANNOT into design. Even more pathetic than webdevs who need 500 frameworks for a simple static site.

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>>57827178
10/10

>>57829497
>>57829512
>can load and function without JS
>Takes insignificient time to load elements
>Actually functional
>Does'nt waste space

>not good

Realtek has the best wenbsite of modern internet

>>57829538
I mean, that was barely in English. Care to try again?

>>57825023
I thought you had to be trolling but it looks like you're actually serious...

http://meiert.com/en/blog/20130812/googliness/

I honestly don't know how to feel.

>>57828762
>DeLorme
How is it? I was looking at it for my Toughbook.

>>57829512
>>57829538
>he cherrypicked 2003 which still had a bit of a 90s tint to it just so he could say they were bad

Try the 2008 versions then:
https://web.archive.org/web/20080612030344/http://www.microsoft.com/en/us/default.aspx
https://web.archive.org/web/20080315095409/http://www3.intel.com/

They look better than the 2003 versions, but the general design principles are still the same - much well-organized and pleasantly-looking content within relatively little screen real estate, all working efficiently.

>>57829538
Yep, Realtek happens not to have given in to the flat design cuck and they keep their website true to the above principles.

>youtube 2030
>no videos or comments only flat blocks of color

>>57829547
>I can't refute his points so I'll attack the few typos he made instead

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>>57825929

>>57825584
>cant check subs

The fuck do you think i use YouTube for?
Get serious kiddie, convenience exists for a reason.

>>57829666
I know, it's ridiculous. That's why I said "I promise I'm not making any of this shit up" but of course a troll would say the same thing.

>>57823562
>more useless empty space
If you don't understand the use for empty space you have no right to talk about design and should honestly kill yourself.

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>>57829762

I don't know guys, as much as I dislike modern flat design, some of the older designs just don't work out very well anymore, especially when browsing via a phone or tablet. And I know, >phone or tablet, but you cannot deny that they're a big part of the world now and so websites have to be designed accordingly.

A lot of these older sites after checking them out feel like they puke out a lot of information at you right from the homepage, which is very nice if you're familiar with where you're going, but is still unwelcoming.

Man, rose-tinted glasses are one hell of a drug, navigating some of these places is very difficult on my phone just to zoom in to click links. Would be miles easier on a desktop, however.

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>>57823562
>isn't using stylish

>>57829934
see you might have a point if these websites weren't also all bloated crap that even higher end phones struggle to display sometimes
if you ask me, pinching and zooming beats tapping part of a screen only to have something different immediately load underneath your finger because the page was still in the middle of loading seventeen javascript libraries

>>57830027
Yeah, I absolutely agree with you there.

I think good website design just boils down to incorporating necessary new elements fit for the modern world while maintaining as much practicality the older designs had: basically a middle ground.

To say that older websites were a pinnacle of design still completely and 100% functional today (some really are just plain outdated) is just a bit of an overstatement I was seeing from this thread, is all.

But that begs the question: is modern design really who should get all the blame or is it just bloat?

I reckon again, it's almost always somewhere between the two in a painfully frustrating combination.

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Youtube Plus in theater mode with the ugly black sidebars hidden with ublock.
If I drag the window smaller the video frame will scale to remain visible.

>>57829740
>still ugly as fuck and a cluttered mess
>wahh ur just cherry picking
lmao ok, pass whatever the fuck you're smoking

>>57827178
toppest fucking kek

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Why the fuck is jewtube putting the subs in the middle of the screen when nothing is at the bottom

>>57825921
yeah

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>>57823562
When you get to the master level of design you are allowed to break the rules. Something like this must be impossible for you to understand of course.

>>57825530

>>57830384
you can move the captions with your cursor dumbass

>>57823562
They change it so often I don't even notice or give a shit anymore

>>57829016
Nice music choice

>>57823740
Fuck, same

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can't even close this shit

>>57831529
This shit, right here
Why

>>57823562
Is this why half of YouTube's videos don't fucking play at all now?

I've been watching shit through mpv because nothing fucking loads on YouTube anymore.

>>57827218
>>57827238
applefags please leave

>>57823842

for me, it appears in the bottom left corner

so much fucking white space also by the way. They should make a "dark mode"

>>57827178
Applefags BTFO

Damage control happening already kek

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Not for me it hasn't.

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>>57829138
>Is it so hard to understand that you guys are the minority?

Are we? Ever since 2013, YouTube has been getting very vocal criticism from a significant portion of the userbase about layout designs and video algorithms.

>>57829817
I-i don't think i have the autism level to spend the time required to compile such a picture.
This is some high wizard level autism.

Imagine if everyone who didn't like something found or created a better alternative. Perhaps 99% of Internet users wouldn't be dependent on 5 websites.

>>57825023
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gayglers
HOLY FUCKING SHIT
TOP JEJ

>>57832617
>video algorithms.

You mean you don't like getting recommended nothing but top 10 videos after accidentally clicking on one once?

>>57829138
>As it looks right now, web design is moving towards simplistic, mimimal UI placement which gives you basic navigations elements using few colors and a lot of contrast telling you exactly what button does what. Instead of putting as much of functionality in as little as possible space

Except, they can't even fucking do it right.

See:
>>57823740

>>57824852
Is that you moot?

>>57823562
it's not flat design, it's material design
material design is good looking, I'm still using the material design april fools CSS from last year's april fools, it looks good and whenever I go on Youtube I always change it to the material design version because it's that good

>>57827218
>>57827238
>cucked applefags
>>57827304
it was

>>57832744
"material design" is even worse than the glossy and gradient trend from 10 years ago

>>57829138
>Is it so hard to understand that you guys are the minority?
t. underageb& who discovered youtube yesterday

You'd shit yourself if you saw the huge shitstorm when YouTube let Viacom and other copyright bullshit start taking down videos,

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>>57827178
Except that Google, owner of Youtube, employs more gays than Apple. And not only that, Google is pushing gay rights across the world. Google also featured gay people on official Android YT channel and they even aired a TRANNY commercial during the superbowl.

When it comes to faggotry, Google's the king, not Apple.

>>57832744
>material design is good looking
Yeah it's good looking on phones and tablets. Not on computers.

Why not use livestreamer already?

>>57833528

Not working with 60fps video.

>>57832825
Gradient trend wasn't completely awful
Gloosy was
So does flat

>>57833585
Alternatives?

>>57832617
God damn did it really look like that? That actually looks quite nice. Flatshit is a fucking tragedy.

>>57829138
>As it looks right now, web design is moving towards simplistic, mimimal UI placement
Yep, that's why pages load up to a megabyte per one kilobyte of relevant content.
made me reply/10

>>57829740
It's not like 2003 version is bad

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>>57823740
Not a problem on iOS where there is actual quality control

youtube pls

There has to be a classic YouTube theme through Stylish or Greasemonkey. Does anyone know of one?

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It hasn't changed for me yet.

>>57829762
>dunkey
got significantly better since he dropped league
>mega64
super hit-or-miss, but the hits keep me around

other than that, completely agree with the rest of the chart

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>>57825974
Who is Tyler Durdon?

>>57825795
That's not a bug, haven't you noticed who are affected by the bug? Removing subscribers from free thinkers, truth-tellers and politically incorrect media isn't done by accident.

>>57831529
This is so fucking annoying and you can't even turn it off

Google is ruining everything at the moment

>go on youtube
>see annotations
>find obfuscated setting to permanently disable annotations
>disable annotations
>annotations are gone!

Two weeks later, the process repeats...

Fuuuck annotations

>>57826859
Remember when faggots like you didn't pipe up about what they saw with their nostalgia glasses? Use a different css, gramps.

>>57823740
Same

>>57823842
how to reverse it? i wanted to check out the new design

>>57833715
>where there is actual quality control
Stay deluded

>>57832876
>damage control

You can leave and go to Dailymotion if you're not happy.

>>57837239
Try opening youtube in an incognito tab

>>57829762
>Funhaus
That's a stretch but sure

>>57839750
not him, but it doesn't work
opening from another browser doesn't work either

didn't try on virtual machine yet, I'll try it now and report back

>>57823562
You forgot to mention MORE FUCKING CIRCLES

Why the fuck did they decide turning everyone's avatars into circles was a good idea

>>57823740same, why they couldn't come up with better design?!

>>57840481
doesn't even work on a proxy on a virtual machine

fuck

>>57825920
that explains it

i mean, honestly i dont have anything against minimalistic design, it can look nice and it can work but jesus christ youtube is going to drop the ball too hard soon. the thing that i fear is that twitch is probably going to step in as the new youtube.