It's over, Linux and OSX are finished.

>>57777358
What is actually happening is that windows is a thing of the past. In a few years windows will just be another linux distro.

>>57777358
What about the network stack ?

Is it working ?

No ?

Then it's fucking useless.

>microdicks adds linux to windows
>linux is finished
are you really that retarded nigger?

EMBRACE
EXTEND
EXTINGUISH

WSL still cannot run in the background after you close the terminal

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>>57777358

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>>57777436
>>57777475
>buy laptop
>start windows
>enter one command
>linux is installed
>just werks

>buy laptop
>want to install loonix
>wifi doesn't work
>graphics driver hangs
>login window shows black screen
>grub refuses to find your installation
>fdisk can't find your disks
>all your files are split and inaccessible across ntfs/ext3

Loonix is literally finished. It's far easier to Linux under Windows than the other way around. And Linux under Windows is actually supported unlike Wine shit.

Anyways ubuntu is shit. htere is one and only one Linux disto - gentoo.

>>57777614
Fake Linux is linux.
Real Linux is loonix.

Quality post. You just listed your incapability.

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>>57777358

At least use something better than ubongo.

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>>57777805
>Nitpicking this hard.

>>57777839
Do you archfags even do anything besides use your meme distribution to shitposting and jerk it to loli animu?

Don't bother answering, it's all you're good for so it wouldn't be any surprise.

>>57777899
>implying he has any sane argument

>>57777614
On my pc is reversed but besides that people should buy hw compatible with their software preferences. That's why I bought ThinkPad.

>root by default
kek

>>57777916

I can smell you being a shit smeared mongoloid all the way here. The "Arch is for weebs" meme is just a meme after all. But I guess that is hard to understand for someone like you.

>>57777596
holy fuck that's cool. what x server?

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>>57778234

>>57778234
>It's not a meeeeeme
And yet your entire post was a string of them. No surprise.

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>>57778306
>>57778315

>>57778234
>The "Arch is for weebs" meme is just a meme after all

So it's just for shitposting then.

>>57777839
will this come to WIN7?

>>57778555
You're saying it as if it was a bad thing.

>>57777777

>>57778570
Of course not. Win7 is dead.

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>>57777358
wait. what am I looking at.. W10 has its own VM? ...I cant even

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>>57778234

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>>57778963

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>>57779034

>>57777614
>grub refuses to find your installation
p.l.e.b.
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>>57778919
it's not emulated :^^^)))))

>>57778234
how do i rice arch anime style? any guides out there that you know of?

hey OP do me a favor, and just try typing in "ip"


oh, bummer, it doesn't work.

try pinging google.


oh, bummer, it doesn't work without root privileges.

>>57778919
Hyper-V has been part of windows since server 2008

What you're looking at is built in linux kernel emulation

>>57779187

>Using bash to do things you could just do with the command prompt

>>57779187
cmd exists for the time being, this isn't supposed to be a complete replacement
but pls continue your jealousy over software is pretty amazing

>>57779078
How do you live with this font rendering? Seriously, does it not drive you insane?

>>57777358
running linux on windows is nice but you still have the windows part, so it sucks.

>>57779266
>Using windows to do things you could just do with GNU/Linux

>>57779266
>windows user advocating for minimalism

>>57777358
Too bad apt-get is garbage

>>57777614
>>buy laptop
>>want to install loonix
>>wifi doesn't work
>>graphics driver hangs
>>login window shows black screen
>>grub refuses to find your installation
>>fdisk can't find your disks
>>all your files are split and inaccessible across ntfs/ext3
>things that never happen unless you're retarded

>>57777614
What you're saying barely makes any sense. Please stop pretending like you know what you're talking about.

>>57777358
Any association to Windows is too much.

>>57777614
>ext3
I guess that shows how stale that part of the pasta is

>>57777614

Why are you so retarded? End your life.

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>>57777596

>Isaac

>>57777596
>windows user
>hebrew name
Checks out

>>57779411
>using windows to do things
Yes because it (alongside MacOS) are the only productive operating systems.

>>57779314
no. big fonts drive me insane.

>>57777777

>>57777839
Bilde ich mir das ein, oder ist dein Font Rendering anders?

>>57777358

This whole "Ubuntu bash on Windows!" thing is utterly retarded.

> It's not a VM! It's really running natively!
> Oh, cool, so you can access the filesystem natively, unlike for example, Cygwin?
> Uh, well, no. You have to access the filesystem through a special path, just like in Cygwin or a VM's shared folders.
> Oh, okay. Well, then, you must be able to interact with Windows' processes and run Windows executables.
> Uh, well, no. You can't do either of those things.
> Wait, so if I have 'git' installed on Windows, I have to install a separate 'git' under "Ubuntu bash for Windows"?
> Well, yeah. We like to think of it as giving you OPTIONS!
> Well what the fuck. How is this functionally ANY DIFFERENT from simply running Linux in a VM on Windows and turning on shared folders?
> Oh, it's very different! For example, you can't take advantage of the complete isolation. Also, you can't install any apt-compatible package.

It's so shit I can't believe they bothered making it a thing. I'm convinced the only reason it exists is to fool dumbass middle managers.

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>>57778963
lol someone saved the shoop

>>57781409
>Oh, okay. Well, then, you must be able to interact with Windows' processes and run Windows executables.
You can with the insider builds.

>>57781486

Oh, so they're finally adding something that should have been in there from the get-go?

It *might* actually prove to have some minor value in the Windows ecosystem now? Hurrah. Now if only they'd stop weaseling around shit like this in their release statements and interviews.

They literally told Hanselman that the whole multiple-copies-of-git thing was "giving you options". Absolute bullshit.

>>57781930
I'm not sure what you expect. It's still tagged beta. If you check the changelog it gets updated just about every build.

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>>57777358
Yeah it isn't like we had Cygwin for ages or anything

>>57777839
How did you do this?

>>57781409
You're a fucking idiot and probably a liberal arts major.

Linux Services for Windows differs from Cygwin, VMs, and MinGW/Git For Windows.

They're translating POSIX syscalls on the fly to their NT equivalents. That takes a lot of engineering skill that you will never have.

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>>57777358
What are they going to do?

>>57781985
It a photoshop, jew?

I updated windows 10 and enabled developer settings. How do i get it working? I can't find it in the windows store

>>57782082
Add the feature then type bash in run.

>>57777436
Winblows will be the most stable distro

>>57782231
It's funny because it's true.

>>57781998
BSD has been doing this for years with their Linux compatibility kernel modules and base packages. It's far from a new technology. There's zero difference between "translating POSIX syscalls on the fly", and an executable interpreter that translates Linux-specific functions to shims/wrappers added to the kernel symbol table via loadable module. On top of that, the BSD method allows Linux programs to interact natively with the file system, since they're running as regular BSD processes! They can be niced and backgrounded just like anything else, unlike the Windows solution.

The way this is being pitched is that it's some fancy new genius technology that's completely different from anything else, which is bullshit. It's not even as functional as a simple Hyper-V setup interacting over a local loopback interface.

>>57777436
the sad thing is that I believe you are really that delusional

>>57782421
Yes but your average wangblows user is too stupid to understand 90% of what you just said.

>>57782571
The main argument I could see in defense of the Windows solution is how they handled the differences in thread and process control. It's not as bad as it used to be with the work done on Services for Unix back when Microsoft acquired Interix; before that, there was no practical way to implement a proper COW fork() call in Windows. Cygwin had to grapple with this and ultimately used a rather complicated solution that still wasn't quite the same. Nowadays you can use ZwCreateProcess() in kernel mode to achieve something roughly similar to a real fork() , though you still have to carefully check for any inconsistencies once the process is spun off. Microsoft kernel developers are the best people to tackle something like that.

>>57782893
Hodor

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>>57777436
Does this mean all of my gaymen will be possible on a Linux distro and I won't have to use Windows anymore?

>>57782421
You're being extremely disingenuous here.

The reason why the Linux compatibility layer is more integrated into BSD is that fundamentally both are POSIX-compliant. Both are SysV descendants. It's a lot less work to have interop between different flavors of Unix (Solaris has been doing this forever) than it is to have the same on Windows.

>>57778234
Weebs and l33t h4xx0r teenagers, o f course.

>>57777596
oy vey

>>57784032
>all of my gaymen
slut

>>57777358
>It's over, Linux and OSX are finished.
What? Again? So soon?

>>57777358
There's no gnome.

>>57784032
If they ported DirectX and such, maybe. Otherwise you'll still struggle to run legacy titles. That's basically the current GNU/Linux situation. A ton of new releases actually support GNU/Linux, but hardly anything old gets ported. There are also entire companies being faggots, such as Bethesda. They own the rights to Doom and Quake now, both games have GNU/Linux ports, however these ports are not on Steam. I wonder how much Microsoft pays them.

>>57782571
lol now that you mention it's so fucking jargoney.

>>57777358
Is this in official updates or still just for beta testers?

>>57784659

Windows 10 Anniversary Update

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>>57777358
>no CUDA support
Dropped so hard it broke the floor

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>>57784739
>using apis only supported by a single vendor

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>>57784764
>not using industry standard because muh jews
Boy, it's like you are a handholdless virgin neet or sumtin

>>57784764

Not my fault everything made for it is better than what AMD offers.

>>57777358
>Ubuntu 14.04

KEK

>>57777436
This. If Microsoft isn't careful, this might happen. Currently, if you want to write a native program or library in C or C++, you have a choice. Do you target the Windows API first or Unix-likes first? If you target the Windows API, you reach 90% of desktop users, but only one platform and you may end up hating yourself since the Windows API is so awful. If you target Unix-likes first, you only reach 10% of desktop users, but almost every other relevant platform and 99% of mobile users.

When Windows 7 is deprecated and most computers are running Windows 10, the answer to the above question becomes obvious. Of course you should target Unix-likes first and reach 100% of desktop users. WSL has no plans to support graphical software, but any software that runs in a terminal and/or primarily communicates over the network, including software dev, scientific programs and web dev tools will target Linux and Unix-likes, because you'd be crazy to target Windows and use a worse API to reach less users. When this happens, for certain classes of users, Windows will just be an inferior Linux distro.

>>57777614
Do people still have these problems? Or just retarded and don't know how to install linux, because can't read?
I had some problems with video drivers maybe... 5 years ago...
Tried several distros on my laptop - no issue.

>>57777358
>It's over, Linux and OSX are finished.

So let me get this straight: I can pay $200 for Windows to serve as a host for Ubuntu -- or I can pay $0 to use the exact same Ubuntu directly on the bare metal.

And from this I am supposed to conclude that Linux is "finished"?

>>57786300
Shitty argument. Windows 10 can be pirated very easily, or had for free though various ways.

Not to mention you get the insane amount of software only available on Windows 10.

It's also way easier to install than a regular distro. You can switch distros (like Arch) pretty easily in an upcoming update.

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>>57786300

The WSL is barely useful with its half assed posix shit in the NT. For the 3rd E they need a popular fork of ubuntu, without backward compatibility and that would need very heavy investment with questionable outcome as they failed hard with J# too.

>And from this I am supposed to conclude that Linux is "finished"?

>implying it's not a b8

>>57786413
>Windows 10 can be pirated very easily

Wow. The game changer.

>>57777614
/thread

>>57777614
You got that reversed. Windows has no drivers by default.

>>57787256
>it's le 2005 maymay

Linux has negative drivers then.

>>57777614
We aren't in 2002 anymore, gaymer.

My odroid think the other way..

>>57787256
>>57787313
>>57787334
>winfags and freetards STILL arguing about drivers in 2016

Macintosh doesn't have this problem. :^)

>>57787313
All debian distros has better drivers by default than wingblows.

>>57787387
>t. mactoddler

>>57787387
>t. mactoddler

>>57777614
I mean for me assuming you meant loonix as a proper linux install it was
>put linux on usb
>go into laptop bios
>set it to run usb first
>reboot
>set up linux to dual boot (didn't even know what I was doing, literal retard tier in that regard still worked)
>take out usb after booting ubuntu
>done
I'm a retard and could easily install linux what's difficult about it?

>>57777358
Curious, what is the point of this? Can it still do all the shit windows can with whatever linux can? or why would you bother instead of just installing one or the other?

>>57787575
It's just another translation layer, like WINE, Linuxulator, LXBrand, Darling, Lx86, et al.

>>57787313
>have to install ethernet drivers manually
>have to install graphics card drivers manually
>each time you plug in a device through USB for the first time drives have to be installed
Explain how Windows "has" drivers.
>2005
This has been a problem even after Windows Vista, kid. Stop spreading memes if you know nothing about Windows.

>>57787506
No it isn't.
>>57777358
Bash on windows is essentially just a party trick. You can't install desktop environments with it. You can't really do much with it at all, really. It's slightly pointless. It's a novelty.

>>57787558
You don't have to go into bios. Just hold F11 or whatever key is specific to your motherboard and choose which device you want to boot from.
I agree, installing an OS isn't any more difficult than installing any other software.

>>57787506
fuck off jordan

>>57777839
>Ghostery
DELETE THIS!

>>57787849
what's wrong with ghostery?

>>57787387
>t. mactoddler

>>57787900
Let the pleb be pleb.

>>57781985
Not him but: https://github.com/RoliSoft/WSL-Distribution-Switcher

>The purpose of this project is to let you easily download and install new Linux distributions under Windows Subsystem for Linux and seamlessly switch between them.

>The rootfs archives are currently downloaded from Docker Hub's official images' repositories ("source") or published image layers ("prebuilt").

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>tfw windows runs linux binaries faster than linux can

Just think of all the man hours gone in to linux, glibc, gcc and the millions of years of combined time wasted as each distro for 20 years has recompiling all this software over and over for 2 decades years...
only for Windows 10 to turn up to the club this year and slap and grab linuxs' gf ass like this? lmfao.

>>57787900
probably not that much, unless you opt in for Ghost Rank

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>>57787983
cool cherry picking bro

how about something that isn't a basic memory test?

>>57779483
>worked on my machine(tm) so it has to work on every machine
welcome newfriend
please read the sticky and refrain from posting until further notice

>>57777436
/thread

>>57788070
>compiling
Literally irrelevant, all Ubuntu packages exist. Also the file operations are all still in beta and the test was done with real time monitoring/protection of the lxss.

Perhaps you are retarded, I am sorry for that.

>>57777436
that is one filthy disgusting lens /g/ views the world through...

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hi im not an linux expert
so whit this i can use linux program on windows?

>>57788206
If you have to ask, you don't need linux.

the church of winblows is strong in here.. it's like i'm on reddit or something.

>>57788213
pls dont be edgy
im just curious about linux world and i want learn more about it
but im to lazy to make a dual boot

>>57788154
Not him but
>being this intellectually dishonest.

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>>57787983
>Intel Xeon E3-1280 v5 Skylake CPU
There you go. 4.4 has bugs with this cpu.

>>57788242
It's just a question of preference. You should try Linux by yourself. Start with an user-oriented distro like mint or ubuntu.

>>57777358

I guarentee windows fucks it up so its not as useful.

Still when sshing into everything this might be worth something.

Too bad Cygwin is already a thing.

Also too bad I still don't want to do business on windows 10 since I cant really know what telemetry sees and can do.

I wouldn't be surprised if the NSA uses it to grab security and encryption keys eventually. Also wont be surprised if they fuck up and the keys end up in the wild or coming back to bite people in the ass some other way.

>>57788278
>user-oriented
:^)

>>57777358
why? we've had ssh from windows to linux in years, this isn't really any better

>>57781370
Hab nix dran geändert. Benutze aber roboto in FF.

>>57788242

You can use the command line probably but getting linux programs to work on this is going to be a pain in the ass unless you get lucky or microsoft does the leg work first.

>>57782050
pleb

>>57788425

Embrace, extend, extinguish.

>>57777358
What's the point? You can't even edit linux files.

>>57787923
Interesting, but not exactly. I used this one. https://github.com/turbo/alwsl/tree/dev

>>57787489
>>57787494
>>57787909
t. samefag

>>57789531
>t. mactoddler

>>57777777

>>51777777

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>be me
>trying to get rid of cool matrix theme I had on Windows 10 in favor of a more subdued gray style
>can't get rid of the green icons
>use tango patcher to patch in some new ones
>now when I go to log in it kicks me immediately back to the login screen
>either I forgot how to get to safe mode or it is broken, keep jamming on F8 key during boot but no menu comes up
>come over to my Arch machine, which still works after changing icon themes

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>>57777839
>uptime 2 minutes
>browser running with root

>>57789616
>>be me
Found your problem.

>>57789654
Actually just uses a search engine, the key has changed to F4 for some reason.

>>57781998
>They're translating POSIX syscalls on the fly to their NT equivalents. That takes a lot of engineering skill that you will never have.

A bunch of neckbeards literally did it the other way around in their basements while at the same time reverse engineering Windows libraries because if they used regular ones Currysoft would sue them to high heaven.
It's called Wine buddy.

>>57788556
ok thx
its probably better use a VM

>>57789828
Indeed

>>57779314
>current year
>not being a hacker

>>57789573
t. freetard commie cuck

>>57791091
>t. mactoddler

>>57788081
>doesn't werk on my machine so it must not work on everyone elses

>>57789531
>>57791091
>t. mactoddler

>>57777358

>>57791198

>>57777614
/thread

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>>57778234
sure weeb

>>57777358
So will Linux actually be good and useful now that Microsoft are involved?

>buy new computer
>don't have to fuck with anything because the laptop and all its hardware/drivers made to work with windows actually work because you're actually running windows
>linux installs with one command

Based Salty Nutella.

>>57793073
Not even linux can redeem Microshaftpenis.

Unless Apple update their desktop range then OSX will become a mobile OS just for laptops, and professionals won't be able to use it anymore. Nobody wants to do intense tasks on a laptop. So OSX might be doomed to fail depending on what Apple does.

Linux will always be around for businesses and hobbyists, but it'll never be a big consumer OS.

Windows will be the market leader for a very long time.

>>57781409
An OS ***NEEDS** to be POSIX-compliant for it to be used in certain government work even today anon.

That's why they did this. They've had similar products for ages too.

>>57794044
>Gates is all in with Soros to stop Trump
>Trump reveals Windows spyware
>All of MS's federal contracts dry up
They'll be bankrupt inside of four years anon.

Remember how fast SGI and Sun and Thinking Machines and Cray and the rest all fell...

>>57777358
How did you change the shitty cmd.exe default terminal ?

>>57794044
>So OSX might be doomed to fail depending on what Apple does.
Oh, no. Apple is doomed.
Again.
Heard it all before. Back in the '80s.