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Should I get 2 GTX 1080s in SLI or one GTX Titan XP? I was thinking the 1080s because 1. Its much faster and 2. Any game that doesn't support SLI won't need more than a single 1080 anyways. Any support will be welcomed.

Also /Graphics card General/
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>>57736672
What do you even want this for? 4k@60fps?
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The GTX 1080Ti that comes out soon will have the performance of a Titan XP at the current cost of a single GTX 1080.


But really anything bigger than a RX 480 8GB is a huge waste of money considering how fast Nvidia GPUs lose value.
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I'm upgrading from integrated graphics to GTX 1050 Ti.
Bully me
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>>57736672
SLI is a meme and most of the time it's not being fully used.

Go single card
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Can someone explain what the difference between these two is

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA2F84AK0703&ignorebbr=1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125881

was about to pick up the first one but I dont even know what zotac is so Im not sure how reliable it is
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>>57736949
Get the one by gigabyte. It'll have better cooling.
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>>57736696
seriously wait if thats the case

hbm2 is when id personally jump onto the 4k wagon
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There is a R9 fury for $260 with a $20 rebate on newegg. I got one, will be a massive upgrade to my 750ti, and its almost as good as a 1070 so I am happy.
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>>57737040
alright, sounds good, thanks
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>>57737127
Np bud
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>>57736820
Anyone who criticizes you for spending as much as you think you need for gaming is retarded.

>>57736783
It's supposed to be $800-$900. Which again means I can only get 1. I need 1440p 144fps in every game I play, which the single 1080ti will be incapable of doing.
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>>57736783
>The GTX 1080Ti that comes out soon will have the performance of a Titan XP at the current cost of a single GTX 1080.

that's wishful think from someone who's only been paying attention since the last generation.

Nvidia panicked over Fiji and make the 980 Ti a pseudo-Titan, which never was the case before and won't happen again since Vega's general specs are known so far in advance.

The 1080 Ti is already confirmed to be a heavy binned TXP/GP102, with 10GB/320b GDDR5X and a lot fewer ALUs. It'll be closer to midway between a 1080 and TXP.
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GTX 1080 Ti
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Does the 780 have the 3.5g ram problem like the 770?
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>>57738572

In retrospective, I really don't remember why. What did AMD do that was remotely threatening?
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>>57736672
I was thinking about this too, and I'll be getting two 1080s. It's the only way to get over 60 FPS in AAA games and will be for at least next six months.

>>57737043
>HBM2
Volta is at least a year away
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>>57736820
I actually came here searching for thoughts on the 1050ti, worth an upgrade from 560ti? for gaming obviously...still using a 2500k.

Would appreciate input
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>>57739717
Fiji looked like a monster with 4096 ALUs and 500 GB/s bandwidth, but nobody assumed that AMD would need to skimp on geometry and rasterization and would only get ~2/3rds of HBM's theoretical throughput.

Similarly, Vega has the potential to cream the 1080 Ti and edge out the new Titan X, but only if they don't have anemic fixed function unit capacity again.
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http://techreport.com/review/30281/nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-graphics-card-reviewed/6

AYYMD IS NO MATCH FOR PASCAL
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What kind of single card would I have to get in order for it to be significantly (say, by like 50%) faster than my current cards, a pair of GTX 680s in SLI?

Benchmark sites generally only compare current hardware to other current hardware and to the previous generation of hardware, not stuff that's from 2011.
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>>57740603
SLI sucks and 680 sucks. A fucking 970 destroyed your shit in 2014
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>>57740679
this. A RX 480/GTX 1060 would be consistently and noticeably faster, and a GTX 1070 would utterly rape your current setup.
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>>57740679
>>57740709
is this true because of or in spite of concerns around imperfect scaling with SLI?
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Cheapest latest gpu?
Is there more cheaper than powercolor 100 usd Rx 460.
Does reference rx 460 exists?
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>>57740724
>is this true because of or in spite of concerns around imperfect scaling with SLI?

A little of both, but mostly the latter.
> 680 - 32 GP/s, 129 GT/s, 4 GTri/s, 192 GB/s, 3 TFs
> 970 - 59 GP/s, 109 GT/s, 4.7 GTri/s, 196 GB/s, 3.5 TFs
> 1070 - 72 GP/s, 181 GT/s, 10.5 GTri/s, 256 GB/s, 5.8 TFs

In particular, Nvidia raped every non-Maxwell owner by ramping up tessellation and rasterization capacity and then pushing abuse of the geometry pipeline via TWIMTBP.
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Can someone tell me how fast high-end GPUs get cheaper?
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ASUS 1060 TURBO 6GB for $250 with $30 mail in rebate
OR
GIGABYTE1060 Windforce OC 3GB for $200

Which is the better deal? Will game, but don't play tons of games right when they come out.

Also, will a blower fan be louder than an open air GPU? Only ever used open air.
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FACT: if your graphics cards fans EVER stop spinning during operation it WILL fry the fuck out of the graphics card
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>>57741118
they only really drop when a new generation or competition springs up, so not very.

For example:
> No AMD card faster than RX 480 in 2016 = up-clocked and die-shrunk 970 selling for $450.
> AMD scheduled to release a 4k shader + HBM monster? 980 Ti sold for $650, fucking 980 and Titan X users raw.
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my 7870 just died today. is the 480 still the price/performance king?

also is it worth going 8gb over 4gb
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Looking to upgrade my build with a GTX 1070, but am unsure of what kind I should get. I won't be doing any overclocking. I'm thinking about either the EVGA SC or the Gigabyte G1.

Please help me decide and tell me why you think certain cards are better. I'm at a complete loss.

My current build: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ACuteLoli/saved/jjPnQ7
Looking to upgrade my build with a GTX 1070, but am unsure of what kind I should get. I won't be doing any overclocking. I'm thinking about either the EVGA SC or the Gigabyte G1.

I'm going to be doing 1080p gaming on a 60hz monitor but might upgrade in the future. Also not sure if my case has enough room for a 1070 but I'm like 95% sure it does.

Please help me decide and tell me why you think certain cards are better. I'm at a complete loss.

My current build: http://pcpartpicker.com/user/ACuteLoli/saved/jjPnQ7
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WAIT FOR VOLTA :')
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never get SLI

titan x is more than enough for 1440 gaming.
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>have gtx 770 sli rig
>only real complaint is 2gb vram is not enough
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>>57740351

I've only watched one video on the 1050ti and it seems a very decent budget card for 1080p. It would be a very significant upgrade from a 560. However, look up a few benchmarks yourself.

I would recommend getting the 1050ti, a 560 is old trash. You also might wanna look into the RX 460.
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>>57741790
I'm kind of in the same boat as you. If you don't plan to OC it then I'd look for the cheapest one available (even reference design is okay).
http://www.ebay.com/itm/ZOTAC-GeForce-GTX-1070-DirectX-12-ZT-P10700I-10P-8GB-256-Bit-GDDR5-PCI-Express-3-/291891606536

This triple fan Zotac model on Newegg's Ebay Store is $345.
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470 4gb or 480 8gb?

is there a huge difference between the two for 1080 gaming?

cant decide which one to get. every penny counts but I want max settings @ 60fps
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>>57742203
There's gotta be something wrong with it for it to be that cheap.
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thinking of upgrading my gt 430 for this, ive seen a few bad things about EVGA heating up too much though. Is that still the case with this card?
https://www.bhphotovideo.com/c/product/1292188-REG/evga_04g_p4_6251_kr_geforce_gtx_1050_ti.html
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>>57742254
Description says they are new.
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>>57741141
get the 6GB
also give links to the cards
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So i missed out on a black Friday deal on a RX 470 due to procrastination and bad phone signal.

So i guess my best option is to kick back, save up and actually buy something decent in a few months since it was going to be a placeholder for a high end upgrade later next year anyway.
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What type of rx 470 should I get? Also, how is my list?
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>>57742713
XFX, MSI or Sapphire are the 3 to get i think
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>>57742244
Ud prob be fine with a 4gb 480, just be aware some games are pushing higher vram, mostly due to bad optimization tho
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>>57741179
>what is throttling
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Help me choose

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137046&cm_re=MSI_GTX_1070_Quicksilver_OC-_-14-137-046-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814487265

https://www.amazon.com/EVGA-GeForce-Support-Graphics-08G-P4-6173-KR/dp/B01I60OGUK/ref=sr_1_2?s=pc&ie=UTF8&qid=1480382419&sr=1-2&keywords=evga%2B1070&th=1

Also why is the FTW edition on Amazon cheaper than the SC? Also, why is the Black Edition cheaper than the SC?
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>>57742713
Why not get a xfx 480 instead? Will save you an upgrade for $20 more, plus they make the best AMD cards. Rest of the build is well balanced, but I'd swap the PSU for a Seasonic S12II unless you also plan to upgrade that soon anyway.
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>>57742713
Get a z170 board with a bios capable of over clocking the 6400. They get to 4.3ghz+. Pretty massive increase in performance
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>>57742667

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814126115&ignorebbr=1

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814125906&ignorebbr=1
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just spent 400 (canadabux) on a 8gb 480. should i have gotten a 4gb for 50-100 less?

did i just waste a ton of money
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>>57743092
I've never heard of xfx. Are they reliable? I read that msi has a good cooler

>>57743154
z170 is a bit too much, i'm already going over my budget as is
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>>57743309
They can be had for like $90 and you literally be getting like a 40% faster cpu. BLCK over clocking turns the 6400 into a 6600k. Trust. Make it happen some how
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>>57742667
i hope you ordered the 6GB before it went out of stock
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>>57743241

Anyone else comment on this? How are blower fans in terms of noise?
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Thinking of getting the EVGA SC 1070. I've heard bad things about the supposed thermal issues but I've also heard that they've been largely resolved now. In the worst case scenario, I'd just have to get the thermal pads and apply them, pretty easy I'm assuming?

Also, I won't do overclocking or anything like that, just gaming for the most part.

Was also looking at MSI but have heard that EVGA's customer support is superb and MSI's not so much.
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>>57738417
A single 1080ti can do that, in fact it'll do it a hell of a lot better than a single 1080 or two 1080s on the 15% of games that support SLI
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>>57738417
>incapable of doing
My 1070 does it
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R9 Fury or 8 GB 480 for 1440 60 hz weekend warring?

Torn between these two deals:
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202186&cm_re=sapphire_r9_fury-_-14-202-186-_-Product

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814202223&cm_re=rx_480_8gb-_-14-202-223-_-Product

How worried do I need to be about 4 GB of VRAM in [CURRENT YEAR]?
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>>57743441

Welp fuck. Guess that's what I get for being indecisive. Least I save $20.
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>>57736783
>1080Ti
>comes out soon

citation needed, 980ti didn't come out until almost a full year after the 980.
>>57738572
780ti was pretty famous for being stronger than the titan.

and it was also neck and neck with the titan black.
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Will the 1080ti work with Windows 7?
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>>57737046
Ayyyy my fellow cheap fury bro. I picked up the same card and an 8320 to upgrade my fx 41xx/7870ghz because im a full blown retard.
Its certainly a worthwhile purchase considering its roughly the price of an oc rx 480 8gb, but dont delute yourself into thinking its "almost as good" as a 1070. Just be glad you got better than 980 performance at 1060/480 price.
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Help me choose my next GPU, /g/ :

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814137046&cm_re=MSI_GTX_1070_Quicksilver_OC-_-14-137-046-_-Product

or

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?item=N82E16814487248

Or any other suggestions.
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>>57743514
i wouldn't go under 4GB at 1080/60. in some new games 4GB isn't even enough for 1080/60.
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>>57743514
>>57743878
adding onto that, cards like the fury/fury x are ok due to their HBM1 memory. the 4GB is a bit of a downer but they can still keep up with 8GB GDDR5 cards.
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>>57743878
Thanks. Looks like I am now a #480matey
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>>57743946
Breh check benchies. At 1440 the fury consistently outperforms a 390x 8gb which consistently outperforms an rx 480 8gb. Unfortunately there arent many benches out there that pit the two against eachother directly, but clearly the 4gb of hbm in the fury compensates for its lack of capacity through raw bandwidth. Id say the fury at its current price is an excellent placeholder until vega drops.
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>>57736672
Tell me, is the overclocking potential on the 1060 pretty low, or has nobody bothered trying to crank it up just yet? From the preliminary reading I've found so far, voltage limitations are a problem currently. Is that a limitation that could ever be overcome, or is the factory overclock as good as it's ever going to get?
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>>57744055
I guess I'll go with that then, but first I need to measure how much space I have in my case, since apparently the Fury is a bit beefy.

Either one should be a nice step up from my 770.
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>>57743796
b-bls rsbond
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I built my first pc a bit ago, cheeped out and got an Asus 1060 3gb version for $190 (originally $210 with $10 mail in rebate and I had a $10 gift card) How long will this card last for 1080p gaming? I plan on upgrading it in a year or less.
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>>57743796
>>57744161
you're asking a question that has no actual answer

"likely" will have to suffice
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Hey guys it's not a GPU question but a cpu question.

Will a AMD 8350 work well in a dell 0Y2MRG motherboard?

It's a shitty prebuilt I got as a present and I will eventually make my own PC but right now I want to upgrade it and slowly build parts up.

I ask because google didn't help and I don't want to fuck it up.
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is anyone planning to use a 1050ti low profile in an egpu setup? i've got an old 750ti and a pe4c at the moment and its a little awkward to position on the desk. i figure the msi card in pic (release date unknown at present) and an exp gdc beast would be reasonable power and smaller footprint
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>>57744093
Will no one ever answer this question?
Pls respond
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>>57744498
Looks like they use different sockets.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16819113284

http://www.findlaptopdriver.com/specs-0y2mrg-dell/

Lube it up enough and it might go in.
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Hey /GCG/ I want to upgrade from a GTX 670 to something with 4GB of video memory. It has to be nvidia since I am a Nvidia cuck. >inb4fag
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>>57740351
was on a similar situation, had a gtx 560 and was debating between a 1050 or a rx 460, I got the later but only because it was way cheaper in my third world shithole, but I was deciding between those 2 cards because I have a i5 750, if I had a 2500k I would have considered a rx 480 or even a 1070 with that overcloking room
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How do I know what 1080 I need for 4k? How many frames can you really gain from over clocking?
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>>57746203
http://www.anandtech.com/show/10325/the-nvidia-geforce-gtx-1080-and-1070-founders-edition-review/31
Roughly about ~5 fps or about a 10% performance increase. Depending on settings that may get you over the 60fps boundary. But really if I were you I'd wait a few months for the 1080 Ti to be released and either get that or just pick up a cheaper used 1080 when the ricers dump theirs on Ebay after it's release,
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>>57746302
I'm thinking of using EVGA's step up program, I'm sure the 1080ti will release within 90 days and I'll pay the difference.

Looks like it may be with it to spend an extra $30 on something oc'd.
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>>57746363
As long as it isn't a reference cooler you ought to be able to OC it as much as the silicon lottery would have allowed you anyway. Don't pay extra for the OEM's own OC since I doubt they are binning chips that hard.
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I'm trying to sell a lightly used RX 470 in US. How should I do it?
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>>57746417
Sweet thanks, been out of the market for a while.
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I just ordered the 470, but should I have gone with the 480? Its a 20$ difference.
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>>57746717
Absolutely. You get well over $20 worth of performance boost and a crapshoot chance of adding a little overclock on top.
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So when does the 1080: Avalanche Edition come out?
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So let me get is straight.
The era of 1080p coming to an end, 1440p comes to power.
Gtx 1070 and 1080 are at the middle of that road?
1070 is perfect for 1080p and 1080 is too good for 1080p but a start of 1440p?
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I've got:
i5 3550 + Gtx 660 + 8gb ram 1600mhz
Should I get a 1060? or stick with my shit & renew next year? Not playing anything seriously. Got a new job and its time consuming (fuck us, IT People :( )
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>>57747032
We're skipping straight to 4k or 1440p 144hz
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>>57747158
This.

It's actually a pretty good generation.
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So have a 290x right now,

Go for a 1080ti? Wait and see what Vega is? Or wait for Volta?
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>>57747202
>>57747158
SOON. (At more sane prices)
https://www.pcper.com/news/Displays/Dells-New-30-4K-120Hz-UP3017Q-OLED-Monitor-Coming-Soon
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>>57744836
Find a refurbished 980. You nvcuck sack of shit kike.
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>>57747322
>>57747202
>>57747158
I picked up a 40" 4K screen to use as a monitor, but my 770 struggles to power it. is a 1070 the most logical gpu to go with for a decent framerate at 4k?
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>>57747592
http://www.anandtech.com/bench/product/1731?vs=1714
https://www.pcper.com/reviews/Graphics-Cards/NVIDIA-Titan-X-Pascal-12GB-Graphics-Card-Review/Dirt-Rally
Maybe if you reduce quality settings a bit w/o AA
I think 4K though really needs 1070s or some used 980s in SLI, or a maybe a 1080 Ti when it comes out.
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>>57747592
No bitch you want a 1080.
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>>57741179
That's a lie though
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>>57741179
retard post of the day
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>>57741664
how the fuck does a gpu die?
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>>57741998
if you are in burgerland, get 1050/1050ti. in europe the 1050/1050ti is a lot more expensive than an rx 460 so..
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What's a good upgrade from gtx 750ti for 3d rendering?
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How bad of an idea is it to buy a displayport to hdmi adapter as neither of my two monitors have any displayport on them and the only pascal cards with 2 hdmi ports are asus and the strix is at least 500€, usually around 530+€ where i live but i could get an evga ftw (inb4 housefire) for 440€?
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>>57739806
sub 4 months for amd

they have been good with their drivers lately, better then nvidia at least, and with modern api taking over, they have the dx11 shit dealt with too.

at the very least, waiting on amd means the 1080ti will be out at around the same time and may be a better option.
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>>57736672
SLI because if you limit your framerate at 60fps it means that no card is being used 100% meaning more longevity.
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>>57744093
if your in the price range of a 1060, the 480 is the better option, if you want cheaper the 470 is just about as good an option, really, it goes

460 > 470 > 480 > 390/390x/970/980 used > 1070 > 980ti used > 1080 > titan

in that order of what you should consider buying. everything on the same tier is mashed together.

personally, I would wait for amds 490 series before I go nvidia, if only because that is going to trigger the 1080ti for the same price.
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>>57743851
>upgraded to a cheap (for my country) Fury from my jet engine 290 a while ago
>still happy with the purchase
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>>57748684
Its completely fine. Its not at all an uncommom thing to do.
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>>57739717
they were going to have the fastest gpu sans the retardedly priced titan x so to combat that, nvidia put out a VERY slightly cut down/fucked up titan and called it a 980ti

remember fury x was above a 980 in almost everything, at every resolution, and ahead by enough to justify the 150$ more it cost, the fury was also better than a 980 in many games, and cost 50$ more, and nano brought a whole new level of performance to that form factor.

you remember the fury x as being worse than a 980ti and at the time, it was, but what if the 980ti didn't come out? or nvidia didn't price match? would it still mean known as crap?

It forced nvidia's hand, amd likely has something else to force it again. a gpu that is double a polaris, without the negative aspect of crossfire (about 18%) would put the card above a 1080 and if amd doesn't go full jew with the pricing, it will be in the 400-650$ range. possibly 550 and with an announced fury2 going for 650-700

This time amd isnt getting fucked over by the process like the fury did.

>>57740528
remember the fury was made for 20nm, that fell through and they had to put it on 28nm, they also likely ran the fury through mantle or prepared for next gen apis, which would also explain a few things too.

tessellation, at least how I see it, nvidia forces sub pixel resolution, then culls the data, if you limit tessalation to non retarded numbers, amd and nvidia put out close to the same fps.
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>>57743794
980ti came out once amd put out their gpu to kill all press for amd, you think nvidia wouldn't do that again? take all the press amd would get, focus it on what they did?
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>>57749071
Good to hear bro. What version did you get? I was very happy to see the nitro version is what went on sale here in murrika since it seems like its amongst tbe very best.
Also what processor do you have it paired with?
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>>57749112
>a gpu that is double

REV UP DEM 8 PINS
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>>57749150
Sapphire Fury Nitro, paired with an i5 4690K at 4.3 GHz. Paid 300€ for the Fury, sold my old 290 for 167€.
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>>57749175
remember, the 480 has a 90-160 watt range on anything consumers get, and its lower for anything that oems get/use.

I wouldn't be shocked if the lower end 490 uses more power and the higher end one clocks higher for less power.
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>1080 on the way
>only running a 1080p monitor

Was it overkill?
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>>57749112
I just want to say there are PLENTY of other drawbacks to multi gpu than just "18%" lower performance. To name a few, game breaking graphical glitches, motion sickness causing frame stutter, months late or even completely missing driver profiles, increased noise and heat since one card effectively chokes off airflow to the other, and to wrap it all up an endless yearning for a beefy single gpu that doesnt perform as well on paper, but gives a vastly superior user experience in the end.
This is not a pro nvidia comment, its an anti multi gpu one as they all suffer the same drawbacks.
That said what you said about the 980ti is completely true. The fury x would have been a serious force had nvidia not pissed right in not only amd's cheerios, but the cheerios over every titan/ superclocked 980 owner out there.
To add to the image of the fury x, its revolutionary use of hbm made it really appealing to the enthusiast crowd who always dying to get their hands on the latest and greatest pieces of experimental new tech.
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>>57749213
Yeah unless it's a 120Hz+ display, but you can always upgrade your monitor later.
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>>57749213
Probably, and there will still be games that won't run at 60 just because they're terribly optimized.
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So I'm looking for a 1070.

But I've never really build a PC before, so I'm not sure why there are so many different manufacturers and variants of the same card.

Is there a list of manufacturers I should stay clear of?
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>>57749226
Oh yea, everyone should know about the issues multi gpus can bring to the table, shit has gotten better, but not viable right now.

However, Im talking about something that is just 2 polarises of power in a single chip, when amd showed if off with aots, crossfire was slightly ahead of a 1080, and that was with an 18% deficit from crossfire.

even if you want nvidia, if you are looking at the high end you are way the fuck to late to do that with amd and nvidia's new high end right around the corner, if you didn't pull the trigger yet, how pissed would you be if they price drop the high end for a new high end around a month after you buy it?

at the very least we saw something interesting with polaris, that will show up again in amds new high end. at the very worst, used 1080s will flood ebay when people get a 1080ti
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>>57749261
>But I've never really build a PC before, so I'm not sure why there are so many different manufacturers and variants of the same card.
Because all companies are pretty diversified into branding components for every part that goes into a modern PC and competition is good for the industry and consumer.

>Is there a list of manufacturers I should stay clear of?
Nah, they are all fine these days. Even lower-end brands like PNY or Zotac are good these days. Use this to check for pricing on each of the models available (filter GPU chipset by 1070):
http://pcpartpicker.com/products/video-card/
^It's also the best comparison tool for other components to find the best pricing of each.

The only thing is to make sure you aren't getting a reference design as pictured (unless it's the cheapest) since those are the worst in terms of noise/heat.
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>tfw GPU died so have to get a new one

Gonna get a 1080, which is better, MSI or Asus? I'm avoiding Gigabyte because they suck ass.
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>get rx 480
>lower tesselation settings
>get gtx 980 performance just like based raja said i would
>???? profit
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>>57749388
ah, okay, thanks for the answer
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>>57749692
>what gpu did you have before?
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>>57749927
I think it was a Galax 970 HOF edition.
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How much of a performance difference is there between a 4 gb 480 and a 8 gb one? 8 gb one is only 16$ more in my country, worth it?
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>>57749937
>gets nvidia gpu
>gets cucked by 3.5
>gets cucked AGAIN when it breaks
>wants to buy nvidia again

Please tell me what is actually fucking wrong with you
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>>57749975
What the fuck Anon, I just want a 1080, unless you can convince me to buy a Radeon 480. Though I was told to wait until the Radeon 480 Crossfire.
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>>57749986
>multi gpu
its shit and there isnt going to be a dual gpu 480, AMD is trying to clear out the stock of furys and they are going very cheap or you could just get a 470 is you were satisfied with your 970s performance since the 470 and 970 are almost identical in that regard
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>>57750005
Yeah I wasn't really happy with my GPU's performance considering I'm planning to upgrade to 2 4K monitors early next year, which is why I want a 1080.
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>>57750025
A 1080 cant do 4k, best bet is to wait for vega or 1080 ti
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>>57750053
Shit, so basically just keep using my Integrated Graphics Card then until a 1080 ti releases?
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>>57750065
Sure, it wont have hbm2 so for 4k it will be outdated on launch so if you really want nvidia wait for volta, if vega is even somewhere between the 1080 or titan x then get that since it will at leas have the memory for 4k
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>>57750098
When is the Vega one meant to launch?
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>>57750053
and /g/ they said a 390 can't do 4k but some how here i am playing doom ultra in 4k on a fucking 390 (50+ fps mind you). glad i said fuck it instead of listening to fucking /g/.
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Alright you fucks, stop the bullshit right there
It seems like you have different standards, some of you likes 1080p, some wet their beds while dreaming of 4k, some fine with 30-40fps, some won't settle until they squeeze everything for their 144hz monitor

What i want is 1440p gaming at max settings ranging from 60 to 144 fps, this includes GTA 5 and Witcher 3.
Lets say i won't have problems with future i7 7700 and 16 ram. Would gtx1080 be enough to do that?
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I'm buying an RX 470 but it says it requires an 8 pin power connector, but I only have 6 pin.
Do I really need to buy a new PSU or can I use an adapter?
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>>57750136
yes, its overkill
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>>57750150
What? Really? How so?
I expected you recommend me titan or 1080 ti or 1080 sli.
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I cleaned the dust out of my pc today with compressed air and my gpu stopped working. I tried reseating it and now my computer won't even boot. It beeps loudly 4 times when I press the power button. Did I fucking kill my gpu with static or something? Why won't my computer even boot at all now? After cleaning but before reseating I could at least get the thing to start and display by plugging my monitor directly into my mobo. What the fuck do I do? I was planning on buying a new gpu soon anyway but the fact that my whole pc won't even boot now has me worried.

I know /g/ is not my personal tech support but please help me anyway.
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>>57750115
Doom runs very well so im not surprised, we are talking about shit games that have goyimworks

>>57750111
next few months or so, same with zen

>>57750148
If your psu doesn't have a 8 pin then go for one of the 6 pin 470. If you want the overclocking headroom you might want to consider a psu with a 8 pin
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>>57750148
Graphics cards usually come with a 2x Molex to 6 or 8-Pin converter. As long as your power supply meets the specs and you can get a cable, you'll be fine.
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How good is XFX compared to Sapphire for AMD cards?
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>>57750136
The sweet spot for 1440p is the 480, what a time we live in where a midrange gpu can do 1440p 60fps
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>>57750203
Sapphire is usualy better but this generation the XFX cards are better, so if you want a 400 series card then get XFX
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I have a 7950, any reason to upgrade to an rx 480?
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>>57750176
the more the merrier. Its not really overkill, but you will get your target 60 fps. sli would probably get you a higher fps if thats what you want.
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>>57750221
you could hold out for vega but the 480 wouldent be a bad upgrade either
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>>57750190
thats a ram issue not gnu sonny
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>>57750194
>next few months or so, same with zen
Ah okay I'm getting 5 grand next year so I'll consider it then.
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>>57750265
gpu*
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>>57750226
I do but it will be overkill for my wallet. So if 1080 is overkill, why are people buying it for? 4k? What are you gonna do at 4k at what fps? Otherwise i might consider downsampling.
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>>57748479
Quadro p/m6000
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>>57736820
I don't think that the 1050ti is a good card or a useful value, unless you just play overwatch or something like that and this shit runs even on most internals rather well.
RX 470 4GB is better value because you get atleast some improvements and you can play most modern games on 1080p for 30 bucks more.
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>tfw upgrading from 6950 to 1070
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>>57750265
I didn't even touch my ram though. I'll try reseating it anyway.
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>>57750544
Did you look up the beep codes for your motherboard?
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>>57750136
>Would gtx1080 be enough to do that?
Yes.

I have a Fury but can't get consistenst >60 fps on Witcher 3 1440p with max settings. It dips down to low 50s / high 40s.

A 1070 might be fine for this as well. Haven't looked at benchmarks recently.

If you plan to play games with Vulkan or Directx 12 support, then even a Fury or Fury X should be enough for >60 fps at 1440p.
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AMD Vega GPUs when?

Is there any truth to the rumours about a December release?
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>>57750544
I would also check to make sure you plugged the PCIE power back in to your GPU in the correct orientation. Sometimes you can actually do this the wrong way with the 6/8pin connectors and if you do the entire system will not power on.

>>57750748
Unlikely to be released until Q1 '17. AMD has teased an official spec preview but the lack of news/rumors tells me they are still a few months out, especially because Nvidia hasn't been particularly shy about 1080Ti being right around the corner.
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>>57750702
Why do you measure in fury? According to this fury x costs almost twice as much than 1070 with 17% less performance.
gpu(.) userbenchmark(.) com/Compare/Nvidia-GTX-1070-vs-AMD-R9-Fury-X/3609vs3498
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>>57750258
>you could hold out for vega
When is that coming out? I don't mind waiting.
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>>57750831
Fury =/= Fury X
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>>57750831
Those benchmark sites are just clickbait cancer. They use outdated MSRPs and compare a bunch of stupid shit that doesn't account for architectural differences or release dates. The Fury X is almost a year and a half old and can be had for just over $300 if you look around.
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Still using pic related which maxes out nearly everything at 1080p. Planning on getting a 144hz monitor.

Any single cards yet available that can hold those frames at 1080p or should I wait?
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>>57751305
It really depends on the game and how shitty it is optimised.
The new Doom, for example, runs at 100+ fps with a 390 or GTX 970. But then you have Ubishit games that run at sub 60 fps with a GTX 1080.

The safest bet for 144Hz would be a GTX 1080 or a Titan.
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>>57751305
It completely depends on the game. For most fast-paced multiplayer shooters and the like, with a few settings tweaked, yeah it's pretty easy to get 144 FPS and hold it with a single card. Single player/slower paced games is another story altogether.

We've seen a flood of poorly optimized AAA ports lately that just make me even more certain that devs don't give a shit about tailoring their game engines to the tiny market of 144 Hz PC gamers. Once they have done "good enough" for the majority of high end users to be close to 60 fps they don't seem to care.
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>>57751375
>1080 or Titan
I think I'll wait.
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>>57738845
rumors and speculation
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>>57741664
its not a bad card and 8gb if you want it to last longer
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Im 1440p 144hz on 1080sli. Im happy with them although its shit some games run worse in sli than on a single card.
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>>57736949
zotac is shit.

get a PNY one, seriously, I have a 780ti and just bought a 1080, they have the best OC and temps. google it. also lowest failure rate.
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first reply decides if I cop a 1070 or wait for the 490
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>>57749241
>1080
>1080p
>games that won't run at 60

Which ones? Even the absolute clusterfuck that is Mafia 3 gets stable 60 fps (if barely).
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>>57753583

1070
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>>57753675
Deus ex, but for good reasons unlike WE WUZ MAFIAZ
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1060 6GB vs. 480 8GB?

Looking for a card around $200 +- $50ish. People say that the 480 will get better with time, as the Nvidia cards are pretty optimized via drivers from the start. I've only owned Nvidia cards, so the latter choice is an unknown for me.
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>>57754401
>good reasons not to get stable 60fps@1080p with the best GPU on the market
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>>57754431
480 8gb, cant justify getting anything nvidia seeing what they have done to maxwell and kepler (lack of support)

>>57754443
have you seen the new deus ex? its a modern day crysis
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ok so this is started happening out of nowhere, everytime i start the pc, then when it fully boots up the screen goes black.

Is my gpu dead? its an old r9 280x.
im just afraid its the motherboard slot that is fucked and ill end up spending money for nothing


im thinking of getting a Gigabyte GTX 1070 G1 Gaming, or is there any reason to buy an AMD equivalent?
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>>57754443
Any other opinions?
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>>57755110
Was meant for
>>57754431
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>>57754492

It's pretty, but not pretty enough to justify the crippled performance.
And the game itself isn't exactly timeless classic material where I'd look forward to getting 100+fps at 1440k ultra two GPU generations later when I'm replaying it, so I don't really get the logic behind having to lower settings to get playable fps at 1080p with cream of the crop 2015 GPU.
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>>57741664
i feel you bro my 7870 died 2 weeks ago
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just dropped £619 on a Kfa2(Galax for amerifats) Hall of Fame 1080

should I kill myself or did I do alright
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>>57757044
should've voted remain.
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Now about CPU bottlenecks with 1070/1080, it isn't really a thing when I have a decent Haswell CPU, is it?
Also do I understand it correctly that at 1440p I don't need to worry about it at all because the GPU will get a much higher workout while the demands on the CPU will stay +- the same?
Just bought a 1070 to replace the 970 in my main rig, have an E3-1230V3 there now.
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>tfw still stuck with a 6800 because poor
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>>57757792
bottlenecks will be a thing in shite CPU intensive games like Arma3 and Squad

what cpu do you have?

also is it 2560x1440 or 3440x1440

cause 1070 struggles with the latter at higher settings
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>>57758030

E3-1230V3
2560x1440
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>>57758076

yeah nothing to worry about

xeon is autism tier for gaymes but still capable enough
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>>57758147

I got it because it was on a sale dirt cheap back then (20% cheaper than the equivalent i7) and had a lower TDP / temps to boot.
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bemp
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If I can get a Sapphire R9 Fury 4gb and Sapphire Nitro+ RX 480 8gb for the same price, which is the better choice?

Mostly concerned with mid-range gaming, I'm replacing a busted GTX 560 Ti 2gb that I've been using for the past 4 and a half years. I'm hoping for a lifespan for my new card, whatever that might be.

I've done my own research, but it's hard to tell what's relevant. The Fury seems to perform better atm, but it's also older meaning the 480 is likely to receive better support/optimization, right?

The Fury is on a bigger discount right now, so I'm tempted to buy it just for that reason, but the relative lack of VRAM concerns me in regards to longevity.
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Cool, this thread is still up.

>>57746302
I ended up buying MSI's RX 480. It had two HDMI 2.0s with HDCP 2.2 for $174.99 after rebate for the 4GB version.

It will replace my 770's until the ti comes out when I'll look at used 1080's and the ti. Then this little guy will fit perfect in my 1080p60hz front room PC.

I might even be able to squeeze out 4K @60 with decent settings on Rocket League with this little card.

I'm such an Nvidia cuck I feel dirty buying it but for $175 and meeting my needs so perfectly it's tough to beat.
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>>57757044
Seems like a pretty good price. I've been thinking of picking one up as well. From what I've heard they're not that good at overclocking.
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>>57743445
The sound of jet plane engine during takeoff
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I'm finally ditching my 2560x1600 monitor and going to 4k meme status. I assume my 290x isn't going to be up to par for 4k games?
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hey im new to buying video cards i want the 1050 ti tho http://www.newegg.com/Product/ProductList.aspx?Submit=ENE&DEPA=0&Order=BESTMATCH&Description=gtx+1050+ti&N=-1&isNodeId=1

but there are so many which one do i get?
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>>57737043
OMG FINALLY SOMEONE GETS IT.

Everyone is loosing their shit over the gtx 1080 and it doesn't have HBM. We're expecting the same exponential performance increase from the vega (gtx 11xx series) that we saw last year's pascale (gtx 10xx series). Based on everything Nvidia has shown, the 1160 will be better than the 1080 SO WHY! WHY WOULD YOU BUY TWO 1080s?!???

Not to mention that SLI and Crossfire are rarely supported... I mean it's neat for synthetic benchmarks but good luck playing any new game on release day. No developer is going to prioritize this feature over minor bug fixes.

You literally have to be a rich asshole who can afford to upgrade to the latest gpus each gen to justify it. If this is your case then by all means go ahead.
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>>57761427
>WHY WOULD YOU BUY TWO 1080s?!???
Let's also ignore the fact that very few games take advantage of dual gpus.
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newfag here.
I recently took my ATi HD 4870 out of my PC because I couldn't stand the noise anymore. I use my computer mainly for music now. The thing is I would like to play some not-so-new games now and then, but I don't want any extra noise. I saw this passive, fanless GPU and thought it might be a good idea: Ati Saphire R7 250 1 Gb Gddr5
Do you think it's a good choice? Would the performance be similar to my old one? Should I just find some GPU that turns it's fan off once it's idle instead?
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I've found a 1070 by Gigabyte for $399, free shipping and no sales tax or other fees. Reputable online broker as well.
I still feel like this deal is too good to be true.

Any insight on this? I have a 770 currently, so while I'm not exactly hurting this would be a significant upgrade. I have an i-5 4690k so no CPU related issues with the upgrade, even if I could squeeze out a but more performance with a higher end CPU at this point. But I'm not too worried about replacing a 3 year old CPU that still works perfectly.
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>>57761717
I wouldn't call it a steal, good value though, big upgrade from a 770 though.

>>57761427
When though?
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>>57761801
Relative to other prices it's a steal. Cheapest I found otherwise was an EVGA without a backplate for 470. The ones people are reported as catching on fire.

I wish I could find it lower. Somewhere in the realm of 350 would be a godsend, but I'm not holding my breath.
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>>57757960
ayy
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>>57761837
Maybe it was cyber Monday but I thought I was seeing them in the $370 range for standard clocks.

I wouldn't be afraid of EVGA. They are shipping out free back-plates as well if you ask and have proof of card.
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>>57761891
There's some that are 370 but that includes a mail in rebate which is as much of a discount as a loan.
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>>57761919
Here are what I have been shopping but opted for >>57760700 for now.
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what is a good site to look at benchmarks

also if you were to recommend a good reliable gpu what would it be
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>>57761955
>4 stars
>52 reviews
Right below
>5 stars
>hundreds of reviews

I'm too nervous for this shit
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>>57761991
Not suggesting that card specifically just that $370 isn't insane.
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>>57761624
>I saw this passive, fanless GPU and thought it might be a good idea
sounds like a horrible idea, the whole point of the fans is to move the heat away from the gpu so your case can exhaust it, without the fans, you are completely relying on how well your case can move air.

if you want to bring down noise,1, cool down your room, your computer will only get as cool as the room it is in. 2, get a case with better airflow, more fan support, maybe some sound dampening material and get a card with more fans, 2 or 3 for a gpu should be fine. having more fans in the case and gpu will allow them to run at lower rpm with the same amount of airflow thus barely making any noise and improved airflow will help keep the parts cool so the fans won't have to speed up.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6aDID5S41_A
maybe this will help
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>>57760511
Nice thing about the gcn architecture is improvements basically apply easily to the whole line up. I bought the fury and have no regrets. Currently waiting for it to arrive.
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>>57736672
I have a i7 920 with a 4890, what's a good graphics card to upgrade that would improve performance significantly or should i focus on just building a whole new computer at this point
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just got my 1060 3gb
play ovewatch and dota 2 thats all
what else can i do with this card? seems like a waste for old games
can I use it to upscale my shitty chinese cartoon or something?
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>>57736672
Normally I'd say go with the fastest single card but a Titan XP is such ridiculously poor value that I'd recommend 1080 SLI.

There are rumors of Vega and 1080 Ti coming out in the coming months, so if you can you may want to wait before making a large graphics card purchase. Titan XP is very poor value and I'd never recommend it and the 1080 is almost certainly at least in the latter half of its time as top dog.

>2. Any game that doesn't support SLI won't need more than a single 1080 anyways
This is not true, especially with DX12 games that don't support mGPU if you want to run them at higher res. If you're looking at 1080 SLI you must either want 4K 60FPS or 1440p 144Hz, in which case there will definitely be situations where you'll want SLI but it won't be available.
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>>57749175
480 runs off 1x6-pin, a 490 would use 1x8-pin and 1x6-pin combined with 50-75w from the PCIe socket.

Aftermarket monsters would use 2x8-pin.
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Why the FUCK are 780Ti's still so fucking expensive
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Is it just me, or is this a really good price for a prebuilt? Hell, can you even build one for this price?
Looks like some kind of firesale.

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=9SIA08C52D8599&cm_re=skytech_shiva-_-9SIA08C52D8599-_-Product
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>>57762051
thanks man!
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>>57762057
I really hate deciding between two essentially similar options

The Fury has faster VRAM but less of it. Most games don't need more than 4gb at the moment, but in the future they might.

The 480 has slower VRAM, but more of it, which means that even if it's somewhat slower it's less likely to become obsolete over future years.

The Fury performs better in games, but the 480 is younger and more recent so its likely that it will come into its own as games learn to optimize new technology and game engines.

And nobody knows what the future holds so either option could be right or wrong and literally none of the research I'm doing right now could mean a goddamn thing.

This is one of those situations where I just want someone to make the decision for me.
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>>57746203
>How do I know what 1080 I need for 4k?
You need 2 of them if you want a shot at 60FPS with decent settings in demanding games.

t. someone with 1080 SLI and a 4K monitor
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I just bought the component for a SFF in a raven 2 case. The one that looks like a gaming box.
I put in an 1080 aero but Id like to know what other rear exhaust cards exists. Its not that easy to find what model name correspond to the rear exhaust model...

I7 6700k ; gtx 1080 aero ; z170 gaming ac itx ; 600wt gold psu.

Last year I built a i5 6400 with gtx 970 build in the same case. I should have went in the major league right away...
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>>57762389
>no SSD
>8GB memory
>slowest standard Core i5
>GTX 1060 Gimped 3GB Edition
No part of that build besides the case is worth its weight in salt.
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>>57762287
>480 runs off 1x6-pin
you mean reference right?
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>>57762389
well let's run all those parts in the ol' calculator and we come down to $640 without the OS, with the OS we get $760, not including shipping so it seems like one of the more balanced, fairly pri-
>save $1,200.00 (63%)
jesus christ, I don't care if my computer was built by god, that is some price straight out of israel.
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I have an i5 4590.
Would it bottleneck a 1080/1080Ti?
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>>57761070

That depends, AMD optimised games like SW:BF (and BF1 by extension I guess) run at around 70fps in 4k if I turn down every detail on my R9 390 8GB. I was really surprised at this to be honest, and it does not work as well in other games (tried Rainbow Six Siege and Arkham Knight) but for optimised games these cards run like beasts.
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Looking to build a rig with i5 6500, or i3 6300 if I cheap out, and I've been looking at the GTX 970 and RX 480. Is the 480 performance good enough for its cost? Or should I shell out more for the 970/any similar GTX? I'm thinking 4GB VRAM would be sufficient for my purposes. Looking for any advice, seeing as it would be a budget build/ my first "next gen" build.

Thanks
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Is a 1070 enough to run rainbow six siege at 3440x1440 60fps with all settings maxed (minus the lighting settings since the lighting engine in that game is completely fucked)
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>>57764481
Go with the RX 480. It's newer and faster than the GTX 970.
As alternatives you could look at the GTX 1060 or the RX 470.
The RX 470 is about on par with the GTX 970, with an advantage in newer games.
The GTX 1060 is about as fast as the RX 480, with an advantage in Directx 11 games.
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>>57762535
Ok get the fury. Even as the 480 matures it has less raw horsepower than the fury and thats what amd's hardware is all about. Its also likely to get proper driver support for good long time since it debuted as a premium product. And considering the fury can hang pretty close to the 980 ti at 4k, i really dont think its amount of vram is an issue.
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>>57750005
predictions of the direction amd will go are they are going mcm with cpus, why not also go mcm with gpus? just for the sake of yields alone that would make it cheaper to produce a higher end chip, and if its all one socket, you could so something in hardware to make it look like one chip opposed to 2.

at the very least I find this idea interesting, may not be viable, but interesting solution to a problem of chip size and scaling nonetheless.
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>>57750065
get a hold over gpu, personally I recommend a 460 as its powerful enough to play shit on lowered settings and not be as crap as integrated is. its about 100-140$ for the card, you call on if you want to keep it as an 'in case shit happens' gpu or sell it after you are done.
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>>57750194
zen and vega are slated for q1 with zen leaking mid january if they are accurate.
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>>57749944
go for the 8gb, not so much for the sub 1% performance, but more for games are using more than 4gb of ram now, better to not be bottlenecked then be bottlenecked.
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>>57750115
that is a best case scenario, most games will have minimums in 4k around 30fps, some around 20 with top end cards.

This is not considered 'able to do it' until the card has a 60fps lock on most games maxed settings minus retarded shit.
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>>57764755
Amd has confirmed q1 on zen but january is more like a goal than an assured thing. Q1 for vega is just speculation based on the spec sheet reveal and clearing of fury stock. Its pretty good evidence, but unconfirmed nonetheless.
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>>57764796
vega as at least a h1 product, q1 is from reading between the lines on 'we want hbm', and learning when hbm is going to be available.
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>>57750281
retards want 4k and want it years ago, so they got a 1080 and found out it gets 40-50fps at 4k with some similar games getting 60

1440p if i remember right is about half of what 4k takes to render, so you get double that if not more if 4k bottlenecked somewhere else other then raw power.

you also have shit coded games and gameworks bogging every game down, and a 1080 can brute force that shit.
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This bad boy just arrived. Gonna go pick it up from the automat and then play vidya untill evening.
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>>57764809
Hbm availability and incorperation in cards are two pretty different things. I would count on early q2 being more likely.
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>>57750221
>>57750848

I got a 7970ghz, a 480 would alleviate a ram bottleneck along with double the speed overall, but because I can hold out, im likely going to wait for a 580 or a 490 if shit pans out for me, really depends on money situation in a few months.
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>>57764867
>he bought an asus ayyyymd card.
You poor bastard
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>>57764398
Hmm maybe I can go another year and wait it out for hbm2.
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>tfw on 7640
I want a proper hbm card ffs
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>>57764629
Ok thanks for those comparisons, they helped alot. I'm now looking at the different brands for 480 vs. 1060, would you suggest msi or sapphire nitro vs. gigabyte or EVGA? Sorry for noob theres so many different prices lel
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When HDR becomes more popular we won't need HDR specific cards, right? Just a monitor that supports it.
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How'd I do /g/entlemen? It's a shame my new case and monitor haven't came in yet; Fractal Design R5 and an LG 25in ultrawide. I'd like to get started.

With an ultrawide monitor can you manually set the resolution in, say, windowed mode? To play games in 1080p instead of the wide native resolution. Additionally how do games treat ultrawide from your experience? Is the picture stretched? And clearly it has more pixels so it will be harder on the GPU. What sort of frames should I expect from both 1080p and native?
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I've been using the same 660 for a few years now, and I'm looking to upgrade to something with a bit more power for games, but primarily something that can better handle a dual, or preferably triple 1080p monitor setup. What are the cheapest cards that could comfortably achieve this?

Is now a good time to even make a purchase like this?
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>>57765030
For the RX 480 go with XFX. I think EVGA is considered good for Nvidia cards.
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>>57765170
>Meme cooler
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>>57764893
>he has an autistic stimout when people don't buy from his perfered manufacturer of GPUs
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>>57739686
780 has 3gigs max so no.
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Need a card to pair with my i7 for some 1080p@60hz gayman

Plan to get into 4k when hbm2 is the standard so looking for something to last me until then. I'm expecting that shit to come out next year so all I need is a decent budget GPU to use for a year.

What card do you recommend? 1050ti? Rx 470?
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>>57765264
thanks for the help! prob gonna go with the 480 4gb if i can find a crazy deal on it, if not then 8gb for insurance.
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I have decided to buy a RX480 8GB from XFX but I don't know the difference between normal GTR and the GTR Black edition. I guess it is a simple upgrade but is it worth to spend the extra money for it? I plan to use it for 1080p/144hz in some games though ultra graphics quality setting is not imperative.
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>>57765523
The Black Edition is just clocked higher out of the box. Everything else should be the same.
You can probably achieve the same clock speeds with the GTR if you tinker with Wattman a bit.
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Is this any good? I'm needing an upgrade to my 760 that's just too dusty to play modded fallout4(regrowth mod for anyone wondering)

Is this GPU worth it? It's designed to work with games better than other GPU's I think, can someone confirm?
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>>57765596
> It's designed to work with games better than other GPU's I think

Stick to Playstation
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>>57736820
I was going to get a GTX 1050 Ti but I'm looking at a GTX 1060 6GB instead. I wont be able to buy as many games when I build my rig but at least the few I do get should be playing smooth and looking good.
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>>57765649
>Buying games
Just pirate
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>>57765572
Is the normal GTR enough to get a good OC? I know about JayzTwoCents golden sample but I'm not so sure I'll get the same miracolous stats.
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>>57765596

I bought it. The marketing is gaymer baby bullshit, but it has legitimate pros.
- lowest temps out of air cooled 1070s no matter the load
- 4 year warranty
- very high base clocks
- waterproofed PCB (in case you're a dumb nigger, a friend of mine fried his 970 with a spill)

You have equal chances of good OC with any other 1070, but this one stays cool even at very high clocks and if you have shit luck with OC, you have the still fairly high base clocks to fall back on.
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So, do you think it's better to buy the monitor first, and get a GPU that can power it, or a GPU and the monitor it can power?
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Will I be fine with a RX 460 4gb if I'm only playing games from 2012 and before? Everywhere I go, every youtube review I read, every website review comment section, and every forum is obsessed with how cards run games that come out now. I don't think there's a single game that's come out in the past 2 years that made me think "wow, I really want to play this." It's a lot of noise and I just want to spend ~$100 on a card that can do justice to older games.
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>>57765863
Really depends what you currently have. It's not really a significant improvement over a R9 270X or 950Ti.

Though if you are aiming for lower power consumption it's one option i guess.
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>>57765707
That's impossible to predict. It's all down to silicone lottery. The cooling and PCB should be the same. I'd say you should achieve at least the same boost clocks as the GTR Black Edition gets out of the box unless you get a really shitty chip.
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>>57765908
currently have nothing. I'm doing my first build with intense budget considerations. If I get the RX 460 with the deal i have i'll have that, an i3, and good value 1080p 23" for $450 total
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>>57765951
Just get a console.
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>>57765951

Buy a barely used GTX 970 for 20-30% its original price from someone who jumped on the 1070/80 bandwagon.
You'll have a GPU that will rape 1080p in 2012 games and still do great in most of the recent ones.
>>
on most games i get like 100fps on 2560x1600 on most fps games with my single gtx1080...i get like over 150fps on games like overwatch tho and even more on csgo
already ordered a pg279q to take advantage of the 100+ fps
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>>57766137
That's still quite a bit above my budget. Looking at $150 max for a gpu
>>
>tfw waiting for 1070
Going to play on my 105inch projection screen.
Feels like christmas morning
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brehs should I buy another fury x and crossfire? have a 27" 1440p 144hz already its nice
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>>57766433
sure brudder. go for it
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>>57766433
Not sure if that's worth it. Vega should be here in three months or so. Iirc, AMD announced Vega for Q1 2017
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>>57760911
reminded me of MSI 560Ti Hawk on full load
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I just bought an Asus Strix GTX 1060 6gb card to go with my i5-3450, but I was wondering if I should be looking for a different CPU for more CPU intensive games.

What would you say forms the best combination with a 1060?
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>>57766433

That's an extraordinarily stupid idea.
>>
>be yuropoor
>see newegg prices
>cry
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>>57766676
>be britbong
>see europoor prices
>cry even more

Brexist was a mistake ;_;
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>>57747322
I spent $1400 on my current monitor 5 years ago so I'm not too worried about the price. I'm assuming it will be around $1500.
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>>57761717
>Upgrading from a 770 to a 1070
Hoo boy, prepare to have your mind blown.
Boy do I envy you, what I wouldn't give to experience going from a 660 to a 980 again, shit was magical.
>>
How do you feel about Gigabyte's Windforce Series?
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>>57767177
Better wear a helmet for when they explode.
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>like a glove.gif
I was considering returning this fucker to store. Finally managed to squeeze it in by removing the motherboard, but now I can't even see the two screwholes behind it. Fuck that, it'll do just fine with 4 screws holding it.
>>
I missed black friday, whats the next big sale?
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>>57767270
Your mom's holding a big sale every night. LOL!
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Are Asus Strix Cards generally safe to overclock?
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reminder that nvidia can't async dx12 and vulkan
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>>57748974
It means a huge waste of money. No modern graphics card (and especially 1080s) will die before reaching obsolescence.
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>>57768420
Yeah, all nvidia cards will be worthless soon
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I have a R9 380 MSI Gaming, and I'll jump from a shitty 1366x768 monitor to a freesync FHD 1ms one.

Will I feel that much difference? How well will my card run on it?
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>>57768870
>1ms one
That sounds like TN shit and I highly advise against it.
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>>57768963
The main point is the freesync desu don't really care if it is 1ms or 5ms.
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>>57768980
That's not what I'm saying, if it's a 1ms screen it has to have a TN panel - which has shit colors and shit viewing angles compared to IPS/VA. I really wouldn't recommend buying a TN screen, especially if you don't care about the 1ms response time since that is really the only advantage they have over IPS, everything else is just worse. Going from some 1366x768 shitty TN to a FHD IPS is going to look amazing.
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>>57766481
Honestly i think your in the butter zone for good gaming. Cpu overclock-able? 4.0ghz should handle anything 1080p 60hz
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>>57769119
Fuck me. I have already paid for it. Oh well, at least it'll be a nice secondary monitor in the future.
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>>57769287
What monitor is it? Might have some ofher benefits that justify tn panel.
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>>57769480
It's an AOC g2460vq6.
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>>57769527
Its definately a budget gaming monitor, but you could do worse. As long as you dont do photo or video editing and dont view off angle, you should be fine.

It will be a step up from 1366x768, especially if you want low lag v-sync.
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>>57769682
>As long as you dont do photo or video editing and dont view off angle, you should be fine.

If it comes to that, I'll probably buy a better monitor for it.

Thanks anon, I definitely learned something today.
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>>57768420

Joke's on you, I plan on sticking to W7 until 2020 on my current 1070 rig, and then I'll just get whatever comes after Volta when I'm upgrading everything.
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>>57747032
>>57747158

the 1070 can handle 1440p but not at 144hz.

Whereas the 1080 can handle 1440p and at 144hz.

The most expensive card (barring the Titan) is the only foot in the door at 1440p@144hz.

I got a 1070 because I've not got more than half a grand to burn on a card, but I was hoping I could at least push it to achieve that but it's just not capable unless you gimp your settings considerably.
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>>57749692

>Says Gigabyte sucks ass
>Considers getting MSI/Asus cards

Wrong, it is you who sucks ass my friend.
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>>57769906
>Most expensive card
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>>57769954

>(((Gaming))) cards

Look how clever you are, you can bring up Workstation cards. Have a tendie.
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>>57770024
>Have a tendie.
Tyvn I never had a tendie they don't sell them in my country ._.
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Need a card to pair with my i7 for some 1080p@60hz gayman

Plan to get into 4k when hbm2 is the standard so looking for something to last me until then. I'm expecting that shit to come out next year so all I need is a decent budget GPU to use for a year.

What card do you recommend? 1050ti? Rx 470?
>>
>>57770056
Safe some money turn things a little bit down and get a 460
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>>57770056
If you're not playing exclusively to AAA's then >>57770070
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>>57770070
>>57770221
I want to play GTA 5, the witcher 3 and battlefield 1 but that's it for AAA games. Will probably play lots of dota, overwatch and a bunch of RTS games. I don't care about playing at medium. I've never had a graphics card before so anything would be a huge jump in performance. Should I still go with the 460?
>>
>>57769906

I'm fine with "only" getting 60-120 fps in new games, so I got a 1070 for my 1440p 165hz gsync screen, and will probably skip a generation now. And anything older than 2015 gets brutalized by the 1070.
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>>57770304
Hmm for BF1 460 is still ok, but GTA 5 and TW3 might not be enough, especially TW3.
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>>57770304
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>>57770304
>>57770341
Cont...

If I were you, I would get a 470. It's not that expensive, and simply crushes the 460.
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>>57770304
Word
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>>57769954
I've always been curious and never really got a straight answer; what exactly is a workstation card, how does it differ from a gaymen card, and why are they so much more expensive?
>>
>>57770429
Different purposes cards don't bother. Drivers are rather optimised for opengl not directx, sdi port, longer support, sometimes ridiculous amount of ram for large projects, higher reliability and so on.
>>
>>57770341
>>57770382
>>57770426
>>57770428
Aight looks like I'll be looking to get a 470 then. Seems like the best perf/$ in the low end
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>build $2k gaming machine
>been playing a Unity game for a straight month
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>>57770759

My Summer Car?
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>>57770837
yes
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>>57770759
>>57770852
>pass users being tagged
this does not seem like a good idea
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>>57770935
naw it's opt-in only if you feel like showing off how big of a faggot you are
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>>57765390
470 hands down
>>
>>57766132
you hare hard pressed to get console games for under 20$ before they are dead anymore, pc regularly sells games that came out a year ago for under 15$
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