IT'S HAPPENING

Only criminals need that shit anyways

How will they do it? Will they make ISPs flag certain IPs that are known to be Tor exit nodes or VPNs? Will they analyze the traffic for Tor/(Open)VPN traffic?

>>57740692
All the hacks they used on Tor users already depend on those Tor users being stupid and leaving JS enabled

Can I visit the USA if I run a fast, dedicated Tor node under my real name?

>>57740692
Good.
Tor = pedo & drug-user enabling software

What good ever came our of it?

>>57740762
usually only exit nodes attract official attention. When they do a form letter explaining "This is a Tor node, and I am not the person you're after, I don't know who he is, and I don't have any relevant information on the matter" is usually the end of it.

though I am curious why you'd make it easier for trouble to find you by using your real name with it

>>57740785
Snowden leaks
Manning leaks
LSD distribution, is good for all of humanity

>>57740787
>though I am curious why you'd make it easier for trouble to find you by using your real name with it
I just didn't bother and am running the on my company server

>>57740789
>implying Snowden was a good person
>hurr durr let's blow NSA spying way out of proportion and scare the sheeple
>now let's hide in Russia and suck off Putin

>>57740785
Unfortunately true. There are so little "legitimate" Tor users. I guess that happens to virtually every "privacy-first" project though, it gets co-opted by people who just want it for illegal purposes.

>>57740789
>LSD distribution, is good for all of humanity
DUDE DMT WILL MAKE U ENLIGHTENED , WATCH JOE ROGAN
WE LITERALLY LIVEING IN TEH METRIX

Good, you deserve it.

Government doesn't care if you are using a VPN to torrent. Shit sucks, but it will not effect anyone on /g/ in any meaningful way.

>>57740831
Psychedelics make it easier to distinguish between culture and reality.

>>57740692
Who cares. If you're not doing anything illegal, why are you worried?

>>57740692
> Seizing an encrypted computer for being connected to an encrypted network.
Good use of time, imo

>>57740859
Kys hippie

>>57740859
>between culture and reality.
what the fuck

>>57740725
>>57740785
>>57740866

I'm very curious how many of you folks are just trolling or shitposting, and how many of you really believe what you say.

If the latter, why?

>>57740879
Because I think the problem of pedophiles hiding behind Tor is a bigger and more widespread problem than the authorities abusing their power to control us.

>>57740879
I'm just shitposting but you guys deserve it. You could've came up with a better solution to combat mass surveillance by now. You have had YEARS to do something about it. And all you could come up with is encryption and putting tape on your webcam?
I have no respect for the tech people who complain about this anymore. You lost . might as well get used to it.

>>57740890
the ones running the government are actually literal pedophiles

>>57740890
Wew. I hope pedos die terrible sad, terrible deaths, as much as the next guy, but this is as near sighted as it gets.

>>57740879
More pedophiles and criminals use Tor than morally upright journalists (talk about oxymoron I guess) and government workers attempting to anonymously right wrongs. Given the nature of Tor you can't ONLY catch pedophiles and criminals, you have to get everyone or no one. Given who the majority of Tor users are, it's obvious which choice you ought to make.

>>57740692
I believe every word of this and you all should to.
Invest in icy docks. Whenever you go somewhere take your hard drives with you.
When the FBI come by to search and seize, it makes for a quick getaway: pull out hard drives and make a run for it.

With hacking news going on the tv nowdays it's kinda ok that their intentions are to stop cyber crimes. But to catch a few criminals it sucks it has to ruin the rights of the majority. To avoid this mess the person needs to change their habits a lot.

>>57740866
Sometimes the law needs to be broken. Weed, slavery, Activism


So the US is introducing a new law that will allow the FBI to hack and search any computer found using a VPN or Tor.
Just using a VPN or Tor = suspected of a crime and good reason to go after you.

>>57740913
>. You could've came up with a better solution to combat mass surveillance by now.
We kinda have. "offline" mesh networks.

>>57740953
>More pedophiles and criminals use Tor than morally upright journalists (talk about oxymoron I guess) and government workers attempting to anonymously right wrongs.
Where was this survey?

Is there anything a layperson can do to stop this?

>>57741009
>Just using a VPN or Tor = suspected of a crime and good reason to go after you.
Ain't it the truth, though. Ain't nobody using an identity obscurer to hide they identity unless they doin' something that gonna get theyselves in trouble.

>Where was this survey?
Ain't nobody need no survey. The proof in the pudding.

>>57740725
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>>57740845
please, for the love of god, Poe's Law is a real thing and when you keep saying shit like this even though you don't mean it, you just wind up giving the proponents of eroding our civil liberties undue attention and support

>>57741038
now that trump's in office there's literally no way to stop it. What's even better is it's only going to get worse from here on out.

>>57740992
I buried a 2.5" backup HDD in the woods
Twice a week I go for a walk, once to pick it up, and update it, then to bury it again.
I really should use 2 drives in rotation

Honestly, I'm pretty sad, I saw this a couple of days ago on theverge, and I think it's terrible, sure, it's awesome that they can convict pedos easier, fuck that's awesome, but the problem with them finding them is still a huge issue. If you don't think it is, you're in denial. It's insanely hard to be able to talk to all these different countries, and get their permission to get the original IP from them, hell and they have to do that an insane amount of times. I think they should've came up with a law that say, something like, if you're suspected of this this and this, and if we have the evidence that suggests you did this this and this, then yeah, fuck you, we're searching your shit, otherwise, no I don't think they should. Innocent unti proven guilty right?

>>57741009
>Where was this survey?
Visit the Tor-hosted wikis for links, Tor-hosted forums, boards, and image-sharing sites, and you can see for yourself.

>>57741073
Well that's a warrant, and the FBI thinks it's too hard to work within the law, so we have this constitution breaking garbage.

>>57741073
>Innocent unti proven guilty right?
That's how it should be, but in practice it's guilty until proven innocent. Case in point: my uncle served 25 years until they realised he wasn't a murderer.

>>57740992
I imagine all people that do very important things with legislation or things of the sort have a magnet by all their devices. Fuck, I keep one in my drawer on the off chance someone was to break in and try to steal hard drives to get things such as bank info and many more important things. I've never had to use it, but it's always good to have one just in case.

>>57741125
That's actually fucking insane, he got some reperations right? or no?

>>57741073
>It's insanely hard to be able to talk to all these different countries, and get their permission to get the original IP from them, hell and they have to do that an insane amount of times.
The motivation beyond the "license to hack" thing is that even if ISPs and the like are very cooperative, it's impossible for any of the parties to know or figure out the original IP. That's baked into Tor's design. Even if they had a universal warrant to search anyone suspected of being a pedo, they wouldn't be able to figure out who those people are, or where they are.

really what it comes down to is that they'll be able to catch only the pedos that have poor security practices and get themselves bit by government malware somehow.

>>57741158
Exactly, which is why I think that this law is really unnecessary, at that point, they could gather a plethora of evidence to get a warrant to search without having to make this in my opinion dumb law.

>>57741174
You deserve it. For sitting on your ass instead of finding a solution.

It'll probably get worse later on. Trump's wife had given her proposal for less online bullying. It could mean internet IDs for everyone with easy access to your internet history.

>>57741048
>Ain't nobody using an identity obscurer to hide they identity unless they doin' something that gonna get theyselves in trouble.

People experiment with things they like when they are not being watched. Did your parents not give you any privacy?

Artists who want to express controversial ideas without someone knocking on their door and telling them they're naughty for thinking that.

Also remember where you are; on an anonymous image board.

>>57741096
You're picking one tiny part of the Internet accessed by Tor and formed a general a general opinion of it from that.

> "The right of the people to be secure in their persons, houses, papers, and effects, against unreasonable searches and seizures, shall not be violated, and no Warrants shall issue, but upon probable cause, supported by Oath or affirmation, and particularly describing the place to be searched, and the persons or things to be seized."

Really made me think

>>57741096
That has to be the dumbest shit I've ever heard, TOR isn't just fucking rapists pedos and shit, it's the unindexed web you fucking moron.

>>57740692
>FBI
>Tor

Ayy the """honeypot""".

>>57740890
Then FBI should host a new librechan. Much easier than fucking around with Tor. Wasted money.

>>57740876
your entire reality, be default is based on culture. You grow up and are told how the world works and how to interact with it etc etc.

Since culture is created by people tho, and people are not perfectly rational, you end up with an irrational world with lots of inconsistencies. Distinguishing between culture and reality means seeing the inconsistencies much clearer, knowing that they were created by people, and not to care about them.

LSD or other psychedelics often force this realization as a result of how you think on it. No psychedelics are necessary though, but they help for sure.

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>>57741203
Well people bully Barron for being autistic so that's good. Online Bullying needs to stop. Hell ,bullying in general needs to stop .

>>57741149
He got nothing. My state has no wrongful compensation requirement.

>>57741204
They can do that without Tor. And I'm not anonymous in the eyes of the law; my IP is recorded and anything I say can be traced back to me and used against me in a court of law.

>>57741239
Yes, but the unindexed web is a hugbox for rapists pedos and shit.

>>57741229
What makes you think this applies to digital things?

>>57741264
> Effects
Kind of, shitposter

>>57741264
Computers are physical objects. The Law stipulates against "unreasonable" searches and seizures. All government searches and seizures are automatically called "reasonable", regardless of evidence, or lack thereof.

>>57741276
OK, I'll rephrase:

What makes you think your data belongs to you?

>>57741257
how do you know that those chemicals are not forcing an illusion? how do you know they are giving you truth and not just a product of messed up chemistry in your brain due to unnatural and forced injection of those chemicals in your brain?

>>57741261
>And I'm not anonymous in the eyes of the law; my IP is recorded and anything I say can be traced back to me and used against me in a court of law.
And I'm not anonymous in the eyes of the law; my IP is recorded and anything I say can be traced back to me and used against me in a court of law.
Why would you want to live in a world where every word you say will at sometime in the future be used against you?

>>57741295
Plus it's not like anyone is walking in to your home, they're slipping in through the hardware backdoors in x86 hardware made within the last decade or so.

But I'm sure /g/ didn't forget about that.

Does it even matter? How about finding a solution to combat the NSA rather than cry bitch and moan you're not getting things your way?

>>57741300
The fact that we created, transmitted, or viewed it. Of course it doesn't """belong""" to me, faggot. It's government property, just like my body, my house, and my land.

>>57741312
I don't want to, but in this world, it will happen.

>>57741261
>Yes, but the unindexed web is a hugbox for rapists pedos and shit.

So is the catholic church, but we don't make laws saying we can raid the catholic church lol

LOOOOOOOOL AMERIFATS
JUST USE YOUR GUNS AND KILL YOURSELVES YOU FUCKING USELESS PIECES OF SHIT

>>57741335
>How about finding a solution to combat the NSA
Because I'd rather not be in jail. You can't circumvent the government. They will beat you to the punch with their agenda, every time, guaranteed.

>>57741335
"Properly-implemented strong crypto is one of the few things you can rely on." --Snowden

why do you think there's been such a push to make sure nothing hits the wire in plaintext?

>>57741344
EU FAG HAS BEEN SPIED ON FOR YEARS LUL FIX YOUR TEETH RETARD

>>57741300
If it's not mine, why would I be prosecuted?

>>57741335
only solution is the 2nd amendment

>>57741342
Because the Catholics are protected under the secularity laws. Rape and paedophilia are ingrained in their religion. Just like how a vietnamese woman got away with whipping her son under the guise of it being part of her evangelism.

>>57741344
do have anything USEFUL to bring to the conversation?

>>57741360
Your fatalism disgusts me. All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to do nothing.

>>57741261
>Yes, but the unindexed web is a hugbox for rapists pedos and shit.
Sadly it isn't that exciting. :^)

>>57741376
>All that is necessary for evil to triumph is for good men to try and overthrow it.
Fixed that for you. I'm serious - if you try and fuck with the government, they will make sure you are fucked by a black man every day for the rest of your life.

>>57741365
Because you have it.

And I'm the government and I have more money and lawyers than you, and the judge works for me.

>>57741372
Hell, we could say that playgrounds are also places for pedos and rapists, but we don't seize shit because you've visited a playground in your lifetime.

>>57741360
This is so true. Make anyone more powerful than you angry and your life will be miserable. Nothing is more powerful than a government

>>57740749
Probably the same way they always do it. Have TOR exit nodes and onion child porn sites.

>>57741403
Yeah, we kinda do, if you're a grown man who is a reported filly fiddler.

>>57741310
Because there are a lot of natural psychedelics, lots of substances already existed before the chemical ones did

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>>57741393
Similar things were said by British loyalists in the mid-1700s, and more recently to civil rights protestors in the middle of the 20th century.

Government is a construction of men and what men can make, men can unmake.

>>57741425


If you're reported that the issue here, this law makes it so you don't have to be reported. If you're reported, fuck please search that guys shit and turn his shit literally upside down I don't give a fuck, BUT HE NEEDS TO BE REPORTED. Not just have TOR.

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>>57741362
I knew all my csv software would come in handy one day.

>>57741364
[CLAPPING INTENSIFIES]

>>57740725
you've literally never had a job with computers involved, have you?

>>57740692 article is full of shit OP if they investigate a bank head or a judge remoting in for work for no reason they will get fucked hard

>>57741456
HEY GUYS

LOOK

HE'S GOING TO "UNMAKE" THE INTERNET

>>57741364
NSA backdoors all the way down to your hardware

>American companies literally letting the NSA in

>>57741456
the microwave and satellite networks used by larger businesses and families are in no way in control or turn-off-able by a government... outside of disabling all the equipment

but then again you go to war with general electric you'll lose that war

>>57741456
>men can make, men can unmake
One can kill a person but one cannot revive him.
One can let a wrongfully-convicted person out of jail but one cannot repair the damage done to him whilst he did his unfair time.
One can take a girl's virginity but one cannot restore it.

>>57741509
Nothing wrong with that. It is for your safety.

>>57741310
because its the exact opposite of illusion. The whole point is figuring out reality, not trusting culture, not trusting previous experience, only trusting self-evident logic. If it was an illusion caused by LSD then it wouldn't be reachable without it.

Also, there is an illusion LSD does cause, which is the enlightenment experience. Many interpret it differently, some don't think its an illusion at all. Basically it is the raw feeling that you are connected to everything, that you literally are the universe, or god. Personally I saw it as a semi-illusion. Its a failure of the brain to determine the boundary between inside and outside, and so the brain assumes the entire universe is 'inside'. To witness this, forces you to question all sorts of aspects of how you view the world and what logic and rationality really mean. It causes you to question if *everything* is an illusion. For me, this caused me to become much more interested in rationality and logic, in order to better determine what is real and what is illusion.

>>57741527
Quality shitpost, or so I hope

>>57741472
I don't know what this is but I want and need it where can I find it?

>>57741551
I think he doxed a bunch of people.

>>57741456
>Government is a construction of men and what men can make, men can unmake.
This. If the plebs in this thread want to continue being plebs, they'll get what they want.

>>57741551
It's a csv software, csv is comma seperated values, I think. Basically you input data and it stores it.

>>57741038
Donate to the EFF and make a telephone call to your representatives.

>>57741577
You can't "unmake" the internet unless you can somehow shut it all down at once, and destroy all the hardware (at the same time), then ALSO destroy the means to replace that hardware...It's not going to fucking happen.

ARPANET was literally made so you couldn't destroy it without the entire country being covered in mushroom clouds.

>>57740692
So they are also allowed to hack into any company that uses VPN software ?
Why is there no backlash of major companies ?

>>57741038
No

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>>57741517
The government owns the banks, prints the money, has their thumb on every utility, and has a monopoly on violence. They can make GE do whatever they want.

>>57741600
Donate to the EFF and make a telephone call to your representatives.
Wouldn't this send warnings to the NSA about you? Maye you won't get that nice government job you wanted if you were to donate and make calls

>>57741616
You mean the major companies that are on board with PRISM? Those major companies?

>>57741261
>He got nothing. My state has no wrongful compensation requirement.

the state kidnapped him

if kidnapping is against the law where you live than he can file charges

>>57741396
If I don't own it, why do tos make a point to say I don't know certain things?
Point is you own what's on your computer, simple as that.

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>>57741009
>Sometimes the law needs to be broken. Weed, slavery, Activism
Kill yourself

>>57741629
lol

loser

>>57741644
>you own what's on your computer, simple as that.

Then I'll come in through the backdoor in the CPU that's connected to LAN and plant this CP, then we'll arrest you for possessing illegal material.

itt: CIA niggers

>>57741638
Kidnapping doesn't apply whenever it's the government that's the kidnapper.
>>57741644
You don't "own" anything in this world.

>>57741652
If the law could never be broken, you'd be a feudal serf on a farm somewhere in europe

>>57741644
>Point is you own what's on your computer, simple as that.

Someone doesn't read their EULAs.

>>57741662
>Kidnapping doesn't apply whenever it's the government that's the kidnapper.

so the government is above the law?

trump will fix it

>>57740692
Land of the Free™

>>57741637
Not those, but there are still major ones out there that didn't sell us out... I hope

Keep talking all of you. Julian assagne was just the beginning.

>>57741655
Try thinking of a point for more than 2 second next time.
>>57741667
What do you think tos stood for?

>>57741682
Of course. One who creates restrictions is not obliged to follow them himself. Just like how the mods/admins are exempt from rules on most websites, this one included.

>>57741707
damn

>>57741334
Good thing I keep old hardware and am running firmware that disables the IME. I mean, I don't really have anything they'd want, but I'm all for making it as hard as possible for them to break in and find that out. If they're willing to go apeshit and kick down my door and admit just how badly they had to invade my privacy all to find out I did nothing wrong, it's gonna reflect badly on them.

>>57741435
Not the guy you're replaying to, but just so you know, that was really stupid. It doesn't matter if it's natural or not, it's still chemicals. The only difference is where it was made; in a living thing, or in a lab.

>>57740692

So using a VPN to get around Square's blanket ban of South Korea is now going to flag me for investigation?

This is absurd. Guess I'll have to stop saving every image I see just in case.

>>57741663
At least I would be making an honest days work.

>>57741203
But that is anti american and it goes agaist the freedom of speech. How are you going to silence people because they hurt your feefees.

>>57740692
>allow FBI to search and seize any computer around the world
good luck with that ameriburgers, stay in your shitty country and stop pretending to be the center of the world

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>>57741667

Daily Reminder.

If you need to post FUD to a Japanese culture website for money, you should kill yourself.

>>57741760
FUD?

>>57741635
That's speech that's literally protected by the constitution. Also, you can make anonymous donations or make a call from one of the few remaining phone booths.

>>57740692
Literally every single law the government passes can be circumvented by using someone else's internet connection and a laptop you don't use for personal matters.

Yet more laws that hurt people interested in privacy but not criminals

What a fucking joke.

>>57741768
Fear Uncertainty Doubt

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>>57741310
>how do you know that those chemicals are not forcing an illusion?
>Oh, you mean like these chemicals
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tryptamine
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serotonin
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dopamine
>>how do you know they are giving you truth and not just a product of messed up chemistry in your brain due to unnatural and forced injection of those chemicals in your brain?
>If these chemicals are so unnatural and mess up your brain chemistry then explain why we have receptors for them?
>https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cannabinoid_receptor
>Also, explain why your brain produces, on its own, while you sleep, one of the most potent psychoactives known to man?
>https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dimethyltryptamine
>tl;dr: all perception, thoughts, and what we call reality is incumbent on various chemicals and brain chemistry

>>57741362
>plaintext

Oh god, are we going to go back to sending encrypted data through the phone line and storing on magnetic media?

>>57741788
>Also, explain why your brain produces, on its own, while you sleep, one of the most potent psychoactives known to man?
Not him and I'm all for psychedelics but this is not true, there's no proof that DMT is produced when we sleep afaik. Correct me if I'm wrong.

https://youtu.be/37rrIelisjc

>>57741816
You know too much.

>>57741760
What the fuck is a FUD you dumb fucking weeb

>>57741760
Its legal for the government to produce and support propaganda now. Changes the way you look at things the last few years after that took place.

>>57741760
>daily reminder

reminding people you're here for the anime only makes it easier to disregard your opinion

>>57741866
back to plebbit
>>57741852
you must be over 18 to post here

Time to rev up those security practices.

Better disable CSS just be to safe.

Really though, recommended setup:

1), Download Devuan. Verify the GPG key.
2), Use the minimal version (e.g, don't install any DE)
3), Install OpenBox + tint2
3), use wget to download the tor browser and keys, using ssl of course.
4), Verify those keys
5), install browser how you normally would
6), set the slider to max security, and never ever enable javascript. EVER.

Use it an VM for extra sp00kyness

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>>57741825
>mfw we really are living in the cyberpunk future

Reminds me of what I noticed when I played through FF7 again
>all this insane technology everywhere
>jessie got her bomb recipe on a simple monochrome computer

>>57741881
>>huhuhhu someone who uses computers yelled at me

>>57741950
Wrong. We're not living in the cyberpunk future. There's no neon or huge building

>>57740879
Brave new world, libby.

>>57741950
well it's not like the anarchists cookbook takes a 40k holomonitor to read

>>57741842
There also isn't any solid scientific explanation or understanding to date as to how and why we dream at all. Would it not be safe then to conjecture that there is some type of chemical mechanism at work here? Of course, science isn't based on conjecture but one thing is certain, mammals are capable of dreaming and do so quite often and not just humans. It isn't such a far stretch to think that the body is producing hormones and other chemicals to facilitate this. We're also not the only species that go out of our way to find other chemicals that might alter our perception
http://www.independent.co.uk/environment/nature/dolphins-deliberately-get-high-on-puffer-fish-nerve-toxins-by-carefully-chewing-and-passing-them-9030126.html
http://www.cracked.com/article_17032_7-species-that-get-high-more-than-we-do.html

>>57741991
there's a subtle degeneration of culture happening

couple that with a reignited DIY phase and body enhancement as we are entering as well and it's pretty much that time that it happens.

>>57741950
dude, ff7... Right in the feels evertim

>>57741994
Still got that on a floppy disc somewhere, from back before an edited version started floating around more often than the original.

>>57742003
sleep is triggered by reducing alpha wave brain function and changing the bloods chemical and hormone levels.... as much as we don't know we know enough to know what we don't know. It's not like we're clueless.

>>57741053
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>>57741683
reminder that Trump is pro-wiretap

>>57742031
meh either way gasoline and styrofoam is still napalm

i don't thing the age of information lends itself to needing the golden standard. besides. You can still ask your library for it. It's just you go on a list is all.

>>57742052
That's a lie. Trump only supports that with a warrant.

>>57741723
I took a lot of psychedelics when I was a student, sure I've had bad trips but most trips I explored more of myself and what I really wanted to do in life.
They are all chemicals but we also make serotonin and dopamine when we are in love or have a kick/rush from something.
We make most chemicals already in our own brain, drugs aren't bad the people that misuse drugs are bad and uninformed usually also a lot of production is criminalized sadly. But that is because the government doesn't regulate drugs safely, they could've stopped it a million times already but instead they keep the war on drugs that has let to even worse situations then before

>>57742052
Good

itt: drumfkins on full damage control mode

>>57742037
>sleep
Great, now explain dreaming.

>>57740692
>it's now a crime to not openly expose your browsing habits
Nice freedumbs you have there murifags. But at least your guns are safe

>>57742087
But this happened under Obama anon

>>57742095

there's little to explain, if you've ever has sleep paralysis or problems with sleeping on the waking edge you can sort of see the connection

the senses washed out by being fed a lot of noise and then dreaming is just sort of hallucinating while not remembering anything substantial. it's like waking up and knowing how to do things but not remembering why you're there.

ostensibly this is done to recover from finite resources used up like sugar and other enzymes that are used to process logic against senses and memories

>>57742087
It started after 9/11. Under bush.

>>57741048
eat my dick

i use a vpn to watch my japanese hentais

>>57742176
it started 200k years ago when the first tribe wanted to fuck over another

>>57742198
You know too much.

>>57742130
t. child porn pirate

>>57742176
And king kong extended it. What's your point?

>>57742211
when's your next season?

>>57742194
>"I'm safe because I use a VPN."
>has post 2007 x86 processor
>probably uses Windows as well
>and google
>But he's off the botnet because he uses a VPN

Nothing to hide, nothing to fear

Amirite?

>>57742240
>has post 2007 x86 processor

i don't trust trusted computing
they don't just want it around to stop looting

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m_vmx60sUtw

>>57742240

thinking i use a vpn for privacy

WEW

its called spoofing my location as japan so i can access certain weeb sites for hentai

>>57740692

>may 2, 2016

Why are all of the links on the page dead?

>>57742275
why? because it's considered CP or "irregular" content?

>>57740692
So the US courr ruled that the FBI has all rights to get data from every PC in the WORLD using privacy tools.

Nuke the US.

>>57742426
that was always the case chill your retarded overstretched imagination out

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>>57742052
He is.

I mean he's going to make ripples everywhere that it counts but he comes with a lot of bad policy too.

>>57742215
Nice proof FBI
Totally got me there fucboi

>>57740692
posting on my private vpn because 4chan firewall lel, guess the days are finally upon us, shitposting is literally a crime

>>57742340
because it's ipblocked to region outside of japan

I guess I'll have to start buying my japanese sex games legally.

>we are about to live in a world where you're less likely to get caught for child rape than you are child porn

>>57742468
Why do American's think they're entitled to decide that decision is what baffles me.

I worked together with an American last summer in Switzerland, we were getting along fine. Still, nuke the US.

>>57740692
This will never fucking happen. Why? Almost all modern businesses use VPNs.

>>57742130
>But at least your guns are safe
Who told you they were? They haven't been since 1934.

>all these idiots missing the fact that VPN is also covered
companies are going to flip the fuck out

>>57740890
>I think people who just sit around and masturbate to their fetishes are more dangerous than people who are gaining more and more power and control over me
???

>>57740890
Nice try, my guy.

>>57740692
Activate rule 66

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>>57741852
WTF is FUD
>>57741866
Anime a cute

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>>57743237
not making the rules, just stating them clearly

>>57741850
Hue. Okay, onii-chan.

>>57741852
You must be 18 or older to post here.
https://lmgtfy.com/?q=what+is+fud

>>57741861
It's been that way for a while in papers and on TV.

>>57741866
Look where you are faggot. If you didn't want to look at anime pictures you should have gone to a website where the 404 page isn't a Japanese comic book character.

>>57741958
Wow, you're being retarded online and nobody can stop you!

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I love seeing all the triggered pedos every time one of these threads is made.

You KNOW they use this shit exclusively for stealing movies, selling drugs, and kiddie fiddling, but they'll make whatever bullshit writeoff and conspiracy theory they can find to distract from the problem.

>>57743597
Governments being able to shut down free expression is, has always been, and will continue to be, a far bigger problem than people stealing movies or fapping to lolicon. If it's a choice of shutting one down and allowing the other, we should shut down government. No question about it.

>>57740692
>will allow the FBI to hack and search any computer found using a VPN
so every major company that allows work from how is now going to be searched by the fbi? makes sense.

>>57743533
>Look where you are faggot
'ahuhuhu muh animu'
proving my point over and over : )

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>>57743718
>I got muh rights to fap to kiddie porn, its dah gubbmint who out to get ya, donchu be afraid bout mah kiddie fiddlin when dey gonna mkultra your ass n shiet!!

>>57740692
Time for decentralized networking my friends.

We are neals

>>57743533
butthurt autist much

>>57741861
>Its legal for the government to produce and support propaganda now
When was it illegal, Uncle Sam?

>>57744000
Smith–Mundt Act

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>>57741063

Wait so does this apply to the millions of americans using VPNs or just ones that have been served a warrant?

Doesn't really make sense to go through millions of people's computers. Doing that costs money you know.

>>57740692
good. all you criminal fucks are going down.

>>57740692
yeah but proxies are still cool right?

>>57740692
This isnt a good thing you asshat. This applies for all vpn, tor, proxy, and people using any form of encryption service. It can be easily misused and internet privacy will dissappear.

>>57743915
cool. invite me to your next lan party and we'll go from there

>all these tech illiterates ITT calling cracking "hacking"

>>57740692
>search and seize any computer around the world
Don't they have to go through the other country's government before they did that?

>>57746614
I figured that was readily apparent.
>>57747858
TPP.

>>57740692
Why are these old ass articles being posted? Why wasn't it news back in May?

>>57740789
>Manning leaks

That totally worked well, he's in prison and it turned him into a woman.

>>57747880
trumpalump says hes getting usa outta that though?

>>57740692
Sounds like completely lunatic legislation. What next? FBI allowed to raid every apartment with a locked door? FBI allowed to arrest anyone living in an apartment with curtains covering more than 10% of the windows? FBI allowed to kill anyone carrying something in their pockets? FBI allowed to torture anyone who an agent believes might have suspicious thoughts in their mind?

>>57748011
>implying they don't already do this

>>57741342
>So is the catholic church, but we don't make laws saying we can raid the catholic church
Implying the witchhunt against the Catholic Church is not the result of a long culture of anti-Catholic smears (by Protestants) combined with the fact that Catholic Church is against the pet issues of so called progressive including an infallible teaching against abortion and homo marriage.

Here's something that should really make you think:
>during the first half of 2002, the 61 largest newspapers in California ran nearly 2,000 stories about sexual abuse in Catholic institutions, mostly concerning past allegations. During the same period, those newspapers ran four stories about the federal government’s discovery of the much larger — and ongoing — abuse scandal in public schools.

>>57741372
>Rape and paedophilia are ingrained in their religion.
If you're talking about Islam, then you're factually correct. Otherwise no.

>>57741416
Yeah, this. FBI already does this.

And I don't give a fuck because pedos can eat shit.

>>57743597
>You KNOW they use this shit exclusively for stealing movies, selling drugs, and kiddie fiddling
I've never used Tor or VPN for any of those reasons.

Your claim of KNOWING tells a lot about your thought process though. You're a defender of totalitarianism and make bullshit claims based on your feelings. You're pretty much a perfect example of human cancer.

>>57748266
this pedo trying to rationalize his sick activity under the guise of being 'anti-totalitarianism'

So how does this not prove that Tor is effective?

>>57748281
So everyone against totalitaranism is a pedophile? Great thinking. How about you just hang yourself.

>>57748302
no but everyone who watches kiddy porn like you do is a pedo

>anywhere in the world
KEK. Amerifats are more delusional than ever before.

>>57748329
Everyone who uses a password for their email is a pedophile.

>>57748329
I'm not the one obsessed with kiddy porn. You are. So I think it's pretty likely it's you who is the pedo. And remember, just because you're underage yourself doesn't mean you can't be a pedo.

>>57748353
>take pictures of self
>get arrested for being a pedo
>get registered as a sex offender and not allowed within 2 miles of any school
>not allowed to talk to any other 13 year olds even though you're 13

>>57748353
kek you literally used the word pedo three times in that post and the phrase kiddy porn. it's like you sub-consciously want to admit you are one.

>>57748414
I used the phrase kiddy porn because you used it, dimwit. Go play outside or hang yourself.

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>>57748414
you pedos are so defensive.

>>57748422
>he thinks all non pedos should kill themselves.
whatever, have fun with your child fucking pictures on the darknet

>>57742724
more like
>people who feed a market of human trafficking and incite child abuse

kill yourself

>>57748463
Raping you in this thread is enough child fucking for today.

>>57740692
>The newly approved rule change by the U.S. Supreme Court will allow FBI to search and seize any computer around the world

>FBI to search and seize any computer around the world

>any computer around the world

If your country expedites people to America without hesitation, and cooperates with the FBI, then you need a better country.

>>57741737
underrated patrician post.

>>57741760
Mass quotes like this should warrant an instant ban.

>>57740692
>there are people in this thread defending this because hurr durr pedophiles

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>>57740692
I guess this will only happen in the USA?

Looks like america is great again

>>57748558
>there are people in this thread who literally jack off to children and support an entire market of violence and abuse

>>57740866
Do people who think like this realize the US would not even exist if laws weren't broken and actions considered "wrong" at the time were not performed?

>>57748493
>>people who feed a market of human trafficking and incite child abuse
>closet pedophiles who download shitty publicly available cp from sites listed on the hidden wiki are feeding the human trafficking market

>>57748571
Unless they pay for it, they don't support the market. Doesn't mean it's OK to spend your time in such vile degeneracy, but it is emotive hyperbole and incorrect to claim they support some darknet market just by jacking off.

>>57740692
Thanks, O'nigger.

>>57748696
>he doesn't know people pay with btc to get access to pedo forums and how that creates a market demand

>>57748727
95% of that stuff was recorded more than a decade ago, and 99% of the current stuff is made for free by bored fathers with cunny daughters is not a market THAT big

>>57748727
That's a very small number of people and has very little to do with being labeled as a criminal just for using vpn/tor.

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>>57748746
Tell me more

>>57748727
>paying btc for cp when degeneracy like snapchat exists

>>57740692
Will I be safe if I use Opera?

>>57748765
Their VPN is safe if you aren't chinese and want to post crap about communism

it's edgy pol-shits that support this, isn't it

>>57748746
>Child pornography is one of the fastest growing businesses online, with estimated annual revenue of $3 billion. According to the Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection, child pornography is usually distributed two ways. It’s either commercial child pornography that is distributed for profit, or non-commercial child pornography that is offered free or traded among offenders, like the P2P networks. ASACP estimates that the United States has the largest share of commercialized child pornography websites with close to 50 percent of the global volume. Websites that distribute commercial child pornography offer thousands of images and videos. Most children exploited are pre-adolescent. Some children appear to have been subjected to physical as well as sexual violence.

>>57740817
Tor is the only known way to make IoT meme devices somewhat secure.

>>57748792
There is also a hacker named 4chan.

>>57748792
>According to the Association of Sites Advocating Child Protection


Yeah and according to jews hitler killed 6 billion of them

>>57748747
>small number

in order to know whether it's a small number or not you wouuld have had to be a member of some of those sites to see the numbers, so go ahead and take a screenshots of your pedo forums. also this doesn't even include video/pic sites hosting on the darkweb that require btc to access

Looks like this post is being filled with shills not focusing on the actual topic.

>>57748809
I don't have any screenshots to show you but rest assured that a large majority people will be just fine getting their fix from whatever sites are listed under "hard candy" on the hidden wiki or whatever the current popular catalog of .onion links is.

>>57748852
>implying that they haven't been monetized

glad to know that you have insider knowledge about the child pornography industry on the darkweb though.

>>57748882
>implying they do

Glad to know that you have insider knowledge about the child pornography industry on the darkweb though.

>>57741822

DMT is NOT produced during sleep. From your link:

> Neurobiologist Andrew Gallimore (2013) suggested that while DMT might not have a modern neural function, it may have been an ancestral neuromodulator once secreted in psychedelic concentrations during REM sleep, a function now lost.

>>57748889
why don't you check, it's obvious you've been on it before.

>>57748906
I only know what's on the surface, i.e. the things hidden wiki use to link to a few years ago. It's been a while since I opened that page.
Way before that tor browser exploit was used on some cp site.

And just like most people will download songs from youtube using the first google result for "youtube to mp3" instead of taking the what.cd (rip) interview, most people will stick to the surface cp as well.
Making the iceberg comparison with the internet is ridiculous.

This thread is so shit people. Fucking good job at killing /g/.

>flinging shit from side to side without any coherency.

You guys are all cunts

>>57748792
>Child pornography is one of the fastest growing businesses online
This is a vague claim so you should post the data it is based on. How do they estimate the annual revenue? Do they include porn sites that use pics of possibly underage models as clickbait to draw ad revenue? Or are these websites dedicated to child pornography with customers paying for the content? If they can track the revenue, why can't they shut them down if 50% of the websites are in the United States? All of this raises more questions than it provides answers.

Also, it says little about whether the material is new or not.

ASACP website says:
> Please report ONLY websites. If possible please provide the exact address of the page (URL) where the child exploitation (i.e. lewd images of children under 18) is located.
>Most child modeling sites are not illegal as the models are clothed and not engaged in sexual activity. However, if you feel you have witnessed sexually explicit and or lewd images of a child or children while viewing a child modeling site please report this.
>authorities are unwilling to discuss reports and ongoing investigations, so we have no details to provide regarding possible actions taken against a suspect site
>There could be many reasons why a reported site remains active on the internet. Some of the possible reasons are an investigation is still underway, no illegal material was found on the site, or the site is located in a country where the material is not illegal or where U.S. authorities are otherwise unable to act or gain cooperation from that country's own authorities.

>>57741521
>One can take a girl's virginity but one cannot restore it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hymenorrhaphy

child pornography internet defense force of the darknet pedo child fucking forums out in full force tonight, folks

>>57749171
>this post didn't increase the ip count

We've already heard your opinion.

>>57749171
yours as well, pedo.

>>57749219
>beyond the point
>can't even link the correct post>>57749219

It's probably futile to try and revive the thread at this point, but are there any alternatives that the privacy-conscious can turn to?

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>>57741536
This.
But if we had educational systems that weren't actively shilling for the status quo then hallucinogens wouldn't even be necessary.

>>57748804
6 million which was too few, and that's if it really did happen and wasn't just a stunt to get sheckles from other nations out of pity for those filthy cockroaches.

I don't have anything to hide, so of course I don't use tor.

>>57741536
Best explanation of pschedelics

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>>57740725
>>57740845
>>57740866
If you're not just baiting, please read this and reconsider your position on the topic.

Speaking of VPNs and shit, someone must know of a VPN service that works on 4chan.

>>57749743
VPNs are literally bait.

>>57749719
>huge long lines of text

Why can't people just copy-paste these things in to another, more easily readable, format?

>>57740692
>Violating the 4th Amendment
Anyone worth their salt in basic Constitutional rights would have this thrown-out in a heartbeat.

>>57749814
Ever heard of character limit? You're not even going to bother reading the opposing view, are you?
https://youtu.be/pcSlowAhvUk

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>>57749918
Word wrap you fucking idiot.

This is what it looks like at a readable size on my screen. I am not going to keep scrolling back and forth a line 290 characters long to read this shit.

Plus:
>saving two-color image where strong differences between them is required as a JPG and not a PNG or GIF

>>57749969
You can't even see all the words in the picture you posted and I guess that was your intention. Drawing attention away from the issue.

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>>57750006
>You can't even see all the words in the picture you posted and I guess that was your intention.

>"This is what it looks like at a readable size on my screen."
>" I am not going to keep scrolling back and forth a line 290 characters long to read this shit."

I'm the one arguing in favour of converting this to an easier to read format. In fact, I'm in the middle of doing just that.

Don't think I'll bother now. Enjoy your surveillance state because you couldn't make your arguments and information easy to spread and read.

>>57750041
pls pastebin this. I need to plagarise this

>>57750041
I even posted a video of a TED talk featuring Glenn Greenwald. But I guess that was too convenient to ignore. Have you heard of websites? Do you know that you can easily read text on websites on all devices?
https://opensource.org/node/711
https://www.scu.edu/ethics/focus-areas/internet-ethics/resources/why-we-care-about-privacy/
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2015/oct/02/why-is-it-so-hard-to-convince-people-to-care-about-privacy

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>>57740692
oh fug

t. aussie

>>57750085
>Do you know that you can easily read text on websites on all devices?

THAT'S NOT TEXT YOU IDIOT

IT'S A JPEG

>>57750070
I'll pastebin the plaintext and the HTML version Markdown outputs when I'm done.

>>57749026
All those websites are ran by the FBi thats why they can't shut em down

>>57749298
Staying the fuck off the internet

I like cars and farming

>>57750102
>I'll pastebin the plaintext and the HTML version Markdown outputs when I'm done.
thanks m8

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>>57750137
Markdown: http://pastebin.com/BVrPD4AC
HTML: http://pastebin.com/x8m4RMZF

>>57750262
this was the most autistic interaction i've witness on 4chan in a few months

congratulation

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>>57750262
And for a frame of reference: what I had to go through for you faggots.

Let this be a lesson to all of you screencappers.

>>57750262
thanks m8, why not add it to github? let's take the autism further and let the community contribute?

>>57750262
are you a homo?

>>57750277
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>>57741950
FFVII was dieselpunk pleb.

>>57740890
My freedom doesn't end where your feelings begin, you fucking progressive socialist.

If only the government wouldn't abuse these laws imagine how much good they could actually do but instead they will mostly be used to maintain control and protect their perversions.

>>57750262
Why are so many faggots shilling here for surveillance?
ONE
ib4 but homos are mainstream now.
Reading the wrong book, beeing an anarchist, repairing your own devices, transcoding your bought musiclibrary

>>57750307
Are you not?

>>57750368
no

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>>57750410
nobody cares anyway

What about companies using vpn to connect remotely into their network?

>>57750496
just curious because you push the homo agenda quite hard in those texts.

But that image says it all.

>>57750513
fucking criminals.

>>57741344
Why would one bring pain to himself when the pain you can bring others is satiating.
- some german motherfucker

>>57750522
the faggot shit panders to the normalfags feels, and the normalfags are what drive policy and society

it was a very good analogy to push the privacy agenda

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>>57740692
>VPN
>privacy tool

I use it to secure access to my server's SSH if I need to use it remotely, and that would label me a criminal? Good grief usa, get fucked with a rusty spade. I'm not compromising on my security because you're a bunch of butthurt nerdhackers.

I don't understand

How can they "find" a computer using a VPN? Seeing the connection to the VPN's IP at the ISP level? There's millions alone in America using VPN for both personal and business use. Not to mention world wide - this new legislation or whatever is spooky but how are they going to actually implement this on a practical scale? It just seems like some tech-illiterate fossils signed off on it because it seemed like a good idea, without knowing the technical details.

>>57750589
not in my country.

>>57750613
is your country currently passing a law that flags VPN and Tor users as criminals?

this thread is about the US retard

>>57750630
>is your country currently passing a law that flags VPN and Tor users as criminals?
no because we're fucking sane

>>57750673
Not him, where you from famioso?

>>57750673
you're an idiot

>>57750690
Democratic People's Republic of Korea

When did /g/ become a bunch of narcs?

>>57740725
If you are indeed serious, please get into a skype call or give me your steam ID so I can rent a booter and keep you offline. Because you're not a criminal, so you're not using a VPN.

>>57750694
explain

>>57750601
I'm not an expert but well known VPNs have a limited number of IPs right? They can index those to pull up a red flag when used

>>57750736
Yeah but in what context is what I mean? When you connect to the VPN and your ISP records it? When you visit particular websites and find out it's a VPN IP address? And then once they find out it's a VPN IP, then what? Unless they can actually put a malicious script on the page to get your actual IP on every website, how can they even figure out who you are? Assuming the VPN doesn't keep logs, like most claim.

>>57750736
also you can fucking detect it using packet inspection.

>>57750736
Plus a lot of VPNs suffer from IPv6 leakage, and there's a bunch of TOR exit nodes operated by governments.

>>57750712
6 years ago

>>57750763
It's probably the ISP recording it and keeping logs. That seems like the weakest link in the chain. I think the UK is forcing ISPs to log everything users to for X years back and even though ISPs claim it's impossible I suspect it'll become possible very quickly if heavy fines are introduced

>>57750804
I don't know much about VPN stuff but I thought I read somewhere that when you're using a VPN what you're doing gets obscured to your ISP or something?

>>57751116
Everything you do is obscured, but they can see that you're connected to the VPN in the first place before the encryption begins.

>>57740807
>am running the on my company server
>running the on my company

>vijay prabhu

>>57740859
You don't need drugs to do that you nitwit, just a cultural anthro class.